Fantastic! I'll be buying this again. It has a nice smooth creamy texture
(without being too soft) and a buttery lightly nutty taste. I had it on
some melba toast rounds. I tried some sliced on the rosemary olive oil
bread, toasted (like cheese-bread) but the rosemary overpowered the cheese.
Next time perhaps a simple sliced baguette.

Jill
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.

So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.

Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
here.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 08:15:18p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
thought! :-)

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On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
> cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
> thought! :-)

<shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
on street signs either.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 10:28:58p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
>> "gourmet cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more
>> backwards than I thought! :-)
>
> <shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
> me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
> seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
> cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
> close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
> the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
> on street signs either.
>
>
>

In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-) I can hardly
imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco. We're far more
likely to have Spanish names on *everything* here than anything else beyond
English. To be perfectly honest, If I moved to Rome I would *need* to
learn Italian, or French in Paris, or Greek in Greecem, etc. I find it
distressing that we are being "forced" into a bilingual culture here.

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On 22 Aug 2005 07:52:12 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> In case you don't remember, I'm in AZ, not NYC or Europe. :-)

GAK, sorry. I keep placing you where Michael is and I put him
slightly North. LOL I need to get myself a map and put pins with
names on them in it. Nah, I'll let someone who is computer literate
do an online map where we can enter our names in the appropriate
location.

)

> I can hardly imagine Phoenix being more cosmopolitan than San Francisco.

I don't know how you rate on the Cosmopolitan scale, but you guys
eclipsed us on the population index years ago.

2000 - Phoenix is the sixth-largest city in the U.S., with a
population of 1,321,045.

The City and County of San Francisco (2004 estimated population
744,230) is the fourth-largest city in the state of California.... NOT
in the US.

Taking into consideration that a large part of your population is
transplanted retirees, you probably have more people in your area who
know about that cheese than we do here.

"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> > It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
"gourmet
> > cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards
than I
> > thought! :-)
>
> <shrug> If you've ever been here you'd know we're not NYC. Believe
> me when I say SF is just a small town.... and I don't remember EVER
> seeing this name on a cheese before. It's not in every "gourmet"
> cheese section of every (any) grocery store I've been in. We are not
> close to Europe and don't have many of the European items people in
> the East expect to see. We don't have ubiquitous French words/names
> on street signs either.
>
>

I'm pretty sure Leonard's 2000 on Polk Street has it, actually. I think SF
has great cheese options!

cheers

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:41:46 GMT, rmg wrote:

> I'm pretty sure Leonard's 2000 on Polk Street has it, actually. I think SF
> has great cheese options!
>
Thanks for the pointer, I'm not familiar with that place.

On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their "gourmet
> cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more backwards than I
> thought! :-)

Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San Francisco...?

Ariane
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On Mon 22 Aug 2005 09:17:08p, Ariane Jenkins wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 22 Aug 2005 05:30:41 +0200, Wayne Boatwright >
> wrote:
>>
>> It shouldn't be that hard to find it. Our supermarkets it in their
>> "gourmet cheese" section. If you can't find in SF, then SF is more
>> backwards than I thought! :-)
>
> Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
> area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San
> Francisco...?

A handful of Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets have been opened in the Phoenix
area and seem to have a much larger array of more up-scale products and
really great produce, still at Wal-Mart Super Store prices. Compared to
shopping at a regular Wal-Mart, shopping at one of the Neighborhood Markets
can be a real pleasure, and I always seem to find items I wouldn't have
expected to find. They have a large assortment of specialty cheeses and
sausages. Many of their fresh produce items are hard to find at other
supermarkets in the area. Another great benefit, IMHO, is the Neighborhood
Markets seem to draw a very different crowd than the Super Stores.

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 04:17:08 GMT, Ariane Jenkins wrote:

> Just about every Super Wal-Mart I've been to in the Ohio/Indiana
> area carries it. I can't imagine that it wouldn't be in San Francisco...?

You have absolutely no idea, Ariane. We are just a little burb,
really. No WalMart, no Target, no Home Depot (yet) within the city
limits.

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis! Most people don't think
of it as a large place. And I didn't even buy this cheese in the city... it
was in the burbs in Cordova! Schnuck's (supermarket) has a pretty decent
cheese shop.

> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

You'll love this stuff if you can find it! I'm definitely buying more. It
was in small (rindless) blocks, about 1/4 lb. The price tag indicates it's
$10.50/lb but they didn't have any larger blocks. Remind me to tell the
manager they need to continue to stock it... I truly think this was a trial
run for them since I've never seen it there before. I may run back over
there tomorrow to make sure I get more!

Jill

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >
> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
> >
> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> > down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
> >
> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!

If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your blinking
would have bowled me over!!!
>
> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen it there before.

YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.

On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> sf wrote:
>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>> >
>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>> > here.
>> >
>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>
> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your blinking
> would have bowled me over!!!
>>
>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen it
>> there before.
>
> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
> to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.
>
>
>

LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of Memphis! :-)
I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago. It is still one of my
favorite cities.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 21 Aug 2005 11:11:19p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:44:25 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> sf wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>> >
>>> > So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've
>>> > thrown down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it
>>> > here.
>>> >
>>> LOL You were so surprised at the size of Memphis!
>>
>> If we'd been standing face to face the breeze created by your
>> blinking would have bowled me over!!!
>>>
>>> I truly think this was a trial run for them since I've never seen
>>> it there before.
>>
>> YO - Wayne, did you read this? Memphis is bigger than SF and closer
>> to Europe... it probably has more residents of German ancestry too.
>>
>>
>>
>
> LOL! They do have the village of Germantown just outside of Memphis!
> :-) I lived in Memphis for a brief time many years ago. It is still
> one of my favorite cities.

You'd be surprised at the "village" of Germantown these days... it ain't no
"village"; it's an incorporated city (I live right outside of it). And
where the town of Collierville used to be just a few shops in the old town
square and some lovely old homes... let's just say when my LLL and I drove
out Highway 72 East (Poplar Avenue) to go to Huntsville, Alabama in June he
was agape and agog (I love that word! not sure I've ever used it in a
sentence before!) at Germantown and then Collierville. Poplar Avenue is one
of the busiest 6 lane thoroughfares you've ever seen. Between the
brick-fenced mansions and the occasional (still) fenced off horse ranches
there's every kind of chain restaurant and upscale mini-malls with fancy
shops like Whole Foods.

Once you turn right onto *old* highway 72 South, it's a step back in time
(or perhaps what everyone expects of a used-to-be small town in this part of
the country).

Jill

sf wrote on 21 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.
>
>

It is sold at Safeway up here. I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the
kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:

> It is sold at Safeway up here. I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the
> kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

I guees that means I need to get myself over to a larger one. NAH,
I'll put in on the shopping list and let my husband deal with those
crowds. He likes going to those stores.

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>
> It is sold at Safeway up here.

Do they label it butterkäse?

> I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the kind that adds stuff to cottage cheese.

sf wrote on 22 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
> >
> > It is sold at Safeway up here.
>
> Do they label it butterkäse?
>
> > I find it too mild a cheese. But I'm the kind that adds stuff to
> > cottage cheese.
>

Don't know...A woman at Work who only shops at safeway, brings slices of
it as a snack or part of her lunch. I have tried it but found it too
mild, at the time I tried it (10 yrs ago)...I lean more towards the
sharper tasting cheeses.




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sf wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:29 GMT, Mr Libido Incognito wrote:
>>
>> It is sold at Safeway up here.
>
> Do they label it butterkäse?
>
This was labelled "German Butter Cheese" but on the back (price) label it
said "Butter kaese" (I guess their printer can't do umlats and I don't care
to figure it out, but you'll get the drift). Gonna run and buy some more of
this, ASAP!

Jill

sf wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>
> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>
> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
> here.

A clerk at my neighborhood German deli tells em that they refer to what
is labelled "Tilsiter" or "Havarti" as butter cheese. They offer what
they call "mild" and "sharp" versions, neither of which is truly sharp.
I alway tell them to give me the one with the highest fat content
(which they call "mild), and I do find it very buttery. I like it on a
small roll with jagdwurst (a mild bologna-like wurst) and sweet/mild
German mustard (Lowensenf's).

-bwg

> wrote in message
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>
> sf wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:40:14 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> > Fantastic! I'll be buying this again.
>>
>> So, you went out into your "little" burb and found it! You've thrown
>> down the gauntlet, so now I have to see if I can find it here.
>>
>> Dang... who is it that works at the cheese shop in Berkeley? She
>> could tell me if I have a snowball's chance in h*ll of finding it
>> here.
>
> A clerk at my neighborhood German deli tells em that they refer to what
> is labelled "Tilsiter" or "Havarti" as butter cheese. They offer what
> they call "mild" and "sharp" versions, neither of which is truly sharp.
> I alway tell them to give me the one with the highest fat content
> (which they call "mild), and I do find it very buttery. I like it on a
> small roll with jagdwurst (a mild bologna-like wurst) and sweet/mild
> German mustard (Lowensenf's).
>
> -bwg
>
After reading the OP I went to my local German Deli and they no longer carry
it and I was told the same basically. Havarti.

I already know what havarti is like. I wanted Butter cheese.

MoM

"jmcquown" > wrote:

>Fantastic! I'll be buying this again. It has a nice smooth creamy texture
>(without being too soft) and a buttery lightly nutty taste. I had it on
>some melba toast rounds. I tried some sliced on the rosemary olive oil
>bread, toasted (like cheese-bread) but the rosemary overpowered the cheese.
>Next time perhaps a simple sliced baguette.
>
>Jill
>--
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>
>

I don't know if you saw my post about buying something like this back
in the late seventies regularly. From your description, it sounds
like exactly the same cheese. I thought the one I got was calle Creme
Kase or something like that. Now I see that the last word (however
it's spelled) only means cheese. But you seem to have found the same
stuff, and now I'm on a hunt - that was some really good cheese.

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