Someone mentioned there used to be a couple of different kinds of
ketchup but now they could only find the Heinz style ketchup. I decided
to make ketchup today. I have several recipes. I noticed that each
recipe starts with tomato puree, chopped tomatoes, or tomato paste. I
also noticed each recipe uses a portion of whole spices with the
exception of one. The kinds of ground spices were fairly consistent
for each recipe. This got me thinking that playing with the spices can
vary the flavour somewhat. All the recipes had vinegar of some type in
them so even altering the type of vinegar would change the flavour. All
had some type of sugar so perhaps brown sugar would give a richer
flavour? All the recipes were straight forward and would be easy to do.
One recipe says it will keep for at least 8 months in the fridge. I
would imagine with the sugar and vinegar content this would hold true
for all of them. The nice thing about making your own is you can tinker
with the flavour and the consistency. There is a basic recipe for
ketchup at homecanning.com.

I settled on one recipe then tweaked from there. You should smell my
kitchen! This one is going to be a keeper. I'm planning on canning it
up when it's finished reducing. Outside my backdoor a nice rosting pan
full of tomato paste is reducing as well. So even outside smells like
cooking tomatoes

On Mon 12 Sep 2005 12:00:00p, ~patches~ wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Someone mentioned there used to be a couple of different kinds of
> ketchup but now they could only find the Heinz style ketchup. I decided
> to make ketchup today. I have several recipes. I noticed that each
> recipe starts with tomato puree, chopped tomatoes, or tomato paste. I
> also noticed each recipe uses a portion of whole spices with the
> exception of one. The kinds of ground spices were fairly consistent
> for each recipe. This got me thinking that playing with the spices can
> vary the flavour somewhat. All the recipes had vinegar of some type in
> them so even altering the type of vinegar would change the flavour. All
> had some type of sugar so perhaps brown sugar would give a richer
> flavour? All the recipes were straight forward and would be easy to do.
> One recipe says it will keep for at least 8 months in the fridge. I
> would imagine with the sugar and vinegar content this would hold true
> for all of them. The nice thing about making your own is you can tinker
> with the flavour and the consistency. There is a basic recipe for
> ketchup at homecanning.com.
>
> I settled on one recipe then tweaked from there. You should smell my
> kitchen! This one is going to be a keeper. I'm planning on canning it
> up when it's finished reducing. Outside my backdoor a nice rosting pan
> full of tomato paste is reducing as well. So even outside smells like
> cooking tomatoes
>

I bet all of that really does smell good! Have you documented all the
tinkering you've done in the course of making this batch that smells so
good? I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to know what you ended up with.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:00:00 -0400, ~patches~
> wrote:

>Someone mentioned there used to be a couple of different kinds of
>ketchup but now they could only find the Heinz style ketchup. I decided
>to make ketchup today. I have several recipes. I noticed that each
>recipe starts with tomato puree, chopped tomatoes, or tomato paste. I
>also noticed each recipe uses a portion of whole spices with the
>exception of one. The kinds of ground spices were fairly consistent
>for each recipe. This got me thinking that playing with the spices can
>vary the flavour somewhat. All the recipes had vinegar of some type in
>them so even altering the type of vinegar would change the flavour. All
>had some type of sugar so perhaps brown sugar would give a richer
>flavour? All the recipes were straight forward and would be easy to do.
> One recipe says it will keep for at least 8 months in the fridge. I
>would imagine with the sugar and vinegar content this would hold true
>for all of them. The nice thing about making your own is you can tinker
>with the flavour and the consistency. There is a basic recipe for
>ketchup at homecanning.com.
>
>I settled on one recipe then tweaked from there. You should smell my
>kitchen! This one is going to be a keeper. I'm planning on canning it
>up when it's finished reducing. Outside my backdoor a nice rosting pan
>full of tomato paste is reducing as well. So even outside smells like
>cooking tomatoes


If it turns out to be close to Heinz, definitely post the recipe.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:00:00 -0400, ~patches~
> wrote:

>Someone mentioned there used to be a couple of different kinds of
>ketchup but now they could only find the Heinz style ketchup. I decided
>to make ketchup today. I have several recipes. I noticed that each
>recipe starts with tomato puree, chopped tomatoes, or tomato paste. I
>also noticed each recipe uses a portion of whole spices with the
>exception of one. The kinds of ground spices were fairly consistent
>for each recipe. This got me thinking that playing with the spices can
>vary the flavour somewhat. All the recipes had vinegar of some type in
>them so even altering the type of vinegar would change the flavour. All
>had some type of sugar so perhaps brown sugar would give a richer
>flavour? All the recipes were straight forward and would be easy to do.
> One recipe says it will keep for at least 8 months in the fridge. I
>would imagine with the sugar and vinegar content this would hold true
>for all of them. The nice thing about making your own is you can tinker
>with the flavour and the consistency. There is a basic recipe for
>ketchup at homecanning.com.
>
>I settled on one recipe then tweaked from there. You should smell my
>kitchen! This one is going to be a keeper. I'm planning on canning it
>up when it's finished reducing. Outside my backdoor a nice rosting pan
>full of tomato paste is reducing as well. So even outside smells like
>cooking tomatoes


I don't care too much for ketchup, too sweet. Loved the stuff I had in
Germany but I have no idea what type it was.

Hope yours turns out great!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:

> On Mon 12 Sep 2005 12:00:00p, ~patches~ wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>
>>Someone mentioned there used to be a couple of different kinds of
>>ketchup but now they could only find the Heinz style ketchup. I decided
>>to make ketchup today. I have several recipes. I noticed that each
>>recipe starts with tomato puree, chopped tomatoes, or tomato paste. I
>>also noticed each recipe uses a portion of whole spices with the
>>exception of one. The kinds of ground spices were fairly consistent
>>for each recipe. This got me thinking that playing with the spices can
>>vary the flavour somewhat. All the recipes had vinegar of some type in
>>them so even altering the type of vinegar would change the flavour. All
>>had some type of sugar so perhaps brown sugar would give a richer
>>flavour? All the recipes were straight forward and would be easy to do.
>> One recipe says it will keep for at least 8 months in the fridge. I
>>would imagine with the sugar and vinegar content this would hold true
>>for all of them. The nice thing about making your own is you can tinker
>>with the flavour and the consistency. There is a basic recipe for
>>ketchup at homecanning.com.
>>
>>I settled on one recipe then tweaked from there. You should smell my
>>kitchen! This one is going to be a keeper. I'm planning on canning it
>>up when it's finished reducing. Outside my backdoor a nice rosting pan
>>full of tomato paste is reducing as well. So even outside smells like
>>cooking tomatoes
>>
>
>
> I bet all of that really does smell good! Have you documented all the
> tinkering you've done in the course of making this batch that smells so
> good? I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to know what you ended up with.
>
All tinkering was documented in the margine alongside the recipe. The
texture and colour are similar to Heinz. The flavour is richer with
deeper spice flavours. It isn't a *hot* spicey though. I ended up with
about 2 L of ketchup. I decided not to can it but rather store in the
fridge for the flavours to meld. I have another of the recipes I want
to try likely tomorrow. What I'm looking for is a zipped up ketchup
which is what I think the first attempt produced and a milder ketchup
similar to Heinz.