"hubert liverman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> . uk...
>> >
>> > "Desert Rainbow" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>
> Snips....
>>.
>> > I can assure you they are not the norm. The people I know are very sad
>> > for you all. We have had some similar things and we know the
>> > heartbreak
>> > and cost
>> >
>> > Ophelia
>> > Scotland
>> >>
>> I heard on the news earlier today that Germany has offered to help out.
>> I hear them -- "Ride of the Valkyrie"
>> Dee Dee
>
> Those that understand Americans with all their faults as will as their
> virtues,will respond as they can. From the sound of the Roman Legions
> gradually approaching in the Pines of Rome (Respighi), to the Wagnerian
> concept of the "Ladies From Hell", listen carefeully. The skirl of the
> pipes,marching feet and bugle calls,indicate that in whatever manner, the
> cavalry is on the way for those in need.
>
> Hubert
>
Hubert, your words are quite eloquent.
A Frenchman and Belgian man located a relative of mine's gravesite in France
who served. He wrote this to me:
"I hope that all of this will be a real help for our overseas
friends whose families have also given their blood for our
country (France). Let's never forget."

Yes, there are many who do thank us and give back in most unexpected ways.
Dee Dee

"Gabby" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> One of my favorites:
>> I was in Canada on your holiday, I think it was Boxer Day, (or your
>> similar Thanksgiving day) (or our Thanksgiving Day) and went to a
>> restaurant that touted 'gourmet' food. I must admit there was nothing
>> that was fixed 'good enough for me.' But one thing I did enjoy was the
>> pea soup. It took me a long time to research what kind of soup this was.
>> I heard later it was considered Canadian's national soup. It's still a
>> little difficult to find this type of pea (for me).
>
> I would never consider pea soup the national soup of Canada. I do
> associate it with the province of Québec.
>
> Gabby

Yes, I believe it WAS in Quebec City. I will make no further observations as
it would probably relate to politics and pea soup which may put the whole
national soup question/debate (on my part) in jeopardy :-)
Merci,
Dee Dee

Gabby wrote:

> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>One of my favorites:
>>I was in Canada on your holiday, I think it was Boxer Day, (or your
>>similar Thanksgiving day) (or our Thanksgiving Day) and went to a
>>restaurant that touted 'gourmet' food. I must admit there was nothing
>>that was fixed 'good enough for me.' But one thing I did enjoy was the pea
>>soup. It took me a long time to research what kind of soup this was. I
>>heard later it was considered Canadian's national soup. It's still a
>>little difficult to find this type of pea (for me).
>
>
> I would never consider pea soup the national soup of Canada. I do associate
> it with the province of Québec.
>
> Gabby
>
>
It is a very French soup I make it but I used died peas in a
traditional soup.

"Dave W." > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "hubert liverman" > wrote:
>
> > "Dave W." > wrote in message
>
> > > I hate "me too" posts, but ... Me too!
The cultural and econmic map has changed forever in the
> > gulf coast region...it is a real loss for all.
> >
> > Hubert

> Brings tears to my eyes. We have refugees showing up here in
> Fayetteville, northwest Arkansas. Its heartbreaking.
>
> Dave W.

A little gallows humor here....Lets start a franchise operation and hire as
many Creole/Cajun cooks/waitstaff as we can and go nation wide. Them folks
way outta town won't know what hit them. Good food,service and the patios of
a soft southern voice will astound them. They won't comprehend the subtile
ironic humor of selling them a nostalga that they only imagine. We might as
well as admit that NO is the Venice Of America... lots of bad water in the
streets.

Oh Well....

Cheers

Hubert

Dee Randall wrote:

> "Gabby" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>"Dee Randall" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>>>One of my favorites:
>>>I was in Canada on your holiday, I think it was Boxer Day, (or your
>>>similar Thanksgiving day) (or our Thanksgiving Day) and went to a
>>>restaurant that touted 'gourmet' food. I must admit there was nothing
>>>that was fixed 'good enough for me.' But one thing I did enjoy was the
>>>pea soup. It took me a long time to research what kind of soup this was.
>>>I heard later it was considered Canadian's national soup. It's still a
>>>little difficult to find this type of pea (for me).
>>
>>I would never consider pea soup the national soup of Canada. I do
>>associate it with the province of Québec.
>>
>>Gabby
>
>
> Yes, I believe it WAS in Quebec City. I will make no further observations as
> it would probably relate to politics and pea soup which may put the whole
> national soup question/debate (on my part) in jeopardy :-)
> Merci,
> Dee Dee
>
>
Nah, don't worry about the politics. The important thing here is the
food. I don't think there is a real national soup for Canada although
having grown up in a town with a canning factory, tomato soup would be
my guess. Pea soup is very French so the best pea soup is likely found
in Quebec or in the homes of those of French descent who use traditional
recipes. I make pea soup in the traditional manner. I've often thought
of chicken noodle soup as being Dutch only because my MIL taught me how
to make it. She wasn't Dutch but got the recipe from DH's grandmother
who came from Holland in the early 1950's. I doubt it is really Dutch.
Our ancestors all created soups much for the same reasons we do so
now. They are cheap and filling and they use what is on hand. They are
very versatile since you can drop dumplings into them for a totally
different meal or thicken and use as a filling for meat pies or stews.
During the winter months I rely on soups more as appetizers but also
as complete meals. During the fall, I drink tomato soup instead of
coffee in the morning. It brings back childhood memories and tastes
excellent

Sheldon wrote:
> Goomba38 wrote:
>
>>Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why would anyone ~choose~ to live under such primitive conditions in a third
>>>world country?
>>>
>>>What am I missing?
>>
>>Perhaps the same types who like to go camping on vacay, while I like
>>room service when I'm on holiday?
>
>
> Also, many in the US actually live not much differently than as if they
> were in a third world country, only they don't seem to know it...
> always announcing how poor they are, always announcing how they
> scrimp... of course it's *entirely* their *choice* yet they continue to
> maintain an underprivileged life style, for whatever reason only their
> shink could possibly know. Those who are born into a third world
> country haven't much choice but anyone who chooses to move to and live
> there obviously has some element of guilt in their psyche, and/or they
> simply choose to forego certain creature comforts in lieu of recieving
> much more value for their US dollars than had they remained in the
> US... many US retirees move to Central America, a US pension can buy
> quite an opulent life style, if they're in relatively good health
> (typically medical resources aren't the best) and willing to forego
> things like being able to buy the latest fashions... but they can have
> nice homes, eat extremely well, even have servants (btw, a housekeeper
> for a US family is a very enviable position, it ensures the
> housekeeper's family will be tended to also, and is a somewhat
> symbiotic relationship, ensuring a smooth transition for the US family
> amongst the locals). But I really wonder about those born in and
> living in the US *choosing* to live impoverished life styles, they seem
> to really enjoy whining, I doubt they are too well wrapped.
>
> Sheldon
>
It's amazing to see how people that are born in this country, want a
pity party thrown at them and yet don't want to lift a finger.

My uncle came from Cuba (with a minimum education: grade 9) in 1961. 20
years later, through very hard work and brains, owned a restaurant (The
Clam Broth House in Hoboken, NJ, with nine dining rooms, 2 of them being
formal ones where Joe Franklin from the Joe Franklin show frequented,
Frank Sinatra's mother, just to mention a few regulars) as well as 3
buildings. His first night in the US was spent washing dishes in NY
hotels and sleeping in the NYC subway. He moved up in the ranks of the
restaurant business, and when he studied the owners of those
restaurants, he realized he could do the same or better.

And he's one of the most nicest people still alive. Just an example; a
guy from Uruguay that used to work for him at the restaurant told him he
needed 5000K to bury his mother. It was all a lie. Years later, he came
back crying to my uncle for a job, and my uncle gave him one, and
forgave him his debt. I think that encapsulates the type of guy he is.

In this country, if you work hard and use 1/10 of your neurons, you will
be able to live the American dream; and then some.

Rich

--




"But the very hairs of your head are all numbered."

Existence (Ancient Roman Palestine)






"Dum Spiro, Spero."

As long as I breath, I hope.

Cicero (Ancient Rome)

Richard Periut wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > Goomba38 wrote:
> >
> >>Sheryl Rosen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Why would anyone ~choose~ to live under such primitive conditions in a third
> >>>world country?
> >>>
> >>>What am I missing?
> >>
> >>Perhaps the same types who like to go camping on vacay, while I like
> >>room service when I'm on holiday?
> >
> >
> > Also, many in the US actually live not much differently than as if they
> > were in a third world country, only they don't seem to know it...
> > always announcing how poor they are, always announcing how they
> > scrimp... of course it's *entirely* their *choice* yet they continue to
> > maintain an underprivileged life style, for whatever reason only their
> > shink could possibly know. Those who are born into a third world
> > country haven't much choice but anyone who chooses to move to and live
> > there obviously has some element of guilt in their psyche, and/or they
> > simply choose to forego certain creature comforts in lieu of recieving
> > much more value for their US dollars than had they remained in the
> > US... many US retirees move to Central America, a US pension can buy
> > quite an opulent life style, if they're in relatively good health
> > (typically medical resources aren't the best) and willing to forego
> > things like being able to buy the latest fashions... but they can have
> > nice homes, eat extremely well, even have servants (btw, a housekeeper
> > for a US family is a very enviable position, it ensures the
> > housekeeper's family will be tended to also, and is a somewhat
> > symbiotic relationship, ensuring a smooth transition for the US family
> > amongst the locals). But I really wonder about those born in and
> > living in the US *choosing* to live impoverished life styles, they seem
> > to really enjoy whining, I doubt they are too well wrapped.
> >
> > Sheldon
> >
> It's amazing to see how people that are born in this country, want a
> pity party thrown at them and yet don't want to lift a finger.
>
> My uncle came from Cuba (with a minimum education: grade 9) in 1961. 20
> years later, through very hard work and brains, owned a restaurant (The
> Clam Broth House in Hoboken, NJ, with nine dining rooms, 2 of them being
> formal ones where Joe Franklin from the Joe Franklin show frequented,
> Frank Sinatra's mother, just to mention a few regulars) as well as 3
> buildings. His first night in the US was spent washing dishes in NY
> hotels and sleeping in the NYC subway. He moved up in the ranks of the
> restaurant business, and when he studied the owners of those
> restaurants, he realized he could do the same or better.
>
> And he's one of the most nicest people still alive. Just an example; a
> guy from Uruguay that used to work for him at the restaurant told him he
> needed 5000K to bury his mother. It was all a lie. Years later, he came
> back crying to my uncle for a job, and my uncle gave him one, and
> forgave him his debt. I think that encapsulates the type of guy he is.
>
> In this country, if you work hard and use 1/10 of your neurons, you will
> be able to live the American dream; and then some.

Amen.

But I'm positive the pity party poops will think your uncle was just
lucky... well maybe he was lucky... lucky he wasn't afraid of work.

Sheldon

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 06:04:49p, Bubbabob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>>
>> It won't help us today or tomorrow, but AZ is planning a huge new
>> refinery.
>>
>
> Where there's no oil. That makes a lot of sense.
>

They pipe crude all over the country. Why not to AZ?

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

The environmental situation at those refineriess is such that it
would be cost prohibitive to reopen them. The refineries closed (
mostly ) as a result of the Clean Air Act of 1990 and the
Implementation Schedule. in 1998 and early 99 , the oil price collapsed
to 10..00 a barrel or 6.50 a barrel in Venezuela. So there was no
money to make the big air pollution improvememnts.
Rosie

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 06:51:19p, rosie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> The environmental situation at those refineriess is such that it
> would be cost prohibitive to reopen them. The refineries closed (
> mostly ) as a result of the Clean Air Act of 1990 and the
> Implementation Schedule. in 1998 and early 99 , the oil price collapsed
> to 10..00 a barrel or 6.50 a barrel in Venezuela. So there was no
> money to make the big air pollution improvememnts.
> Rosie
>

Rosie, please try and quote what your responding to. It makes it ever so
much easier to follow the thread.

Thank you...

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

Pandora wrote:
> "jmcquown" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
>> Pandora wrote:
>>> "Bob" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> ...
>>>> -L wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What's your heritage, Sheldon? How how I suspect you are of
>>>>> European descent as well...
>>>>
>>>> Sheldon's descended from German Jews.
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>> I wonder how he can live in Canada if he hates Canadians!
>>
>> He doesn't live in Canada. And just because he posts something with
>> the subject "Hey Jill" does not mean I agree with his hatred of all
>> other cultures and countries; I want to make that perfectly clear.
>>
>> Jill
>
>>> But I have seen that he lives in Canada in the map of Rfc'rs. Is it
>>> possible?
> Pandora

Nope; he just plunked himself down too high up on the map

Jill

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 07:48:58p, Bubbabob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>>
>> They pipe crude all over the country. Why not to AZ?
>>
>
> Because it costs to pipe it. They should build it here in NM where the
> wells are. Also, pipelines are completely indefensible, as we've learned
> in Iraq.
>

Then why haven't they already done that in NM? I'd rather have it in AZ than
not at all.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

jmcquown wrote on 31 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking

> >>> But I have seen that he lives in Canada in the map of Rfc'rs. Is it
> >>> possible?
> > Pandora
>
> Nope; he just plunked himself down too high up on the map
>
> Jill
>
>

He just wishes he lived there. Most people in the US wish he lived
there,too

--
The eyes are the mirrors....
But the ears...Ah the ears.
The ears keep the hat up.

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 08:18:41p, Mr Libido Incognito wrote in
rec.food.cooking:

> jmcquown wrote on 31 Aug 2005 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> >>> But I have seen that he lives in Canada in the map of Rfc'rs. Is it
>> >>> possible? Pandora
>>
>> Nope; he just plunked himself down too high up on the map
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> He just wishes he lived there. Most people in the US wish he lived
> there,too
>

More likely he doesn't know where the hell he is. He's certainly not in
his right mind.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

Mr Libido Incognito wrote about Sheldon's icon in Canada:

> He just wishes he lived there. Most people in the US wish he lived
> there,too

Nah...here's a list of countries where I'd like Sheldon to take up permanent
residence:

Sudan
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Algeria
Somalia
Uzbekistan
Kenya
Iran
Iraq
Congo-Kinshasa
Nepal
Haiti
Nigeria
Saudi Arabia
Indonesia
Yemen
Central African Republic
Philippines
Zimbabwe
Liberia
Burundi


Bob

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:48:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> >>
> >> I don't understand why people who are staying in hotels feel that
> >> they are 'safe'.
> >> I surely wouldn't.
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > Safer than a frame built house or trailer perhaps, but with a Cat 4,
> > nothing is truly safe.
>
> It's a Cat 5. They are comparing it to Andrew and Camille, if you remember
> those.
>
I don't remember those being as bad.

On 29 Aug 2005 05:02:40 -0700, Sandi wrote:

>
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Gabby wrote:
> > > "rosie" > wrote in message
> > > ups.com...
> > >> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
> > >> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
> > >>
> > >> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
> > >> thing driving the price of oil.
> > >>
> > >> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .
> > >
> > > Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of
> > > evacuating the area.
> > >
> > > Gabby
> >
> > No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
> > are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
> > won't leave, they can't make me".
>
> No Jill, it means many are poor and/or homeless urban inner-city
> dwellers who don't have cars or don't know people with cars. They are
> the elderly who don't drive and who don't have family members in the
> area who drive. They are the people with no choice but to stay. Your
> empathy, compassion, and respect for the elderly and poor who cannot
> evacuate on their own is overwhelming.
>
> Anyone else - like the tourists who think it's cool to stay - are fools
> who made the choice to commit suicide by hurricane. Because many
> Americans own cell phones, cars, have toilets, have electronics, they
> assume everyone in the world, including some of their fellow Americans,
> own the same. Too bad it isn't true.
>
> Sandi

Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 09:49:03p, Bob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Mr Libido Incognito wrote about Sheldon's icon in Canada:
>
>> He just wishes he lived there. Most people in the US wish he lived
>> there,too
>
> Nah...here's a list of countries where I'd like Sheldon to take up
> permanent residence:
>
> Sudan
> Bosnia-Herzegovina
> Algeria
> Somalia
> Uzbekistan
> Kenya
> Iran
> Iraq
> Congo-Kinshasa
> Nepal
> Haiti
> Nigeria
> Saudi Arabia
> Indonesia
> Yemen
> Central African Republic
> Philippines
> Zimbabwe
> Liberia
> Burundi
>
>
> Bob

It would be best if he were equally divided among all of them.


--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

On Wed 31 Aug 2005 09:53:40p, sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:48:21 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> > "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand why people who are staying in hotels feel that
>> >> they are 'safe'.
>> >> I surely wouldn't.
>> >> Dee Dee
>> >
>> > Safer than a frame built house or trailer perhaps, but with a Cat 4,
>> > nothing is truly safe.
>>
>> It's a Cat 5. They are comparing it to Andrew and Camille, if you
>> remember those.
>>
> I don't remember those being as bad.

When it hit NO, it was only a Cat 4, but for some reason the damage is
actually far worse.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

Sheldon wrote:

> My father and all his ancestors before him for countless generations
> were from Latvia (Riga).

No, that's the man you THOUGHT was your father. Your hosebag whore of a
mother spread her legs for anybody with a nickel (but she tried to Jew up
the price if her gonorrhea wasn't showing). Your REAL father was
undoubtedly one of the dozens of strapping German lads who gang-banged her
on weeknights, and she sang the Horst Wessel Song right along with them.

Bob

"jmcquown" > ha scritto nel messaggio
.. .
> Pandora wrote:
>> "jmcquown" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>> ...
>>> Pandora wrote:
>>>> "Bob" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>> ...
>>>>> -L wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's your heritage, Sheldon? How how I suspect you are of
>>>>>> European descent as well...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheldon's descended from German Jews.
>>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how he can live in Canada if he hates Canadians!
>>>
>>> He doesn't live in Canada. And just because he posts something with
>>> the subject "Hey Jill" does not mean I agree with his hatred of all
>>> other cultures and countries; I want to make that perfectly clear.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>>>> But I have seen that he lives in Canada in the map of Rfc'rs. Is it
>>>> possible?
>> Pandora
>
> Nope; he just plunked himself down too high up on the map
>
> Jill
>
I've seen just now that sheldon is in Canada! Possible?
Pandora
>

sf wrote:

> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.



If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a good
while.

In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.

Imho,

Andy

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, sf wrote:

> On 29 Aug 2005 05:02:40 -0700, Sandi wrote:
>
>>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>> > Gabby wrote:
>> >> "rosie" > wrote in message
>> >> ups.com...
>> >>> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
>> >>> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
>> >>>
>> >>> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
>> >>> thing driving the price of oil.
>> >>>
>> >>> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .
>> >>
>> >> Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of
>> >> evacuating the area.
>> >>
>> >> Gabby
>> >
>> > No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
>> > are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
>> > won't leave, they can't make me".
>>
>> No Jill, it means many are poor and/or homeless urban inner-city
>> dwellers who don't have cars or don't know people with cars. They are
>> the elderly who don't drive and who don't have family members in the
>> area who drive. They are the people with no choice but to stay. Your
>> empathy, compassion, and respect for the elderly and poor who cannot
>> evacuate on their own is overwhelming.

If they decided to evacuate pittsburgh today, I'd be dead. I accept that
as one of the prices of not having a car. If someone says evacuate an
area now, are you going to wait until I walk an hour to get to your house?

I have friends in this city, but not many live nearby.

Lena

okay, so maybe I could hotwire a car. If only I knew how....

"Andy" <q> wrote in message
...
> sf wrote:
>
>> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
>> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.
>
>
>
> If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a good
> while.
>
> In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.

I was watching it on tv today. It is absolutely hellish

Ophelia wrote:

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
> ...
>> sf wrote:
>>
>>> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
>>> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a
good
>> while.
>>
>> In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.
>
> I was watching it on tv today. It is absolutely hellish


Agreed!

As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken on
sight as punishment to fit the crime!

No mercy,

Andy

"Andy" <q> wrote in message
.. .
| Ophelia wrote:
|
| >
| > "Andy" <q> wrote in message
| > ...
| >> sf wrote:
| >>
| >>> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
| >>> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a
| good
| >> while.
| >>
| >> In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.
| >
| > I was watching it on tv today. It is absolutely hellish
|
|
| Agreed!
|
| As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken on
| sight as punishment to fit the crime!
|
| No mercy,
|

The situation is getting worse down there. Hard to believe that it is
possible in a western civilized city, that such lawlessness is taking over.
I thank God that I have never known such desperation that is causing this
type of behaviour. I sure hope these people get the help they need soon.

Debbie

Dog3 wrote:
> "rosie" wrote:
>
> > And here I am , adding on to my own post.. I have all ready donated .
> > Have you ?
>
> Any ideas on where to send a cash donation?

If it's cash you may as well send it to my PO Box as any other.

Sheldon

"Lena B Katz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, sf wrote:
>
>> On 29 Aug 2005 05:02:40 -0700, Sandi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> > Gabby wrote:
>>> >> "rosie" > wrote in message
>>> >> ups.com...
>>> >>> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
>>> >>> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
>>> >>> thing driving the price of oil.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .
>>> >>
>>> >> Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of
>>> >> evacuating the area.
>>> >>
>>> >> Gabby
>>> >
>>> > No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean
>>> > they
>>> > are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens
>>> > eruption, "I
>>> > won't leave, they can't make me".
>>>
>>> No Jill, it means many are poor and/or homeless urban inner-city
>>> dwellers who don't have cars or don't know people with cars. They are
>>> the elderly who don't drive and who don't have family members in the
>>> area who drive. They are the people with no choice but to stay. Your
>>> empathy, compassion, and respect for the elderly and poor who cannot
>>> evacuate on their own is overwhelming.
>
> If they decided to evacuate pittsburgh today, I'd be dead. I accept that
> as one of the prices of not having a car. If someone says evacuate an
> area now, are you going to wait until I walk an hour to get to your house?

Yep,
Dee Dee

"Andy" <q> wrote in message
.. .
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>>
>> "Andy" <q> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> sf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
>>>> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a
> good
>>> while.
>>>
>>> In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.
>>
>> I was watching it on tv today. It is absolutely hellish
>
>
> Agreed!
>
> As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken
> on
> sight as punishment to fit the crime!

One report says that the embankments built to keep the water out is now
keeping it in

Bubbabob > wrote in
. 3.30:

> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> It won't help us today or tomorrow, but AZ is planning a huge new
>> refinery.
>
> Where there's no oil. That makes a lot of sense.

It's called a pipeline. Eastern Canada has no oil, but we have
refineries which turn the crude we get through the Portland (Maine)
pipeline into useable products. I'm not fond of the process, but
having refineries close to the source is not a necessity.

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> Mr Libido Incognito wrote about Sheldon's icon in Canada:
>
> > He just wishes he lived there. Most people in the US wish he lived
> > there,too
>
> Nah...here's a list of countries where I'd like Sheldon to take up
permanent
> residence:

What did any of those countries ever do to you, to deserve
something like THAT?

Bob M.

tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> I do know that Americans are the most generous people in the world.
>> We rush to help whenever there is a tragedy. We give,-- not just
>> dollars, but knowhow. We send people in, often volunteers who are
>> unpaid ( Red Cross) We are the first to help and one of the last to
>> leave.
>
> How do you know that Americans are the "most" generous? Because you
> saw it on American TV? Or maybe you saw it in Reader's Digest or
> heard it in a speech given by Ronald Reagan. I just need a reference
> for my files if that's not too much trouble.
>
Readers Digest? Ronald Reagan? Good lord, what decade are you living in?
LOL

Jill

One time on Usenet, Dog3 > said:
> "rosie" > wrote in
> oups.com:

> > And here I am , adding on to my own post.. I have all ready donated .
> > Have you ?

> Not yet but I'm going to. Any ideas on where to send a cash donation?

You're a good egg, Michael (ObFood?). May I suggest the American
Red Cross:

http://www.redcross.org/

--
Jani in WA (S'mee)
~ mom, VidGamer, novice cook, dieter ~

~patches~ wrote:
> Bob Myers wrote:
>
>> "~patches~" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> I hope you don't speak for all Americans As a Canadian I take
>>> great offense to your statement as I'm sure others do. Shame on
>>> you.
>>>
>>
>>
> That's good to hear I know our local churches have already sprung
> to action with collections of clothes and food to go down to the
> devastated areas (snippage)

You may well want to consider (as well as your local churches) before you go
down to offer help. They have to get a handle on the situation before they
are letting *anyone* other than official rescue organizations, National
Guard, etc. in. Better to take your donations to a location where they can
be sent there without trying to go down and help out personally. You
wouldn't find any place to stay, anyway.

Jill

Pandora wrote:
> "jmcquown" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> .. .
>> Pandora wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>> ...
>>>> Pandora wrote:
>>>>> "Bob" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> -L wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's your heritage, Sheldon? How how I suspect you are of
>>>>>>> European descent as well...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheldon's descended from German Jews.
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder how he can live in Canada if he hates Canadians!
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't live in Canada. And just because he posts something
>>>> with the subject "Hey Jill" does not mean I agree with his hatred
>>>> of all other cultures and countries; I want to make that perfectly
>>>> clear.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>>> But I have seen that he lives in Canada in the map of Rfc'rs. Is
>>>>> it possible?
>>> Pandora
>>
>> Nope; he just plunked himself down too high up on the map
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I've seen just now that sheldon is in Canada! Possible?
> Pandora

No, Pandora. He lives in upstate New York.

Jill

Bubbabob > wrote in
. 3.30:

> Michel Boucher > wrote:
>
>> It's called a pipeline. Eastern Canada has no oil, but we have
>> refineries which turn the crude we get through the Portland
(Maine)
>> pipeline into useable products. I'm not fond of the process, but
>> having refineries close to the source is not a necessity.
>
> It is if you're worried about people blowing up your energy
> infrasctructure.

Blowing up? I'd say the majority of your oil problems are related to
stuff blowing away, not up. So far, the only action against your
petroleum supply has come from Nature, and of course the oil
companies jacking up the price because of so-called shortages.

It would seem silly to put refineries near sources which themselves
are constantly in the path of hurricanes. And you thought it was al-
Qaeda; all this time it was Mater Natura...

--

"Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

Dostoevski, The Idiot

"Ophelia" > wrote:
>One report says that the embankments built to keep the water out is now
>keeping it in

Not really. The water level in the city is now equalized with the
lake, which is a little bit above the river. If the embankments were
not there, the level wouldn't drop enough to make a real difference.

D.
--
Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

-Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings.
Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 07:28:08 -0500, Andy wrote:

> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
> > "Andy" <q> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> sf wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
> >>> Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If I had a year's supply of food and water, I'd still leave for a
> good
> >> while.
> >>
> >> In practical terms, New Orleans is dead.
> >
> > I was watching it on tv today. It is absolutely hellish
>
>
> Agreed!
>
> As for the looters, imho, they should simply have their wrists broken on
> sight as punishment to fit the crime!
>
> No mercy,
>
> Andy

Maybe there are looters who are out to make a profit, but I think most
of them are just trying to survive.

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:55:53 -0700, sf > wrote:

>Sandi - you're absolutely right. Those who could leave, did leave.
>Those who stayed either couldn't leave or were fool hearty.

"Fool hearty" was an interesting typo - their hearts *were* foolish,
but hindsight is always 20/20.

Dammit.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:55:15 -0400, "Debbie" >
wrote:

>The situation is getting worse down there. Hard to believe that it is
>possible in a western civilized city, that such lawlessness is taking over.
>I thank God that I have never known such desperation that is causing this
>type of behaviour. I sure hope these people get the help they need soon.

I think a large part of the looting is simple desperation. If you have
not had food or drink for 2 or 3 days... As for the looters who are
going for greed - may they rot in hell.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"