If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?

James wrote:
> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?

Amanita virosa... hey, it's almost Halloween! heheheh

Small scale mushroom growing is really not a viable culinary venture...
right up there with raising Sea Monkeys. You'd be far better off
maintaining a selection of dehydrated mushrooms in your larder, and
then purchasing fresh as the various types become available at your
local markets.... otherwise purchasing the common button mushroom is
your best bet as it's always available and very reasonably priced,
especially economical in larger amounts... on Lung Guyland I used to
purchase them at the Latino market in five pound lugs at about $6-$7...
no way could you expect a reliable supply of even miniscule amounts
from a home project. I've bought mushroom growing kits but that turned
out more of a for-fun project, like maintaining an ant farm. If you're
very lucky you will see a few measly looking 'shrooms... those kits are
more of a kiddy science project.

If you're considering a large scale mushroom business be prepared for a
lot of horseshit.

Sheldon Destroying Angel

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
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>
snip I've bought mushroom growing kits but that turned
> out more of a for-fun project, like maintaining an ant farm. If you're
> very lucky you will see a few measly looking 'shrooms... those kits are
> more of a kiddy science project.
snip
> Sheldon
Thanks, Sheldon, You're right. That will make an excellent Christmas
present for a curious young grandson.
Janet

Janet Bostwick wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
> >
> snip I've bought mushroom growing kits but that turned
> > out more of a for-fun project, like maintaining an ant farm. If you're
> > very lucky you will see a few measly looking 'shrooms... those kits are
> > more of a kiddy science project.
> snip
> >
> Thanks, Sheldon, You're right. That will make an excellent Christmas
> present for a curious young grandson.

So long as he's not curious enough to smoke them.

Of course he's never to young for a peeping tom telescope kit. hehe

Go he http://scientificsonline.com

Sheldon AC Gilbert

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._C._Gilbert_Company

"James" > ha scritto nel messaggio
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> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?

I don't think you can plant Boletus.
Pandora
>

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
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>
snip>
> Of course he's never to young for a peeping tom telescope kit. hehe
>
> Go he http://scientificsonline.com
>
> Sheldon AC Gilbert
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._C._Gilbert_Company
>
Hey! Thanks for that link. I've been looking for stuff like that for a
year now. However, he is too young for the peeping Tom kit as he's only 5.
Janet

James > wrote:

> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?

Well, were it possible, I'd grow black Périgord truffles (Tuber
melanosporum), white Alba truffles (Tuber magnatum), cèpes/porcini
(Boletus edulis), European chanterelles (Cantharellus cibarius), morels
(Morchella), orange-cap boletus (Boletus aurantiacus), and brown-cap
boletus (Boletus scaber).

Victor

"James" > wrote in message
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> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>
Cremini or portobello

MoM

> "James" > wrote in message
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>
>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>

Chanterelles.

gloria p

In article .com>,
"James" > wrote:

> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>

Oyster to start.
They eat wood shavings and paper, and are easy to grow.

A good "beginner" mushroom.

Go he

http://www.fungiperfecti.com/kits/index.html

Cheers!
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article om>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> James wrote:
> > If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>
> Amanita virosa... hey, it's almost Halloween! heheheh
>
> Small scale mushroom growing is really not a viable culinary venture...
> right up there with raising Sea Monkeys.

I hatch "sea monkeys" (aka Brine Shrimps) to feed my pet Betta. ;-)

Brine water: 1 tsp. sea salt per 1 cup of purified water.

And if you are going to attempt to cultivate Amanita, they are a
symbiont with certain types of conifers, and A. muscaria is better.....

Cheers!
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
Bubbabob > wrote:

> "James" > wrote:
>
> > If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >
>
> Psilocybe Cubensis

Psilocybe azurensis...
It's another wood consumer. ;-)
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article
>,
Puester > wrote:

> > "James" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >
>
> Chanterelles.
>
> gloria p

You wish. ;-)

I think that one is another tree symbiont?
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Bubbabob wrote:
> "James" > wrote:
>
>
>>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>>
>
>
> Psilocybe Cubensis


And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.



j

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Bubbabob > wrote:
>
>
>>"James" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>>>
>>
>>Psilocybe Cubensis
>
>
> Psilocybe azurensis...
> It's another wood consumer. ;-)

If you want to earn points with Bubba the druggie (aiming for his/her
pants?) you should spell it right - it's Psilocybe Azurescens - as
determined by 0.02 seconds of web searching. Try again bonehead.

j

JohnHancock wrote:
>
> And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
> druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
> like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.
>
It's not surprising that the group would include people who use drugs.
Just as it's not surprising that there are others who think "real life"
and "normal" are defined by legislatures. It takes all kinds. -aem

In article <eQB6f.13657$MN6.9625@fed1read04>,
JohnHancock > wrote:

> Bubbabob wrote:
> > "James" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Psilocybe Cubensis
>
>
> And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
> druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
> like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.
>
>
>
> j

Psychedelics/Hallucinogens are not addictive...

Do some research please before you shoot off your mouth.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article .com>,
"aem" > wrote:

> JohnHancock wrote:
> >
> > And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
> > druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
> > like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.
> >
> It's not surprising that the group would include people who use drugs.
> Just as it's not surprising that there are others who think "real life"
> and "normal" are defined by legislatures. It takes all kinds. -aem
>

<applause!!!>
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
them to grow.

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article
> >,
> Puester > wrote:
>
>
>>>"James" > wrote in message
egroups.com...
>>>
>>>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>>>
>>
>>Chanterelles.
>>
>>gloria p
>
>
> You wish. ;-)
>
> I think that one is another tree symbiont?

In article >,
Jim Davis > wrote:

> I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
> mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
> easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
> enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
> and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
> like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
> mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
> them to grow.
>

Seriously. Join the list alt.nature.mushrooms

I will crosspost this to them for you. :-)

Cheers!
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Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 11:19:02 -0700, Jim Davis
> wrote:

>I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
>mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
>easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
>enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
>and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
>like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
>mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
>them to grow.

If by 'king boletes' you mean cepes or porcini they don't need
anything to jazz them up, although they do vary in intensity. Just
saute with a little garlic, stir in creme fraiche, and toss with good
pasta.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a


Kansas--working to become a science-free zone

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:43:33 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article >,
> Jim Davis > wrote:
>
>> I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
>> mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
>> easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
>> enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
>> and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
>> like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
>> mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
>> them to grow.
>
> Seriously. Join the list alt.nature.mushrooms
>
> I will crosspost this to them for you. :-)
>
> Cheers!

The original poster should look up a local mushroom club fast-- it's that
time of year, and he lives in the Mushroom Capitol of the World.

--

Try for a Darwin Award!
Eat mushrooms IDed via the Internet!

In article >,
says...
>
> > "James" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >
> >If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >
>
> Chanterelles.
>
> gloria p
>


Seconded. Heck, we can't even *buy* them here in New Zealand --- I
haven't had any in 24 years <sigh>.

-P.


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: >>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
: >>
: >
: >
: > Psilocybe Cubensis


: And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
: druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
: like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.


Reality is for people who can't handle drugs.

"James" > wrote in message
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> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?

P. cyanescens. Heh...







Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...



Shaun aRe

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...

> And if you are going to attempt to cultivate Amanita, they are a
> symbiont with certain types of conifers,

Indeed they are mychorizal fungi, relationships not restricted to conifers,
though. The A. muscaria you mention grows with birch, conifers, occasionally
with beech, and has been shown to be adaptive to 'new' trees also - they
took to growing with eucalyptus when they found there way to Australia, for
instance.

> and A. muscaria is better.....

Than A. virosa? I would say A. virosa (and A. phalloids) are far superior
killers to A. muscaria, so I suppose it depends on what you are trying to
achieve huh? ',;~}~



Shaun aRe

"Bubbabob" > wrote in message
. 3.30...
> "James" > wrote:
>
> > If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >
>
> Psilocybe Cubensis

P. Cyanescens! Wood eater, cold resistant, more bang for the mass by quite a
way too.






Shaun aRe

"JohnHancock" > wrote in message
news:eQB6f.13657$MN6.9625@fed1read04...
> Bubbabob wrote:
> > "James" > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Psilocybe Cubensis
>
>
> And so speaketh one of the drug addicts of the group. What's the matter
> druggie real life too much for you? Tough S**t learn to deal with it
> like a normal person would - without resorting to illegal substances.

Right - learn to deal with it by being a bigoted arsehole to those who don't
deserve it, like you have learned to deal with 'real life'.

Go drown in beer you fruitcake.







Shaun aRe

"Victor Sack" > wrote in message
.. .
> James > wrote:
>
> > If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>
> Well, were it possible, I'd grow black Périgord truffles (Tuber
> melanosporum), white Alba truffles (Tuber magnatum), cèpes/porcini
> (Boletus edulis), European chanterelles (Cantharellus cibarius), morels
> (Morchella), orange-cap boletus (Boletus aurantiacus), and brown-cap
> boletus (Boletus scaber).
>
> Victor

Had to get all the good ones down there that aren't
(easily/economically/currently at all) cultivatable. That's CHEATING!

',;~}~





Shaun aRe - I add to your above selection, Gymnopilus luteus and
spectabilis!

"Jim Davis" > wrote in message
...
> I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
> mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
> easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
> enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
> and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
> like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
> mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
> them to grow.

A lot of the edible boletes supposedly aren't good cooked - they can be
slimy and mushy. Drying, powdering and using to season soups and stews etc.
is reported to often be the best use for some of them, others raw as a
vegetable in salads etc.

King bolete - that's Boletus edulis/cep? They should be great! There is
however some debate on whether there *are* any /actual/ B. edulis in North
America, or if what are known as such are indeed (possibly several)
different boletes...




Shaun aRe - A little tiny bit about that he
http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/sept98.html

"Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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>
> "James" > wrote in message
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>
>> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>
> P. cyanescens. Heh...
>
> Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
>
>

Morels! Then cepes.


--
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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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> "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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> > "James" > wrote in message
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> >
> >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >
> > P. cyanescens. Heh...
> >
> > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
> >
> >
>
> Morels! Then cepes.

Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
myself, ya CHEATS!

Shaun aRe

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>> "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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>> >
>> > "James" > wrote in message
>> > oups.com...
>> >
>> >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
>> >
>> > P. cyanescens. Heh...
>> >
>> > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Morels! Then cepes.
>
> Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
> myself, ya CHEATS!
>
> Shaun aRe
>
>

Please note original question: "If you could grow your own..."


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In article ws.net>,
"Shaun aRe" > wrote:

> "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
> . com...
> > "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
> > eenews.net...
> > >
> > > "James" > wrote in message
> > > oups.com...
> > >
> > >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> > >
> > > P. cyanescens. Heh...
> > >
> > > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Morels! Then cepes.
>
> Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
> myself, ya CHEATS!
>
> Shaun aRe
>
>

Morels are cultivatable dear. :-)
Fungi Perfecti sells an outdoor Morel patch with instructions.

Ash seems to be the key.

Cheers!
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:06:23 +0100, "Shaun aRe"
> wrote:

>
>"Jim Davis" > wrote in message
...
>> I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
>> mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
>> easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
>> enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
>> and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
>> like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
>> mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
>> them to grow.
>
>A lot of the edible boletes supposedly aren't good cooked - they can be
>slimy and mushy. Drying, powdering and using to season soups and stews etc.
>is reported to often be the best use for some of them, others raw as a
>vegetable in salads etc.
>
>King bolete - that's Boletus edulis/cep? They should be great! There is
>however some debate on whether there *are* any /actual/ B. edulis in North
>America, or if what are known as such are indeed (possibly several)
>different boletes...
>
I have eaten ceps, or _cepes_ from central NY that were spectacular to
eat and looked like fresh imported porcini from South Africa.

I have also had boletes with an orange color to the top that were
great. Maybe that is what Victor was writing about.

Some other boletes seem less so. But I have also had slippery jacks,
another bolete, that sometimes is great as well.

I suppose DNA analysis is the only way to really tell.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a


Kansas--working to become a science-free zone

Rodney Myrvaagnes > wrote:

> I have also had boletes with an orange color to the top that were
> great. Maybe that is what Victor was writing about.

Here are some pictures of the orange-cap boletus. The cap colour and the
speckled stem are typical.

<http://mycorance.free.fr/valchamp/valimage/boleora2.jpg>

<http://www.offthebone.net/wp-content/pictures/shroom2.jpg>

<http://www.fungoceva.it/images/funghicebano/RICET_bol_auranz.jpg>


And here are some pictures of the brown-cap boletus. The stem is
sometimes speckled, too, but not always, and is usually rather thinner
than that of the orange-cap boletus.

<http://www.chartingnature.com/img%5Cmushrooms%5Cboletus-scaber-6306.jpg>

<http://www.asergeev.com/pictures/archives/compress/2004/415/jpeg/24.jpg>

Victor
who wants to be somewhere near Lake Puruvesi ("Black Water") in the
Saimaa lake district in Finland, picking mushrooms...

Just as a little followup, I was out today and saw a couple of king
boletes that had just broken thru. I grabbed them, brushed off the
dirt, sliced them thin and fried with a little olive oil and salt. Not
bad. Have some waiting for breakfast to have with scrambled eggs. Lot
od slippery jacks and those red top poison ones around but I steer clear
of them.

Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:06:23 +0100, "Shaun aRe"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>"Jim Davis" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>I live right next to a woods that supposedly has some of the best wild
>>>mushroom hunting in the area, or country. I've done it a few times and
>>>easily get the king boletes and one or two others but I don't know
>>>enough to do it adequately so I rarely hunt them. I've tried cooking
>>>and eating the boletes but quite frankly they aren't that great. Would
>>>like to know how to jazz 'em up to taste good. Any thoughts? Other
>>>mushrooms? I'm in SW Washington state so lots of moist cool climate for
>>>them to grow.
>>
>>A lot of the edible boletes supposedly aren't good cooked - they can be
>>slimy and mushy. Drying, powdering and using to season soups and stews etc.
>>is reported to often be the best use for some of them, others raw as a
>>vegetable in salads etc.
>>
>>King bolete - that's Boletus edulis/cep? They should be great! There is
>>however some debate on whether there *are* any /actual/ B. edulis in North
>>America, or if what are known as such are indeed (possibly several)
>>different boletes...
>>
>
> I have eaten ceps, or _cepes_ from central NY that were spectacular to
> eat and looked like fresh imported porcini from South Africa.
>
> I have also had boletes with an orange color to the top that were
> great. Maybe that is what Victor was writing about.
>
> Some other boletes seem less so. But I have also had slippery jacks,
> another bolete, that sometimes is great as well.
>
> I suppose DNA analysis is the only way to really tell.
>
>
> Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a
>
>
> Kansas--working to become a science-free zone

"Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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> "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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> >
> > "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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> >> "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> > "James" > wrote in message
> >> > oups.com...
> >> >
> >> >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> >> >
> >> > P. cyanescens. Heh...
> >> >
> >> > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Morels! Then cepes.
> >
> > Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
> > myself, ya CHEATS!
> >
> > Shaun aRe
> >
> >
>
> Please note original question: "If you could grow your own..."

I KNOW! But those weren't the rules I played by so I'm gonna call y'all
CHEATS! Heheheh...


Shaun 'cannot find serious people on Usenet anywhere' aRe ',;~}~

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
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> In article ws.net>,
> "Shaun aRe" > wrote:
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> > "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message
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> > > "Shaun aRe" > wrote in message
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> > > >
> > > > "James" > wrote in message
> > > > oups.com...
> > > >
> > > >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> > > >
> > > > P. cyanescens. Heh...
> > > >
> > > > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Morels! Then cepes.
> >
> > Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
> > myself, ya CHEATS!
> >
> > Shaun aRe
> >
> >
>
> Morels are cultivatable dear. :-)
> Fungi Perfecti sells an outdoor Morel patch with instructions.
>
> Ash seems to be the key.
>
> Cheers!

Cool! Thanks for the enlightenment on that Kat ',;~}~


Shaun aRe - IT'S WEEKEND !!!

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> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
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> > "Shaun aRe" > wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > >> If you could grow your own, which ones would you grow?
> > > > >
> > > > > P. cyanescens. Heh...
> > > > >
> > > > > Failing that, maitake, shitake, oyster, probably...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Morels! Then cepes.
> > >
> > > Not really cultivatable unfortunately, or I'da picked those or similar
> > > myself, ya CHEATS!
> > >
> > > Shaun aRe
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Morels are cultivatable dear. :-)
> > Fungi Perfecti sells an outdoor Morel patch with instructions.
> >
> > Ash seems to be the key.
> >
> > Cheers!
>
> Cool! Thanks for the enlightenment on that Kat ',;~}~
>
>
> Shaun aRe - IT'S WEEKEND !!!
>
>

Indeed it is!!!
Hugs dear! :-)

Kat
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