I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality and
service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what they
get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to everyone
from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even though
I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it still
continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:05:54 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> wrote:

>I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality and
>service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what they
>get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to everyone
>from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even though
>I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it still
>continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.

How do you know it was them?

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:20:42 GMT, (Curly
Sue) wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:05:54 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> wrote:
>
>>I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality and
>>service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what they
>>get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to everyone
>>from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even though
>>I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>>phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it still
>>continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>
>How do you know it was them?
>
>Sue(tm)


I do not know about the original poster, but I often use a variation
of my name when I order from a place the first time. I can then trace
where they sell their list.

Boron

The cancer charity used a numeric designator (included in the address on
their solicitaton) to track where they got the name and address - I called
them, they kindly did some digging, and they told me it was H&D. The
wine-by-mail people told me that they either got my name from someone I
bought cheese from, or H&D - I've never bought cheese besides at a grocery
store, so it had to be H&D.

BTW, after repeated requests to cease and desist, I still get catalogs from
them - the next one will get mailed back attached to a large box of rocks.

Think they'll get the message?

"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:05:54 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> > wrote:
>
>>I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality
>>and
>>service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what
>>they
>>get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to
>>everyone
>>from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even
>>though
>>I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>>phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it
>>still
>>continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>
> How do you know it was them?
>
> Sue(tm)
> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:37:23 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> wrote:

>The cancer charity used a numeric designator (included in the address on
>their solicitaton) to track where they got the name and address - I called
>them, they kindly did some digging, and they told me it was H&D. The
>wine-by-mail people told me that they either got my name from someone I
>bought cheese from, or H&D - I've never bought cheese besides at a grocery
>store, so it had to be H&D.
>
>BTW, after repeated requests to cease and desist, I still get catalogs from
>them - the next one will get mailed back attached to a large box of rocks.
>
>Think they'll get the message?

I don't know about them, but I did! Thanks for the warning.



>"Curly Sue" > wrote in message
...
>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:05:54 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality
>>>and
>>>service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what
>>>they
>>>get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to
>>>everyone
>>>from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even
>>>though
>>>I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>>>phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it
>>>still
>>>continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>>
>> How do you know it was them?
>>
>> Sue(tm)
>> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!
>
>

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Texas Yankee wrote on October 14, 2005:

<snip>

> ...I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what they
> get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to everyone
> from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even though
> I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
> phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it still
> continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.

Why don't you file a complaint with the FTC? I'm sure they'd love
to take a shot at a high visibility net retailer. I assume you opted
out at the time you placed your order or created your account. I don't
know what the rule is if you opt out at a later date, like after you
start getting the mailers from the other vendors.

"Boron Elgar" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:20:42 GMT, (Curly
> Sue) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:05:54 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality
>>>and
>>>service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what
>>>they
>>>get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to
>>>everyone
>>>from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even
>>>though
>>>I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>>>phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it
>>>still
>>>continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>>
>>How do you know it was them?
>>
>>Sue(tm)
>
>
> I do not know about the original poster, but I often use a variation
> of my name when I order from a place the first time. I can then trace
> where they sell their list.
>
> Boron

I find it difficult to give anything other than my name when I order,
because I don't know how to send any money, only cc.
Dee Dee

Curly Sue wrote:
> "Texas Yankee" wrote:
>
> >I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality and
> >service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what they
> >get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to everyone
> >from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even though
> >I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
> >phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it still
> >continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>
> How do you know it was them?

Might have been them but she doesn't know for sure... this often
happens when an oder is placed on line and you forget to un-check that
little box that grants permission to add your name to receive other
offers, and often that box appears more than once during the check out
process, so you need to keep an eye out for it on each page... once you
set this feature in motion it's nearly impossible to stop, because the
mail order company rep you speak to by phone has no way to access that
information, because as soon as you click to complete your order your
name and mailing address is instantly batch emailed to a zillion other
mail order companys. And it matters not they don't have your correct
name, obviously all they need is your correct mailing address, and
obviously if you're receiveing the catalogs they do. And btw, this can
also occur because most of the major carriers (other than the USPS)
also harvest addies to sell to marketing companys, and often they're
not actually sold directly, it's a reciprical accomodation for using
that particular carrier, of course at discount.

Anyway, I think Harry & David suck (probably both figuratively and
literally).
I can buy just as good produce (if not better) at the local market at
about 1/10 the price... I often receive their products as gifts. My
dentist sends all his customers a box of their pears every Christmas,
those pears are very ordinary, not even ripe, they're hard as rocks,
gotta let em ripen same as any others... and I kinda feel uncomfortable
eating pears what cost $36/doz + shipping.

I make a lot of mail order purchases. I know they pass my name to
other mail order companys, even though they claim they don't. But I
really don't give a rat's B-hind. Some of the catalogs I'd otherwise
not receive I find interesting. What I do to stop those catalogs I
don't want from continuing is to wait until a few weeks past Christmas
and then call the individual catalog companys and ask that they remove
my name, they always do. I don't try to figure out who set the ball in
motion, they can't do anything anyway... gotta call the company direct
whose catalog you need to stop.

In fact when I moved I needed to do the same thing in reverse, I made
up a list of all catalogs I wanted and then called them all to give
them my new address... actually I simply created a file to place the
center insert with all the contact info from each catalog.

Btw, whenever you discard a catalog make sure to shred the portion with
your name and address, including that center insert... today's catalogs
often contain a customer number too... a word to the wise.

Sheldon

"Texas Yankee" > wrote

> I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality
> and
> service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what
> they
> get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to
> everyone
> from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even
> though
> I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
> phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it
> still
> continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.

I had the identical experience, I really liked their stuff blah blah blah,
but they
filled my mailbox with 8 gazillion other food catalogs and that made me a
little
****ed off. Hey, I know it goes on, they sell your address, but come on!!
I knew it was them because they misspelled my name and so did all the
mail that followed. I stopped doing business with them.

nancy

My order was placed via phone, so there wasn't any opt out capability.

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Curly Sue wrote:
>> "Texas Yankee" wrote:
>>
>> >I've made several purchases from H&D - expensive, but excellent quality
>> >and
>> >service - I was very disappointed that these guys, especially with what
>> >they
>> >get for their products, still needed to sell my name and address to
>> >everyone
>> >from cancer charities, wine-by-mail catalogs, you name it - and even
>> >though
>> >I've opted out on their web site, cancelled my account, and made several
>> >phone calls to them politely asking that the stop selling my name, it
>> >still
>> >continues - my business must not have been worth much to them.
>>
>> How do you know it was them?
>
> Might have been them but she doesn't know for sure... this often
> happens when an oder is placed on line and you forget to un-check that
> little box that grants permission to add your name to receive other
> offers, and often that box appears more than once during the check out
> process, so you need to keep an eye out for it on each page... once you
> set this feature in motion it's nearly impossible to stop, because the
> mail order company rep you speak to by phone has no way to access that
> information, because as soon as you click to complete your order your
> name and mailing address is instantly batch emailed to a zillion other
> mail order companys. And it matters not they don't have your correct
> name, obviously all they need is your correct mailing address, and
> obviously if you're receiveing the catalogs they do. And btw, this can
> also occur because most of the major carriers (other than the USPS)
> also harvest addies to sell to marketing companys, and often they're
> not actually sold directly, it's a reciprical accomodation for using
> that particular carrier, of course at discount.
>
> Anyway, I think Harry & David suck (probably both figuratively and
> literally).
> I can buy just as good produce (if not better) at the local market at
> about 1/10 the price... I often receive their products as gifts. My
> dentist sends all his customers a box of their pears every Christmas,
> those pears are very ordinary, not even ripe, they're hard as rocks,
> gotta let em ripen same as any others... and I kinda feel uncomfortable
> eating pears what cost $36/doz + shipping.
>
> I make a lot of mail order purchases. I know they pass my name to
> other mail order companys, even though they claim they don't. But I
> really don't give a rat's B-hind. Some of the catalogs I'd otherwise
> not receive I find interesting. What I do to stop those catalogs I
> don't want from continuing is to wait until a few weeks past Christmas
> and then call the individual catalog companys and ask that they remove
> my name, they always do. I don't try to figure out who set the ball in
> motion, they can't do anything anyway... gotta call the company direct
> whose catalog you need to stop.
>
> In fact when I moved I needed to do the same thing in reverse, I made
> up a list of all catalogs I wanted and then called them all to give
> them my new address... actually I simply created a file to place the
> center insert with all the contact info from each catalog.
>
> Btw, whenever you discard a catalog make sure to shred the portion with
> your name and address, including that center insert... today's catalogs
> often contain a customer number too... a word to the wise.
>
> Sheldon
>

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:54:24 -0500, "Texas Yankee"
> wrote:

>My order was placed via phone, so there wasn't any opt out capability.
>

Most companies will do so if you ask. You just have to tell the rep
and remind them before you hang up.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!