Fantastic! I'll be buying this again. It has a nice smooth creamy texture
(without being too soft) and a buttery lightly nutty taste. I had it on
some melba toast rounds. I tried some sliced on the rosemary olive oil
bread, toasted (like cheese-bread) but the rosemary overpowered the cheese.
Next time perhaps a simple sliced baguette.

Jill
--
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.

So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.

Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
here.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 08:15:18p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
thought! :-)

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sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis! Most people don't think
of it as a large place. And I didn't even buy this cheese in the city... it
was in the burbs in Cordova! Schnuck's (supermarket) has a pretty decent
cheese shop.

> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

You'll love this stuff if you can find it! I'm definitely buying more. It
was in small (rindless) blocks, about 1/4 lb. The price tag indicates it's
$10.50/lb but they didn't have any larger blocks. Remind me to tell the
manager they need to continue to stock it... I truly think this was a trial
run for them since I've never seen it there before. I may run back over
there tomorrow to make sure I get more!

Jill

On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
> cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
> thought! :-)

<shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
on street signs either.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 10:28:58p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
>> "gourmet cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more
>> backwards than I thought! :-)
>
> <shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
> me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
> seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
> cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
> close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
> the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
> on street signs either.
>
>
>

In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-) I can hardly
imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco. We're far more
likely to have Spanish names on *everything* here than anything else beyond
English. To be perfectly honest, If I moved to Rome I would *need* to
learn Italian, or French in Paris, or Greek in Greecem, etc. I find it
distressing that we are being "forced" into a bilingual culture here.

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
> >
> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> > down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
> >
> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!

If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your blinking
would have bowled me over!!!
>
> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen it there before.

YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>> >
>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>> > here.
>> >
>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>
> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your blinking
> would have bowled me over!!!
>>
>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen it
>> there before.
>
> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
> to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.
>
>
>

LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of Memphis! :-)
I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago. It is still one of my
favorite cities.

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On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)

GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
location.

)

> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco.

I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
eclipsed us on the population index years ago.

2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
population of 1,321,045.

The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
in the US.

Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
know about that cheese than we do here.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>> >
>>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>>> > here.
>>> >
>>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>>
>> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your
>> blinking would have bowled me over!!!
>>>
>>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen
>>> it there before.
>>
>> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
>> to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.
>>
>>
>>
>
> LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of Memphis!
> :-) I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago. It is still
> one of my favorite cities.

You'd be surprised at the "village" of Germantown these days... it ain't no
"village"; it's an incorporated city (I live right outside of it). And
where the town of Collierville used to be just a few shops in the old town
square and some lovely old homes... let's just say when my LLL and I drove
out Highway 72 East (Poplar Avenue) to go to Huntsville, Alabama in June he
was agape and agog (I love that word! not sure I've ever used it in a
sentence before!) at Germantown and then Collierville. Poplar Avenue is one
of the busiest 6 lane thoroughfares you've ever seen. Between the
brick-fenced mansions and the occasional (still) fenced off horse ranches
there's every kind of chain restaurant and upscale mini-malls with fancy
shops like Whole Foods.

Once you turn right onto *old* highway 72 South, it's a step back in time
(or perhaps what everyone expects of a used-to-be small town in this part of
the country).

Jill

sf wrote on 21 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.
>
>

It is sold at Safeway up here. I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the
kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

--
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But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

"jmcquown" > wrote:

>Fantastic! I'll be buying this again. It has a nice smooth creamy texture
>(without being too soft) and a buttery lightly nutty taste. I had it on
>some melba toast rounds. I tried some sliced on the rosemary olive oil
>bread, toasted (like cheese-bread) but the rosemary overpowered the cheese.
>Next time perhaps a simple sliced baguette.
>
>Jill
>--
>I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.
>
>

I don't know if you saw my post about buying something like this back
in the late seventies regularly. From your description, it sounds
like exactly the same cheese. I thought the one I got was calle Creme
Kase or something like that. Now I see that the last word (however
it's spelled) only means cheese. But you seem to have found the same
stuff, and now I'm on a hunt - that was some really good cheese.

--
The Doc says my brain waves closely match those of a crazed ferret.
At least now I have an excuse.

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 12:56:15a, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
> GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
> slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
> names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
> do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
> location.
>
>)

Michael lives in St. Louis, MO.

>> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San
>> Francisco.
>
> I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
> eclipsed us on the population index years ago.
>
> 2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
> population of 1,321,045.

Greater Phoenix is projected to reach 3.4 million people sometime in 2005.

> The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
> 744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
> in the US.
>
> Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
> transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
> know about that cheese than we do here.

That's true. I'm always surprised that we don't have a wider range of
ethnic restaurants and food shops.

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____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 01:57:58a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf wrote:
>>>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>>> >
>>>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>>>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>>>> > here.
>>>> >
>>>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>>>
>>> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your
>>> blinking would have bowled me over!!!
>>>>
>>>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen
>>>> it there before.
>>>
>>> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
>>> to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of Memphis!
>> :-) I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago. It is still
>> ne of my favorite cities.
>
> You'd be surprised at the "village" of Germantown these days... it ain't
> no "village"; it's an incorporated city (I live right outside of it).
> And where the town of Collierville used to be just a few shops in the
> old town square and some lovely old homes... let's just say when my LLL
> and I drove out Highway 72 East (Poplar Avenue) to go to Huntsville,
> Alabama in June he was agape and agog (I love that word! not sure I've
> ever used it in a sentence before!) at Germantown and then Collierville.
> Poplar Avenue is one of the busiest 6 lane thoroughfares you've ever
> seen. Between the brick-fenced mansions and the occasional (still)
> fenced off horse ranches there's every kind of chain restaurant and
> upscale mini-malls with fancy shops like Whole Foods.
>
> Once you turn right onto *old* highway 72 South, it's a step back in
> time (or perhaps what everyone expects of a used-to-be small town in
> this part of the country).

The last time I was in Memphis was in 2000 and I, too, was agape and agog
at the growth and changes, as I hadn't been there for many years. I lived
in White Station in 1956 and, IIRC, Poplar Avenue was only two lanes at
that time, at least out in that area. In fact, in 1956, White Station was
pretty much th boudary of Greater Memphis. Germantown was still a very
small self-contained "village" 3-4 miles away.


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____________________________________________

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Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

A clerk at my neighborhood German deli tells em that they refer to what
is labelled "Tilsiter" or "Havarti" as butter cheese. They offer what
they call "mild" and "sharp" versions, neither of which is truly sharp.
I alway tell them to give me the one with the highest fat content
(which they call "mild), and I do find it very buttery. I like it on a
small roll with jagdwurst (a mild bologna-like wurst) and sweet/mild
German mustard (Lowensenf's).

-bwg

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 22 Aug 2005 01:57:58a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>>>>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>>>>> > here.
>>>>> >
>>>>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>>>>
>>>> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your
>>>> blinking would have bowled me over!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen
>>>>> it there before.
>>>>
>>>> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and
>>>> closer to Europe... it probably has more residents of German
>>>> ancestry too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of
>>> Memphis! :-) I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago.
>>> It is still
>>>> one of my favorite cities.
>>
>> You'd be surprised at the "village" of Germantown these days... it
>> ain't no "village"; it's an incorporated city
>
> The last time I was in Memphis was in 2000 and I, too, was agape and
> agog at the growth and changes, as I hadn't been there for many
> years. I lived in White Station in 1956 and, IIRC, Poplar Avenue was
> only two lanes at that time, at least out in that area. In fact, in
> 1956, White Station was pretty much th boudary of Greater Memphis.
> Germantown was still a very small self-contained "village" 3-4 miles
> away.

That "village" (Germantown) has a population of around 40,000 now and it
spreads much further east than the border you remember up the old 2-lane
Poplar Avenue.

I don't know if you remember Kemmons Wilson (founder of Holiday Inns) - he
had a house on Poplar Avenue not far from White Station. It's now a Dixie
Cafe (a chain) but with the exception of remodeling for the commercial
kitchen they pretty much kept the house intact. Hardwood floors, french
doors, crown moulding, fireplaces. It's fun to go in there and try to
figure out which room was what - was this a bedroom? Could this have been
the dining room? Not to mention Dixie Cafe has great "homestyle cooking" -
they even serve a squash casserole similar to mine! <G>

Menu here (I've only ever been there for lunch):
http://www.dixiecafe.com/menu/

Jill

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:

> It is sold at Safeway up here. I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the
> kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

I guees that means I need to get myself over to a larger one. NAH,
I'll put in on the shopping list and let my husband deal with those
crowds. He likes going to those stores.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>
> It is sold at Safeway up here.

Do they label it butterkäse?

> I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> > It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
"gourmet
> > cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards
than I
> > thought! :-)
>
> <shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
> me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
> seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
> cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
> close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
> the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
> on street signs either.
>
>

I'm pretty sure Leonard's 2000 on Polk Street has it, actually. I think SF
has great cheese options!

cheers

> wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>
>> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
>> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>>
>> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
>> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
>> here.
>
> A clerk at my neighborhood German deli tells em that they refer to what
> is labelled "Tilsiter" or "Havarti" as butter cheese. They offer what
> they call "mild" and "sharp" versions, neither of which is truly sharp.
> I alway tell them to give me the one with the highest fat content
> (which they call "mild), and I do find it very buttery. I like it on a
> small roll with jagdwurst (a mild bologna-like wurst) and sweet/mild
> German mustard (Lowensenf's).
>
> -bwg
>
After reading the OP I went to my local German Deli and they no longer carry
it and I was told the same basically. Havarti.

I already know what havarti is like. I wanted Butter cheese.

MoM

sf wrote on 22 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> >
> > It is sold at Safeway up here.
>
> Do they label it butterkäse?
>
> > I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the kind that adds stuff to
> > cottage cheese.
>

Don't know...A woman at Work who only shops at safeway, brings slices of
it as a snack or part of her lunch. I have tried it but found it too
mild, at the time I tried it (10 yrs ago)...I lean more towards the
sharper tasting cheeses.




--
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But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>>
>> It is sold at Safeway up here.
>
> Do they label it butterkäse?
>
This was labelled "German Butter Cheese" but on the back (price) label it
said "Butter kaese" (I guess their printer can't do umlats and I don't care
to figure it out, but you'll get the drift). Gonna run and buy some more of
this, ASAP!

Jill

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:56:15 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
>GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
>slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
>names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
>do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
>location.

Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
up for RFC.

The URL is :

http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en

I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.

Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
are!!!

I might start a new thread for this...

Christine

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:56:15 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)
>
>GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
>slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
>names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
>do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
>location.
>
>)
>
>> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco.
>
> I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
>eclipsed us on the population index years ago.
>
>2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
>population of 1,321,045.

I *never* would have imagined that! What are 1-5? (NYC, Chicago, LA
.... ?)

>
>The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
>744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
>in the US.

OK, LA is bigger. What are #s 2 & 3? Surely Sac doesn't have a
higher pop than SF!!!

>Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
>transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
>know about that cheese than we do here.

Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
place....

TammyM, cheesy, very cheesy !!

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 09:12:26a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Mon 22 Aug 2005 01:57:58a, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>> On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> sf wrote:
>>>>>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>>>>>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>>>>>> > here.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>>>>>
>>>>> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your
>>>>> blinking would have bowled me over!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen
>>>>>> it there before.
>>>>>
>>>>> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and
>>>>> closer to Europe... it probably has more residents of German
>>>>> ancestry too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of
>>>> Memphis! :-) I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago.
>>>> It is still
>>>>> one of my favorite cities.
>>>
>>> You'd be surprised at the "village" of Germantown these days... it
>>> ain't no "village"; it's an incorporated city
>>
>> The last time I was in Memphis was in 2000 and I, too, was agape and
>> agog at the growth and changes, as I hadn't been there for many
>> years. I lived in White Station in 1956 and, IIRC, Poplar Avenue was
>> only two lanes at that time, at least out in that area. In fact, in
>> 1956, White Station was pretty much th boudary of Greater Memphis.
>> Germantown was still a very small self-contained "village" 3-4 miles
>> away.
>
> That "village" (Germantown) has a population of around 40,000 now and
> it spreads much further east than the border you remember up the old
> 2-lane Poplar Avenue.
>
> I don't know if you remember Kemmons Wilson (founder of Holiday Inns) -
> he had a house on Poplar Avenue not far from White Station. It's now a
> Dixie Cafe (a chain) but with the exception of remodeling for the
> commercial kitchen they pretty much kept the house intact. Hardwood
> floors, french doors, crown moulding, fireplaces. It's fun to go in
> there and try to figure out which room was what - was this a bedroom?
> Could this have been the dining room? Not to mention Dixie Cafe has
> great "homestyle cooking" - they even serve a squash casserole similar
> to mine! <G>

I remember the house being pointed out to me, but I don't really remember
Kemmons Wilson. One my first cousin's husband is a VP at the Holiday Inn
offices there in Memphis. I imagine it really would be interesting to see
the inside.

> Menu here (I've only ever been there for lunch):
> http://www.dixiecafe.com/menu/

The menu looks like fun. I'll have to put that on my 'visit Memphis' list!

> Jill
>
>
>



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On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
> cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
> thought! :-)

Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San Francisco...?

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On Mon 22 Aug 2005 09:17:08p, Ariane Jenkins wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright >
> wrote:
>>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
>> "gourmet cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more
>> backwards than I thought! :-)
>
> Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
> area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San
> Francisco...?

A handful of Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets have been opened in the Phoenix
area and seem to have a much larger array of more up-scale products and
really great produce, still at Wal-Mart Super Store prices. Compared to
shopping at a regular Wal-Mart, shopping at one of the Neighborhood Markets
can be a real pleasure, and I always seem to find items I wouldn't have
expected to find. They have a large assortment of specialty cheeses and
sausages. Many of their fresh produce items are hard to find at other
supermarkets in the area. Another great benefit, IMHO, is the Neighborhood
Markets seem to draw a very different crowd than the Super Stores.

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:16:48 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:

> Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
> up for RFC.
>
> The URL is :
>
> http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en
>
> I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
> can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.
>
> Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
> are!!!
>
> I might start a new thread for this...
>
Very COOL! How did you find out about it?

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:48:17 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:16:48 -0600, Christine Dabney wrote:
>
>> Google has this handy new feature, called a guest map. I just set one
>> up for RFC.
>>
>> The URL is :
>>
>> http://myguestmap.lorca.eti.br/guest...an02&locale=en
>>
>> I found this from another food site. You can narrow it down so you
>> can even put your street there..it can pinpoint where you are exactly.
>>
>> Spread the word...lets see how many RFC'ers can pinpoint where they
>> are!!!
>>
>> I might start a new thread for this...
>>
>Very COOL! How did you find out about it?

From a blogger on Mouthfuls.com.

We have a lot of folks added so far.

I just learned a new trick about it too. If you have a hard time
finding your place by the regular map, you can switch to the hybrid
one, or the satellite map, and find your exact spot.

Remember, you have to zoom into street level, BEFORE you put your
marker on it.

Christine

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:

> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
> place....

True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
for me if they carry it.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:41:46 GMT, rmg wrote:

> I'm pretty sure Leonard's 2000 on Polk Street has it, actually. I think SF
> has great cheese options!
>
Thanks for the pointer, I'm not familiar with that place.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:18:24 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>
>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>> place....
>
>True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
>bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
>or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
>in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
>for me if they carry it.
>
>

I found it in Whole Foods here in Albuquerque. I am sure you can find
it there.

sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....

christine

On Mon 22 Aug 2005 10:23:04p, Christine Dabney wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:18:24 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>>
>>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>>> place....
>>
>>True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
>>bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
>>or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
>>in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
>>for me if they carry it.
>>
>>
>
> I found it in Whole Foods here in Albuquerque. I am sure you can find
> it there.
>
> sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....

Surfing?

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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
>
>
>> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
>> place....
>
>
> True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
> bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
> or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
> in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
> for me if they carry it.
>
>

There are some very useful cheese shops in SF.

One is on the foggier side - somewhere between 12th and 14th on Irving.
This is a small place, but they have a decent selection, including
Tilsit, and a variety of very buttery ones. Since they are small, the
selection may vary. Out of the 3 dozen or so types they have, perhaps
6-8 might vary over time. I think this place is very imaginatively named
"the cheese store" It is 2 blocks east on Irving from Andronico's.
They also stock Manouri, which reminds me of an Asian cheese I had
growing up.

There is another one around California and Fillmore. It had a much
bigger selection, and seems a bit more expensive. But I have never done
a type by type comparison. Some friends who work in some of the fine
dining establishments in the city directed me to this place.

There might also be a place on Castro St. Only heard of it from friends
who have now moved out of the area.


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On 23 Aug 2005 07:30:53 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >
> > sf, on the map, you are out in the ocean. Zoom in....
>
> Surfing?

It's too COLD for that (unless you're a diehard surfer in a decent
wetsuit) and the undertow is a real killer. No joke.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:49:58 -0700, gkm wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:46:26 GMT, TammyM wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Ahhh but you DO have the Cheese Board in Berkeley. WONDERFUL
> >> place....
> >
> >
> > True, but if you lived in SF you'd know that when you live here -
> > bridge crossing isn't an everyday matter unless you do it for businees
> > or education purposes. Fortunately, one of my friends at work lives
> > in Berkeley so I can ask her to make a mercy run to the Cheese Board
> > for me if they carry it.
> >
> >
>
> There are some very useful cheese shops in SF.
>
> One is on the foggier side - somewhere between 12th and 14th on Irving.
> This is a small place, but they have a decent selection, including
> Tilsit, and a variety of very buttery ones. Since they are small, the
> selection may vary. Out of the 3 dozen or so types they have, perhaps
> 6-8 might vary over time. I think this place is very imaginatively named
> "the cheese store" It is 2 blocks east on Irving from Andronico's.
> They also stock Manouri, which reminds me of an Asian cheese I had
> growing up.
>
> There is another one around California and Fillmore. It had a much
> bigger selection, and seems a bit more expensive. But I have never done
> a type by type comparison. Some friends who work in some of the fine
> dining establishments in the city directed me to this place.
>
> There might also be a place on Castro St. Only heard of it from friends
> who have now moved out of the area.

There's a cheese shop (Creighton's) on twin peaks that's closer to me
- I should look there first. Also, there used to be a very well
regarded cheese shop at Divisidero and Oak. Do you know if it's still
there?

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 04:17:08 GMT, Ariane Jenkins wrote:

> Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
> area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San Francisco...?

You have absolutely no idea, Ariane. We are just a little burb,
really. No WalMart, no Target, no Home Depot (yet) within the city
limits.