When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
Many thanks...

Fred

"Fred" > wrote in message
...
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> etc. because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather
> cook than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a
> few bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch
> but I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> Many thanks...
>
> Fred
Here's an idea you might try.
Hunt around your house for a rectangular box (either cardboard or wooden).
I have a couple of wooden boxes that a couple of bottles of wine came in
that would do the trick. Or a box that something you bought came in that
would your amount of knives would fit into. In the box of your choice, you
can put a small kitchen towel in the bottom; then use another towel to
separate them from hitting together. This knife box will be handy (and
safe) for you to get to your knives when you set-up house-keeping.
Dee Dee

Fred wrote:

> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
> because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> Many thanks...
>
> Fred

i carry my knives around quite a bit without any toolbox or case for them
either. i wrap them up in side towels and secure the edges with rubber bands. it
works great for me. not only do i keep my blades from getting knicked up, i have
extra side towels if i need them.

In article >,
"A.C." > wrote:

> Fred wrote:
>
> > When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> > etc.
> > because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> > than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> > bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> > Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> > something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> > I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> > patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> > Many thanks...
> >
> > Fred
>
> i carry my knives around quite a bit without any toolbox or case for them
> either. i wrap them up in side towels and secure the edges with rubber bands.
> it
> works great for me. not only do i keep my blades from getting knicked up, i
> have
> extra side towels if i need them.
>
>

I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
;-)

However, a nice rolling type knife set sheath(s) can be made from
canvas. Just lay two pieces of canvas together and sew them around the
edges to make a pouch. Edging with bias tape will make it stronger, and
sew more bias tape in a strip to one side to make a tie.

Then sew seams up the middle the correct width for each knife blade.

QED. Hope this helps?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Fred wrote:
> [snip]
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?

Don't know a website, but as a starting point you might check with your
butcher shop, including the meat department of your supermarket. If
they offer knife sharpening service they may also have cardboard knife
sheaths for their customers to use when bringing knives in to be
sharpened. You could use those sheaths in conjunction with the padded
box idea, or as a template for making your own sheaths of a better
material. (Incidentally, I've never had good luck with sharpening by a
supermarket's meat department but that's a different topic.) -aem

aem wrote:
> Fred wrote:
> > [snip]
> > Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> > something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> > I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> > patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
>
> Don't know a website, but as a starting point you might check with your
> butcher shop, including the meat department of your supermarket. If
> they offer knife sharpening service they may also have cardboard knife
> sheaths for their customers to use when bringing knives in to be
> sharpened. You could use those sheaths in conjunction with the padded
> box idea, or as a template for making your own sheaths of a better
> material. (Incidentally, I've never had good luck with sharpening by a
> supermarket's meat department but that's a different topic.) -aem

The butchers I know make their own knife sleeves of ordinary corrogated
cardboard, just folded over and tied with butchers twine in a fancy
crisscross pattern. In fact I was gifted a set, a scimitar and boning
knife, in a double sleeve, a smaller sleeve tied to the larger sleeve.
These are professional butcher knives, acid etched on the blade:

"PROPERTY OF"
"F. Maturi & Sons" <--- this in script
"NEVER SOLD"

There's also an image of a butcher steeling a knife, and the black
plasitc handle is deeply embossed "MATURI".

These knives maintain the sharpest edge by far of any I own... they are
very thin (0.072" over the entire blade), obviously of some high
quality carbon tool steel alloy, layered with a mirror like stainless
steel exterior. I've owned these some 25 years and use them quite
often, especially the boning knife, but only for meat (they're the
wrong configuration for veggies)... I've never needed to sharpen them,
I just keep them well steeled.

Sheldon

Fred wrote:
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
> because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.

Seems a *** blade like you would be happier staying home.

> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?

I can't imagine needing more than one or possibly two blades for
vacation cooking... have you considered a folding knife.. outdoors
catalogs are loaded with folding field knives... try cabelas.com

Or if you insist upon traveling pansy-ass style:
http://www.shopping.cutlery.com/Forms/shopping/*ws4d-db-query-Show.ws4d?*ws4d-db-query-Show***021483***-eProducts***-***shopping(directory)***?shopping/results(S).html

http://tinyurl.com/76u6d

Mo
http://www.shopping.cutlery.com/Forms/shopping/*ws4d-db-query-Show.ws4d?*ws4d-db-query-Show***028691***-eProducts***-***shopping(directory)***.ws4d?shopping/results(S).html

http://tinyurl.com/axuca

I hope you're not the weirdo responsible for the trail of sliced up
motel toilet lids... bring a cutting board, sheesh!

Sheldon

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> "A.C." > wrote:
> > Fred wrote:
> >
> > > When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> > > etc.
> > > because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> > > than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> > > bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> > > Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> > > something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> > > I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> > > patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> > > Many thanks...
> > >
> > > Fred
> >
> > i carry my knives around quite a bit without any toolbox or case for them
> > either. i wrap them up in side towels and secure the edges with rubber bands.
> > it
> > works great for me. not only do i keep my blades from getting knicked up, i
> > have
> > extra side towels if i need them.
> >
> >
>
> I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
> ;-)

What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...

It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>

> However, a nice rolling type knife set sheath(s) can be made from
> canvas. Just lay two pieces of canvas together and sew them around the
> edges to make a pouch. Edging with bias tape will make it stronger, and
> sew more bias tape in a strip to one side to make a tie.
>
> Then sew seams up the middle the correct width for each knife blade.

Does Fred look like friggin' Betsy Ross... sheesh!

Sheldon

"Fred" > wrote in message
...

> I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone
> know of a website with patterns and materials
> recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?

I'd suggest a trip to your local restaurant supply shop; they're bound to
have some. I was just looking (longingly, I might add, 'cause I can't
justify buying one, regardless of price) at knife pouches the other day and
thinking how nifty they are.

I did buy a new saute pan, though. :P
-j

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > "A.C." > wrote:
> > > Fred wrote:
> > >
> > > > When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> > > > etc.
> > > > because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather
> > > > cook
> > > > than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> > > > bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> > > > Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> > > > something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch
> > > > but
> > > > I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> > > > patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife
> > > > carriers?
> > > > Many thanks...
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > >
> > > i carry my knives around quite a bit without any toolbox or case for them
> > > either. i wrap them up in side towels and secure the edges with rubber
> > > bands.
> > > it
> > > works great for me. not only do i keep my blades from getting knicked up,
> > > i
> > > have
> > > extra side towels if i need them.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
> > ;-)
>
> What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
>
> It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>

It's a brand name and the packaging has pictures of little yellow ducks
on it. ;-)

They sell it at Wal-mart and it's the same thing as duct tape, but comes
in a variety of colors other than silver...

Time for me to post some of my files of recneck jokes maybe? <G>
Duct tape (or duck tape) holds the universe together!

Or was that velcro?

<shrugs>

>
> > However, a nice rolling type knife set sheath(s) can be made from
> > canvas. Just lay two pieces of canvas together and sew them around the
> > edges to make a pouch. Edging with bias tape will make it stronger, and
> > sew more bias tape in a strip to one side to make a tie.
> >
> > Then sew seams up the middle the correct width for each knife blade.
>
> Does Fred look like friggin' Betsy Ross... sheesh!

Hey, I can sew, I'm sure sew can he since he asked for a pattern! <lol>

>
> Sheldon

<smooch>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

>> Then sew seams up the middle the correct width for each knife blade.
>
> Does Fred look like friggin' Betsy Ross... sheesh!


er, ...well, I don't think I look much like Betsy Ross but I wuz gonna sew
these things...

Canvas seems like the right material, but what about the blades slicing the
seams open? Is this a prob?

Betsy (aka Fred)

In article >,
"Fred" > wrote:

> >> Then sew seams up the middle the correct width for each knife blade.
> >
> > Does Fred look like friggin' Betsy Ross... sheesh!
>
>
> er, ...well, I don't think I look much like Betsy Ross but I wuz gonna sew
> these things...
>
> Canvas seems like the right material, but what about the blades slicing the
> seams open? Is this a prob?
>
> Betsy (aka Fred)
>
>

Never was for us.
Sew a close double seam. ;-)
That is how mom's original one was made.
It was army issue.

Leather, a hand punch or awl, and artificial sinew hand sewn is an
alternative, but would take a LOT more time, and it would not be
washable.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Fred wrote:

> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices,
> utensils, etc. because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens
> and I'd rather cook than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The
> condos might have a few bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife,
> so I take my own tools. Problem is always, how to pack my knives
> without damaging the blades or something else (like my hands). I'd
> like to make a folding knife pouch but I don't know how to do it
> safely. Does anyone know of a website with patterns and materials
> recommendations for these traveling knife carriers? Many thanks...
>
> Fred


I use knife sleeves (also called knife guards). You slide the blade into
the sleeve and it holds snug. Safe and easy insert and release. See:

http://www.chefdepot.net/messermeister9.htm

You can probably find them locally if you call around.

Good luck.

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

"Fred" > wrote in message
...
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> etc. because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather
> cook than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a
> few bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch
> but I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> Many thanks...
>
> Fred
>

Most kitchen supply places will have knife protectors, a hard plastic sheath
that you slip over the blade. Well worth it.


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths page at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Sheldon wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>>I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
>>;-)
>
> What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
>
> It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>

<LOL> Another howler from Shecky...

First it was called Duck tape. Then air conditioning guys started using
it. But it's still Duck tape.

Pastorio

Fred wrote:
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
> because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> Many thanks...

I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box.
There's room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry along.

Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing
off-site cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra dividers
to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to hold my
knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle, lots of
room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of stabbing
yourself through the fabric.

Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.

Pastorio

In article >,
"Fred" > wrote:


> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?


Hopefully somebody else can help you with these. I've seen them and
they're great, but unless somebody does a lot of traveling and cooking,
they seem like overkill to me.

When I was a kid, my father was very proud of his knives. He didn't
spend a lot of money on them (some came from garage sales). He even
made his own set of knives once, although it wasn't all that successful.
He kept them very sharp. He didn't use a knife block, and kept them in
a regular kitchen drawer. There are two problems with this. One is
that you could cut yourself, but more importantly, they'll lose their
edge if you let them bang around loose. So he kept them all in knife
holders which he made himself. Back then, potato chips came in
cardboard boxes. Each box would have two sealed bags of chips, so the
boxes weren't greasy. He'd take a flat piece of cardboard and fold it
in half. Use scissors to cut one edge next to the fold, to fit the
bolster of the knife. Insert the knife with the blade against the fold.
Staple the other side to make a custom holder. The staple should be
close enough to the blade so the knife can't slide around and the holder
won't fall off easily, but far enough that it is easy to insert and
remove the knife. When stapled, take the knife out and trim the holder
with the scissors.

My wife and I like to hike, and usually take a lunch. Sometimes we need
a sharp knife. My wife just wraps the blade with paper napkins and puts
a rubber band around it.

"Fred" > wrote in message
...
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils,
> etc. because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather
> cook than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a
> few bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch
> but I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?
> Many thanks...
>
> Fred
>

Any decent cooking store should carry something like the knife pouch on this
page:

http://www.wusthof.com/main.htm

Wusthoff also makes inexpensive plastic sleeves that slip over knife blades.
They're about three dollars each. I don't see them on their web site, but a
local store here always seems to have them. If you can't find them, go to
www.cooksworld.com, get the phone number, and give them a call.

Bob (this one) wrote:

> I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
> nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box.
> There's room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry
> along.
>
> Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
> I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing
> off-site cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
> hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra
> dividers to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to
> hold my knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle,
> lots of room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of
> stabbing yourself through the fabric.
>
> Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
> cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
> pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
> tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.


Gimmeabreak!

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> >>I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
> >>;-)
> >
> > What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
> >
> > It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>
>
> <LOL> Another howler from Shecky...
>
> First it was called Duck tape. Then air conditioning guys started using
> it. But it's still Duck tape.
>
> Pastorio

;-D
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> >>I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
> >>;-)
> >
> > What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
> >
> > It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>
>
> <LOL> Another howler from Shecky...
>
> First it was called Duck tape. Then air conditioning guys started using
> it. But it's still Duck tape.

Well, as much as I hate to say this when Sheldon's involved -
you're actually BOTH right. DUCK tape is a brand; see

http://www.ducktapeclub.com/world/

Now, the nice people at Duck DID originate a type of adhesive
tape which used cotton duck (a fairly heavy, most often treated
to be "waterproof," fabric ) as the base material. And then, an
aluminized (and therefore more heat-resistant) version of that tape
became common in the heating industry, to cover joints in DUCTwork.
But not all duct tape is from Duck, and not all Duck tape is duct
tape.

Bob M.

Andy wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote:
>
>
>>I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
>>nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box.
>>There's room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry
>>along.
>>
>>Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
>>I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing
>>off-site cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
>>hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra
>>dividers to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to
>>hold my knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle,
>>lots of room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of
>>stabbing yourself through the fabric.
>>
>>Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
>>cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
>>pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
>>tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.
>
>
>
> Gimmeabreak!

Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue and
subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex for you?
Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't heard of the
tools mentioned?

What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately want to know.

No, seriously...

Pastorio

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...
> Andy wrote:
>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
>>>nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box. There's
>>>room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry
>>>along.
>>>Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
>>>I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing off-site
>>>cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
>>>hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra
>>>dividers to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to
>>>hold my knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle,
>>>lots of room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of
>>>stabbing yourself through the fabric.
>>>
>>>Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
>>>cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
>>>pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
>>>tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gimmeabreak!
>
> Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue and
> subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex for you?
> Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't heard of the
> tools mentioned?
>
> What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately want to
> know.
>
> No, seriously...
>
> Pastorio

I think his profound message is that the OP is talking about taking a few
knives on vacation, while you're talking about all the tools you need for
working in a restaurant. So, you're not addressing the question upon which
this thread is based. The OP is not going to take the tools you mentioned.

Bob Myers wrote:
> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
>>>>;-)
>>>
>>>What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
>>>
>>>It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>
>>
>><LOL> Another howler from Shecky...
>>
>>First it was called Duck tape. Then air conditioning guys started using
>>it. But it's still Duck tape.
>
> Well, as much as I hate to say this when Sheldon's involved -
> you're actually BOTH right. DUCK tape is a brand; see
>
> http://www.ducktapeclub.com/world/
>
> Now, the nice people at Duck DID originate a type of adhesive
> tape which used cotton duck (a fairly heavy, most often treated
> to be "waterproof," fabric ) as the base material. And then, an
> aluminized (and therefore more heat-resistant) version of that tape
> became common in the heating industry, to cover joints in DUCTwork.
> But not all duct tape is from Duck, and not all Duck tape is duct
> tape.

Duck tape was invented in New Jersey, right near where I grew up. It was
a Permacel (the name is spelled wrong on the web page) product and an
outgrowth of the same research that began with medical adhesive tape,
and progressed through masking tape. Same people. A Johnson & Johnson
company, like so many others around there.

During WWII, it was available in the central Jersey area and was used
for all sorts of things, like it is now. It came in green and, for a
while, black. The military called it duck tape, and it was very much in
evidence in Camp Kilmer, N.J. to do all sorts of mending. And for me to
play with since my father worked there during and after the war.

Duct tape was a later product, with the commonly seen gray backing. As
was a variant still called "gaffer tape." Aluminized duct tape actually
has a foil layer, and isn't the same as the stuff sold as "Duct tape."
It's sold as "Aluminized Duct Tape" or "Foil Duct Tape." They're
different; variations on a theme.

Pastorio

In article >,
"Bob Myers" > wrote:

> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > >
> > >>I make blade sheaths for camping out of heavy cardboard and duck tape.
> > >>;-)
> > >
> > > What the heck is "duck" tape... tape with friggin' webbed feet...
> > >
> > > It's *DUCT* tape, you red necked QUACK! <G>
> >
> > <LOL> Another howler from Shecky...
> >
> > First it was called Duck tape. Then air conditioning guys started using
> > it. But it's still Duck tape.
>
> Well, as much as I hate to say this when Sheldon's involved -
> you're actually BOTH right. DUCK tape is a brand; see
>
> http://www.ducktapeclub.com/world/
>
> Now, the nice people at Duck DID originate a type of adhesive
> tape which used cotton duck (a fairly heavy, most often treated
> to be "waterproof," fabric ) as the base material. And then, an
> aluminized (and therefore more heat-resistant) version of that tape
> became common in the heating industry, to cover joints in DUCTwork.
> But not all duct tape is from Duck, and not all Duck tape is duct
> tape.
>
> Bob M.
>
>

That's what I told Sheldon.
Duck sells it in colors other than silver.
Which is nice.
I get it at Wal-mart. :-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> Andy wrote:
> > Bob (this one) wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
> >>nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box.
> >>There's room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry
> >>along.
> >>
> >>Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
> >>I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing
> >>off-site cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
> >>hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra
> >>dividers to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to
> >>hold my knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle,
> >>lots of room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of
> >>stabbing yourself through the fabric.
> >>
> >>Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
> >>cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
> >>pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
> >>tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gimmeabreak!
>
> Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue and
> subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex for you?
> Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't heard of the
> tools mentioned?
>
> What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately want to know.
>
> No, seriously...
>
> Pastorio

I think he was wondering why you'd want to take all that stuff camping
with you. ;-)

I thought it was a cool idea personally.
I need to overhaul (replace) my kitchen camping bag
and this is a neat idea for an addition to it.

Thanks!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Doug Kanter" > wrote:

> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Andy wrote:
> >> Bob (this one) wrote:

> >>>I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
> >>>nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box. There's
> >>>room for knives and any other tools you might like to carry
> >>>along.
> >>>Knives should be one to a compartment so blades don't bump each other.
> >>>I've used them for my own tools in my restaurants and when doing off-site
> >>>cooking. I made bags to fit against them with bungee cords to
> >>>hold a couple cutting boards. Most tackle boxes come with extra
> >>>dividers to make more compartments. I've notched them and used them to
> >>>hold my knives into position so they don't bump around. One handle,
> >>>lots of room, no sewing, no need to buy or make sheaths, no danger of
> >>>stabbing yourself through the fabric.
> >>>
> >>>Beyond knives (nine of them), I have pastry tips and bags, canape
> >>>cutters, dough docker, sharpeners (ceramic and diamond), can opener,
> >>>pepper mill, culinary syringe, and various other small tools. Makes a
> >>>tidy package, and they're relatively cheap.

> >> Gimmeabreak!

> > Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue and
> > subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex for you?
> > Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't heard of the
> > tools mentioned?
> >
> > What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately want to
> > know.


I didn't understand either, but I was too polite to ask.

:-)



> I think his profound message is that the OP is talking about taking a few
> knives on vacation, while you're talking about all the tools you need for
> working in a restaurant. So, you're not addressing the question upon which
> this thread is based. The OP is not going to take the tools you mentioned.

That's how newsgroups are. You ask a question, and somebody answers a
different question. I do that all the time. A long time ago, I read
estimates that 50,000 read this group (that's right, four zeroes). Why
on earth would somebody post something only aimed at one person? If
somebody wants personal advice, they need to hire a consultant. You
don't get personal advice on newsgroups. I thought Bob provided a real
service, both to the OP and to a whole lot of others.

I have some *other* advice that neither Bob nor the OP wanted. Take a
look at cheap toolboxes from the hardware store.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote

> I think he was wondering why you'd want to take all that stuff camping
> with you. ;-)
>
> I thought it was a cool idea personally.
> I need to overhaul (replace) my kitchen camping bag
> and this is a neat idea for an addition to it.

Heh, I thought it was like my tailgate kit.

nancy

Dan Abel wrote:
> In article >, "Doug Kanter"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> Andy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bob (this one) wrote:
>
>>>>> I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go
>>>>> to your nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap
>>>>> tackle box. There's room for knives and any other tools you
>>>>> might like to carry along.

>>>> Gimmeabreak!

>>> Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue
>>> and subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex
>>> for you? Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't
>>> heard of the tools mentioned?
>>>
>>> What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately
>>> want to know.
>
> I didn't understand either, but I was too polite to ask.
>
> :-)
>
>> I think his profound message is that the OP is talking about taking
>> a few knives on vacation, while you're talking about all the tools
>> you need for working in a restaurant. So, you're not addressing the
>> question upon which this thread is based. The OP is not going to
>> take the tools you mentioned.

One of the glorious things about this country and so many others is that
if you don't want to take a pepper mill camping, you don't have to.
Amazing, no...?

> That's how newsgroups are. You ask a question, and somebody answers
> a different question. I do that all the time. A long time ago, I
> read estimates that 50,000 read this group (that's right, four
> zeroes). Why on earth would somebody post something only aimed at
> one person? If somebody wants personal advice, they need to hire a
> consultant. You don't get personal advice on newsgroups. I thought
> Bob provided a real service, both to the OP and to a whole lot of
> others.
>
> I have some *other* advice that neither Bob nor the OP wanted. Take
> a look at cheap toolboxes from the hardware store.

Sure. I gave my granddaughter one when she went off to culinary school.
Bright red damn thing. No one was going to mistake it. Dipped all the
handles to her tools in that rubbery stuff for coating tool handles;
pliers and the like. Bright red.

Anything that gets the job done is the right thing.

Pastorio

Doug Kanter wrote:

> I think his profound message is that the OP is talking about taking a
> few knives on vacation, while you're talking about all the tools you
> need for working in a restaurant. So, you're not addressing the
> question upon which this thread is based. The OP is not going to take
> the tools you mentioned.

Here's a wildly dazzling thought... buy a *small* tackle box and just
put in the ones he will take. Zowie, huh...? Or one of those
compartmented plastic boxes also used from craft supplies. Or maybe one
from Home Depot used for nuts and bolts.

And how about this for looking at it backwards... take more than you
think you'll need, just in case. Never know that you might drop a knife
overboard or break the blade struggling with a grizzly, then how will
you cut that jerky?

Oh, man. I have to lie down now with all that heavy cogitating. I mean
it's even more than the whole U.N. thought about today. And our House
and Senate (but that's normal).

Wake me when it all becomes obvious...

Pastorio

Fred wrote:
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
> because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it.

Well there you go, a folding knife. DUH!

Sheldon Machette Martin

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:


> One of the glorious things about this country and so many others is that
> if you don't want to take a pepper mill camping, you don't have to.
> Amazing, no...?


Absolute heresy, I say.


Ok, so I'm anal.


I go camping, and stop at the supermarket for food. I want some salt
and pepper. They want to gouge me big time. The little "camping" S&P
sets are major money for very little. Individual salt and pepper are
way too big, and too much money. But I just can't handle it. A pound
of salt is like 10% of the price for a little cardboard salt shaker, so
I buy it. It doesn't have a shaker thing, but I just open the spout,
pour some into the palm of my hand, grab a pinch, dump it in and throw
the rest on the ground. The pepper is painful, but lo and behold, they
have a complete pepper grinder for not much more. It's plastic, and
doesn't look to be refillable, but what the heck. So, I'm a happy
camper.

Bob (this one) wrote:

> Andy wrote:

>> Gimmeabreak!
>
> Sure. What does your fully developed missive, replete with hue and
> subtlety mean? Does it mean that you think it's too complex for you?
> Perhaps too heavy to carry? Could it be that you haven't heard of the
> tools mentioned?
>
> What is the profound message you're offering...? I desperately want to
> know.
>
> No, seriously...
>
> Pastorio


Knife sleeves protect knives and people at home, in transit and at
vacation destinations.

A tacklebox does the transit part OK but not the home or destination
parts. Folks aren't going to work out of a tacklebox in the condo's
kitchen for the duration of the stay.

My suggestion is a tad more practical and beneficial.

Imho,

Andy

"Bob (this one)" > wrote in message
...

> Duct tape was a later product, with the commonly seen gray backing. As
> was a variant still called "gaffer tape."

Yup - when I kicked around with sound guys/roadies/rehearsal and recording
studios etc. everything had 'gaffer tape' on it. Didn't matter if it wasn't
gaffer tape, it was - that tape was def. the gaffer.







Shaun aRe

"Dan Abel" > wrote in message
...

> Why
> on earth would somebody post something only aimed at one person?

Because the OP was looking for suggestions for a specific set of tools, and
a specific place those tools needed to be carried.

If you go to rec.guns and ask "I need a secure way to carry a handgun in my
car, knowing that if I go shopping, it won't be stolen from the car", and
someone gives you links to gun vaults bigger than your refrigerator, what
would your response be?

Andy wrote:

> Knife sleeves protect knives and people at home, in transit and at
> vacation destinations.

Right. Plastic boxes wouldn't protect the people. Right. Got it.

> A tacklebox does the transit part OK but not the home or destination
> parts.

Right. Especially if they stupidly take the the knives out of the box.
Dopes. Kids today, huh...?

> Folks aren't going to work out of a tacklebox in the condo's kitchen
> for the duration of the stay.

"Folks..." Now you speak for everyone?

So where are the knives when they're not in use? Back in the sleeves?
Maybe stored in some drawer? How silly.

> My suggestion is a tad more practical and beneficial.

This is the silliest series of non-justifications I've seen. Be better
if you had simply said, "I prefer sleeves" and not try to make it seem
like wisdom. Because it isn't.

The tackle box is faster packing and unpacking. What's the difference if
the knives are transported in a tackle box that protects them with *no*
effort beyond putting them into already existing slots and wrapping the
knives individually and unwrapping them at the condo and then rewrapping
them for the return trip home and unwrapping them...

And it doesn't have to be a tackle box, remember? Could be a small
crafts box. Or a great honking toolbox.

What's the big deal effort involved at the condo - and how are the
knives being stored while there? The practicality is about how to use
the time. And it seems to me that playing with knives and their
transport system is a waste of time. Faster is better. Use the knife,
wipe it, back in the box (whichever kind) and done. Or remove knife from
sleeve, put sleeve in drawer, use knife, wipe knife, retrieve sleeve,
put on knife, put knife in drawer.

Chacun a son gout...

And all this information contained in "Gimme a break." What clarity.
Depth. Richness.

Pastorio

Bob (this one) wrote:

> Andy wrote:
>
>> Knife sleeves protect knives and people at home, in transit and at
>> vacation destinations.
>
> Right. Plastic boxes wouldn't protect the people. Right. Got it.
>
>> A tacklebox does the transit part OK but not the home or destination
>> parts.
>
> Right. Especially if they stupidly take the the knives out of the box.
> Dopes. Kids today, huh...?
>
>> Folks aren't going to work out of a tacklebox in the condo's kitchen
>> for the duration of the stay.
>
> "Folks..." Now you speak for everyone?
>
> So where are the knives when they're not in use? Back in the sleeves?
> Maybe stored in some drawer? How silly.
>
>> My suggestion is a tad more practical and beneficial.
>
> This is the silliest series of non-justifications I've seen. Be better
> if you had simply said, "I prefer sleeves" and not try to make it seem
> like wisdom. Because it isn't.
>
> The tackle box is faster packing and unpacking. What's the difference
if
> the knives are transported in a tackle box that protects them with
*no*
> effort beyond putting them into already existing slots and wrapping
the
> knives individually and unwrapping them at the condo and then
rewrapping
> them for the return trip home and unwrapping them...
>
> And it doesn't have to be a tackle box, remember? Could be a small
> crafts box. Or a great honking toolbox.
>
> What's the big deal effort involved at the condo - and how are the
> knives being stored while there? The practicality is about how to use
> the time. And it seems to me that playing with knives and their
> transport system is a waste of time. Faster is better. Use the knife,
> wipe it, back in the box (whichever kind) and done. Or remove knife
from
> sleeve, put sleeve in drawer, use knife, wipe knife, retrieve sleeve,
> put on knife, put knife in drawer.
>
> Chacun a son gout...
>
> And all this information contained in "Gimme a break." What clarity.
> Depth. Richness.
>
> Pastorio


Life is short. You win.

--
Andy
http://tinyurl.com/dzl7h

"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> I read all the answers and everybody's working too hard. Go to your
> nearest sporting goods store and buy yourself a cheap tackle box.

Great idea. Thanks.

Fred wrote:
> When we leave for vacation I usually pack up a box of spices, utensils, etc.
> because we stay in condos or apartments with kitchens and I'd rather cook
> than eat in most toruist-area restaurants. The condos might have a few
> bargain-store pots and a dull butcher knife, so I take my own tools.
> Problem is always, how to pack my knives without damaging the blades or
> something else (like my hands). I'd like to make a folding knife pouch but
> I don't know how to do it safely. Does anyone know of a website with
> patterns and materials recommendations for these traveling knife carriers?

Go to cabelas.com and search <gun cases>... probably more than 20
suitable for knifes as well... the same foam lined cases that protect
expensive firearms will likewise protect kitchen cutlery... could
probably easily make one yourself from a cheap attache case lined with
foam. I own many plastic tool/tackle boxes, more than a dozen of all
types and sizes... NONE but the bulkiest will accomodate kitchen
knives... and still bare-bladed knives need to be individually
sheathed... I mean like only a total imbecile would toss unprotected
cutlery into a tool box to rattle about, like they were a fistful of
screw drivers. duh Even quality screw drivers need to be protected
from banging against each other.

Of course were I needing a knife case for transport I'd buy a knife
case for transport, like the ones from PCD.com that I indicated in my
other post... otherwise I'd simply roll mine up in the sunday ny times
and slip on a few rubbers... hehe

Sheldon

If you are handy with leather and have the punch and some good thread,
make your own.

Otherwise I'd look for knife safes/sheaths:

http://www.cutleryandmore.com/lamson...m?FamilyBD=106
or
http://tinyurl.com/bc68p

for example. I've used them since I bought my most recent blades, and
they are wonderful, if a bit bulky.

maxine in ri