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Foods that aren't as good as they used to be
What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be?
Here's the ones I know. 1. Salmon. They have farm raised salmon which is inferior to wild-caught salmon because the farm salmon lacks omega 3 fatty acids, which are important for many human physiological functions, including the creation of more serotonin, which helps fight depression. 2. Coffee. I heard that the average coffee is lower quality than it used to be, because at some time, maybe in the 70's, there was a coffee shortage, which resulted in lower coffee quality. And ever since then, Americans have become accustomed to drinking lower quality coffee. (However, I'm sure high quality coffee is still available if you look for it) 3. Meat - Americans used to eat a lot of wild meat 100 or more years ago. Once again, it had omega 3 fatty acids, which farm raised meats lack. (By the way, I take fish oil pills which have the omega 3 acids). |
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Bob wrote:
> Chicken: ALL chicken used to be free-range. And they were slaughtered > older, so they had more flavor. Maybe I am getting better at cooking chicken, I find it pretty tasty, but have to admit that the free range chickens I have had have been pretty good. > Eggs: Fewer people keep chickens nowadays, so fewer people have access to > fresh eggs from chickens with a "normal" diet. We get free range chickens locally. I do prefer them to the supermarket eggs. > Apples: Many strains have just been ruined. I was never a big fan of apples, but I do like a nice apple pie and find it hard to get really good cooking apples, and I live in an apple growing area. > Corn: It doesn't taste like CORN anymore. Personally, I prefer the newer varieties of corn. > Pork: Leaner pigs mean less taste. I used to love roast pork. I rarely buy it anymore because it has been so disappointing. |
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Mi e' parso che Dave Smith abbia scritto:
>> Pork: Leaner pigs mean less taste. > I used to love roast pork. I rarely buy it anymore > because it has been so disappointing. Quoted! I have been in Bayern (south germany) and I found some wonderful pork, and I realized I was going to forget how *real* pork is. I recently discovered that a very good pork butcher, serving some very famous restaurants in the north of Italy, works in a town about 60Km from mine: and I'm gonna give it a try ASAP  BTW - Are there readers of the London Times, here on RFC? I know a butcher in Cremona (near Milan), Franco Cazzamali, who's now being celebrated by some Times' journalists who tried his meat in London. He works with Fassona, the best cows in Piedmont, and has raised a consortium between butchers and breeders in the eighties, known as "La Granda". He also serves some famous restaurants, including all of the three italian restaurants with 3 michelin stars. I tried out his meat and still have to recover from the (positive) shock: a good pair of steps over any other meat I ever had, any cut I tried, be it a 4 inches tall 3.5 pound T-bone (with central part of the bone removed due to anti-BSE laws), be it a cut from the front quarter or a pound of tripe. Magnificent. -- Vilco Think Pink , Drink Rose' |
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Bob wrote:
> wrote: > > >>1. Salmon. They have farm raised salmon which is inferior to >>wild-caught salmon because the farm salmon lacks omega 3 fatty acids, >>which are important for many human physiological functions, including >>the creation of more serotonin, which helps fight depression. >> >>2. Coffee. I heard that the average coffee is lower quality than it >>used to be, because at some time, maybe in the 70's, there was a coffee >>shortage, which resulted in lower coffee quality. And ever since then, >>Americans have become accustomed to drinking lower quality coffee. >>(However, I'm sure high quality coffee is still available if you look >>for it) >> >>3. Meat - Americans used to eat a lot of wild meat 100 or more years >>ago. Once again, it had omega 3 fatty acids, which farm raised meats >>lack. (By the way, I take fish oil pills which have the omega 3 acids). > > > > Chicken: ALL chicken used to be free-range. And they were slaughtered > older, so they had more flavor. > > Eggs: Fewer people keep chickens nowadays, so fewer people have access to > fresh eggs from chickens with a "normal" diet. I can still get free-range chickens and fresh eggs but the price is slightly higher. Well the eggs are actually cheaper but the whole chickens are slightly higer in price. > > Apples: Many strains have just been ruined. > We live close to orchards. For years, DH preferred Delicious apples. Now he won't eat them! Like the thread of not so long ago, the Delicious apples have been ruined. I think Granny Smiths are nowhere as to what they used to be. > Corn: It doesn't taste like CORN anymore. I'd love to take that dang peaches and cream corn and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine! It's all we can get here and it doesn't freeze worth a crap compared to the old fashioned yellow corn. Forget making corn relish with it either as the light kernels look odd and the flavour isn't there. It's not space effective for small home gardeners to grow corn but I swear next year I'm going to put in another raised and protected bed just for yellow corn! > > Pork: Leaner pigs mean less taste. I haven't noticed a difference in pork but then we buy it through a farmer. Where I've noticed a difference is in the bacon  > > > Bob > > |
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_.-In rec.food.cooking, Bob wrote the following -._
> Corn: It doesn't taste like CORN anymore. Corn chips. We should all get together and kill the guy who thought that white corn chips that taste like flour was a good idea. It is sad that when I get the craving for corn chips that I have to go out of my way to find ones made of yellow corn and that most of the time Fritos (salt licks) are the only national brand of yellow corn chips still made. -- .-')) fauxascii.com ('-. | It's a damn poor mind that ' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to ((,,_;'.;' UIN=66618055 ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word. ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._)) | - Andrew Jackson |
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"Faux_Pseudo" > wrote in message news:GGpTe.9706$dm.4800@lakeread03... > _.-In rec.food.cooking, Bob wrote the following -._ > > Corn: It doesn't taste like CORN anymore. > > Corn chips. We should all get together and kill the guy who thought > that white corn chips that taste like flour was a good idea. It is > sad that when I get the craving for corn chips that I have to go out > of my way to find ones made of yellow corn and that most of the time > Fritos (salt licks) are the only national brand of yellow corn chips > still made. Another reason to live here in the West, I guess - we seem to have no shortage at all of good (although local, certainly!) brands of yellow-corn tortilla chips, none of which are anywhere near as salty as Fritos. Bob M. |
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On Wed 07 Sep 2005 11:21:58a, Bob Myers wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > "Faux_Pseudo" > wrote in message > news:GGpTe.9706$dm.4800@lakeread03... >> _.-In rec.food.cooking, Bob wrote the following -._ >> > Corn: It doesn't taste like CORN anymore. >> >> Corn chips. We should all get together and kill the guy who thought >> that white corn chips that taste like flour was a good idea. It is >> sad that when I get the craving for corn chips that I have to go out >> of my way to find ones made of yellow corn and that most of the time >> Fritos (salt licks) are the only national brand of yellow corn chips >> still made. > > Another reason to live here in the West, I guess - we > seem to have no shortage at all of good (although > local, certainly!) brands of yellow-corn tortilla chips, > none of which are anywhere near as salty as Fritos. > > Bob M. Not sure where you live in the West, Bob, but here in the Phoenix area some of our supermarkets have fresh made tortilla chips most of the day. They're excellent. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message ... > > Another reason to live here in the West, I guess - we > > seem to have no shortage at all of good (although > > local, certainly!) brands of yellow-corn tortilla chips, > > none of which are anywhere near as salty as Fritos. > > > > Bob M. > > Not sure where you live in the West, Bob, but here in the Phoenix area some > of our supermarkets have fresh made tortilla chips most of the day. > They're excellent. Same here (northern Colorado); picking up fresh-made corn or flour tortillas from local, family-run shops is a big plus, too! I tried once to get ingredients for a Tex-Mex meal I was TRYING to make for some friends I was staying with on the East Coast (Boston area). Pitiful....:-) Bob M. |
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Bob Myers wrote:
> > > Another reason to live here in the West, I guess - we > seem to have no shortage at all of good (although > local, certainly!) brands of yellow-corn tortilla chips, > none of which are anywhere near as salty as Fritos. Another food that doesn't taste as good as it used to is the Canadian version of Grape Nuts. I used to love that cereal but then it went downhill. A good friend of mine loves Grape Nuts and, according to him, the Canadian recipe was changed. He makes a few trips into NY state each year and stocks up on Grape Nuts. I made a few cross border shopping trips and added that to my list, along with blue cheese and Franks Hot Sauce. |
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> wrote in message oups.com... > What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? > Here's the ones I know. > > 1. Salmon. They have farm raised salmon which is inferior to > wild-caught salmon because the farm salmon lacks omega 3 fatty acids, > which are important for many human physiological functions, including > the creation of more serotonin, which helps fight depression. > > 2. Coffee. I heard that the average coffee is lower quality than it > used to be, because at some time, maybe in the 70's, there was a coffee > shortage, which resulted in lower coffee quality. And ever since then, > Americans have become accustomed to drinking lower quality coffee. > (However, I'm sure high quality coffee is still available if you look > for it) > > 3. Meat - Americans used to eat a lot of wild meat 100 or more years > ago. Once again, it had omega 3 fatty acids, which farm raised meats > lack. (By the way, I take fish oil pills which have the omega 3 acids). > When you're 70? Just about every gol' danged thing you can think of! Dee Dee |
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Dave Smith wrote: > wrote: > > > What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? > > Here's the ones I know. > > Green Beans. I used to like green beans. We grew them in our back yard and > they were great. My mother would freeze the excess and we had enough frozen > green beans to get us through the winter, and they were good even after > freezing. We buy beans from local vegetable stands in season, but even > those are not as good as the beans I remember from years gone by. And the > beans in the grocery store... forget it... they are crap. Huh? Flash frozen green beans are readily available, far better than any you can freeze at home. And you can still grow your own for freshly picked fresh. Even as few as fifty years ago produce was mostly old, poor quality, and of course non-existant except for what was in season very locally, so availability was very limited. Fifty years ago produce was purchased from a stand alone green grocer, all you could buy was only what was produced within fifty miles tops, it was costly because most folk had their own gardens and swaped with neighbors, so green grocer produce sat around and withered, mostly it wasn't even iced, and refrigerators were unheard of, they cost too much for such a small business. During winter months about all you could buy were storage root vegetables and some very sad soup greens. Today's stupidmarket produce is better in every way than it's ever been. In fact all food is better today, those who bitch are those who make stupid choices... there's a huge difference between unavailability and not willing to pay the price. These days most everything is available all year but if you want out of season produce that's air freighted in from all corners of the planet you very often gotta pay a premium. Sheldon |
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"Sheldon" > wrote in message > Even as few as fifty years ago produce was mostly old, poor quality, > and of course non-existant except for what was in season very locally, > so availability was very limited. Fifty years ago produce was > purchased from a stand alone green grocer, all you could buy was only > what was produced within fifty miles tops, > Today's stupidmarket produce is better in every way than it's ever > been. In fact all food is better today, those who bitch are those who > make stupid choices... The problem that I see is buying imported veggies in the local "off season" and expecting them to be as good as fresh picked as the local summer crop. That just won't happen, but the overall quality is pretty good and the selection is tremendous compared to the past. Refrigerated trucking and air freight have done wonders for improving the selection. |
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> wrote in message oups.com... | What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? | Here's the ones I know. | | 1. Salmon. They have farm raised salmon which is inferior to | wild-caught salmon because the farm salmon lacks omega 3 fatty acids, | which are important for many human physiological functions, including | the creation of more serotonin, which helps fight depression. | | 2. Coffee. I heard that the average coffee is lower quality than it | used to be, because at some time, maybe in the 70's, there was a coffee | shortage, which resulted in lower coffee quality. And ever since then, | Americans have become accustomed to drinking lower quality coffee. | (However, I'm sure high quality coffee is still available if you look | for it) | | 3. Meat - Americans used to eat a lot of wild meat 100 or more years | ago. Once again, it had omega 3 fatty acids, which farm raised meats | lack. (By the way, I take fish oil pills which have the omega 3 acids). | 4. Vegetables that have been "improved". ie. tomatoes/corn 5. Fruit same as above.. we just had a thread about Delicious Apples. 6. Bread that has been "wonderized" And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that just need 1 thing added to complete the meal. Debbie |
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On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:59:37a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been > canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that just > need 1 thing added to complete the meal. Yep, we need to add "food" to make those work! :-) -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four, unless there are three other people. |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:59:37a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking: > > >> And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been >> canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that just >> need 1 thing added to complete the meal. > > Yep, we need to add "food" to make those work! :-) I nominate Nestle's and their Toll House chocolate chip cookie dough in a tube, for depriving kids of the joy of making the best kitchen magic ever! Imho. -- Andy http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h |
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"Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message ... | On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:59:37a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking: | | | > And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been | > canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that just | > need 1 thing added to complete the meal. | | Yep, we need to add "food" to make those work! :-) | And not even good "food"! :-) There are some though that have the fixings in the box. I came across them last winter. The box contains a can of stew.. chicken, beef and a turkey variety too I think. In addition to this can is a package of biscuit mix. The cost was about twice it would be to buy a can of stew and the biscuit mix separately (not to mention the biscuit mix would do for more than 1 can of stew). People were buying them up making comments about what a good idea they were. Debbie |
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"Debbie" > wrote in message ... > > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > ... > | On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:59:37a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking: > | > | > | > And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been > | > canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that > just > | > need 1 thing added to complete the meal. > | > | Yep, we need to add "food" to make those work! :-) > | > And not even good "food"! :-) There are some though that have the fixings > in the box. I came across them last winter. The box contains a can of > stew.. chicken, beef and a turkey variety too I think. In addition to > this > can is a package of biscuit mix. The cost was about twice it would be to > buy a can of stew and the biscuit mix separately (not to mention the > biscuit > mix would do for more than 1 can of stew). People were buying them up > making comments about what a good idea they were. > > Debbie > I'm convinced there must be something for everyone. These ad men are genius'. Dee Dee |
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Debbie wrote: > "Wayne Boatwright" > wrote in message > ... > | On Mon 05 Sep 2005 07:59:37a, Debbie wrote in rec.food.cooking: > | > | > | > And of course we now have all the convenience foods that have been > | > canned to make prep faster. Not to mention food combinations that just > | > need 1 thing added to complete the meal. > | > | Yep, we need to add "food" to make those work! :-) > | > And not even good "food"! :-) There are some though that have the fixings > in the box. I came across them last winter. The box contains a can of > stew.. chicken, beef and a turkey variety too I think. In addition to this > can is a package of biscuit mix. The cost was about twice it would be to > buy a can of stew and the biscuit mix separately (not to mention the biscuit > mix would do for more than 1 can of stew). People were buying them up > making comments about what a good idea they were. > > Debbie Reminds of that Banquet "Desert in a box" I purchased which was for apple crisp, and when I opened it to make it I found it consisted of a can of apple pie filling and a brown sugar topping packet. It was terrible. |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 12:30:07 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >Products are now grown and produced to make them store forever, be >shipped cross county without the advantage of ripeness and be sold to >us as cheaply as possible, often using labor that is paid subsistence >wages. The world of food production has changed. We, ourselves, can >seek out foods that are grown well, prepared well and eaten in a >healthy way. All it takes is time and money. Some folks have neither, >some have one or the other and some have neither. Then are those who >really don't care, or for whom food is not really enjoyable, but just >a necessity. RFC is not the place we'll find too many of the latter. > >Boron Well said! There is excellent food to be found, including bread, etc. for those who can afford it, time- or money-wise. Mass production of food has kept the price down to a level where more people can afford it. Say what one will about fluffy enriched white bread, but then look at the prices for the boutique stuff in the same grocery store. I'm sure a lot of poor and middle-class people would love to eat like kings but can't. Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself! |
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Boron Elgar wrote:
> On 5 Sep 2005 02:03:15 -0700, wrote: > > >>What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? > > > > Alas....when I was a lass, Hostess Cupcakes were delish. > > > I grow my own vegetables, bake my own breads (often grind the wheat, > but have to buy the wheatberries), roast my own coffee, drive around > the country side to find family farm raised goodies...we eat well > here. > We do most of this with exception to roasting coffee. Access to green coffee beans is really limited here > Something that should be remembered in this thread....the foods we > used to eat as children were eaten in season, not year 'round, and > likely produced locally, too. > That's something few people consider now with the super stores. Our family eats seasonally in that we eat what is in season and preserve enough to get to the next season. We find it is cheaper that way. Tomatoes are running right now so I'm busy canning and every meal has tomatoes in some form. Peaches are also running so peaches are on the menu too. > Products are now grown and produced to make them store forever, be > shipped cross county without the advantage of ripeness and be sold to > us as cheaply as possible, often using labor that is paid subsistence > wages. The world of food production has changed. We, ourselves, can > seek out foods that are grown well, prepared well and eaten in a > healthy way. All it takes is time and money. Some folks have neither, > some have one or the other and some have neither. Then are those who > really don't care, or for whom food is not really enjoyable, but just > a necessity. RFC is not the place we'll find too many of the latter. I agree some have neither time or money but more importantly space. You give me a 3' x 3' space and I can grow a heck of a lot of stuff with very little time or money but some just don't have the space. For those who do have even the smallest of space, I would recommend some type of garden even if it is a container garden. It will save money and provide a variety you just can't get in the stores. At the very least grow herbs on your window sills. > > Boron |
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"~patches~" > wrote in message ... > Boron Elgar wrote: > >> On 5 Sep 2005 02:03:15 -0700, wrote: >> >> >>>What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? >> >> >> >> Alas....when I was a lass, Hostess Cupcakes were delish. >> >> >> I grow my own vegetables, bake my own breads (often grind the wheat, >> but have to buy the wheatberries), roast my own coffee, drive around >> the country side to find family farm raised goodies...we eat well >> here. >> > We do most of this with exception to roasting coffee. Access to green > coffee beans is really limited here > > >> Something that should be remembered in this thread....the foods we >> used to eat as children were eaten in season, not year 'round, and >> likely produced locally, too. >> > > That's something few people consider now with the super stores. Our > family eats seasonally in that we eat what is in season and preserve > enough to get to the next season. We find it is cheaper that way. > Tomatoes are running right now so I'm busy canning and every meal has > tomatoes in some form. Peaches are also running so peaches are on the > menu too. > >> Products are now grown and produced to make them store forever, be >> shipped cross county without the advantage of ripeness and be sold to >> us as cheaply as possible, often using labor that is paid subsistence >> wages. The world of food production has changed. We, ourselves, can >> seek out foods that are grown well, prepared well and eaten in a >> healthy way. All it takes is time and money. Some folks have neither, >> some have one or the other and some have neither. Then are those who >> really don't care, or for whom food is not really enjoyable, but just >> a necessity. RFC is not the place we'll find too many of the latter. > > I agree some have neither time or money but more importantly space. You > give me a 3' x 3' space and I can grow a heck of a lot of stuff with very > little time or money but some just don't have the space. For those who do > have even the smallest of space, I would recommend some type of garden > even if it is a container garden. It will save money and provide a > variety you just can't get in the stores. At the very least grow herbs on > your window sills. >> >> Boron Boron, when I put herbs inside the house, I always get a lot of aphids. Do you have any sugestion. I've tried a little soap/water spray, but they continue. Thanks, Dee Dee |
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Dee Randall wrote:
> "~patches~" > wrote in message > ... > >>Boron Elgar wrote: >> >> >>>On 5 Sep 2005 02:03:15 -0700, wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? >>> >>> >>> >>>Alas....when I was a lass, Hostess Cupcakes were delish. >>> >>> >>>I grow my own vegetables, bake my own breads (often grind the wheat, >>>but have to buy the wheatberries), roast my own coffee, drive around >>>the country side to find family farm raised goodies...we eat well >>>here. >>> >> >>We do most of this with exception to roasting coffee. Access to green >>coffee beans is really limited here >> >> >> >>>Something that should be remembered in this thread....the foods we >>>used to eat as children were eaten in season, not year 'round, and >>>likely produced locally, too. >>> >> >>That's something few people consider now with the super stores. Our >>family eats seasonally in that we eat what is in season and preserve >>enough to get to the next season. We find it is cheaper that way. >>Tomatoes are running right now so I'm busy canning and every meal has >>tomatoes in some form. Peaches are also running so peaches are on the >>menu too. >> >> >>>Products are now grown and produced to make them store forever, be >>>shipped cross county without the advantage of ripeness and be sold to >>>us as cheaply as possible, often using labor that is paid subsistence >>>wages. The world of food production has changed. We, ourselves, can >>>seek out foods that are grown well, prepared well and eaten in a >>>healthy way. All it takes is time and money. Some folks have neither, >>>some have one or the other and some have neither. Then are those who >>>really don't care, or for whom food is not really enjoyable, but just >>>a necessity. RFC is not the place we'll find too many of the latter. >> >>I agree some have neither time or money but more importantly space. You >>give me a 3' x 3' space and I can grow a heck of a lot of stuff with very >>little time or money but some just don't have the space. For those who do >>have even the smallest of space, I would recommend some type of garden >>even if it is a container garden. It will save money and provide a >>variety you just can't get in the stores. At the very least grow herbs on >>your window sills. >> >>>Boron > > > Boron, when I put herbs inside the house, I always get a lot of aphids. Do > you have any sugestion. I've tried a little soap/water spray, but they > continue. > Thanks, > Dee Dee > > Dee Dee, I hope you don't mind me answering. Most herbs are gloriously pest free but for those that do get aphids, I would suggest Safer's Soap Spray. I make a homemade version using a few drops of dishwashing detergent, a couple of drops of olive oil, and a litre (~quart) of water. Then just spray on the affected plant. It should kill off the critters without harming the plants. Good luck. |
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"~patches~" > wrote in message ... > Dee Randall wrote: > >> "~patches~" > wrote in message >> ... >> >>>Boron Elgar wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On 5 Sep 2005 02:03:15 -0700, wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to be? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Alas....when I was a lass, Hostess Cupcakes were delish. >>>> >>>> >>>>I grow my own vegetables, bake my own breads (often grind the wheat, >>>>but have to buy the wheatberries), roast my own coffee, drive around >>>>the country side to find family farm raised goodies...we eat well >>>>here. >>>> >>> >>>We do most of this with exception to roasting coffee. Access to green >>>coffee beans is really limited here >>> >>> >>> >>>>Something that should be remembered in this thread....the foods we >>>>used to eat as children were eaten in season, not year 'round, and >>>>likely produced locally, too. >>>> >>> >>>That's something few people consider now with the super stores. Our >>>family eats seasonally in that we eat what is in season and preserve >>>enough to get to the next season. We find it is cheaper that way. >>>Tomatoes are running right now so I'm busy canning and every meal has >>>tomatoes in some form. Peaches are also running so peaches are on the >>>menu too. >>> >>> >>>>Products are now grown and produced to make them store forever, be >>>>shipped cross county without the advantage of ripeness and be sold to >>>>us as cheaply as possible, often using labor that is paid subsistence >>>>wages. The world of food production has changed. We, ourselves, can >>>>seek out foods that are grown well, prepared well and eaten in a >>>>healthy way. All it takes is time and money. Some folks have neither, >>>>some have one or the other and some have neither. Then are those who >>>>really don't care, or for whom food is not really enjoyable, but just >>>>a necessity. RFC is not the place we'll find too many of the latter. >>> >>>I agree some have neither time or money but more importantly space. You >>>give me a 3' x 3' space and I can grow a heck of a lot of stuff with very >>>little time or money but some just don't have the space. For those who >>>do have even the smallest of space, I would recommend some type of garden >>>even if it is a container garden. It will save money and provide a >>>variety you just can't get in the stores. At the very least grow herbs >>>on your window sills. >>> >>>>Boron >> >> >> Boron, when I put herbs inside the house, I always get a lot of aphids. >> Do you have any sugestion. I've tried a little soap/water spray, but >> they continue. >> Thanks, >> Dee Dee > Dee Dee, I hope you don't mind me answering. Most herbs are gloriously > pest free but for those that do get aphids, I would suggest Safer's Soap > Spray. I make a homemade version using a few drops of dishwashing > detergent, a couple of drops of olive oil, and a litre (~quart) of water. > Then just spray on the affected plant. It should kill off the critters > without harming the plants. Good luck. Thanks so much. I'll keep this recipe. Hmm -- olive oil - I'd think they enjoy that! My appreciation, Dee Dee |
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~patches~ wrote:
> We do most of this with exception to roasting coffee. Access to green > coffee beans is really limited here Where's here? Anywhere with net access is right next door in terms of green beans. www.smithfarms.com www.sweetmarias.com jim |
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maxine in ri > wrote:
: On 5 Sep 2005 02:03:15 -0700, connected the dots : and wrote: : ~What foods do you guys know of that aren't as good as they used to : be? <snip> : Tomatoes. I've been saying that for several years now, but this year it's as if all those wonderful tomatoes of memory are back [in the farmers' markets and my neighbor's backyard] They must be extremely sensitive to growing weather. : Chicken. The local free range chicken is good right down to the inside of the cracked bones. --thelma, eating well : maxine in ri : : |
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Birch beer. I used to love birch beer as a kid growing up in PA. When
I tried it 30 years later as an adult.... GAAACK! It tastes like Pepto-Bismol!! :-p Regards -- Terry |
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Any fresh fruit and Tomatoes Even when they're in season, they're either picked green, or modified to "travel well". No wonder modern kids take "eat your fruit" as a punishmnent ! <rj> |
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As I said in a recent (to me) posting:
Has anyone else noticed a change in Wolfgang Puck's Spicy Chicken Pizza. I used to really like this stuff, but the last few times have been really disappointing. I believe the formulation has changed in the following respects: 1. instead of chunks of intact chicken meat, now it seems to be some sort of chopped-and-formed meat product 2. the leeks formerly abundant are now scarce 3. the herbs which were formerly very fragrant are now hardly noticable It took several pizzas for me to notice that this product really has changed. I used to think it was worth its premium price, but I definitely don't think so anymore. I resent when a company reformulates a product in a cheapening way, and exploits the reputation earned when a higher-quality product was sold under the same name. |
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"Mark Thorson" > wrote > It took several pizzas for me to notice that this > product really has changed. I used to think it was > worth its premium price, but I definitely don't > think so anymore. I resent when a company reformulates > a product in a cheapening way, and exploits the > reputation earned when a higher-quality product > was sold under the same name. You know, that really makes me mad. I find a food product I really like, I am the picture of brand loyalty. All of a sudden, out of the blue, it's different, and you see the brand was sold. Buy a good product with the goal in mind, as you said, to count on people still buying it, except don't bother making it the same quality. Obviously they think we won't notice. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> You know, that really makes me mad. I find a food > product I really like, I am the picture of brand loyalty. > All of a sudden, out of the blue, it's different, and you > see the brand was sold. Buy a good product with the > goal in mind, as you said, to count on people still > buying it, except don't bother making it the same > quality. Obviously they think we won't notice. > > nancy > I hate that! Don't they understand that if a product is successful, that it has to do with the quality? Even more galling is when they tell us it has improved, when the exact opposite has happened. -- Jean B. |
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:23:24 -0400, I needed a babel fish to
understand "Jean B." > : >Nancy Young wrote: > >> You know, that really makes me mad. I find a food >> product I really like, I am the picture of brand loyalty. >> All of a sudden, out of the blue, it's different, and you >> see the brand was sold. Buy a good product with the >> goal in mind, as you said, to count on people still >> buying it, except don't bother making it the same >> quality. Obviously they think we won't notice. >> >> nancy >> >I hate that! Don't they understand that if a product is >successful, that it has to do with the quality? Even more >galling is when they tell us it has improved, when the exact >opposite has happened. Its not a specific product.. But I have found Oranges are not what they used to be. I don't ever recall when I was a child where I ate an orange and it wasn't sweet and juicy... I cant even find one now that's sweet and juicy.... almost feels like its gunna suck the saliva out of my mouth. ---------------------------------------- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke |
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orange,plums,peaches,watermellon do not compare with what I had as a
kid. Maybe it's all in my mind, but I don't think so. Beef was also better.Steaks were tasty and juicy. It might be for the good--I eat much less of it now. |
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LewZephyr wrote:
> > Its not a specific product.. But I have found Oranges are not what > they used to be. I don't ever recall when I was a child where I ate > an orange and it wasn't sweet and juicy... > I cant even find one now that's sweet and juicy.... almost feels > like its gunna suck the saliva out of my mouth. Hmmm, yes. Now they tend to be dry much of the time. Not worth eating. -- Jean B. |
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