G'day Sheldon,

Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
on a Greek coffee mill.

At USD70 (>AUD90) I'm not sure if I actually want to buy one, but I
would like to check the thing out, so have been trying to convince the
local hardware/kitchenware places to stock one. :-)

Unfortunately, the web page given by M. FERRANTE earlier in the thread
does not give much detail apart from the retail price etc. See:
<http://www.chefscatalog.
com/(grbdlw55v4oti355hdkvgx2f)/catalog/product.
aspx?scommand=search&search=pepper%2bmills&item=93 860>

Oh, gawd... Try: <http://tinyurl.com/78lw6>

Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.

Thanks for your trouble.

Addendum: When I mentioned your original description of this product
to one of the local specialist houseware places, she immediately
thought of "Sheldon", which seems to be an Australian manufacturer or
distributor of such items. Out of curiosity, I googled for "sheldon
houseware site:.au" and came up with the following link to a legal
squabble between our Sheldon and your Metrokane over a bloody
corkscrew handle! The Court dismissed the claim and counter-claim. :-)
<http://judgments.fedcourt.gov.au/2004/J040019.yes.htm>

Cheers, Phred.

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LID

Phred wrote:
> G'day Sheldon,
>
> Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
> on a Greek coffee mill.
>
> At USD70 (>AUD90) I'm not sure if I actually want to buy one, but I
> would like to check the thing out, so have been trying to convince the
> local hardware/kitchenware places to stock one. :-)
>
> Unfortunately, the web page given by M. FERRANTE earlier in the thread
> does not give much detail apart from the retail price etc. See:
> <http://www.chefscatalog.
> com/(grbdlw55v4oti355hdkvgx2f)/catalog/product.
> aspx?scommand=search&search=pepper%2bmills&item=93 860>
>
> Oh, gawd... Try: <http://tinyurl.com/78lw6>
>
> Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
> in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.
>
> Thanks for your trouble.

I bought mine from chefscatalog.com They don't ship outside the US.

My mill is the 11" Brass one with straight bottom, it is clearly
marked:

"ATLAS"
"PEPPER MILL IMPORTS"
"MADE IN GREECE"

Perhaps this info will help you locate a source in Australia or one
that will ship to Australia... googling found other sources.

There's really no need to "check anything out", this product is simply
far and away the best... does exactly what it's supposed to do and does
it very well. If you're worried it is too tall and will be knocked off
your table, relax... I place mine lying down, the big crank handle will
prevent rolling. Out of curiosity I just now placed mine on my kitchen
scale, it weighs a full two pounds and it's built like a tank... it
will easily last a couple three lifetimes.

Sheldon

Sheldon wrote:
> Phred wrote:
> > G'day Sheldon,
> >
> > Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
> > on a Greek coffee mill.
> >
> > At USD70 (>AUD90) I'm not sure if I actually want to buy one, but I
> > would like to check the thing out, so have been trying to convince the
> > local hardware/kitchenware places to stock one. :-)
> >
> > Unfortunately, the web page given by M. FERRANTE earlier in the thread
> > does not give much detail apart from the retail price etc. See:
> > <http://www.chefscatalog.
> > com/(grbdlw55v4oti355hdkvgx2f)/catalog/product.
> > aspx?scommand=search&search=pepper%2bmills&item=93 860>
> >
> > Oh, gawd... Try: <http://tinyurl.com/78lw6>
> >
> > Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
> > in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.
> >
> > Thanks for your trouble.
>
> I bought mine from chefscatalog.com They don't ship outside the US.
>
> My mill is the 11" Brass one with straight bottom, it is clearly
> marked:
>
> "ATLAS"
> "PEPPER MILL IMPORTS"
> "MADE IN GREECE"
>
> Perhaps this info will help you locate a source in Australia or one
> that will ship to Australia... googling found other sources.
>
> There's really no need to "check anything out", this product is simply
> far and away the best... does exactly what it's supposed to do and does
> it very well. If you're worried it is too tall and will be knocked off
> your table, relax... I place mine lying down, the big crank handle will
> prevent rolling. Out of curiosity I just now placed mine on my kitchen
> scale, it weighs a full two pounds and it's built like a tank... it
> will easily last a couple three lifetimes.
>
> Sheldon

Reposting only because apparently you solicited but missed my reply...
I'd be interested in whether you were able to locate this item and what
you thought of it if you obtained one.

Sheldon

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:
>Sheldon wrote:
>> Phred wrote:
>> > G'day Sheldon,
>> > Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
>> > on a Greek coffee mill.
[snip]
>> > Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
>> > in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your trouble.
>>
>> I bought mine from chefscatalog.com They don't ship outside the US.
>>
>> My mill is the 11" Brass one with straight bottom, it is clearly
>> marked:
>>
>> "ATLAS"
>> "PEPPER MILL IMPORTS"
>> "MADE IN GREECE"
>>
>> Perhaps this info will help you locate a source in Australia or one
>> that will ship to Australia... googling found other sources.
>>
>> There's really no need to "check anything out", this product is simply
>> far and away the best... does exactly what it's supposed to do and does
>> it very well. If you're worried it is too tall and will be knocked off
>> your table, relax... I place mine lying down, the big crank handle will
>> prevent rolling. Out of curiosity I just now placed mine on my kitchen
>> scale, it weighs a full two pounds and it's built like a tank... it
>> will easily last a couple three lifetimes.
>
>Reposting only because apparently you solicited but missed my reply...
>I'd be interested in whether you were able to locate this item and what
>you thought of it if you obtained one.

G'day Sheldon, thanks very much for your info.

Sorry for putting you to a repost. In fact I saw your original, but
was waiting for some feedback from a local hardware store as to
whether they thought they might be able to track it down before I
responded. It does look like I may have to correspond with one of the
American suppliers of the product to find out how to contact the
manufacturer -- if they'll tell me! :-) [I haven't managed to track
down a direct .gr link of any use over the Internet so far.]

I don't think importing from a US retailer would be very cost-
effective when one adds in the delivery charges plus 10% GST on
landing here. :-(

As it is, on the current conversion rate, I would be looking at around
AUD95 based on advertised US prices around USD70. Would you have paid
$95 for it?

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Phred wrote:
> In article .com>,
> "Sheldon" > wrote:
> >Sheldon wrote:
> >> Phred wrote:
> >> > G'day Sheldon,
> >> > Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
> >> > on a Greek coffee mill.
> [snip]
> >> > Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
> >> > in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your trouble.
> >>
> >> I bought mine from chefscatalog.com They don't ship outside the US.
> >>
> >> My mill is the 11" Brass one with straight bottom, it is clearly
> >> marked:
> >>
> >> "ATLAS"
> >> "PEPPER MILL IMPORTS"
> >> "MADE IN GREECE"
> >>
> >> Perhaps this info will help you locate a source in Australia or one
> >> that will ship to Australia... googling found other sources.
> >>
> >> There's really no need to "check anything out", this product is simply
> >> far and away the best... does exactly what it's supposed to do and does
> >> it very well. If you're worried it is too tall and will be knocked off
> >> your table, relax... I place mine lying down, the big crank handle will
> >> prevent rolling. Out of curiosity I just now placed mine on my kitchen
> >> scale, it weighs a full two pounds and it's built like a tank... it
> >> will easily last a couple three lifetimes.
> >
> >Reposting only because apparently you solicited but missed my reply...
> >I'd be interested in whether you were able to locate this item and what
> >you thought of it if you obtained one.
>
> G'day Sheldon, thanks very much for your info.
>
> Sorry for putting you to a repost. In fact I saw your original, but
> was waiting for some feedback from a local hardware store as to
> whether they thought they might be able to track it down before I
> responded. It does look like I may have to correspond with one of the
> American suppliers of the product to find out how to contact the
> manufacturer -- if they'll tell me! :-) [I haven't managed to track
> down a direct .gr link of any use over the Internet so far.]
>
> I don't think importing from a US retailer would be very cost-
> effective when one adds in the delivery charges plus 10% GST on
> landing here. :-(
>
> As it is, on the current conversion rate, I would be looking at around
> AUD95 based on advertised US prices around USD70. Would you have paid
> $95 for it?

Sure I would, considering the cost of other pepper mills and how much
better this one is I'd gladly pay the price. In fact I paid US$70 plus
US$15 shipping, so the cost wasn't far off, and I paid that more than
five years ago, in a less inflated economy, so in reality I actually
paid more dollars than you. I really can't consider the dollar
conversion rate as that is a factor of Economy and applies to
everything, I'm sure you pay more AU dollars for everything.... but
it's only a number... how it's arrived at is what you really need to
consider. I suppose in the final anayisis if one really wants a pepper
mill and is willing to pay a few dollars more for the best then they
will pay the price, just like with every other thing one buys. Of
course if buying this thing means your family wont eat for a month than
forget it... no one needs this pepper mill (no one needs any pepper
mill) it's just a nice thing to have.

Sheldon

In article .com>, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>
>Phred wrote:
>> In article .com>,
>> "Sheldon" > wrote:
>> >Sheldon wrote:
>> >> Phred wrote:
>> >> > G'day Sheldon,
>> >> > Back in May you sang the praises of a "professional" pepper mill based
>> >> > on a Greek coffee mill.
>> [snip]
>> >> > Do you have any detail about the manufacturer that would help someone
>> >> > in Oz track the thing down, please? Even just the name might help.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your trouble.
>> >>
>> >> I bought mine from chefscatalog.com They don't ship outside the US.
>> >>
>> >> My mill is the 11" Brass one with straight bottom, it is clearly
>> >> marked:
>> >>
>> >> "ATLAS"
>> >> "PEPPER MILL IMPORTS"
>> >> "MADE IN GREECE"
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps this info will help you locate a source in Australia or one
>> >> that will ship to Australia... googling found other sources.
>> >>
>> >> There's really no need to "check anything out", this product is simply
>> >> far and away the best... does exactly what it's supposed to do and does
>> >> it very well. If you're worried it is too tall and will be knocked off
>> >> your table, relax... I place mine lying down, the big crank handle will
>> >> prevent rolling. Out of curiosity I just now placed mine on my kitchen
>> >> scale, it weighs a full two pounds and it's built like a tank... it
>> >> will easily last a couple three lifetimes.
>> >
>> >Reposting only because apparently you solicited but missed my reply...
>> >I'd be interested in whether you were able to locate this item and what
>> >you thought of it if you obtained one.
>>
>> G'day Sheldon, thanks very much for your info.
>>
>> Sorry for putting you to a repost. In fact I saw your original, but
>> was waiting for some feedback from a local hardware store as to
>> whether they thought they might be able to track it down before I
>> responded. It does look like I may have to correspond with one of the
>> American suppliers of the product to find out how to contact the
>> manufacturer -- if they'll tell me! :-) [I haven't managed to track
>> down a direct .gr link of any use over the Internet so far.]
>>
>> I don't think importing from a US retailer would be very cost-
>> effective when one adds in the delivery charges plus 10% GST on
>> landing here. :-(
>>
>> As it is, on the current conversion rate, I would be looking at around
>> AUD95 based on advertised US prices around USD70. Would you have paid
>> $95 for it?
>
>Sure I would, considering the cost of other pepper mills and how much
>better this one is I'd gladly pay the price. In fact I paid US$70 plus
>US$15 shipping, so the cost wasn't far off, and I paid that more than
>five years ago, in a less inflated economy, so in reality I actually
>paid more dollars than you. I really can't consider the dollar
>conversion rate as that is a factor of Economy and applies to
>everything, I'm sure you pay more AU dollars for everything.... but

Yeah. That's exactly the point I was making (or thought I was .
$95 to me is basically the same as $95 to you, that's why I asked.

>it's only a number... how it's arrived at is what you really need to
>consider. I suppose in the final anayisis if one really wants a pepper
>mill and is willing to pay a few dollars more for the best then they
>will pay the price, just like with every other thing one buys. Of
>course if buying this thing means your family wont eat for a month than
>forget it... no one needs this pepper mill (no one needs any pepper
>mill) it's just a nice thing to have.

True. I think it's the challenge of trying to find the thing here
that's motivating me more than the desire to own it (and I certainly
don't *need* it -- hell, I've been putting up with my present decrepit
piece of junk for 20 years now; if it lasts another 20 it'll be around
longer than me!)

Cheers, Phred.

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LID