The interesting and free article is here

http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

Always despised them as a kid...

On Thu 22 Sep 2005 02:23:57p, ~john wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Always despised them as a kid...
>

Thanks for sharing!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Not all people are annoying. Some are dead.

CRCoupons.com wrote:
> The interesting and free article is here
>
> http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within a
mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
a few hundred feet away. Nonetheless, the tomato sauce nearby clearly
was a different recipe from the Sloppy Joes. It was noted there were
plenty of buns in the area, so no big mystery there!
Of course, there was speculation the someone, probably the resturant
owner or cook, actually make the Sloppy Joe and put it out on the table
as a joke. But no one has ever proved this. The owner, who died in
1988, swore on his death bed that he had nothing to do with the strange
appearance of the new sandwich in his restaurant. The cook has lived in
seclusion in the Oregon woods since 1957, and has refused all attempts
at interviews, which, of course, has given rise to speculation that he
is, in fact, the culprit.
There have also been unfounded rumors that there was a tie-in with the
Bermuda Triangle, that the sandwich was actually created there by one
of the five missing airmen, then flown to Philly. There is no hard
evidence to support this claim.

salgud wrote:

> Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
> small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
> considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within
a
> mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
> a few hundred feet away.


52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or 2nd
and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.

My guess is somewhere, when some meatballs fell apart in a meat sauce,
it got slopped on a bun for no other reason than to salvage a disaster.
Somebody who had to eat it probably took a long look and said "pretty
sloppy, Joe!"

I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
on top.

Andy

>
> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
> on top.
>
> Andy



I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe is.
But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it one
day.

Jen

Jen wrote:

>>
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>
> Jen


Jen,

It's probably similar in lore to the origin of Australia's meatpie. But
WHO thought up the floater?!!! I'd like to shake their hand!!! ))

Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

Andy wrote:
> Jen wrote:
>
> >>
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
> > Jen
>
>
> Jen,
>
> It's probably similar in lore to the origin of Australia's meatpie. But
> WHO thought up the floater?!!! I'd like to shake their hand!!! ))
>
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

What's a floater?

On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:28:13 GMT, "Jen" >
wrote:

> I'll have to try it one
>day.

don't bother....just "loose meat" in a quasi tomato sauce....bun
soaked with tomate grease and then runs down your arm....and your
neighbor's arm.....across the table.....dog licks up the mess....

Ward Abbott wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 23:28:13 GMT, "Jen" >
> wrote:
>
> > I'll have to try it one
> >day.
>
> don't bother....just "loose meat" in a quasi tomato sauce....bun
> soaked with tomate grease and then runs down your arm....and your
> neighbor's arm.....across the table.....dog licks up the mess....

Isn't it amazing how people get a concept of something based on an
unpleasant experience or experiences, then translate that into an
absolute and generalize the absolute?!

Jen wrote:
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>
> Jen

It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's like
a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
eat but oh so good!

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> Jen wrote:
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
> > Jen
>
> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce served on a
> hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion differs - some folks say it's
like
> a southern barbeque sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any rate, it's sloppy to
> eat but oh so good!
>
> Jill
>
>

I disagree; I never liked those things and dreaded sloppy joe night as a
kid. Just like meatloaf; I won't make it now as an adult. Thank GOD my
husband is in agreement!

kili

Mi e' parso che jmcquown abbia scritto:

> It's a sandwich made with cooked ground beef in a sauce
> served on a hamburger bun. Now here's where opinion
> differs - some folks say it's like a southern barbeque
> sauce. I maintain it's a tomato sauce. I add onion,
> garlic, bell pepper and chili spices to mine. At any
> rate, it's sloppy to eat but oh so good!

I do something similar when I spread ragout (a la bolognese) on
bread buns, just an alternative to eating it in a dish...
--
Vilco
Think Pink , Drink Rose'

"Jen" > wrote in
:

>>
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
>> slop on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> to try it one day.
>

I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a foodstuff,
because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though I'm not sure if
the term is used throughout the entire country) a sloppy joe is a fleecy
top, like a sweatshirt.

The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of the
TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about spending
the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was that I'd never
seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out that it was actually
the dish she was talking about.

I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.

Rhonda Anderson
Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

"Rhonda Anderson" > wrote in message
.5...
> "Jen" > wrote in
> :
>
> >>
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then
> >> slop on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy
> > joe is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have
> > to try it one day.
> >
>
> I always find it funny that the term "sloppy joe" refers to a foodstuff,
> because to me (and plenty of other Australians - though I'm not sure if
> the term is used throughout the entire country) a sloppy joe is a fleecy
> top, like a sweatshirt.
>
> The first time I heard the term used for a food was on an episode of the
> TV show Roseanne. The Roseanne character said something about spending
> the whole day making sloppy joes, and my first thought was that I'd never
> seen her sewing on the show <g>. It then turned out that it was actually
> the dish she was talking about.
>
> I suppose a sloppy joe would be a cousin to savoury mince on toast.
>
> Rhonda Anderson
> Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

A sloppy joe is ground beef in a tomato sauce on a bun. It could include
green pepper, onions and spices, but it's just ............. sloppy.
Impossible to eat wearing a white shirt without getting a tomato sauce
stain. :~)

kili

"Jen" > wrote in message
...
> >
>> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
>> on top.
>>
>> Andy
>
>
>
> I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe
> is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it
> one day.
>
> Jen
Just looks like meat sauce to me. With added sugar and chemicals.

Liz

Staycalm wrote:
> "Jen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >
> >> I can only eat a sloppy joe openfaced on a bun with provalone then slop
> >> on top.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > I hate to sound really ignorant, but I don't even know what a sloppy joe
> > is. But from what I just read I get the general idea. I'll have to try it
> > one day.
> >
> > Jen
> Just looks like meat sauce to me. With added sugar and chemicals.
>
> Liz

If that's how you choose to make it, that's exactly what it is!

Andy wrote:
> salgud wrote:
>
> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in a
> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market. It's
> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger within
> a
> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce just
> > a few hundred feet away.
>
>
> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or 2nd
> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
>

So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?

salgud wrote:

>
> Andy wrote:
>> salgud wrote:
>>
>> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in
a
>> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market.
It's
>> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger
within
>> a
>> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce
just
>> > a few hundred feet away.
>>
>>
>> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or
2nd
>> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
>>
>
> So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?


Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
to dought it.

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

"Andy" <q> wrote

> salgud wrote:

>> So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?

> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
> to dought it.

I think it was a joke ... but I doubt it. (laugh)

nancy (starting to think I want a sloppy joe)

Andy wrote:
> salgud wrote:
>
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> >> salgud wrote:
> >>
> >> > Rumor has it that they just appeared one hot August day in 1946, in
> a
> >> > small Cambodian restaurant in S Philly down by 52nd and Market.
> It's
> >> > considered doubly strange because there was no known hamburger
> within
> >> a
> >> > mile of the spot where it appeared, though there was tomato sauce
> just
> >> > a few hundred feet away.
> >>
> >>
> >> 52nd and Market St. is NOT South Philly, rather West Philly. 5th or
> 2nd
> >> and Market is STILL NOT South Philly.
> >>
> >
> > So does this mean you doubt the entire story, or just the location?
>
>
> Well when things go wrong from the start, they kinda/sorta go downhill
> from there, so even as much as I enjoy a good story, I kinda/sorta tend
> to dought it.
>
> --
> Andy
> http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

You mean you doubt that it was flown in by one of the missing airmen
from the Bermuda Triangle incident?

CRCoupons.com wrote:
>
> interesting

Does The Sloppy Joe Have An Orgasm?

Interesting...

Sheldon

On 2005-09-22, CRCoupons.com > wrote:
> The interesting and free article is here
>
> http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/

OK, I'm just gonna hafta weigh in on this one:

=======

"Sloppy Joe

H.K. Heinz in Pittsburgh says their research at the Carnegie Library
suggests that the Sloppy Joe began in a Sioux City, Iowa, cafe as a
"loose meat sandwich" in 1930, the creation of a cook named Joe..."
Since ground meat, stretched as best as possible, was a staple
throughout the depression, we will credit the creation of the sloppy
joe to the general spirit of all people who use their imagination to
make food taste good without cost."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T26B229DB

========

Well, that's one take on it. All I know is I love the dang things
and haven't had one in years.

I got hooked on these free-form burgers as a kid, our grade school
cafeteria serving them at least every other week. I can see it now. A
square sectioned baby blue Melmac cafeteria plate holding a steaming
Sloppy Joe, a plop of Van Camp's pork n' beans, some freshly opened fruit
cocktail, and a flat-topped 6oz waxed carton of uncategorized milk.
Cold and foggy outside, warm and cozy inside. Mmmmm...

I suspect my love of middle TN style bbq is a direct consequence of
those early Sloppies. I, myself, am a devout advocate of Manwich,
which perfectly replicates those old Modesto School Disctrict gut
bombs that so warmed my tummy and soul on cold Winter days. I
wouldn't be a bit surprised is Manwich is just a home version of the
same sauce sold to millions of schools. Hunt's has been around
forever. I know one thing, tomato soup is a thousand miles away from
what a Sloppy Joe should taste like.

Guess what I'm having for dinner tonight?

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2005-09-22, CRCoupons.com > wrote:
> > The interesting and free article is here
> >
> > http://www.crcoupons.com/drg/0905/22/10/
>
> OK, I'm just gonna hafta weigh in on this one:
>
> =======
>
> "Sloppy Joe
>
> H.K. Heinz in Pittsburgh says their research at the Carnegie Library
> suggests that the Sloppy Joe began in a Sioux City, Iowa, cafe as a
> "loose meat sandwich" in 1930, the creation of a cook named Joe..."
> Since ground meat, stretched as best as possible, was a staple
> throughout the depression, we will credit the creation of the sloppy
> joe to the general spirit of all people who use their imagination to
> make food taste good without cost."
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?T26B229DB
>
> ========
>
> Well, that's one take on it. All I know is I love the dang things
> and haven't had one in years.
>
> I got hooked on these free-form burgers as a kid, our grade school
> cafeteria serving them at least every other week. I can see it now. A
> square sectioned baby blue Melmac cafeteria plate holding a steaming
> Sloppy Joe, a plop of Van Camp's pork n' beans, some freshly opened fruit
> cocktail, and a flat-topped 6oz waxed carton of uncategorized milk.
> Cold and foggy outside, warm and cozy inside. Mmmmm...
>
> I suspect my love of middle TN style bbq is a direct consequence of
> those early Sloppies. I, myself, am a devout advocate of Manwich,
> which perfectly replicates those old Modesto School Disctrict gut
> bombs that so warmed my tummy and soul on cold Winter days. I
> wouldn't be a bit surprised is Manwich is just a home version of the
> same sauce sold to millions of schools. Hunt's has been around
> forever. I know one thing, tomato soup is a thousand miles away from
> what a Sloppy Joe should taste like.
>
> Guess what I'm having for dinner tonight?
>
> nb

I've got some hamburger meat thawing in the refridge for dinner
tonight, was planning on makind Sloppy Joe's. When I saw this message,
I knew, it must be those alien's again!