I know; nothing, really, to do with each other. The
money in the wallet present was a subject here not
too long ago, I bought a wallet as a gift and the
saleswoman said, don't forget to put money in it
before you give it! Yes, thank you. Funny.

Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.

First time, 3 items at dinnertime, well, why wait on
line if you don't have to. Not too bad until it came
time to give me my change. $20 I put in for an even
bill for $4. $15 came out, then the thing kept
repeating, please remove your change, please remove
your change, please ... I guess it was only my imagination
that the disembodied voice was getting louder and
louder. Asked for help, she said, OH NO, not another
one jammed! Got me a dollar and away I skulked.

Today, it refused to scan the second item of two of
a kind. The helper guy couldn't scan them, either, so
it wasn't just my admitted ineptitude. All in all, not
bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
to help.

nancy

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> I know; nothing, really, to do with each other. The
> money in the wallet present was a subject here not
> too long ago, I bought a wallet as a gift and the
> saleswoman said, don't forget to put money in it
> before you give it! Yes, thank you. Funny.
>
> Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
> this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.
>
> First time, 3 items at dinnertime, well, why wait on
> line if you don't have to. Not too bad until it came
> time to give me my change. $20 I put in for an even
> bill for $4. $15 came out, then the thing kept
> repeating, please remove your change, please remove
> your change, please ... I guess it was only my imagination
> that the disembodied voice was getting louder and
> louder. Asked for help, she said, OH NO, not another
> one jammed! Got me a dollar and away I skulked.
>
> Today, it refused to scan the second item of two of
> a kind. The helper guy couldn't scan them, either, so
> it wasn't just my admitted ineptitude. All in all, not
> bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
> to help.
>
> nancy

I've used the self check at Home Depot and never had a problem. I tried
it at Albertsons the other day and the bottle of water I was trying to
buy did not have a bar code. What a pain. Ended up having to wait in a
regular check out line as the assistant at the self check was busy with
three other shoppers having problems.

marcella

Nancy Young wrote:
> I know; nothing, really, to do with each other. The
> money in the wallet present was a subject here not
> too long ago, I bought a wallet as a gift and the
> saleswoman said, don't forget to put money in it
> before you give it! Yes, thank you. Funny.
>
> Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
> this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.
>
> First time, 3 items at dinnertime, well, why wait on
> line if you don't have to. Not too bad until it came
> time to give me my change. $20 I put in for an even
> bill for $4. $15 came out, then the thing kept
> repeating, please remove your change, please remove
> your change, please ... I guess it was only my imagination
> that the disembodied voice was getting louder and
> louder. Asked for help, she said, OH NO, not another
> one jammed! Got me a dollar and away I skulked.
>
> Today, it refused to scan the second item of two of
> a kind. The helper guy couldn't scan them, either, so
> it wasn't just my admitted ineptitude. All in all, not
> bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
> to help.
>
> nancy
>
>


Its personal - the machine doesn't like you. ;->


jim

Marcella Peek wrote:
> In article >,
> "Nancy Young" > wrote:
>
> > I know; nothing, really, to do with each other. The
> > money in the wallet present was a subject here not
> > too long ago, I bought a wallet as a gift and the
> > saleswoman said, don't forget to put money in it
> > before you give it! Yes, thank you. Funny.
> >
> > Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
> > this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.
> >
> > First time, 3 items at dinnertime, well, why wait on
> > line if you don't have to. Not too bad until it came
> > time to give me my change. $20 I put in for an even
> > bill for $4. $15 came out, then the thing kept
> > repeating, please remove your change, please remove
> > your change, please ... I guess it was only my imagination
> > that the disembodied voice was getting louder and
> > louder. Asked for help, she said, OH NO, not another
> > one jammed! Got me a dollar and away I skulked.
> >
> > Today, it refused to scan the second item of two of
> > a kind. The helper guy couldn't scan them, either, so
> > it wasn't just my admitted ineptitude. All in all, not
> > bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
> > to help.
> >
> > nancy
>
> I've used the self check at Home Depot and never had a problem. I tried
> it at Albertsons the other day and the bottle of water I was trying to
> buy did not have a bar code. What a pain. Ended up having to wait in a
> regular check out line as the assistant at the self check was busy with
> three other shoppers having problems.
>
> marcella

Our supermarket ones work pretty well - but my rule is, if I have
something that has to be weighed or doesn't come with a bar code, I go
through a checker's line. It takes too long in the self-check lines
with one employee correcting problems at 4 stations.

N.

Dog3 > wrote in
1:

> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.

It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full of
groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them go to
another aisle, but the customer is always right.

Eric wrote:
> Dog3 > wrote in
> 1:
>
>> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
>> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
>> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
>> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
>> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
>> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
>> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
>> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.
>
> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart
> full of groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to
> make them go to another aisle, but the customer is always right.

Exactly. You run into this all the time, regardless of the type of checkout
lane. I've never once heard a checker say "sorry, you need to go over
there". Some people are simply discourteous and there is nothing you can do
about it unless management enforces the policy stated on the sign and backs
up the employee who attempts to redirect the offender.

Jill

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>
> Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
> this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.

> All in all, not
> bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
> to help.

Tried one once and had a problem. Won't ever use one again. They pay
people to do it for me so unless they give a discount, I'm not going to ever
self check out.

It is a scam like self-serve gas. There is NO savings in spite of what the
stations lead you to believe. They artificially increase the full service
price to make self serve look good. I know of a few stations that give full
service and are a penny or two less than the self serve across the street.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>
>> Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
>> this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.
>
>> All in all, not
>> bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
>> to help.
>
> Tried one once and had a problem. Won't ever use one again. They pay
> people to do it for me so unless they give a discount, I'm not going to
> ever self check out.
>
> It is a scam like self-serve gas. There is NO savings in spite of what
> the stations lead you to believe. They artificially increase the full
> service price to make self serve look good. I know of a few stations that
> give full service and are a penny or two less than the self serve across
> the street.

Ed, you've said exactly what I've said in the past. Agreed.

nancy

"Eric" > wrote in message
...
> Dog3 > wrote in
> 1:
>
>> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
>> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
>> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
>> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
>> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
>> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
>> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
>> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.
>
> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full of
> groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them go to
> another aisle, but the customer is always right.

No, the customer is not always right. A place where we've gone for
breakfast that we all like and one full-of-herself wait-person who always
waits on us, said to my question about a certain food, that it had always
been done that way as long as she was there (and she was raised in the
restaurant). I always order the same breakfast (and the most expensive, I
might add) and it has always come out one particular way. After some
chit-chat, I said, "But the customer is always right." She said, "Not here
they're not." and turned on her heel and walked away. The next day my
f-i-l wanted to go back, but I said that there wasn't time. But I won't go
back; "I've cut off my nose to spite my face" and "burnt my bridges." If I
had to look at her face when she brought me my beloved breakfast, I would
choke on it. She won the argument, didn't have to please me, and got her
20%+ tip.
Dee Dee

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>>
>> Anyway, I said I wouldn't do it, but I did it twice
>> this week. Used self checkout at the grocery store.
>
>> All in all, not
>> bad, assuming they keep someone right there, handy
>> to help.
>
> Tried one once and had a problem. Won't ever use one again. They pay
> people to do it for me so unless they give a discount, I'm not going to
> ever self check out.
>
> It is a scam like self-serve gas. There is NO savings in spite of what
> the stations lead you to believe. They artificially increase the full
> service price to make self serve look good. I know of a few stations that
> give full service and are a penny or two less than the self serve across
> the street.
Some state we go thru (perhaps it's New Jersey?) you don't have a choice of
self-service. It is all full-service, but they don't wash your windows or
check your oil -- like they did in the good ole' days -- tee hee.
Dee Dee

On Thu 01 Sep 2005 10:08:36p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "Eric" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Dog3 > wrote in
>> 1:
>>
>>> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
>>> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
>>> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
>>> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
>>> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
>>> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
>>> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
>>> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.
>>
>> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full
>> of groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them
>> go to another aisle, but the customer is always right.
>
> No, the customer is not always right. A place where we've gone for
> breakfast that we all like and one full-of-herself wait-person who
> always waits on us, said to my question about a certain food, that it
> had always been done that way as long as she was there (and she was
> raised in the restaurant). I always order the same breakfast (and the
> most expensive, I might add) and it has always come out one particular
> way. After some chit-chat, I said, "But the customer is always right."
> She said, "Not here they're not." and turned on her heel and walked
> away. The next day my f-i-l wanted to go back, but I said that there
> wasn't time. But I won't go back; "I've cut off my nose to spite my
> face" and "burnt my bridges." If I had to look at her face when she
> brought me my beloved breakfast, I would choke on it. She won the
> argument, didn't have to please me, and got her 20%+ tip.
> Dee Dee

She wouldn't have gotten that tip from me.

Having said that, however, was there something different about your
breakfast that particular time? What precipitated the chit-chat and your
and her statements about the customer always being right?

Is she the only waitress there? If she isn't, I'd go back and be damned if
I sat at one of her tables.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

Try that here in NYC and the checker will tell you where to go, first
literally and, if necessary, figuratively. And I mean in nice upscale
markets like Gristede's. Management backs them up and sometimes the other
customers applaud.

Mel

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Eric wrote:
> > Dog3 > wrote in
> > 1:
> >
> >> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
> >> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
> >> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
> >> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
> >> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
> >> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
> >> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
> >> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.
> >
> > It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart
> > full of groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to
> > make them go to another aisle, but the customer is always right.
>
> Exactly. You run into this all the time, regardless of the type of
checkout
> lane. I've never once heard a checker say "sorry, you need to go over
> there". Some people are simply discourteous and there is nothing you can
do
> about it unless management enforces the policy stated on the sign and
backs
> up the employee who attempts to redirect the offender.
>
> Jill
>
>

"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu 01 Sep 2005 10:08:36p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "Eric" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Dog3 > wrote in
>>> 1:
>>>
>>>> I have only encountered 1 continuous problem at the self checkout.
>>>> Other shoppers. Where I shop there are 4 registers at the self
>>>> checkout. All four of them clearly state, in huge red letters, "20
>>>> items or less." Lately I've run across people using it with enormous
>>>> mounds of groceries in their carts with well over the 20 item limit.
>>>> This really irritates the snot out of me. I just chalk it up to
>>>> illiteracy and will verbalize that thought if the opportunity arises.
>>>> The shoppers obviously can not read or count.
>>>
>>> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full
>>> of groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them
>>> go to another aisle, but the customer is always right.
>>
>> No, the customer is not always right. A place where we've gone for
>> breakfast that we all like and one full-of-herself wait-person who
>> always waits on us, said to my question about a certain food, that it
>> had always been done that way as long as she was there (and she was
>> raised in the restaurant). I always order the same breakfast (and the
>> most expensive, I might add) and it has always come out one particular
>> way. After some chit-chat, I said, "But the customer is always right."
>> She said, "Not here they're not." and turned on her heel and walked
>> away. The next day my f-i-l wanted to go back, but I said that there
>> wasn't time. But I won't go back; "I've cut off my nose to spite my
>> face" and "burnt my bridges." If I had to look at her face when she
>> brought me my beloved breakfast, I would choke on it. She won the
>> argument, didn't have to please me, and got her 20%+ tip.
>> Dee Dee
>
> She wouldn't have gotten that tip from me.
>
> Having said that, however, was there something different about your
> breakfast that particular time? What precipitated the chit-chat and your
> and her statements about the customer always being right?
>
> Is she the only waitress there? If she isn't, I'd go back and be damned
> if
> I sat at one of her tables.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright *¿*

My DH and f-i-l are notoriously big tippers, trying to out-do each other.
They make me sick! I tip 15% always and sometimes 20%, sometimes 25% even.
I thought to myself, if the men think I'm mad or upset, then they'll tip
more to compensate her for putting up with me. You know -- don't make
waves.

No, there was nothing even important about the way the meal was served
enough to be at an impasse. The meal I always order includes a huge piece
of french fried cinamon toast and it covers in diameter almost a whole
plate, which they always serve separately for syrup. I can tell you, it is
deliciously different than any other restaurant. This day they piled the
eggs and bacon on top of the toast on one plate, and the potatoes were
served in a smallish separate dish vs. a larger portion of potatoes on the
dish of eggs, bacon and potatoes. I didn't care about amount the potatoes.
All this started in a friendly way (or so I thought) chit-chat about the
toast being on a separate plate, but she turned surly quickly in a few
words, when she said it had never been done any other way. I knew she was
really p--sed she dropped the plate down on the table for my toast.

She is the only waitress in there everytime we've been there. It is a small
room that does a decent amount of business and has been there for years;
it's not open after late afternoon. I do believe she must be the owners'
daughter or the owner's wife, or something on that order. We usually try to
sit toward the back corner of the room because she is a presence and usually
friendly in a loud sort of way with customers that we don't care to have our
conversations overruled by. But it is no great loss, but an example of
where she actually said that the customer is not always right, with no
concern. My f-i-l sort of guffawed about it later. But DH didn't say a
word about it. I know he had his own thoughts. His usual comment over this
type of service, is 'what difference does it make? ' But no one ever gives
him any guff, he's too damned big.

Thanks for answering.
Sometimes some service still keeps on smarting.
Dee Dee

On Thu 01 Sep 2005 11:35:17p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Thanks for answering.
> Sometimes some service still keeps on smarting.
> Dee Dee

I've snipped everything, Dee, because I'm continually being "warned" about
snipping.

I can tell you, under the circumstances of she being the only waitress, that
I'd sure as hell never go back, expect perhaps to voice my indignation. What
a bitch!


--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four,
unless there are three other people.

>>
>> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full of
>> groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them go to
>> another aisle, but the customer is always right.

Some store will enforce the policy. They do when I'm in line as I'll create
enough noise to get the manager and another line opened if need be. Yeah, I
can be an asshole when required.

"Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote

>>> It's either that or they go into the express lane with their cart full
>>> of
>>> groceries. I've always said the checker should be able to make them go
>>> to
>>> another aisle, but the customer is always right.
>
> Some store will enforce the policy. They do when I'm in line as I'll
> create enough noise to get the manager and another line opened if need be.
> Yeah, I can be an asshole when required.

I was once told to leave the line, I had *no* idea I was in the wrong line.
Not offended at all, just embarrassed that people would think of me that
I did that on purpose. I was exhausted and in an unfamiliar store and I
just plain made a mistake.

Heh, I'd rather be told than go about my merry way with people all
around cursing me under their breath. Stores should enforce the
policy. (sound of can of worms opening) I don't mean having the 12 item
police dragging a 13 item person out of line.

nancy

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> It is a scam like self-serve gas. There is NO savings in spite of what the
> stations lead you to believe. They artificially increase the full service
> price to make self serve look good. I know of a few stations that give full
> service and are a penny or two less than the self serve across the street.

I would much rather pump my own gas than have to wait for some
nincompoop to come and do it and then have him leak gas all down the
side of my vehicle.

Here in OR we *can't* pump our own.

-L.

"-L." > wrote in message
> I would much rather pump my own gas than have to wait for some
> nincompoop to come and do it and then have him leak gas all down the
> side of my vehicle.
>
> Here in OR we *can't* pump our own.

Perhaps in OR, but here it CT it can be well below zero and windy. I'd
rather wait for the nincompoop.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 03:04:16 -0400, Dee Randall wrote:

>
> "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu 01 Sep 2005 11:35:17p, Dee Randall wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> Thanks for answering.
> >> Sometimes some service still keeps on smarting.
> >> Dee Dee
> >
> > I've snipped everything, Dee, because I'm continually being "warned" about
> > snipping.
> >
> > I can tell you, under the circumstances of she being the only waitress,
> > that
> > I'd sure as hell never go back, expect perhaps to voice my indignation.
> > What
> > a bitch!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Wayne Boatwright *¿*
>
> LOL - my sentiments exactly -- whatta bitch!
> Dee Dee
>
I missed the crux of this... you wanted a separate plate for the
french toast and she got annoyed?