"SD" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Deer and elk have been found to have Chronic Wasting Disease, the
> equivalent disease in cattle is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy or Mad
> Cow Disease and in sheep it is known as scrapie.
>
> SD

I guess I must explain. <sigh> Elk are deer. What you said was the same as
Deer and deer.

Charlie

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:03:44 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> wrote:

>
>"SD" > wrote in message
roups.com...
>>
>>
>> Deer and elk have been found to have Chronic Wasting Disease, the
>> equivalent disease in cattle is Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy or Mad
>> Cow Disease and in sheep it is known as scrapie.
>>
>> SD
>
>I guess I must explain. <sigh> Elk are deer. What you said was the same as
>Deer and deer.
>
>Charlie
>

Sorry for the previously sloppy taxonomy, but these are the animals
referred to when speaking of CWD:

Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus), white-tailed deer (Odocoileus
virginianus) and Rocky Mountain elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni).

Boron

Mark Thorson wrote:
> SD wrote:
>> Normally I don't even bother with Mr Mass Hysteria's postings.
>
> The people who always say DON'T PANIC would have a whole lot
> more credibility if every once in a while when justified
> by reliable information, expert opinion, and/or conservative
> speculation they said PANIC.

Take this approach, Mark: You're in a crowded movie theater, and things
are going along just dandy until you think you smell smoke. Where
there's smoke there's fire, right? Maybe. How soon should you yell "FIRE!"?

Okay, so you look around for smoke and don't see any, and you give it
another think. Maybe you ask some of the folks in the seats around you
if they smell something. The majority of them tell you to shaddap and
watch the movie, a couple say they don't smell anything, and a couple
more agree with you but attribute it to the smoker you all are sitting
near. Of course there will be those who didn't smell anything until you
mentioned it to them... Yell "FIRE" now?

Okay. Okay. So now you're convinced you just saw a wisp of smoke. You
tell some of the people sitting near you that you saw it. Of course, you
only really tell the people who sorta maybe smelled smoke, and before
you know it you all saw it. No one else is concerned, but you saw it.
And the fire itself. You saw a hint of flame, didn't you. Didn't you? Ah
ha! There's someone else who saw it! Yell "FIRE" now?

*Saw* it? Hell! We SEE it! There it is! Somebody sees it over there!

Where?

There!!

Did you actually see it? No, not really. But someone said they see it,
or that someone else sees it, so we all see it! That's where they said
it is, over there! Yell "FIRE" now?

You know where this is going

"Boron Elgar" > wrote
<snip>
> Sorry for the previously sloppy taxonomy, but these are the animals
> referred to when speaking of CWD:

That's alright! I have few areas of expertise, and I can't pass up a chance
to say something when I have a chance to talk with confidence.

> Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus), white-tailed deer (Odocoileus
> virginianus) and Rocky Mountain elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni).

Ah! Much better. ;-) My panties have unbunched!

> Boron

Charlie

OBFOOD: I once had an excellent (farm raised English) deer roast served with
bitter herbs, wild mushroom and cognac sauce at a London restaurant. It was
superb with a bottle of Italian red ( as I remember.......it might have been
Spanish). Pureed turnips and carrots come to mind as well.

Mark Thorson wrote:
> SD wrote:
> >
> > Normally I don't even bother with Mr Mass Hysteria's postings.
>
> The people who always say DON'T PANIC would have a whole lot
> more credibility if every once in a while when justified
> by reliable information, expert opinion, and/or conservative
> speculation they said PANIC.

There's a differnce between panic, which you try to incite and informed
concern about a situation. I prefer to go with the latter as opposed to
your hysterical postings.

SD

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:58:05 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote
><snip>
>> Sorry for the previously sloppy taxonomy, but these are the animals
>> referred to when speaking of CWD:
>
>That's alright! I have few areas of expertise, and I can't pass up a chance
>to say something when I have a chance to talk with confidence.

And I am always happy to find someone with expertise! A pleasure & a
tip o' the topper to you.
>
>> Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus), white-tailed deer (Odocoileus
>> virginianus) and Rocky Mountain elk (Cervus elaphus nelsoni).
>
>Ah! Much better. ;-) My panties have unbunched!
>
>> Boron
>
>Charlie
>
>OBFOOD: I once had an excellent (farm raised English) deer roast served with
>bitter herbs, wild mushroom and cognac sauce at a London restaurant. It was
>superb with a bottle of Italian red ( as I remember.......it might have been
>Spanish). Pureed turnips and carrots come to mind as well.
>

The bitter herbs have an appeal...especially after attending so many
seders.

I crock potted a venison roast last Friday with onions, carrots and
cut up pears.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote
>
> The bitter herbs have an appeal...especially after attending so many
> seders.

Heh, heh!

> I crock potted a venison roast last Friday with onions, carrots and
> cut up pears.
>
> Boron

Does crock-potting intensify the venison flavor? I am rather on the edge of
appeal/dislike with venison.

Charlie, who has a "cream cheese" personality

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:06:17 GMT, "Charles Gifford"
> wrote:

>
>"Boron Elgar" > wrote
>>
>> The bitter herbs have an appeal...especially after attending so many
>> seders.
>
>Heh, heh!
>
>> I crock potted a venison roast last Friday with onions, carrots and
>> cut up pears.
>>
>> Boron
>
>Does crock-potting intensify the venison flavor? I am rather on the edge of
>appeal/dislike with venison.
>
>Charlie, who has a "cream cheese" personality
>
I, like you, I believe. prefer my venison not to have gamey flavor,
so when I make it, it has to have lots of aromatics or other strong
flavors with it

The crock pot itself made no diff to the flavor, as far as I can tell.

My problem with venison is that I do not know the cuts well enough -
or the generous hunters who give it to us don't - that I am sure of
how to make it at all. Some pieces need little cooking while others
really need to be pot roasted.

I have seen mention of "saddle of venison." The very name sounds as if
it would make a remarkable meal. I wonder, though.

Boron

Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:04:30 -0700, pennyaline
> > wrote:
>
> >Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> Extraordinary cluster of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD)
> >> in Idaho:
> >>
> >> http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...e_x.htm?csp=34
> >>
> >> It's only going to get worse from here!
> >
> >
> >Did you read the article? It's "suspected" CJD. From the article:
> >
> >"Of the nine suspected cases reported so far in 2005, three tested
> >positive for an infectious disease of the nervous system, though more
> >tests are pending to determine if the fatal illness was in fact
> >sporadic CJD. Four apparent victims were buried without autopsies.
> >Two suspected cases tested negative.
> >
> >Still, federal and state health officials are stopping just short of
> >calling the Idaho cases a "cluster," waiting for final test results
> >from the victims who got autopsies."
>
>
> Mr. Thorson is a professional panic-meister on this topic.
>
> Boron

Mark is a long-time, LONG time, contributor to this newsgroup and most
of us know when he is making stuff up (he does it for fun, not to be
malicious) and when he's not. There is no reason to castigate him in
the postings. People can pay attention or not, and most of us are
intelligent enough to figure out when to do which.

N.

On 10 Nov 2005 08:55:40 -0800, "Nancy1" >
wrote:

>
>Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:04:30 -0700, pennyaline
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Mark Thorson wrote:
>> >> Extraordinary cluster of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD)
>> >> in Idaho:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...e_x.htm?csp=34
>> >>
>> >> It's only going to get worse from here!
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you read the article? It's "suspected" CJD. From the article:
>> >
>> >"Of the nine suspected cases reported so far in 2005, three tested
>> >positive for an infectious disease of the nervous system, though more
>> >tests are pending to determine if the fatal illness was in fact
>> >sporadic CJD. Four apparent victims were buried without autopsies.
>> >Two suspected cases tested negative.
>> >
>> >Still, federal and state health officials are stopping just short of
>> >calling the Idaho cases a "cluster," waiting for final test results
>> >from the victims who got autopsies."
>>
>>
>> Mr. Thorson is a professional panic-meister on this topic.
>>
>> Boron
>
>Mark is a long-time, LONG time, contributor to this newsgroup and most
>of us know when he is making stuff up (he does it for fun, not to be
>malicious) and when he's not. There is no reason to castigate him in
>the postings. People can pay attention or not, and most of us are
>intelligent enough to figure out when to do which.
>
>N.

Some obviously are not, madame, as he is posting incorrect information
about a rather serious subject and doing so consistently in a number
of newsgroups over the years.

And of course, several others around here have also pointed out his
errors in this particular thread. I am not alone in contributing to it
here on rfc. Over a dozen posters have participated in one way or
another. Perhaps you wish to castigate some of the others who just
weren't "intelligent enough" to figure this out, or is this a
one-size-fits-all-multi-poster castigation?

Perpetuating scientific myth is not my idea of a joke. You, of course,
may take your humor where you find it.

I have been around here almost 6 years, myself, using this nick. Much
longer with a previous one. Pardon me if I am not hysterical at your
critique.

And indeed, people can pay attention or not. Heed your own advice.

Boron

"Boron Elgar" > wrote
>
<much snippage>
> The crock pot itself made no diff to the flavor, as far as I can tell.

Thanks for the info. I have found that crock pots do intensify some
flavors....tomatoes for instance. At least to me.

>
> My problem with venison is that I do not know the cuts well enough -
> or the generous hunters who give it to us don't - that I am sure of
> how to make it at all. Some pieces need little cooking while others
> really need to be pot roasted.

Makes sense. I'd not know where to begin!

> I have seen mention of "saddle of venison." The very name sounds as if
> it would make a remarkable meal. I wonder, though.
>
> Boron

Ah! Saddle of venison. That would be a great presentation! I've seen saddle
of mutton but not venison. It was very impressive.

Charlie