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Default Hurricane Katrina

Wowsa! This is a big hurricane. Hope everyone on the gulf coast evac'd
early; I would not want to be driving north with that traffic. The news
media is telling folks in Louisiana and Mississippi to head towards Memphis.
I'm sure the hotel and motel people will be glad of that. It's pouring down
rain here (early fallout, I'm sure) and the temperature didn't get above 80F
today. So much for grilling squash. BUT! I can use my oven to make squash
casserole!

Talk of lobster, crab, etc., set off a major craving. Unfortunately, I
don't have any lobster and I'm saving the frozen Alaskan snow crab
legs/claws for another day. So I'll be making salmon patties for dinner to
go with the squash. Yum and yum again!

Jill
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Maybe it'll whip some crawfish up here to Lake Erie!

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On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:31:56p, morgul the friendly drelb wrote in
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> Maybe it'll whip some crawfish up here to Lake Erie!


Highly doubtful! :-) You better stick with that great Lake Perch and
Pickerel.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> morgul the friendly drelb wrote:
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> > Maybe it'll whip some crawfish up here to Lake Erie!

>
> Highly doubtful! :-) You better stick with that great Lake Perch and
> Pickerel.


EEEEEEWWWWWW!!! I wouldn't eat anything outta that stinkpot, imported or not


<spent long enough living on the shores of Lake Erie to know better>


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On Mon 29 Aug 2005 05:05:02p, pennyaline wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> morgul the friendly drelb wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe it'll whip some crawfish up here to Lake Erie!

>>
>> Highly doubtful! :-) You better stick with that great Lake Perch and
>> Pickerel.

>
> EEEEEEWWWWWW!!! I wouldn't eat anything outta that stinkpot, imported or
> not
>
> <spent long enough living on the shores of Lake Erie to know better>


So did I. I spent 43 years there, through the period when it was considered
a "dead" lake until 2000. Lake Erie is thriving and viable, and the fish
(which were nearly extinct) have come back and are wonderful.

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On 30 Aug 2005 03:02:25 +0200, Wayne Boatwright
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>So did I. I spent 43 years there, through the period when it was considered
>a "dead" lake until 2000. Lake Erie is thriving and viable, and the fish
>(which were nearly extinct) have come back and are wonderful.

I go fishing there every chance I get. There's nothing wrong with the
lake. Why the river won't even burn now.

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>EEEEEEWWWWWW!!! I wouldn't eat anything outta that stinkpot, imported or not
Lake Erie is one of the cleanest bodies of water at the present time
....
Attribute this to it being relativally shallow (rapid turnover), the
decline of industry on it's shores, and the zebra mussel (Ma Nature's
filter).

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On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:27:09p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Talk of lobster, crab, etc., set off a major craving. Unfortunately, I
> don't have any lobster and I'm saving the frozen Alaskan snow crab
> legs/claws for another day. So I'll be making salmon patties for dinner to
> go with the squash. Yum and yum again!
>


Do you make a sauce for your salmon patties? I often make a white sauce with
dillweed and chopped, seeded, cucumber.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:27:09p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Talk of lobster, crab, etc., set off a major craving.
>> Unfortunately, I don't have any lobster and I'm saving the frozen
>> Alaskan snow crab legs/claws for another day. So I'll be making
>> salmon patties for dinner to go with the squash. Yum and yum again!
>>

>
> Do you make a sauce for your salmon patties? I often make a white
> sauce with dillweed and chopped, seeded, cucumber.


Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't Bolivar gave me a great recipe for his
salmon croquettes which has a white sauce in it as a binder and again as a
sauce on top. He bakes his in a cast iron pan with fish shapes similar to a
cornstick pan (that's got to make them more fun!) Not sure I'm going to
bother with sauce tonight, though. I never really know until I start to
cook!

Jill


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On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:46:49p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:27:09p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Talk of lobster, crab, etc., set off a major craving.
>>> Unfortunately, I don't have any lobster and I'm saving the frozen
>>> Alaskan snow crab legs/claws for another day. So I'll be making
>>> salmon patties for dinner to go with the squash. Yum and yum again!
>>>

>>
>> Do you make a sauce for your salmon patties? I often make a white
>> sauce with dillweed and chopped, seeded, cucumber.

>
> Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't Bolivar gave me a great recipe for
> his salmon croquettes which has a white sauce in it as a binder and
> again as a sauce on top. He bakes his in a cast iron pan with fish
> shapes similar to a cornstick pan (that's got to make them more fun!)
> Not sure I'm going to bother with sauce tonight, though. I never really
> know until I start to cook!


Yep, you need a thick white sauce for croquettes. Love 'em. If I have
leftover salmon patties, I use them for sandwiches.

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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:46:49p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> On Sun 28 Aug 2005 12:27:09p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >>> Talk of lobster, crab, etc., set off a major craving.
> >>> Unfortunately, I don't have any lobster and I'm saving the frozen
> >>> Alaskan snow crab legs/claws for another day. So I'll be making
> >>> salmon patties for dinner to go with the squash. Yum and yum again!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do you make a sauce for your salmon patties? I often make a white
> >> sauce with dillweed and chopped, seeded, cucumber.

> >
> > Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't Bolivar gave me a great recipe for
> > his salmon croquettes which has a white sauce in it as a binder and
> > again as a sauce on top. He bakes his in a cast iron pan with fish
> > shapes similar to a cornstick pan (that's got to make them more fun!)
> > Not sure I'm going to bother with sauce tonight, though. I never really
> > know until I start to cook!

>
> Yep, you need a thick white sauce for croquettes.


For coquettes? Don't you mean for trollops?

Theldon

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airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.

Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
thing driving the price of oil.

I do hope all have gone to higher ground .

Rosie

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rosie wrote:
> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
>

Exactly. I've no idea why some people have to turn the weather into a
political statement. It's not like people living on the east coast and the
gulf area aren't used to hurricanes. And it's not like there were no
hurricanes before the current administration.


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"rosie" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
>
> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
> thing driving the price of oil.
>
> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .


Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of evacuating the
area.

Gabby




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Gabby wrote:
> "rosie" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
>> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
>>
>> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
>> thing driving the price of oil.
>>
>> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .

>
> Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of
> evacuating the area.
>
> Gabby


No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
won't leave, they can't make me".

Still no reason to start bashing politicos; want to bash someone, bash your
version of "god" for the hurricane. Politics have nothing to do with it.

Jill


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jmcquown wrote:

> No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
> are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
> won't leave, they can't make me".


This afternoon Shepard Smith from Fox TV was trying to do an interview
in a bar on Bourbon St. He asked one guy why he hadn't left yet and
his response was "None of your ****ing business". Right on live TV.
I'd say there's some attitude there, definitely.

> Still no reason to start bashing politicos; want to bash someone, bash your
> version of "god" for the hurricane. Politics have nothing to do with it.


I completely agree.

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Jill wrote:

> Still no reason to start bashing politicos; want to bash someone, bash
> your version of "god" for the hurricane. Politics have nothing to do
> with it.


If the risk is known and the politicians don't take adequate measures to
alleviate the damage, SHOULDN'T they be blamed? Here, read this:

http://americanradioworks.publicradi...urricane1.html

Bob


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"jmcquown" > said:

> No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
> are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
> won't leave, they can't make me".


I would guess that the people with cars have crammed said cars with as many
of their valuables as possible, and don't have room for helping the
have-nots of society.

I'd also suspect that a lot of the have-nots would have moved away many
years ago if they could afford to do so (you know someone right now who is
in that position).

The poor will most likely represent the largest loss of life, and I don't
believe that, for most of them, they had many options.

Carol
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jmcquown wrote:
> Gabby wrote:
> > "rosie" > wrote in message
> > ups.com...
> >> airlift people north ??? Are you kidding ? They can go north under
> >> their own steam, there has been plenty of warning.
> >>
> >> Gasoline prices will no doubt be impacted, this is only one of many
> >> thing driving the price of oil.
> >>
> >> I do hope all have gone to higher ground .

> >
> > Officials say there are tens of thousands who have no way of
> > evacuating the area.
> >
> > Gabby

>
> No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car? Or does this mean they
> are being stubborn, as in the wake of the 1980's Mt. St. Helens eruption, "I
> won't leave, they can't make me".


No Jill, it means many are poor and/or homeless urban inner-city
dwellers who don't have cars or don't know people with cars. They are
the elderly who don't drive and who don't have family members in the
area who drive. They are the people with no choice but to stay. Your
empathy, compassion, and respect for the elderly and poor who cannot
evacuate on their own is overwhelming.

Anyone else - like the tourists who think it's cool to stay - are fools
who made the choice to commit suicide by hurricane. Because many
Americans own cell phones, cars, have toilets, have electronics, they
assume everyone in the world, including some of their fellow Americans,
own the same. Too bad it isn't true.

Sandi



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>No way? What, they don't know anyone with a car?
Sounds a lot like "Let them eat cake". In many urban communities auto
ownership is not common, and there are only so many folks you can get
into one auto. Couple that with NO gasoline, and breakdowns due to
water getting into the works, and flooded roads ...

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"Tony P." wrote:

> Perhaps if we weren't having our little misadventure in the Middle East
> and using National Guard troops to do the job we could airlift people
> north. But no.


Airlift people? Why? I live about 1500 miles north of there and I knew that it was
headed there two days ago. That was more than enough time for people to head for
safety.

> And from what I've been reading - this could also impact gasoline
> prices. Lots of refineries in that area.


Yep. That will be the next excuse to gouge consumers. I sure am glad that I
bought a Honda last month. Despite a 20% increase in the cost of gasoline, my
weekly gas bill is less than half what it was with my old van.



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Dave Smith wrote:
> "Tony P." wrote:
>
>> Perhaps if we weren't having our little misadventure in the Middle
>> East
>> and using National Guard troops to do the job we could airlift people
>> north. But no.

>
> Airlift people? Why? I live about 1500 miles north of there and I
> knew that it was headed there two days ago. That was more than enough
> time for people to head for safety.
>
>> And from what I've been reading - this could also impact gasoline
>> prices. Lots of refineries in that area.

>
> Yep. That will be the next excuse to gouge consumers. I sure am glad
> that I bought a Honda last month. Despite a 20% increase in the cost
> of gasoline, my weekly gas bill is less than half what it was with my
> old van.


As I previously stated, some folks will use any excuse to jump on the
political band-wagon. It's not like hurricanes didn't exist before the
current administration. I seriously doubt Tony P. remembers the "oil
crisis" from the 1970's. We weathered that storm; we'll weather this one.

Jill


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Getting back to food, Katrina will change the economy/ecology of south
Mississippi,entire Louisiana delta country and further. All of the
hotels,restaurants,cab drivers,cooks,wait,
musicians,bartenders,fisherman,farmers,will be affected..etc. The structural
devastation of the area may cause many property,restaurant,home
owner/renters,etc to seek employment else. No place to work,no jobs,nowhere
to live,and no way how to hold on long enough.. This may the devastation
that can destroy an entire ambience,lifestyle,cuisine of an area that should
be preserved at all cost. I am a fan of regional cuisine,however when we
loose the wonderful Creole Ladies and Mens that do their job so well,it is a
sad loss indeed. This is not to denegrate in any way other regional
cuisines,but to exault them. Love it all..if you will.

Merciful end to this post!

Hubert
Opelika,AL

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In article >,
"hubert liverman" > wrote:

> Getting back to food, Katrina will change the economy/ecology of south
> Mississippi,entire Louisiana delta country and further. All of the
> hotels,restaurants,cab drivers,cooks,wait,
> musicians,bartenders,fisherman,farmers,will be affected..etc. The structural
> devastation of the area may cause many property,restaurant,home
> owner/renters,etc to seek employment else. No place to work,no jobs,nowhere
> to live,and no way how to hold on long enough.. This may the devastation
> that can destroy an entire ambience,lifestyle,cuisine of an area that should
> be preserved at all cost. I am a fan of regional cuisine,however when we
> loose the wonderful Creole Ladies and Mens that do their job so well,it is a
> sad loss indeed. This is not to denegrate in any way other regional
> cuisines,but to exault them. Love it all..if you will.
>
> Merciful end to this post!
>
> Hubert
> Opelika,AL
>

I hate "me too" posts, but ... Me too!

South Louisiana is the closest coast to Arkansas and has been our
favorite short vacation destination. Not NO, great as that city is, but
the towns south and west. New Years a year and a half ago we spent at
Grand Isle and the towns up the bayou. I wonder what's left of them? The
towns and the people and the food ... unique and precious. Worth
exalting. Love it all.

Pass the hot sauce.

Regards ... and stay out of the weather, Hubert,

Dave W.

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jmcquown wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> > "Tony P." wrote:
> >
> >> Perhaps if we weren't having our little misadventure in the Middle
> >> East
> >> and using National Guard troops to do the job we could airlift people
> >> north. But no.

> >
> > Airlift people? Why? I live about 1500 miles north of there and I
> > knew that it was headed there two days ago. That was more than enough
> > time for people to head for safety.
> >
> >> And from what I've been reading - this could also impact gasoline
> >> prices. Lots of refineries in that area.

> >
> > Yep. That will be the next excuse to gouge consumers. I sure am glad
> > that I bought a Honda last month. Despite a 20% increase in the cost
> > of gasoline, my weekly gas bill is less than half what it was with my
> > old van.

>
> As I previously stated, some folks will use any excuse to jump on the
> political band-wagon. It's not like hurricanes didn't exist before the
> current administration. I seriously doubt Tony P. remembers the "oil
> crisis" from the 1970's. We weathered that storm; we'll weather this one.
>
> Jill


Adversity only makes us stronger... those who were affected will emerge
stronger and in a better position.

Sheldon

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jmcquown wrote:
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> As I previously stated, some folks will use any excuse to jump on the
> political band-wagon. It's not like hurricanes didn't exist before the
> current administration. We weathered that storm; we'll weather this one.


Hey Jill, of course we'll weather this storm... but don't you find it
kinda strange that not one other country has offered so much as
condolences, let alone offered to lend a hand (I expect no money) but
utility crews, rescue teams, medics, even kitchen crews to fix
sammiches and tend the stew pots? I don't find that strange at all,
they all hate us. What I do find strange is how the US is ALWAYS there
to help with any country's disaster... I had anything to say I'd never
send so much as cent anywhere for any reason whatsoever... were any
other country had folks about to drown I'd offer to **** on them,
maybe.

I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.

Sheldon

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"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...

<snip>

> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.
>
> Sheldon


Stop sugar coating you feelings - tell us what you really think :-)

Dimitri


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Forget your med again, Sheldon ?

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Sheldon wrote:

> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.


Two observations:

1. Sheldon, it's time to take your medicine again.
2. I think we all know that Sheldon lacks the courage to ever say that kind
of thing IN PERSON to a Canadian, Mexican, or "European."

(And what's with lumping together everybody from Europe? Does Sheldon REALLY
think Danes and Greeks share a common culture? Well...I suppose he COULD be
that ignorant...Come to think of it, Sheldon probably thinks that Guatemala
is part of Mexico and that Canada owns Alaska and Greenland.)

Bob




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Sheldon wrote:

> Hey Jill, of course we'll weather this storm... but don't you find it
> kinda strange that not one other country has offered so much as
> condolences, let alone offered to lend a hand (I expect no money) but
> utility crews, rescue teams, medics, even kitchen crews to fix
> sammiches and tend the stew pots? I don't find that strange at all,
> they all hate us. What I do find strange is how the US is ALWAYS there
> to help with any country's disaster...



Yup...damn straight, Sheldon, THANK YOU, I was just thinking the same thing.
Take a gander at what the Krauts (of ALL people) are saying about the event,
they have the nerve to lecture us! :.


SPIEGEL ONLINE - August 30, 2005, 03:39 PM
URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...372179,00.html
"German Papers

Katrina Should be A Lesson To US on Global Warming

Seems like everything is President Bush's fault. One day after Katrina
hammered the Gulf Coast, German commentators are laying into the US for its
stubborn attitude to global warming and Kyoto.

Fun-loving New Orleans, now a disaster area.
Hurricane Katrina is big news for German commentators, whatever their ilk.
For some, the powerful storm which slammed the Gulf Coast on Monday, is a
symbol of the sort of environmental terrors awaiting the world thanks to
global warming and proof positive that America needs to quickly reverse its
policy of playing down climate change. For the more conservative, it is
simply another regrettable natural catastrophe.

Regardless of how one views it, Katrina has not only devastated parts of
Louisiana and Mississippi and killed dozens, it also has threatened the US
and its trading partners with economic instability. The Gulf Coast states
refine about 30 percent of America's oil supply and Katrina's damage is
threatening to cause already-high oil costs to skyrocket. The fun-loving
town of New Orleans, beloved for its moody, French-inspired bars, crooning
jazz riffs and free-for-all Mardi Gras spirit, has transformed into a watery
ghost town, with 80 percent of the city's 480,000 residents obeying the
mayor's call to evacuate. The pictures tell it all: frantic racing through
chest-deep water, flooded city streets and uprooted trees. The storm even
ripped off a chunk of the roof of the New Orleans Superdome, where close to
10,000 people had run to for cover.

The toughest commentary of the day comes from Germany's Environmental
Minister, Jürgen Trittin, a Green Party member, who takes space in the
Frankfurter Rundschau, a paper owned by the Social Democrats, to bash US
President George W. Bush's environmental laxity. He begins by likening the
photos and videos of the hurricane stricken areas to scenes from a Roland
Emmerich sci-fi film and insists that global warming and climate change are
making it ever more likely that storms and floods will plague America and
Europe. "There is only one possible route of action," he writes. "Greenhouse
gases have to be radically reduced and it has to happen worldwide. Until
now, the US has kept its eyes shut to this emergency. (Americans) make up a
mere 4 percent of the population, but are responsible for close to a quarter
of emissions." He adds that the average American is responsible for double
as much carbon dioxide as the average European. "The Bush government rejects
international climate protection goals by insisting that imposing them would
negatively impact the American economy. The American president is closing
his eyes to the economic and human costs his land and the world economy are
suffering under natural catastrophes like Katrina and because of neglected
environmental policies." As such, Trittin also calls for a reworking of the
Kyoto Protocol -- dubbing it the uncreative title of "Kyoto 2" -- and
insisting that the US be included.

The left-leaning Die Tageszeitung also delivers a punchy plea for more
attention to global warming, saying politicians should pay more attention to
Katrina's alarming images than to election polls and economic forecasts.
"Hurricane Katrina has delivered terrible photos. Experts are already
calling it the worst hurricane of all time. But this year's hurricane season
has only just begun. Flooded villages, mud slides, sandbags....Scientists
are quite calmly saying that we will see this kind of thing more often.
After all, this is what they have been forecasting for years -- climate
change, human-caused and irreversible. But a change of policy is not in the
cards. Politics is trapped between voters and industry lobbyists. And of
course, there is the killer argument: Protecting the environment impedes
economic growth." This is not how it should be, the paper opines. Indeed,
more "pictures from New Orleans should encourage us to follow science's
advice on climate protection."

The business daily Handelsblatt has a more pragmatic approach to viewing the
catastrophe. Instead of harping on the cause of hurricanes and other
disasters, it insists that the world should better help those in danger get
protection. "People will argue about the causes of climate change for a long
time to come," the paper writes. "But its effects are already reality. They
are called Katrina, or the flood catastrophes in southern Germany, Romania,
Switzerland and Austria.... It's not enough now to just call for measures
against climate change. Such policies need decades to take effect. But now
we must begin taking different kinds of measures, ones that better protect
people affected by extreme weather incidents." The best way to begin, says
the paper, is to identify areas of the globe most in danger. In Germany,
that includes areas around the Elbe and Donau rivers, while in the
Netherlands, much of the nation is under sea level. More needs to be done,
says the paper, to prevent building in potentially dangerous areas and to
create high water emergency policies. The world, too, needs to help nations
like Bangladesh, which doesn't have the means to reduce the risks its people
face alone. "All of this will cost time, a lot of money and the eradication
of old habits. But only in this way can people be protected and the
even-higher costs of post-catastrophe damages be reduced."

The Financial Times Deutschland refrains from any commentary about the human
costs of the hurricane and focuses on the economic impact it will have on
oil supplies. "For the already-strained global energy market, Katrina is a
small nightma The huge world-wide demand for oil has left producers and
workers pushing their limits of capacity. If production platforms and
refineries on the Gulf of Mexico have to shut down, the supply holes will
not be easy to fill." Even if the current projects of the economic impact of
Katrina are exaggerated, one thing is clear, the paper says. In the end, the
storm will have proven "the vulnerability of the oil-dependent world
economy."

The Süddeutsche Zeitung uses its feature page as a defacto editorial by
focusing on the hurricane as its theme of the day. Among its articles, it
cites a study by US hurricane expert Kerry Emanuel of the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology that shows a rising tendency for hurricanes that
exactly reflects the curve of greenhouse gases. German scientists from the
Max-Planck Institute hail the study as the first proof of a real link. "If
this man-made warming continues, we will have to expect stronger storms in
future" Emmanuel tells the paper.

The conservative Die Welt, naturally, has an altogether different take on
Katrina, insisting that despite the terrible images broadcast, we should not
get hysterical about the environmental implications of the hurricane or
start screaming for change. After all, it says, "hurricanes are a natural
phenomenon. They occurred long before humans could be affected by them.
Whether the frequency and intensity of these storms has truly increased in
recent years has not yet been proven with statistics." Whether humans have
aversely affected the Earth's climate or not, the paper says, one thing is
clear "we have modern technology to thank that Katrina was not able to do
more damage." Indeed, thanks to early warning systems, the people of New
Orleans were evacuated before the storm hit. "One hundred years ago, a
tropical storm as strong as Katarina would likely have caused many deaths,
because it would have hit people unawares." Now, says the paper, we should
be grateful technology allows us to save so many lives."


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Sheldon wrote:

> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.
>
> Sheldon
>


Thanks for removing all doubt about your bigotry, shelliebigotbabie.
Miss you drug check earlier?


jim
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Sheldon wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>>As I previously stated, some folks will use any excuse to jump on the
>>political band-wagon. It's not like hurricanes didn't exist before the
>>current administration. We weathered that storm; we'll weather this one.

>
>
> Hey Jill, of course we'll weather this storm... but don't you find it
> kinda strange that not one other country has offered so much as
> condolences, let alone offered to lend a hand (I expect no money) but
> utility crews, rescue teams, medics, even kitchen crews to fix
> sammiches and tend the stew pots? I don't find that strange at all,
> they all hate us. What I do find strange is how the US is ALWAYS there
> to help with any country's disaster... I had anything to say I'd never
> send so much as cent anywhere for any reason whatsoever... were any
> other country had folks about to drown I'd offer to **** on them,
> maybe.
>
> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.


I hope you don't speak for all Americans As a Canadian I take great
offense to your statement as I'm sure others do. Shame on you.


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Sheldon wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >>

> > As I previously stated, some folks will use any excuse to jump on the
> > political band-wagon. It's not like hurricanes didn't exist before the
> > current administration. We weathered that storm; we'll weather this one.

>
> Hey Jill, of course we'll weather this storm... but don't you find it
> kinda strange that not one other country has offered so much as
> condolences, let alone offered to lend a hand (I expect no money) but
> utility crews, rescue teams, medics, even kitchen crews to fix
> sammiches and tend the stew pots? I don't find that strange at all,
> they all hate us.


Does this surprise you?

>What I do find strange is how the US is ALWAYS there
> to help with any country's disaster... I had anything to say I'd never
> send so much as cent anywhere for any reason whatsoever... were any
> other country had folks about to drown I'd offer to **** on them,
> maybe.
>
> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.


What's your heritage, Sheldon? How how I suspect you are of European
descent as well...

-L.

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Sheldon wrote:
> Hey Jill, of course we'll weather this storm... but don't you find it
> kinda strange that not one other country has offered so much as
> condolences, let alone offered to lend a hand (I expect no money) but
> utility crews, rescue teams, medics, even kitchen crews to fix
> sammiches and tend the stew pots? I don't find that strange at all,
> they all hate us. What I do find strange is how the US is ALWAYS there
> to help with any country's disaster... I had anything to say I'd never
> send so much as cent anywhere for any reason whatsoever... were any
> other country had folks about to drown I'd offer to **** on them,
> maybe.
>


Total unadulterated bull shite in retrospect.

> I hate ALL of yoose filthy douche bags... I especially hate canadians,
> mexicans, and europeans... canadians are the worst garbage on the
> planet, bunch of friggin' takers/users, give nothing... PARASITES!
> Mexicans are lice/roaches, exterminate ALL of them. Europeans need
> drowning, ALL of them FILTHY-DIRTY *******s.
>
> Sheldon


Come down here and say that. My mother and fiance are Canadian, you
evil racist piglet.



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