If you're interested: http://www.416westgallery.com/

If you're in the area, drop by. They look better in person.


modom

Michael,
I should have known you are an artist. Your imaginative and
enthusiastic treatment and combination of foods has always been
original. I have missed you on RFC recently. (I even posted a
question, recently, about your whereabouts).
Nancree

On 3 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0700, "nancree" > wrote:

>Michael,
>I should have known you are an artist. Your imaginative and
>enthusiastic treatment and combination of foods has always been
>original. I have missed you on RFC recently. (I even posted a
>question, recently, about your whereabouts).
>Nancree

I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
painting hand. Vincent van Gogh on the other hand made over 200
paintings in a little over 400 days while he was in Arles. I have no
idea how he did it. But by the time he was my age not only had he
produced scores of masterpieces, but also he was dead.


modom

Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
-- Oscar Wilde

modom wrote:
> On 3 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0700, "nancree" > wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> I should have known you are an artist. Your imaginative and
>> enthusiastic treatment and combination of foods has always been
>> original. I have missed you on RFC recently. (I even posted a
>> question, recently, about your whereabouts).
>> Nancree
>
> I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
> for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
> painting hand. Vincent van Gogh on the other hand made over 200
> paintings in a little over 400 days while he was in Arles. I have no
> idea how he did it. But by the time he was my age not only had he
> produced scores of masterpieces, but also he was dead.
>
>
> modom
>
> Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
> -- Oscar Wilde

Very nice, Micheal! Congratulations on your gallery showing.

Considering my LLL (long lost love) is a professional artist (oils but he
sometimes dabbles in acrylics), 200 paintings seems a bit um... well let's
just say LLL works on 4 or 5 canvasses at a time, as the mood strikes him.
It could take him months to complete one painting, or a day, just depends on
what hits him. I've seen him at work. It's fascinating. Since I have no
talent for drawing, I'm floored by this. Here's an example of a painting I
saw him start out in 2004 then continue to make changes to:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...03069013izMMUY

Here is how it wound up:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...32700989nGjEvZ

Oh, and don't be afraid to go for a larger scale and/or up the price. He
told me for years he was so afraid of going with larger sized canvas and
afraid of overcharging. This particular piece was 6X6ish and sold for $10K


He also avoids galleries unless they are willing to cut the profit from
sales down from 50% to 30% and do NOT let them try to tell you how to price
your work. Only you can decide what is right and there is no point in them
making a buck when you aren't. Exposure is one thing; being ripped off by a
gallery is another.

OB Food (sorta): We're going back to Davenport for a show mid-September.
When we were there last year we delivered a large painting to a patrons
house. The kitchen was fantastic. They had a built-in wood-burning pizza
oven and small refrigerator strictly for chilling wine. While we figured
out where to hang the painting in the living room, they gave us wine to
drink and took us on a tour of the house, which was built for their
extremely eclectic artwork. Hope to see them again at the show this month!

Jill

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:16:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>modom wrote:
>> On 3 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0700, "nancree" > wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>> I should have known you are an artist. Your imaginative and
>>> enthusiastic treatment and combination of foods has always been
>>> original. I have missed you on RFC recently. (I even posted a
>>> question, recently, about your whereabouts).
>>> Nancree
>>
>> I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
>> for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
>> painting hand. Vincent van Gogh on the other hand made over 200
>> paintings in a little over 400 days while he was in Arles. I have no
>> idea how he did it. But by the time he was my age not only had he
>> produced scores of masterpieces, but also he was dead.
>>

>
>Very nice, Micheal! Congratulations on your gallery showing.
>
Thanks.

[snip]

>Oh, and don't be afraid to go for a larger scale and/or up the price. He
>told me for years he was so afraid of going with larger sized canvas and
>afraid of overcharging. This particular piece was 6X6ish and sold for $10K
>

Jill, I've been an artist for the better part of three decades. I
hold an MFA in painting. I've made paintings that were 10 feet across
and paintings that are only a few inches. I've taught painting,
drawing, art history, etc. at four colleges and univeristies.
Currently I'm on the graduate faculty of a university art department.
I've published reviews and essays on art in several national
periodicals. Although I'm certain that you mean well, your advice is
unneeded.
>
>He also avoids galleries unless they are willing to cut the profit from
>sales down from 50% to 30% and do NOT let them try to tell you how to price
>your work. Only you can decide what is right and there is no point in them
>making a buck when you aren't. Exposure is one thing; being ripped off by a
>gallery is another.

Again, I've been around the block a time or two. The gallerists I'm
dealing with are extraordinarily fair and kind. In fact, they're
organizing a food/water/supplies haul to Baton Rouge next week. In no
way are they ripping me off, and their exhibition space is beautiful.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but the arc of my career is
not consistent with your estimation of it.

modom

Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
-- Oscar Wilde

"modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:16:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>modom wrote:
>>> On 3 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0700, "nancree" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>> I should have known you are an artist. Your imaginative and
>>>> enthusiastic treatment and combination of foods has always been
>>>> original. I have missed you on RFC recently. (I even posted a
>>>> question, recently, about your whereabouts).
>>>> Nancree
>>>
>>> I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
>>> for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
>>> painting hand. Vincent van Gogh on the other hand made over 200
>>> paintings in a little over 400 days while he was in Arles. I have no
>>> idea how he did it. But by the time he was my age not only had he
>>> produced scores of masterpieces, but also he was dead.
>>>
>
>>
>>Very nice, Micheal! Congratulations on your gallery showing.
>>
> Thanks.
>
> [snip]
>
>>Oh, and don't be afraid to go for a larger scale and/or up the price. He
>>told me for years he was so afraid of going with larger sized canvas and
>>afraid of overcharging. This particular piece was 6X6ish and sold for
>>$10K
>>
>
> Jill, I've been an artist for the better part of three decades. I
> hold an MFA in painting. I've made paintings that were 10 feet across
> and paintings that are only a few inches. I've taught painting,
> drawing, art history, etc. at four colleges and univeristies.
> Currently I'm on the graduate faculty of a university art department.
> I've published reviews and essays on art in several national
> periodicals. Although I'm certain that you mean well, your advice is
> unneeded.
>>
>>He also avoids galleries unless they are willing to cut the profit from
>>sales down from 50% to 30% and do NOT let them try to tell you how to
>>price
>>your work. Only you can decide what is right and there is no point in
>>them
>>making a buck when you aren't. Exposure is one thing; being ripped off by
>>a
>>gallery is another.
>
> Again, I've been around the block a time or two. The gallerists I'm
> dealing with are extraordinarily fair and kind. In fact, they're
> organizing a food/water/supplies haul to Baton Rouge next week. In no
> way are they ripping me off, and their exhibition space is beautiful.
>
> I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but the arc of my career is
> not consistent with your estimation of it.
>
> modom

I would like to see your paintings. I Am a painter too and I like van Gogh.
Have you got a web page?
Cheers
Pandora
>
> Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
> -- Oscar Wilde

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:18:43 +0200, "Pandora" >
wrote:

>I would like to see your paintings. I Am a painter too and I like van Gogh.
>Have you got a web page?
>Cheers
>Pandora
>>
My work is abstract and doesn't look at all like his. My Web page is
out of date regarding my current paintings. There are jpegs of some
of my recent work at the gallery's Web page:
http://www.416westgallery.com/

OBFood: Chicken thighs on the grill for dinner tonight.


modom

"Pandora" > wrote in message
...
>
> "modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio
> ...
> > On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:16:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>modom wrote:
> >>> On 3 Sep 2005 14:10:06 -0700, "nancree" > wrote:
>
> I would like to see your paintings. I Am a painter too and I like van
Gogh.
> Have you got a web page?
> Cheers
> Pandora
> >
> > Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
> > -- Oscar Wilde
>
>

I would like to see your stuff as well, Michael. If you don't want to
publicly list your website, you may e-mail me or send me pix of your
paintings.

kili

"modom" > wrote

> My work is abstract and doesn't look at all like his. My Web page is
> out of date regarding my current paintings. There are jpegs of some
> of my recent work at the gallery's Web page:
> http://www.416westgallery.com/

Michael, I really loved your work, how talented.

nancy

modom wrote:

> If you're interested: http://www.416westgallery.com/
>
> If you're in the area, drop by. They look better in person.
>
>
> modom

I wish I were in the area.... I'd love to see them in person.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:20:03 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote:

>
>"modom" > wrote
>
>> My work is abstract and doesn't look at all like his. My Web page is
>> out of date regarding my current paintings. There are jpegs of some
>> of my recent work at the gallery's Web page:
>> http://www.416westgallery.com/
>
>Michael, I really loved your work, how talented.
>
>nancy
>
Thanks, Nancy. Sometimes things click in the studio. I had a fairly
productive summer this time around.

OBFood: I stuffed fresh herbs and lemon slices under the skin of
chicken thighs tonight. Splashed them with dark soy sauce. Grilled
them till all the fat was rendered. I served them with a
jalapeno/garlic/lemon/cilantro yogurt sauce. They were quite good.


modom

Only superficial people don't judge by appearances.
-- Oscar Wilde

modom wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:16:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
> wrote:
>
>>> I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
>>> for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
>>> painting hand.
>>
Congratulations on your callus. Obviously you don't do this for a living,
30 years and a degree in painting (? art, perhaps) notwithstanding. My LLL
has been a professional artist all his adult life (40+ years as an artist
and yes, he has a degree in art, too). If he got a callus from doing 20
paintings I'd have to laugh, having seen him work. The man doesn't smell of
aftershave, he smells of gesso and oil paint. The "arc of your career" is
you apparently don't earn a living as a professional artist. Not that there
is anything wrong with that, but um. LLL paints on anything from paper to
wood and both large and small canvasses. He's got repeat patrons all over
the place. When we were in Kansas last June for the Prairie Village show we
were invited to dinner by a couple who own *13* of his paintings. He also
had an exclusive showing at a gallery there, but Bennie (the owner) is a bit
of a temperamental Brit who panicked when John pulled some of his work after
a month. A month was all they'd agreed upon but Bennie thought maybe he'd
let things slide. Bennie was letting things slide by not sending him the
money for his sales.

Last year in Minneapolis at the Stone Arch Festival we were invited to
dinner by - guess what? another repeat patron. In Davenport, where we will
be in a week and a few days for Riverssance in Lindsay Park, again, repeat
patrons. He's the featured artist this year.

Do you stretch your own canvas? Sorry if you didn't appreciate my
suggestions (such as they were). I'm actually happy for your show and glad
you like the gallery. Nice of them to be trucking supplies to Baton Rouge,
too. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are looking out for your best
interests. It's always the bottom line in this world, you know.

Jill

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 21:07:59 -0500, "jmcquown" >
wrote:

>modom wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 13:16:42 -0500, "jmcquown" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I was painting. I made twenty paintings this summer, which is a lot
>>>> for me. I painted so much that I actually have a callus on my
>>>> painting hand.
>>>
>Congratulations on your callus.

Actually that was a bit of a joke, though I didn't expect anyone to
get it. I was laying down the paint with a printmaker's brayer. It's
a kind of rubber roller that I had to press quite hard on to get the
coverage I wanted in many instances. The result was a callus after
twenty paintings. At my opening yesterday, a sculptor friend scoffed
at me when I showed him the callus. His hands, of course, are hard
and tough from the physical labor of his profession. One ordinarily
doesn't get tough hands from painting. Or even a single callus.

>Obviously you don't do this for a living,
>30 years and a degree in painting (? art, perhaps) notwithstanding.

Yes I do. At least the IRS hasn't objected to my declaring "artist"
on my tax returns yet. However, you are right that the majority of my
income comes from teaching. (The IRS knows this, by the way) And I
have a terminal degree in art with a concentration in painting. There
is no PhD in painting, the MFA is the top rung of the ladder.

>My LLL
>has been a professional artist all his adult life (40+ years as an artist
>and yes, he has a degree in art, too). If he got a callus from doing 20
>paintings I'd have to laugh, having seen him work. The man doesn't smell of
>aftershave, he smells of gesso and oil paint.

I get your drift. And I hold no animus towards him, though I find it
odd that we've somehow landed in a competition. It was never my
intention to compete, only to let you know that your advice was
somewhat elementary when directed towards a man with my experience.
It was rather like telling a software engineer when to click the
mouse.

>The "arc of your career" is
>you apparently don't earn a living as a professional artist. Not that there
>is anything wrong with that, but um.

A Seinfeld moment! Art is my profession, Jill.

>LLL paints on anything from paper to
>wood and both large and small canvasses. He's got repeat patrons all over
>the place. When we were in Kansas last June for the Prairie Village show we
>were invited to dinner by a couple who own *13* of his paintings. He also
>had an exclusive showing at a gallery there, but Bennie (the owner) is a bit
>of a temperamental Brit who panicked when John pulled some of his work after
>a month. A month was all they'd agreed upon but Bennie thought maybe he'd
>let things slide. Bennie was letting things slide by not sending him the
>money for his sales.
>
>Last year in Minneapolis at the Stone Arch Festival we were invited to
>dinner by - guess what? another repeat patron. In Davenport, where we will
>be in a week and a few days for Riverssance in Lindsay Park, again, repeat
>patrons. He's the featured artist this year.
>
These things are not to be scoffed at. Painting for a living is often
a hard row to hoe. I certainly do not dismiss his achievements.

>Do you stretch your own canvas?

Jill, I teach people how to stretch canvasses. How to build
stretchers using table saws, mitre saws, corner clamps, and so on. How
to fold the corners of the canvas and how tight to pull the fabric
before it is gessoed. It's my job. Trust me: I'm an artist. I know
how to do this stuff. During the rush to finish my last five
paintings before my term began, I hired another artist to make some
stretchers for me, but I stretched the paintings myself. For
technical reasons I had to paint them unstretched, but that's of
interest only to me, probably.

>Sorry if you didn't appreciate my
>suggestions (such as they were). I'm actually happy for your show and glad
>you like the gallery. Nice of them to be trucking supplies to Baton Rouge,
>too. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are looking out for your best
>interests. It's always the bottom line in this world, you know.
>
It's just that your advice was too elementary for my situation. I
have a contract with the the gallerists about which I am satisfied.
As I said (and you deleted) I've been around the block a time or two.

OBFood: The last chicken thigh will be my bedtime snack. Yum.


modom

"modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
> On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:18:43 +0200, "Pandora" >
> wrote:
>
>>I would like to see your paintings. I Am a painter too and I like van
>>Gogh.
>>Have you got a web page?
>>Cheers
>>Pandora
>>>
> My work is abstract and doesn't look at all like his. My Web page is
> out of date regarding my current paintings. There are jpegs of some
> of my recent work at the gallery's Web page:
> http://www.416westgallery.com/
>
I lile the coupling of colors. Comliments, modom!
Cheers
Pandora

> OBFood: Chicken thighs on the grill for dinner tonight.
>
>
> modom