The interesting and free article is here

http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

Always despised them as a kid...

CRCoupons.com wrote:
> The interesting and free article is here
>
> http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within a
mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
a few hundred feet away. Nonetheless, the tomato sauce nearby clearly
was a different recipe from the Sloppy Joes. It was noted there were
plenty of buns in the area, so no big mystery there!
Of course, there was speculation the someone, probably the resturant
owner or cook, actually make the Sloppy Joe and put it out on the table
as a joke. But no one has ever proved this. The owner, who died in
1988, swore on his death bed that he had nothing to do with the strange
appearance of the new sandwich in his restaurant. The cook has lived in
seclusion in the Oregon woods since 1957, and has refused all attempts
at interviews, which, of course, has given rise to speculation that he
is, in fact, the culprit.
There have also been unfounded rumors that there was a tie-in with the
Bermuda Triangle, that the sandwich was actually created there by one
of the five missing airmen, then flown to Philly. There is no hard
evidence to support this claim.

salgud wrote:

> Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
> small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
> considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within
a
> mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
> a few hundred feet away.


52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or 2nd
and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.

My guess is somewhere, when some meatballs fell apart in a meat sauce,
it got slopped on a bun for no other reason than to salvage a disaster.
Somebody who had to eat it probably took a long look and said "pretty
sloppy, Joe!"

I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
on top.

Andy

>
> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
> on top.
>
> Andy



I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe is.
But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it one
day.

Jen

Jen wrote:

>>
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>
> Jen


Jen,

It's probably similar in lore to the origin of Australia's meatpie. But
WHO thought up the floater?!!! I'd like to shake their hand!!! ))

Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:28:13 GMT, "Jen" >
wrote:

> I'll have to try it one
>day.

don't bother....just "loose meat" in a quasi tomato sauce....bun
soaked with tomate grease and then runs down your arm....and your
neighbor's arm.....across the table.....dog licks up the mess....

CRCoupons.com wrote:
>
> interesting

Does The Sloppy Joe Have An Orgasm?

Interesting...

Sheldon

Jen wrote:
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>
> Jen

It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's like
a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
eat but oh so good!

Jill

On Thu 22 Sep 2005 02:23:57p, ~john wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Always despised them as a kid...
>

Thanks for sharing!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Not all people are annoying. Some are dead.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Jen wrote:
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
> > Jen
>
> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
like
> a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
> eat but oh so good!
>
> Jill
>
>

I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
husband is in agreement!

kili

Mi e' parso che jmcquown abbia scritto:

> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce
> served on a hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion
> differs - some folks say it's like a southern barbeque
> sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any
> rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!

I do something similar when I spread ragout (a la bolognese) on
bread buns, just an alternative to eating it in a dish...
--
Vilco
Think Pink , Drink Rose'

"Jen" > wrote in
:

>>
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>

I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a foodstuff,
because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though I'm not sure if
the term is used throughout the entire country) a sloppy joe is a fleecy
top, like a sweatshirt.

The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of the
TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about spending
the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was that I'd never
seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out that it was actually
the dish she was talking about.

I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
.5...
> "Jen" > wrote in
> :
>
> >>
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
>
> I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a foodstuff,
> because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though I'm not sure if
> the term is used throughout the entire country) a sloppy joe is a fleecy
> top, like a sweatshirt.
>
> The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of the
> TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about spending
> the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was that I'd never
> seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out that it was actually
> the dish she was talking about.
>
> I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
>
> Rhonda Anderson
> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could include
green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato sauce
stain. :~)

kili

"Jen" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
>> on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe
> is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it
> one day.
>
> Jen
Just looks like meat sauce to me. With added sugar and chemicals.

Liz

"kilikini" > wrote in
:

>
> "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
> .5...

>>
>> I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a
>> foodstuff, because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though
>> I'm not sure if the term is used throughout the entire country) a
>> sloppy joe is a fleecy top, like a sweatshirt.
>>
>> The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of
>> the TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about
>> spending the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was
>> that I'd never seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out
>> that it was actually the dish she was talking about.
>>
>> I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
>>
>> Rhonda Anderson
>> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
>
> A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could
> include
> green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
> Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato sauce
> stain. :~)
>

So I wouldn't wear a white sloppy joe while eating sloppy joes? <g>

Since that Roseanne episode years ago I have become familiar with what a
sloppy joe is, but I've never tried one. However, growing up we often had
what was called savoury mince, and often had that over toast. It was beef
mince (ground beef) cooked with various seasonings and vegies, possibly
tomato. So I figure that would probably be a second cousin to a sloppy
joe <g>

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"kilikini" > wrote in message
...
|
| "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
| .5...
| > "Jen" > wrote in
| > :
| >
| > >>
| > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
| > >> slop on top.
| > >>
| > >> Andy
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
| > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
| > > to try it one day.
| > >
| >
| > I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a foodstuff,
| > because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though I'm not sure if
| > the term is used throughout the entire country) a sloppy joe is a fleecy
| > top, like a sweatshirt.
| >
| > The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of the
| > TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about spending
| > the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was that I'd
never
| > seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out that it was actually
| > the dish she was talking about.
| >
| > I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
| >
| > Rhonda Anderson
| > Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
|
| A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could include
| green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
| Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato sauce
| stain. :~)
|

I add a small bag of frozen mixed veggies to mine. We use a knife and fork
which makes the stains less likely. :-)

Debbie

On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jen wrote:
>> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> >> slop on top.
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
>> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
>> > to try it one day.
>> >
>> > Jen
>>
>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
>> like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
>> onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
>> sloppy to eat but oh so good!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> husband is in agreement!
>
> kili

I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't like
them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's made.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Not all people are annoying. Some are dead.

Andy wrote:
> salgud wrote:
>
> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within
> a
> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
> > a few hundred feet away.
>
>
> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or 2nd
> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
>

So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?

Andy wrote:
> Jen wrote:
>
> >>
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
> > Jen
>
>
> Jen,
>
> It's probably similar in lore to the origin of Australia's meatpie. But
> WHO thought up the floater?!!! I'd like to shake their hand!!! ))
>
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

What's a floater?

salgud wrote:

>
> Andy wrote:
>> salgud wrote:
>>
>> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in
a
>> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market.
It's
>> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger
within
>> a
>> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce
just
>> > a few hundred feet away.
>>
>>
>> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or
2nd
>> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
>>
>
> So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?


Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
to dought it.

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

Ward Abbott wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:28:13 GMT, "Jen" >
> wrote:
>
> > I'll have to try it one
> >day.
>
> don't bother....just "loose meat" in a quasi tomato sauce....bun
> soaked with tomate grease and then runs down your arm....and your
> neighbor's arm.....across the table.....dog licks up the mess....

Isn't it amazing how people get a concept of something based on an
unpleasant experience or experiences, then translate that into an
absolute and generalize the absolute?!

"Andy" <q> wrote

> salgud wrote:

>> So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?

> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
> to dought it.

I think it was a joke ... but I doubt it. (laugh)

nancy (starting to think I want a sloppy joe)

kilikini wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jen wrote:
> > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > >> slop on top.
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > to try it one day.
> > >
> > > Jen
> >
> > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> like
> > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
> > eat but oh so good!
> >
> > Jill
> >
> >
>
> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> husband is in agreement!
>
> kili

Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.

Staycalm wrote:
> "Jen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
> >> on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe
> > is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it
> > one day.
> >
> > Jen
> Just looks like meat sauce to me. With added sugar and chemicals.
>
> Liz

If that's how you choose to make it, that's exactly what it is!

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Jen wrote:
>>>>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>>>>> slop on top.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a
>>>> sloppy joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea.
>>>> I'll have to try it one day.
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>
>>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say
>>> it's like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato
>>> sauce. I add onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine.
>>> At any rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night
>> as a kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult.
>> Thank GOD my husband is in agreement!
>>
>> kili
>
> I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't
> like them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's
> made.

kili would eat it if the ground beef was practically raw! She just can't
stand cooked meat. She eats her burgers bloody rare.

Jill

Nancy Young wrote:

>
> "Andy" <q> wrote
>
>> salgud wrote:
>
>>> So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?
>
>> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go
downhill
>> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta
tend
>> to dought it.
>
> I think it was a joke ... but I doubt it. (laugh)
>
> nancy (starting to think I want a sloppy joe)


nancy,

I'm a sloppy joe on occasion! You sayin' yer interested??

<Very Big Grin>

Andy

"salgud" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> kilikini wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Jen wrote:
> > > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > > >> slop on top.
> > > >>
> > > >> Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > > to try it one day.
> > > >
> > > > Jen
> > >
> > > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> > like
> > > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
onion,
> > > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
sloppy to
> > > eat but oh so good!
> > >
> > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> > kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> > husband is in agreement!
> >
> > kili
>
> Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
>

It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
burgers to make it safer for me to eat.

kili

Rhonda Anderson wrote:
> "kilikini" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
>> .5...
>
>>>
>>> I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a
>>> foodstuff, because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though
>>> I'm not sure if the term is used throughout the entire country) a
>>> sloppy joe is a fleecy top, like a sweatshirt.
>>>
>>> The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of
>>> the TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about
>>> spending the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was
>>> that I'd never seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out
>>> that it was actually the dish she was talking about.
>>>
>>> I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
>>>
>>> Rhonda Anderson
>>> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
>>
>> A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could
>> include
>> green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
>> Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato
>> sauce stain. :~)
>>
>
> So I wouldn't wear a white sloppy joe while eating sloppy joes? <g>
>
> Since that Roseanne episode years ago I have become familiar with
> what a sloppy joe is, but I've never tried one. However, growing up
> we often had what was called savoury mince, and often had that over
> toast. It was beef mince (ground beef) cooked with various seasonings
> and vegies, possibly tomato. So I figure that would probably be a
> second cousin to a sloppy joe <g>
>
> Rhonda Anderson
> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

It's quite similar except on bread and more "saucy". My Scottish
grandmother made mince and served it over mashed potatoes.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Jen wrote:
> >>>>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >>>>> slop on top.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a
> >>>> sloppy joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea.
> >>>> I'll have to try it one day.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jen
> >>>
> >>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> >>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say
> >>> it's like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato
> >>> sauce. I add onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine.
> >>> At any rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night
> >> as a kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult.
> >> Thank GOD my husband is in agreement!
> >>
> >> kili
> >
> > I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't
> > like them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's
> > made.
>
> kili would eat it if the ground beef was practically raw! She just can't
> stand cooked meat. She eats her burgers bloody rare.
>
> Jill
>
>

Yep, you got it, Jill! I won't eat any beef "cooked". It tastes dead.
It's got this "off" flavor to me that I dislike immensely. I'll eat fish
cooked, I'll eat fish raw. Pork, I like medium. Chicken, well, we all know
chicken has to be cooked. :~)

kili

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
| Rhonda Anderson wrote:
| > "kilikini" > wrote in
| > :
| >
| >>
| >> "Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
| >> .5...
| >
| >>>
| >>> I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a
| >>> foodstuff, because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though
| >>> I'm not sure if the term is used throughout the entire country) a
| >>> sloppy joe is a fleecy top, like a sweatshirt.
| >>>
| >>> The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of
| >>> the TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about
| >>> spending the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was
| >>> that I'd never seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out
| >>> that it was actually the dish she was talking about.
| >>>
| >>> I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
| >>>
| >>> Rhonda Anderson
| >>> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
| >>
| >> A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could
| >> include
| >> green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
| >> Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato
| >> sauce stain. :~)
| >>
| >
| > So I wouldn't wear a white sloppy joe while eating sloppy joes? <g>
| >
| > Since that Roseanne episode years ago I have become familiar with
| > what a sloppy joe is, but I've never tried one. However, growing up
| > we often had what was called savoury mince, and often had that over
| > toast. It was beef mince (ground beef) cooked with various seasonings
| > and vegies, possibly tomato. So I figure that would probably be a
| > second cousin to a sloppy joe <g>
| >
| > Rhonda Anderson
| > Cranebrook, NSW, Australia
|
| It's quite similar except on bread and more "saucy". My Scottish
| grandmother made mince and served it over mashed potatoes.
|
I do that.. I call mine hamburg gravy. Comfort food on a cold winter day in
our house. We love ***warning*** pickled beets with this. :-)

Debbie

Andy wrote:
> salgud wrote:
>
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >> salgud wrote:
> >>
> >> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in
> a
> >> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market.
> It's
> >> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger
> within
> >> a
> >> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce
> just
> >> > a few hundred feet away.
> >>
> >>
> >> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or
> 2nd
> >> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
> >>
> >
> > So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?
>
>
> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
> to dought it.
>
> --
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

You mean you doubt that it was flown in by one of the missing airmen
from the Bermuda Triangle incident?

salgud wrote:

>
> Andy wrote:
>> salgud wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Andy wrote:
>> >> salgud wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946,
in
>> a
>> >> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market.
>> It's
>> >> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger
>> within
>> >> a
>> >> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato
sauce
>> just
>> >> > a few hundred feet away.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th
or
>> 2nd
>> >> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
>> >>
>> >
>> > So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?
>>
>>
>> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go
downhill
>> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta
tend
>> to dought it.
>>
>> --
>> Andy
>> http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h
>
> You mean you doubt that it was flown in by one of the missing airmen
> from the Bermuda Triangle incident?


Now that's plausible!!!

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

On 2005-09-22, CRCoupons.com > wrote:
> The interesting and free article is here
>
> http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

OK, I'm just gonna hafta weigh in on this one:

=======

"Sloppy Joe

H.K. Heinz in Pittsburgh says their research at the Carnegie Library
suggests that the Sloppy Joe began in a Sioux City, Iowa, cafe as a
"loose meat sandwich" in 1930, the creation of a cook named Joe..."
Since ground meat, stretched as best as possible, was a staple
throughout the depression, we will credit the creation of the sloppy
joe to the general spirit of all people who use their imagination to
make food taste good without cost."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T26B229DB

========

Well, that's one take on it. All I know is I love the dang things
and haven't had one in years.

I got hooked on these free-form burgers as a kid, our grade school
cafeteria serving them at least every other week. I can see it now. A
square sectioned baby blue Melmac cafeteria plate holding a steaming
Sloppy Joe, a plop of Van Camp's pork n' beans, some freshly opened fruit
cocktail, and a flat-topped 6oz waxed carton of uncategorized milk.
Cold and foggy outside, warm and cozy inside. Mmmmm...

I suspect my love of middle TN style bbq is a direct consequence of
those early Sloppies. I, myself, am a devout advocate of Manwich,
which perfectly replicates those old Modesto School Disctrict gut
bombs that so warmed my tummy and soul on cold Winter days. I
wouldn't be a bit surprised is Manwich is just a home version of the
same sauce sold to millions of schools. Hunt's has been around
forever. I know one thing, tomato soup is a thousand miles away from
what a Sloppy Joe should taste like.

Guess what I'm having for dinner tonight?

nb

kilikini wrote:

> "salgud" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>kilikini wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>>>>Jen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>>>>>>slop on top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
>>>>>joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
>>>>>to try it one day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jen
>>>>
>>>>It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>>>>hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>>a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
>
> onion,
>
>>>>garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
>
> sloppy to
>
>>>>eat but oh so good!
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
>>>kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
>>>husband is in agreement!
>>>
>>>kili
>>
>>Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
>>different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
>>fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
>>like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
>>enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.

Could you please share how you make an Asian style meatloaf? TIA BTW,
my mom made neither meatloaf or sloppy joes. I didn't get to taste
these mouth watering dishes until after I was married and my MIL taught
me how to make them as well as lots of other goodies.
>>
>
>
> It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
> the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
> bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
> looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
> burgers to make it safer for me to eat.

DH love bloody prime rib but I like mine a little more cooked. I now
eat my steak the way he likes it. I find it so much nicer than the way
I used to order them - well done. We eat kibby raw. I want a meat
grinder too. Time to go shopping! I'm not really sure what to look for
in a meat grinder
>
> kili
>
>

kilikini wrote:
> "salgud" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > kilikini wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Jen wrote:
> > > > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > > > >> slop on top.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > > > to try it one day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jen
> > > >
> > > > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > > > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> > > like
> > > > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
> onion,
> > > > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
> sloppy to
> > > > eat but oh so good!
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> > > kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> > > husband is in agreement!
> > >
> > > kili
> >
> > Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> > different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> > fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> > like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> > enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
> >
>
> It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
> the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
> bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
> looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
> burgers to make it safer for me to eat.
>
> kili

Hmmm. Intresting concept! Sloppy Joe tartare! Yum!

"Andy" <q> wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> nancy (starting to think I want a sloppy joe)

> nancy,
>
> I'm a sloppy joe on occasion! You sayin' yer interested??
>
> <Very Big Grin>

Well, I don't know, I'm a little leery of those people who
hang around places with giant red clothespins ... what is
up with that??

(smile) nancy

~patches~ wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
> > "salgud" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >>kilikini wrote:
> >>
> >>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >>>
> >>>>Jen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >>>>>>slop on top.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Andy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> >>>>>joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> >>>>>to try it one day.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jen
> >>>>
> >>>>It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> >>>>hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> >>>
> >>>like
> >>>
> >>>>a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
> >
> > onion,
> >
> >>>>garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
> >
> > sloppy to
> >
> >>>>eat but oh so good!
> >>>>
> >>>>Jill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> >>>kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> >>>husband is in agreement!
> >>>
> >>>kili
> >>
> >>Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> >>different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> >>fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> >>like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> >>enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
>
> Could you please share how you make an Asian style meatloaf? TIA BTW,
> my mom made neither meatloaf or sloppy joes. I didn't get to taste
> these mouth watering dishes until after I was married and my MIL taught
> me how to make them as well as lots of other goodies.
> >>
I don't have the recipe in front of me, but it's basically hamburger
with chopped garlic and scallions with the conventional ingredients,
amounts adjusted to give the right consistency for meatloaf. Then
topped with a nice thick layer of Hoison sauce before it goes into the
oven. Very different and very tasty!

notbob wrote:
> On 2005-09-22, CRCoupons.com > wrote:
> > The interesting and free article is here
> >
> > http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/
>
> OK, I'm just gonna hafta weigh in on this one:
>
> =======
>
> "Sloppy Joe
>
> H.K. Heinz in Pittsburgh says their research at the Carnegie Library
> suggests that the Sloppy Joe began in a Sioux City, Iowa, cafe as a
> "loose meat sandwich" in 1930, the creation of a cook named Joe..."
> Since ground meat, stretched as best as possible, was a staple
> throughout the depression, we will credit the creation of the sloppy
> joe to the general spirit of all people who use their imagination to
> make food taste good without cost."
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?T26B229DB
>
> ========
>
> Well, that's one take on it. All I know is I love the dang things
> and haven't had one in years.
>
> I got hooked on these free-form burgers as a kid, our grade school
> cafeteria serving them at least every other week. I can see it now. A
> square sectioned baby blue Melmac cafeteria plate holding a steaming
> Sloppy Joe, a plop of Van Camp's pork n' beans, some freshly opened fruit
> cocktail, and a flat-topped 6oz waxed carton of uncategorized milk.
> Cold and foggy outside, warm and cozy inside. Mmmmm...
>
> I suspect my love of middle TN style bbq is a direct consequence of
> those early Sloppies. I, myself, am a devout advocate of Manwich,
> which perfectly replicates those old Modesto School Disctrict gut
> bombs that so warmed my tummy and soul on cold Winter days. I
> wouldn't be a bit surprised is Manwich is just a home version of the
> same sauce sold to millions of schools. Hunt's has been around
> forever. I know one thing, tomato soup is a thousand miles away from
> what a Sloppy Joe should taste like.
>
> Guess what I'm having for dinner tonight?
>
> nb

I've got some hamburger meat thawing in the refridge for dinner
tonight, was planning on makind Sloppy Joe's. When I saw this message,
I knew, it must be those alien's again!

salgud wrote:

<snip>
> I don't have the recipe in front of me, but it's basically hamburger
> with chopped garlic and scallions with the conventional ingredients,
> amounts adjusted to give the right consistency for meatloaf. Then
> topped with a nice thick layer of Hoison sauce before it goes into the
> oven. Very different and very tasty!
>
Thanks! Hoisin sauce is my current favourite sauce so I will be sure to
give it a try. I quite often doctor up meatloaf even though the family
favourite is my regular meatloaf. The last time I made it I topped it
with sauteed onions and mushrooms then motzarella cheese. I often add
shredded carrots, zucchini, onions, and celery to meatloaf. One
variation that went over well had italian seasoning, onions, mushrooms
and an inner layer of cheddar cheese. I use extra lean ground beef for
meatloaf so like adding extras for moisture. I hate dry meatloaf!
Sometimes I use ground turkey or ground pork for a variation to beef.
The turkey one comes out nicely with a little poultry seasoning added.