Jen wrote:
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>
> Jen

It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's like
a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
eat but oh so good!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Jen wrote:
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
> > Jen
>
> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
like
> a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
> eat but oh so good!
>
> Jill
>
>

I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
husband is in agreement!

kili

On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Jen wrote:
>> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> >> slop on top.
>> >>
>> >> Andy
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
>> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
>> > to try it one day.
>> >
>> > Jen
>>
>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
>> like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
>> onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
>> sloppy to eat but oh so good!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>
> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> husband is in agreement!
>
> kili

I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't like
them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's made.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Not all people are annoying. Some are dead.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Jen wrote:
>>>>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>>>>> slop on top.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a
>>>> sloppy joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea.
>>>> I'll have to try it one day.
>>>>
>>>> Jen
>>>
>>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say
>>> it's like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato
>>> sauce. I add onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine.
>>> At any rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night
>> as a kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult.
>> Thank GOD my husband is in agreement!
>>
>> kili
>
> I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't
> like them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's
> made.

kili would eat it if the ground beef was practically raw! She just can't
stand cooked meat. She eats her burgers bloody rare.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Fri 23 Sep 2005 12:22:51a, kilikini wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >>
> >> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Jen wrote:
> >>>>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >>>>> slop on top.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a
> >>>> sloppy joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea.
> >>>> I'll have to try it one day.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jen
> >>>
> >>> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> >>> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say
> >>> it's like a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato
> >>> sauce. I add onion, garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine.
> >>> At any rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night
> >> as a kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult.
> >> Thank GOD my husband is in agreement!
> >>
> >> kili
> >
> > I'm with Jill on this one, as well as the ingredients, but I don't
> > like them too "sloppy". I also like meatloaf depending on how it's
> > made.
>
> kili would eat it if the ground beef was practically raw! She just can't
> stand cooked meat. She eats her burgers bloody rare.
>
> Jill
>
>

Yep, you got it, Jill! I won't eat any beef "cooked". It tastes dead.
It's got this "off" flavor to me that I dislike immensely. I'll eat fish
cooked, I'll eat fish raw. Pork, I like medium. Chicken, well, we all know
chicken has to be cooked. :~)

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in message
m...
snip
> Yep, you got it, Jill! I won't eat any beef "cooked". It tastes dead.
> It's got this "off" flavor to me that I dislike immensely. I'll eat fish
> cooked, I'll eat fish raw. Pork, I like medium. Chicken, well, we all
> know
> chicken has to be cooked. :~)
>
> kili
That flavor also has a smell. The flavor/smell exists for all meat that is
over cooked or cooked hard. Sorta like bad venison. Sounds like you are
more sensitive to the flavor in beef.
Janet

kilikini wrote:
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jen wrote:
> > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > >> slop on top.
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > to try it one day.
> > >
> > > Jen
> >
> > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> like
> > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
> > eat but oh so good!
> >
> > Jill
> >
> >
>
> I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> husband is in agreement!
>
> kili

Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.

"salgud" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> kilikini wrote:
> > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Jen wrote:
> > > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > > >> slop on top.
> > > >>
> > > >> Andy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > > to try it one day.
> > > >
> > > > Jen
> > >
> > > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> > like
> > > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
onion,
> > > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
sloppy to
> > > eat but oh so good!
> > >
> > > Jill
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> > kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> > husband is in agreement!
> >
> > kili
>
> Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
>

It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
burgers to make it safer for me to eat.

kili

kilikini wrote:

> "salgud" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>kilikini wrote:
>>
>>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>>>>Jen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>>>>>>slop on top.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
>>>>>joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
>>>>>to try it one day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jen
>>>>
>>>>It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
>>>>hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>>a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
>
> onion,
>
>>>>garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
>
> sloppy to
>
>>>>eat but oh so good!
>>>>
>>>>Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
>>>kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
>>>husband is in agreement!
>>>
>>>kili
>>
>>Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
>>different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
>>fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
>>like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
>>enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.

Could you please share how you make an Asian style meatloaf? TIA BTW,
my mom made neither meatloaf or sloppy joes. I didn't get to taste
these mouth watering dishes until after I was married and my MIL taught
me how to make them as well as lots of other goodies.
>>
>
>
> It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
> the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
> bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
> looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
> burgers to make it safer for me to eat.

DH love bloody prime rib but I like mine a little more cooked. I now
eat my steak the way he likes it. I find it so much nicer than the way
I used to order them - well done. We eat kibby raw. I want a meat
grinder too. Time to go shopping! I'm not really sure what to look for
in a meat grinder
>
> kili
>
>

~patches~ wrote:
> kilikini wrote:
>
> > "salgud" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >>kilikini wrote:
> >>
> >>>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >>>
> >>>>Jen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >>>>>>slop on top.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Andy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> >>>>>joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> >>>>>to try it one day.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jen
> >>>>
> >>>>It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> >>>>hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> >>>
> >>>like
> >>>
> >>>>a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
> >
> > onion,
> >
> >>>>garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
> >
> > sloppy to
> >
> >>>>eat but oh so good!
> >>>>
> >>>>Jill
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> >>>kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> >>>husband is in agreement!
> >>>
> >>>kili
> >>
> >>Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> >>different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> >>fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> >>like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> >>enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
>
> Could you please share how you make an Asian style meatloaf? TIA BTW,
> my mom made neither meatloaf or sloppy joes. I didn't get to taste
> these mouth watering dishes until after I was married and my MIL taught
> me how to make them as well as lots of other goodies.
> >>
I don't have the recipe in front of me, but it's basically hamburger
with chopped garlic and scallions with the conventional ingredients,
amounts adjusted to give the right consistency for meatloaf. Then
topped with a nice thick layer of Hoison sauce before it goes into the
oven. Very different and very tasty!

salgud wrote:

<snip>
> I don't have the recipe in front of me, but it's basically hamburger
> with chopped garlic and scallions with the conventional ingredients,
> amounts adjusted to give the right consistency for meatloaf. Then
> topped with a nice thick layer of Hoison sauce before it goes into the
> oven. Very different and very tasty!
>
Thanks! Hoisin sauce is my current favourite sauce so I will be sure to
give it a try. I quite often doctor up meatloaf even though the family
favourite is my regular meatloaf. The last time I made it I topped it
with sauteed onions and mushrooms then motzarella cheese. I often add
shredded carrots, zucchini, onions, and celery to meatloaf. One
variation that went over well had italian seasoning, onions, mushrooms
and an inner layer of cheddar cheese. I use extra lean ground beef for
meatloaf so like adding extras for moisture. I hate dry meatloaf!
Sometimes I use ground turkey or ground pork for a variation to beef.
The turkey one comes out nicely with a little poultry seasoning added.

kilikini wrote:
> "salgud" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > kilikini wrote:
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Jen wrote:
> > > > >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> > > > >> slop on top.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > > > > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > > > > to try it one day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jen
> > > >
> > > > It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> > > > hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
> > > like
> > > > a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add
> onion,
> > > > garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's
> sloppy to
> > > > eat but oh so good!
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
> > > kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
> > > husband is in agreement!
> > >
> > > kili
> >
> > Did it ever occur to you to make YOUR sloppy joe and YOUR meatloaf
> > different than what you were served and HAD to eat as a kid? I make a
> > fantastic Asian style meatloaf (I love all Asian food) that is nothing
> > like what I ate as a kid. I've found that if I make it different
> > enough, it doesn't remind me of what I HAD to eat as a kid.
> >
>
> It would, but I only like beef served just about raw; which doesn't exist in
> the sloppy joe/meatloaf/roast world. My hubby and I eat steaks bloody,
> bloody rare. I even eat my hamburgers nearly raw. The hubby and I are
> looking into getting a meat grinder so we know exactly what goes into our
> burgers to make it safer for me to eat.
>
> kili

Hmmm. Intresting concept! Sloppy Joe tartare! Yum!

Mi e' parso che jmcquown abbia scritto:

> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce
> served on a hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion
> differs - some folks say it's like a southern barbeque
> sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any
> rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!

I do something similar when I spread ragout (a la bolognese) on
bread buns, just an alternative to eating it in a dish...
--
Vilco
Think Pink , Drink Rose'