Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
words of wisdom.

Thanks
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Glenn Jacobs wrote:

> Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
> the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> words of wisdom.

I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> Glenn Jacobs wrote:
>
> > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
> > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> > words of wisdom.
>
> I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
>
>
>

Don't count on it. ;-)
It's a business I've considered and investigated.
There is currently no local supplier for live Escargot,
and one of the specialty markets in the area was
interested when I made some phone calls.

I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back
with shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It
should not cost me more than maybe $1,000 set up costs.

That's cheap for a business. <G>

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"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Glenn Jacobs wrote:
>
> > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
remember
> > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> > words of wisdom.
>
> I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
>
>
>

In article >,
"Louis Cohen" > wrote:

> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Glenn Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
> remember
> > > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> > > words of wisdom.
> >
> > I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
>
> ROTFL!

Thou art easily amused??? ;-)

K. (who's gotta go make those shrimp and mushroom kebabs for grilling
now that they are done marinating...... The coals are ready!)

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On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:18:55 -0500, Katra wrote:

> It's a business I've considered and investigated. There is currently no
> local supplier for live Escargot, and one of the specialty markets in
> the area was interested when I made some phone calls.
>
> I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back with
> shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It should not cost me more
> than maybe $1,000 set up costs.

years ago there was a Wall St. Journal article about backyard snail
ranchers. it was a fun thing to read. iirc the technique (maybe for warm
places) was to stake out a 10x10 bed or something and edge it with some
copper sheeting.

in an cooler area i'd think you could use cheap plastic tubs ... with
screen lids or something they don't like to crawl over.

lots of info here (some of which seems to conflict with my WSJ memory):

http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...8/feature.html

You're just jealous because you didn't get the joke.

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"Katra" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Louis Cohen" > wrote:
>
> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Glenn Jacobs wrote:
> > >
> > > > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
> > remember
> > > > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have
some
> > > > words of wisdom.
> > >
> > > I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
> >
> > ROTFL!
>
> Thou art easily amused??? ;-)
>
> K. (who's gotta go make those shrimp and mushroom kebabs for grilling
> now that they are done marinating...... The coals are ready!)
>
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In article >,
"Louis Cohen" > wrote:

> "Katra" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Louis Cohen" > wrote:
> >
> > > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Glenn Jacobs wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
> > > remember
> > > > > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have
> some
> > > > > words of wisdom.
> > > >
> > > > I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
> > >
> > > ROTFL!
> >
> > Thou art easily amused??? ;-)
> >
> > K. (who's gotta go make those shrimp and mushroom kebabs for grilling
> > now that they are done marinating...... The coals are ready!)
> >
> You're just jealous because you didn't get the joke.
>
> Louis Cohen

ok, you got me... ;-)

I got it now. Slow, snail, duh! <sigh>

The grilled shrimp kebabs came out very well!
5 minutes per side and they were marinated overnight in Italian dressing.

Served with corn on the cob cooked in the husk, and grilled smoked
sausage.

Wood fire, not charcoal.

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On Sun, 30 May 2004 11:40:51 -0600, Glenn Jacobs
> wrote:

>Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
>the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
>words of wisdom.
>
>Thanks
Take a look here


http://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/AFSIC_...05.htm#FSIntro

Socks wrote:

> years ago there was a Wall St. Journal article about backyard snail
> ranchers. it was a fun thing to read. iirc the technique (maybe for warm
> places) was to stake out a 10x10 bed or something and edge it with some
> copper sheeting.
>
> in an cooler area i'd think you could use cheap plastic tubs ... with
> screen lids or something they don't like to crawl over.


Beer...???


> lots of info here (some of which seems to conflict with my WSJ memory):
>
> http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...8/feature.html


I like snails but I'd rather raise chinchillas - they are warm, cute, and
cuddly....

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In article et>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Socks wrote:
>
> > years ago there was a Wall St. Journal article about backyard snail
> > ranchers. it was a fun thing to read. iirc the technique (maybe for warm
> > places) was to stake out a 10x10 bed or something and edge it with some
> > copper sheeting.
> >
> > in an cooler area i'd think you could use cheap plastic tubs ... with
> > screen lids or something they don't like to crawl over.
>
>
> Beer...???

Snails like beer. ;-)
They will drown in it.
I use pans of beer in the gardens to control slugs and snails.

>
>
> > lots of info here (some of which seems to conflict with my WSJ memory):
> >
> > http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...8/feature.html
>
>
> I like snails but I'd rather raise chinchillas - they are warm, cute, and
> cuddly....

But are they tasty?

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Katra wrote:

> In article et>,
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
> > Socks wrote:
> >
> > > years ago there was a Wall St. Journal article about backyard snail
> > > ranchers. it was a fun thing to read. iirc the technique (maybe for
warm
> > > places) was to stake out a 10x10 bed or something and edge it with
some
> > > copper sheeting.
> > >
> > > in an cooler area i'd think you could use cheap plastic tubs ... with
> > > screen lids or something they don't like to crawl over.
> >
> >
> > Beer...???
>
> Snails like beer. ;-)
> They will drown in it.
> I use pans of beer in the gardens to control slugs and snails.
>


A premium brew or will any old beer do...???

"Two snails walk into a bar...."



> > > lots of info here (some of which seems to conflict with my WSJ
memory):
> > >
> > > http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...8/feature.html
> >
> >
> > I like snails but I'd rather raise chinchillas - they are warm, cute,
and
> > cuddly....
>
> But are they tasty?


Kind of the mammal equivalent of ortolans, I'd guess :-)

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On Sun, 30 May 2004 19:58:45 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

>
>The grilled shrimp kebabs came out very well!
>5 minutes per side and they were marinated overnight in Italian dressing.
>
>Served with corn on the cob cooked in the husk, and grilled smoked
>sausage.
>
>Wood fire, not charcoal.
>
What did you use for a marinade?

On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:18:55 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

>It's a business I've considered and investigated.
>There is currently no local supplier for live Escargot,
>and one of the specialty markets in the area was
>interested when I made some phone calls.
>
>I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back
>with shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It
>should not cost me more than maybe $1,000 set up costs.
>
>That's cheap for a business. <G>
>
You can harvest the organic snails from my yard any time.

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 19:58:45 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> The grilled shrimp kebabs came out very well!
>> 5 minutes per side and they were marinated overnight in Italian
>> dressing.
>>
>> Served with corn on the cob cooked in the husk, and grilled smoked
>> sausage.
>>
>> Wood fire, not charcoal.
>>
> What did you use for a marinade?

"they were marinated overnight in Italian dressing."

On Mon, 31 May 2004 19:06:58 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:


>A premium brew or will any old beer do...???
>

I suggest using Dead Guy Ale. They'll die happy.

In article k.net>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> Katra wrote:
>
> > In article et>,
> > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> >
> > > Socks wrote:
> > >
> > > > years ago there was a Wall St. Journal article about backyard snail
> > > > ranchers. it was a fun thing to read. iirc the technique (maybe for
> warm
> > > > places) was to stake out a 10x10 bed or something and edge it with
> some
> > > > copper sheeting.
> > > >
> > > > in an cooler area i'd think you could use cheap plastic tubs ... with
> > > > screen lids or something they don't like to crawl over.
> > >
> > >
> > > Beer...???
> >
> > Snails like beer. ;-)
> > They will drown in it.
> > I use pans of beer in the gardens to control slugs and snails.
> >
>
>
> A premium brew or will any old beer do...???

<snicker> Funny you should ask...
Dad tried using a cheap beer, (some Dos Equis) and we got a few slugs,
but when that got filled with rain water, he used a bottle of O'Dools
dark ale, and we got about 10 times as many drowned slugs that night!

Seems mollusks actually have good taste in beer. We were very amused!

>
> "Two snails walk into a bar...."

Hee!

>
>
>
> > > > lots of info here (some of which seems to conflict with my WSJ
> memory):
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues...8/feature.html
> > >
> > >
> > > I like snails but I'd rather raise chinchillas - they are warm, cute,
> and
> > > cuddly....
> >
> > But are they tasty?
>
>
> Kind of the mammal equivalent of ortolans, I'd guess :-)

Or like fried squirrel???? :-d

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 30 May 2004 19:58:45 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >The grilled shrimp kebabs came out very well!
> >5 minutes per side and they were marinated overnight in Italian dressing.
> >
> >Served with corn on the cob cooked in the husk, and grilled smoked
> >sausage.
> >
> >Wood fire, not charcoal.
> >
> What did you use for a marinade?

Wishbone zesty Italian dressing. :-)

I cheat. <G>

I used a medium sized shrimp and left them in the shell, and alternated
them with some mushrooms on the kebab.

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:18:55 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> >It's a business I've considered and investigated.
> >There is currently no local supplier for live Escargot,
> >and one of the specialty markets in the area was
> >interested when I made some phone calls.
> >
> >I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back
> >with shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It
> >should not cost me more than maybe $1,000 set up costs.
> >
> >That's cheap for a business. <G>
> >
> You can harvest the organic snails from my yard any time.

<lol> What variety? :-)

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On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:18:55 -0500, Katra wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> Glenn Jacobs wrote:
>>
>>> Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
>>> the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
>>> words of wisdom.
>>
>> I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>
> Don't count on it. ;-)
> It's a business I've considered and investigated.
> There is currently no local supplier for live Escargot,
> and one of the specialty markets in the area was
> interested when I made some phone calls.
>
> I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back
> with shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It
> should not cost me more than maybe $1,000 set up costs.
>
> That's cheap for a business. <G>
>
> K.

Let me know how it goes. I live a a dry and cool area (Mountains of
Colorado) so I have a couple of strikes agains me to begin with. But I
have not been able to find a supplier up here.

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In article >,
Glenn Jacobs > wrote:

> On Sun, 30 May 2004 15:18:55 -0500, Katra wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > Dave Smith > wrote:
> >
> >> Glenn Jacobs wrote:
> >>
> >>> Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
> >>> remember
> >>> the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> >>> words of wisdom.
> >>
> >> I would be willing to bet that business is slow. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Don't count on it. ;-)
> > It's a business I've considered and investigated.
> > There is currently no local supplier for live Escargot,
> > and one of the specialty markets in the area was
> > interested when I made some phone calls.
> >
> > I'm still considering setting up a small greenhouse out back
> > with shelving and aquariums and giving it a shot. It
> > should not cost me more than maybe $1,000 set up costs.
> >
> > That's cheap for a business. <G>
> >
> > K.
>
> Let me know how it goes. I live a a dry and cool area (Mountains of
> Colorado) so I have a couple of strikes agains me to begin with. But I
> have not been able to find a supplier up here.


I'm not ready yet... ;-)
It's still something I've been thinking about. <G>
Now that I've found a source for cheap greenhouses, I'd finally have
somewhere to put them. I did not have space in the house.

Anyhoo, there is an on-line source to purchase breeder snails:

http://www.frescargot.com/

Hope this helps?

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Glenn Jacobs > wrote in message >. ..
> Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
> the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> words of wisdom.

I had a college professor who raised snails to eat. iirc, there's a
process involved and I can't remember the details really. Do you have
feed them cornmeal for two days before using? And, the garden/farm
would have to be sterile and organic, I imagine. I wasn't as brave as
I am now (culinarily speaking), so I turned off my ears and said ick
when he started to talk about his snails. He was Italian, taught
Geography, at San Jose State, maybe I should google and find out if
he's still around.

Karen

sf > wrote in message >. ..
>> You can harvest the organic snails from my yard any time.

On the globetrekker travel show, the host had gone to France and the
visit included a trip to the snail museum/shop. The mucus/snot stuff
from the snail is supposed to be good to soften wrinkles on our skin
and eliminate crow's feet. The host had snails on the side and
underneath her eyes to show us, and the museum/shop's owner had very
pretty skin.

Karen

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:59:32 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>

> > You can harvest organic snails from my yard any time.
>
> <lol> What variety? :-)
>

Not sure (no expert has told me), but I think they are
Helix aspersa Muller.
http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/misc/g...rden_snail.htm

In any case, their shells are the same as what you get when
you order escargot in a restaurnat.




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On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:52:03 -0600, Glenn Jacobs
> wrote:


>
> Let me know how it goes. I live a a dry and cool area (Mountains of
> Colorado) so I have a couple of strikes agains me to begin with. But I
> have not been able to find a supplier up here.

come to California and stock up!


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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:19:20 -0500, Katra
> wrote:


> Now that I've found a source for cheap greenhouses,

How cheap is cheap and what's their website? There are
others here (like me) who would like an inexpensive
greenhouse... but not for raising snails.


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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:58:49 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> > What did you use for a marinade?
>
> Wishbone zesty Italian dressing. :-)
>
> I cheat. <G>
>
> I used a medium sized shrimp and left them in the shell, and alternated
> them with some mushrooms on the kebab.
>
IFAIC, Italian dressing is a great marinade for many things.



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On 1 Jun 2004 13:22:35 -0700, (Karen
O'Mara) wrote:

> Glenn Jacobs > wrote in message >. ..
> > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
> > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> > words of wisdom.
>
> I had a college professor who raised snails to eat. iirc, there's a
> process involved and I can't remember the details really. Do you have
> feed them cornmeal for two days before using? And, the garden/farm
> would have to be sterile and organic, I imagine. I wasn't as brave as
> I am now (culinarily speaking), so I turned off my ears and said ick
> when he started to talk about his snails. He was Italian, taught
> Geography, at San Jose State, maybe I should google and find out if
> he's still around.
>
There's more than enough information available on the
internet... and it was also on TV in the olden days.

Yes, you feed them on cornmeal and lettuce for a few days.
That's the EASY part. Then you have to boil them and pick
their dead bodies out of the shell. After that, you'll
prepare them with garlic and butter so that others can enjoy
while you munch on white bread.

http://www.recipecottage.com/shellfish/escargot13.html
Capture 18 snails. Place them in a ventilated box with corn
meal. With a sprayer bottle, spray the corn meal. Keep them
in this environment at least 72 hours. Remove the snails and
wash them in cold water. Drop them into boiling water with
bay leaf and let simmer 15 minutes. Drain in colander and
pick meat out of shell. Remove the fall or the tail end
where the snail is attached to the shell. Wash snails in
cold running water.
Set aside.
*If you prefer, use canned snails, and rinse in cold water.

Recipe:
Mushrooms Stuffed With Escargot

Ingredients:

1/2 cup Soft butter
1 tsp Minced shallots
1 Clove garlic (large), crushed
1 tbsp Minced parsley
1 tbsp Finely minced celery
1/4 tsp Salt
Freshly ground black pepper to taste 12
large Mushrooms
12 large Canned snails, drained


Cream 6 tablespoons of the butter with the shallots, garlic,
parsley, celery, salt and pepper. Remove the mushroom stems
and reserve for another purpose. Heat the remaining butter
in a skillet. Add the mushroom caps and turn to coat on all
sides. Arrange in the depressions of a snail pan, in
scallop shells or in a shallow baking-serving dish. Place a
scant teaspoon of the herbed butter in each mushroom cap,
add a snail and cover it with a little more butter. Before
serving, bake in a moderate oven (375 degrees) about 15
minutes.

NOTE: Any leftover herbed butter may be used for baked or
broiled fish.

6 servings


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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:59:32 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
>
> > > You can harvest organic snails from my yard any time.
> >
> > <lol> What variety? :-)
> >
>
> Not sure (no expert has told me), but I think they are
> Helix aspersa Muller.
> http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/misc/g...rden_snail.htm
>
> In any case, their shells are the same as what you get when
> you order escargot in a restaurnat.
>
>

Heh! So you have an organic business in your yard, free startup! <lol>

You are in CA right? When I was about 8 years old, my older sister and I
found an old KFC bucket and on our way home from the park one day, we
picked up as many large snails as we could find. This was in Torrance
CA. I think we caught about 50 of them...

Mom said that they were the edible kind, and put them into an aquarium
with some cornmeal for a few days until they started pooping cornmeal.

Then mom and dad ate them. <G>

I was grossed out at the time, but I enjoy them now. :-)

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:59:32 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> > In article >,
> > sf > wrote:
> >
>
> > > You can harvest organic snails from my yard any time.
> >
> > <lol> What variety? :-)
> >
>
> Not sure (no expert has told me), but I think they are
> Helix aspersa Muller.
> http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/misc/g...rden_snail.htm
>
> In any case, their shells are the same as what you get when
> you order escargot in a restaurnat.
>
>
>
>

Seriously, I'd pay you to mail me a dozen or so...

I have an unused 15 gallon aquarium out in the greenhouse. I could make
a wood and screen cover for it and experiment with breeding a few just
for home use.

Let me know? This variety is not found around here. We have only some
very small ones that are not suitable for cooking.

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:19:20 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
>
> > Now that I've found a source for cheap greenhouses,
>
> How cheap is cheap and what's their website? There are
> others here (like me) who would like an inexpensive
> greenhouse... but not for raising snails.
>
>

$270.00 for an 8' x 8' "portable" greenhouse.
They are not nearly as flimsy as they look in the picture.
The two that I have up have already weathered one very bad storm with
high winds with no damage. :-)

I'm VERY pleased with them!

Here is the website:

http://www.propools.com/cgi-bin/Soft.../greenhouses/d
reamhouse.htm?E+scstore

They go up in about 30 minutes, including the inside poles. They are
really just a glorified tent, but they DO have a 3 year warantee! They
stake down with 12 18" stakes and have extra stakes and ropes for
tiedowns if you feel you need them.

They are wonderful. I'm finally able to do some stuff I've never been
able to do before as far as propagation goes, and have bought a few
tropical plants that I've always wanted and not been able to keep
before. There is noplace suitable inside my home for tropical plants. :-(

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:58:49 -0500, Katra
> > wrote:
>
> > > What did you use for a marinade?
> >
> > Wishbone zesty Italian dressing. :-)
> >
> > I cheat. <G>
> >
> > I used a medium sized shrimp and left them in the shell, and alternated
> > them with some mushrooms on the kebab.
> >
> IFAIC, Italian dressing is a great marinade for many things.
>
>

Yep! :-d

And some of the dijon mustard ones are good for chicken.....

K.

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In article >,
sf > wrote:

> On 1 Jun 2004 13:22:35 -0700, (Karen
> O'Mara) wrote:
>
> > Glenn Jacobs > wrote in message
> > >. ..
> > > Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't
> > > remember
> > > the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> > > words of wisdom.
> >
> > I had a college professor who raised snails to eat. iirc, there's a
> > process involved and I can't remember the details really. Do you have
> > feed them cornmeal for two days before using? And, the garden/farm
> > would have to be sterile and organic, I imagine. I wasn't as brave as
> > I am now (culinarily speaking), so I turned off my ears and said ick
> > when he started to talk about his snails. He was Italian, taught
> > Geography, at San Jose State, maybe I should google and find out if
> > he's still around.
> >
> There's more than enough information available on the
> internet... and it was also on TV in the olden days.
>
> Yes, you feed them on cornmeal and lettuce for a few days.
> That's the EASY part. Then you have to boil them and pick
> their dead bodies out of the shell. After that, you'll
> prepare them with garlic and butter so that others can enjoy
> while you munch on white bread.
>
> http://www.recipecottage.com/shellfish/escargot13.html
> Capture 18 snails. Place them in a ventilated box with corn
> meal. With a sprayer bottle, spray the corn meal. Keep them
> in this environment at least 72 hours. Remove the snails and
> wash them in cold water. Drop them into boiling water with
> bay leaf and let simmer 15 minutes. Drain in colander and
> pick meat out of shell. Remove the fall or the tail end
> where the snail is attached to the shell. Wash snails in
> cold running water.
> Set aside.
> *If you prefer, use canned snails, and rinse in cold water.
>
> Recipe:
> Mushrooms Stuffed With Escargot
>
> Ingredients:
>
> 1/2 cup Soft butter
> 1 tsp Minced shallots
> 1 Clove garlic (large), crushed
> 1 tbsp Minced parsley
> 1 tbsp Finely minced celery
> 1/4 tsp Salt
> Freshly ground black pepper to taste 12
> large Mushrooms
> 12 large Canned snails, drained
>
>
> Cream 6 tablespoons of the butter with the shallots, garlic,
> parsley, celery, salt and pepper. Remove the mushroom stems
> and reserve for another purpose. Heat the remaining butter
> in a skillet. Add the mushroom caps and turn to coat on all
> sides. Arrange in the depressions of a snail pan, in
> scallop shells or in a shallow baking-serving dish. Place a
> scant teaspoon of the herbed butter in each mushroom cap,
> add a snail and cover it with a little more butter. Before
> serving, bake in a moderate oven (375 degrees) about 15
> minutes.
>
> NOTE: Any leftover herbed butter may be used for baked or
> broiled fish.
>
> 6 servings
>
>
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Hey this is neat! :-)
I'm filing this recipe...

I actually have some escargot dishes, heavy porcelain with large divots
in them, 6 to a dish. The most delicious escargot I ever had was up in
Sedona Arizona at a little Swiss restaraunt. He served them in the
Escargot dishes (no shells) with herbed garlic butter in a light bed of
whipped eggwhites.

They were tender, not tough as they were fresh. Canned ones tend to be
kinda rubbery. Overcooked.

K.

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>From: sf

>On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:52:03 -0600, Glenn Jacobs
> wrote

>> Let me know how it goes. I live a a dry and cool area (Mountains of
>> Colorado) so I have a couple of strikes agains me to begin with. But I
>> have not been able to find a supplier up here.
>
>come to California and stock up!

Um, friends, be careful. I can imagine that one or two sick snails could
spread disease among your crop.

Best of luck.


E. P.

On 2004-05-30, Glenn Jacobs > wrote:
> Someone in this group was planning to build a snail farm. I don't remember
> the name. I wonder if they have made any progress and might have some
> words of wisdom.

In CA, the common garden snail is the same as the French snail used for
escargot. The state is lousy with 'em. I think almost everyone here has
considered raising them for profit after some newspaper ran a story about a
French restauranteur who, while visiting, discovered we were doing our
damndest to kill off what he was doing his damndest to find a supply of. He
was so freaked on the hordes of little slime buckets, he moved here and
started up a big snail farm in Marin county to export snails back to France.
Pretty soon, every paper was runnning snail raising articles in the food
section.

The whole thing peaked back in the early days of the dot.com boom when
everyone started making and blowing wads of money on more trendy and silly
things and the hipness of having a box full of slugs in the back yard lost
it's slime ..er... sheen.

There's still a couple websites still doing it, though:

http://www.happysnails.com/happysnai...us/dept_3.html

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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:50:37 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 00:59:32 -0500, Katra
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > sf > wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > > You can harvest organic snails from my yard any time.
> > >
> > > <lol> What variety? :-)
> > >
> >
> > Not sure (no expert has told me), but I think they are
> > Helix aspersa Muller.
> > http://creatures.ifas.ufl.edu/misc/g...rden_snail.htm
> >
> > In any case, their shells are the same as what you get when
> > you order escargot in a restaurnat.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Seriously, I'd pay you to mail me a dozen or so...
>
> I have an unused 15 gallon aquarium out in the greenhouse. I could make
> a wood and screen cover for it and experiment with breeding a few just
> for home use.
>
> Let me know? This variety is not found around here. We have only some
> very small ones that are not suitable for cooking.
>
> K.
Okay!!! You figure out how to ship live snails and I'll
send them to you COD. Sound fair? I have a very healthy
crop of snails waiting for you.



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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:46:53 -0500, Katra
> wrote:


> Heh! So you have an organic business in your yard, free startup! <lol>
>
That's the long and short of it... no poison (from my yard)
is in their system. However, I would "clean" them out with
a diet of cornmeal and lettuce anyway. It could be an
entrepreneurial kids dream.

> You are in CA right? When I was about 8 years old, my older sister and I
> found an old KFC bucket and on our way home from the park one day, we
> picked up as many large snails as we could find. This was in Torrance
> CA. I think we caught about 50 of them...
>
When my children were small enough to go for it, I put a
bounty on snails. I gave them sandpails to put their
"picked" snails in at 5¢ per head. Of course, we put the
snails into an aqurarium - outside - where they gourged on
cornmeal and lettuce... Hey, it wasn't my fault that the
rain drowned them. Mother Nature did it and o'golly,
geewhiz... they weren't under anythng that kept the rain
out.

> Mom said that they were the edible kind, and put them into an aquarium
> with some cornmeal for a few days until they started pooping cornmeal.
>
> Then mom and dad ate them. <G>
>
> I was grossed out at the time, but I enjoy them now. :-)
>
I understand completely!

I can't make anything with canned esgargot and be able to
eat it. I know what I make is good, but the gross out
factor is too pervasive for me to actually eat them.... BUT,
if someone ELSE makes esgargot - I'll go for seconds.

LOL


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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:55:40 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> In article >,
> sf > wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:19:20 -0500, Katra
> > > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Now that I've found a source for cheap greenhouses,
> >
> > How cheap is cheap and what's their website? There are
> > others here (like me) who would like an inexpensive
> > greenhouse... but not for raising snails.
> >
> >
>
> $270.00 for an 8' x 8' "portable" greenhouse.
> They are not nearly as flimsy as they look in the picture.
> The two that I have up have already weathered one very bad storm with
> high winds with no damage. :-)
>
> I'm VERY pleased with them!
>
> Here is the website:
>
> http://www.propools.com/cgi-bin/Soft.../greenhouses/d
> reamhouse.htm?E+scstore
>
Ugh... that line wrapped - try http://tinyurl.com/2ss4f

You made me look.... here's a similar site
http://www.littlegreenhouse.com/eazy.shtml

> They go up in about 30 minutes, including the inside poles. They are
> really just a glorified tent, but they DO have a 3 year warantee! They
> stake down with 12 18" stakes and have extra stakes and ropes for
> tiedowns if you feel you need them.
>
I like the looks of their StarterHouse!

> They are wonderful. I'm finally able to do some stuff I've never been
> able to do before as far as propagation goes, and have bought a few
> tropical plants that I've always wanted and not been able to keep
> before. There is noplace suitable inside my home for tropical plants. :-(
>
Greenhouses are wonderful things! When I was young, my
mother was an orchid fanatic. We lived in Michigan at the
time and my dad built an 8 x 10 greenhouse for her which
opened off the kitchen. He built the foundation and put up
an aluminum frame (I was a kid and don't know what metal it
really was) with glass walls and a crank ventilation system
which impressed me no end.

<sigh> I'm still dreaming of a greenhouse or solarium
addition to my own home.


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On 02 Jun 2004 09:38:51 GMT, (Julian9EHP)
wrote:

> >From: sf
>
> >On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 07:52:03 -0600, Glenn Jacobs
> > wrote
>
> >> Let me know how it goes. I live a a dry and cool area (Mountains of
> >> Colorado) so I have a couple of strikes agains me to begin with. But I
> >> have not been able to find a supplier up here.
> >
> >come to California and stock up!
>
> Um, friends, be careful. I can imagine that one or two sick snails could
> spread disease among your crop.
>
> Best of luck.
>
>
Errr, ummm. Thanks for the warning.



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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:29:37 -0500, Katra
> wrote:

> Hey this is neat! :-)
> I'm filing this recipe...

Snail stuffed mushrooms are very good, serve on rounds of
baguett if you want to go over the top.
>
> I actually have some escargot dishes, heavy porcelain with large divots
> in them, 6 to a dish. The most delicious escargot I ever had was up in
> Sedona Arizona at a little Swiss restaraunt. He served them in the
> Escargot dishes (no shells) with herbed garlic butter in a light bed of
> whipped eggwhites.
>
I'm very particular about how escargot are served. I don't
like "burgundy" style.... and egg whites sound gross.
Sorry.

> They were tender, not tough as they were fresh. Canned ones tend to be
> kinda rubbery. Overcooked.

Hmm. I suppose that's true... but canned is the usual way
they come and you're not going to find me cooking and
picking snails out of their shells just to serve up as an
appetiser, babe.


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