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For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave
me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. How can I keep the rice from clumping together? --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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Jud McCranie > wrote in
: > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave > me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a > problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on > the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. > I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. > I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But > now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still > have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. > (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually > increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. > > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? > > --- > Replace you know what by j to email > Rinse well 3 times to remove excess talc (starch)... then let the rice sit in the cooking water/liquid for upwards of 20 minutes before turning the cooker on. Or change brands of rice. Converted or parboiled rice sticks less. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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hahabogus > wrote in
: > Jud McCranie > wrote in > : > >> How can I keep the rice from clumping together? >> > Rinse well 3 times to remove excess talc (starch)... then let the > rice sit in the cooking water/liquid for upwards of 20 minutes > before turning the cooker on. Or change brands of rice. Converted > or parboiled rice sticks less. Offhand, I'd say that's right. The poster might try reducing the water a bit. I make six cups at a time and instead of putting exactly 1:2 rice to water, I reduce the amount of water to 3.75 cups and put a bit more than two cups of rice, which I carefully rinse three times with agitation to lift off the starch. Mind you, this is stove top technique. I am looking into getting a chinese rice cooker. My b-i-l has one (they have asian roomers) and he has figured out how to keep it going all the time without drying out or getting soggy. We're spending a week there this month and that will be my new technique for the summer. -- Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for? Gimli, son of Gloín |
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"Jud McCranie" > wrote in message
... > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave > me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a > problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on > the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. > I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. > I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But > now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still > have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. > (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually > increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. > > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? > > --- Rice sticks together by its very nature - there's nothing wrong with that. If it didn't, it would be hell to eat it with chopsticks! If you want rice that doesn't stick you need to make pilaf where the rice is sauteed in oil before the liquid is added. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "Peter Aitken" > wrote in message . com... > "Jud McCranie" > wrote in message > ... > > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave > > me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a > > problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on > > the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. > > I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. > > I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But > > now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still > > have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. > > (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually > > increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. > > > > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? > > > > --- > > Rice sticks together by its very nature - there's nothing wrong with that. > If it didn't, it would be hell to eat it with chopsticks! If you want rice > that doesn't stick you need to make pilaf where the rice is sauteed in oil > before the liquid is added. > I find that if you let it sit for a few minutes after removing it from the heat, it doesn't stick as much. Adding a bit of fat (butter or olive oil) at the begging helps. Also, instead of stirring it, I use a fork to rake it. Stirring promotes clumps. |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:29:29 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote: >Rice sticks together by its very nature - there's nothing wrong with that. >If it didn't, it would be hell to eat it with chopsticks! I don't use chopsticks. I don't mind a little stickiness, but with the cooker it is lumping into big clumps that are unappetizing. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:46:28 GMT, "Vox Humana" >
wrote: >I find that if you let it sit for a few minutes after removing it from the >heat, it doesn't stick as much. I haven't tried that. I will. > Adding a bit of fat (butter or olive oil) at the begging helps. That is a good suggestion because I use olive oil with pasta. > Also, instead of stirring it, I use a fork to rake it. >Stirring promotes clumps. I haven't been stirring it, but I was wondering if stirring would help. Obviously not. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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Rinse the rice at least three times, using agitation. The rinsed rice is
holding some water so your ratio is already biased on the wetter side. Fluff the rice after it is cooked!! It will keep the layer against the sides and bottom from glazing and hardening. I started doing this in a restaurant I worked at after I realized we were throwing tons of hardened rice out. Personally, I always measure and time rice at controlled temp in a covered saucepan. Consistent results for me. I adjust the ratio and time to the variety of rice being cooked. My favorites are long-grained Basmati and Jasmine. |
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I have used a wide variety of rice cookers, and have never had rice
cooked as well as the old-fashioned "boil(steam)it in a pot" method. I have decided that it's just the nature of the beast, and donated all the rice cookers to a charity sale. Perhaps some folks like the rice-cooker rice. However, I did put a copy of the "boil it in a pot" directions in each of the cookers just to be fair. And I always get out my old pot to cook rice! Jud McCranie > wrote in message >. .. > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave > me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a > problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on > the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. > I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. > I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But > now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still > have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. > (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually > increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. > > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? > > --- > Replace you know what by j to email |
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![]() "Jud McCranie" > wrote in message ... > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife gave > me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always have a > problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, especially on > the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also forms on the bottom. > I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that doesn't seem to help. > I've increased the amount of water, and that seems to help some. But > now I'm up to 50% more water than the instructions say, and I still > have a major problem with the rice sticking together in big clumps. > (I started with 2 cups of water to 1 cup of rice, and I gradually > increased it to 3 cups of water.) I use Mahatna long-grain rice. > > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? > > --- > Replace you know what by j to email I've used a rice cooker all my rice-making career (since childhood) and you're using much too much water. I'm not familiar with the particular brand of rice you are using (and different qualities of rice respond differently when cooked), but when making long-grained rice my family has always used a 1:1 ratio of water to rice, though I prefer about 1.25:1. Also, do not open the rice cooker as soon as the rice is done. Instead, let it rest for maybe 5-10 minutes then when you open the lid, fluff it with a fork. Fluffing is very important to help prevent the rice from clumping--especially if you plan on storing the rice for any length of time. Another problem may be the amount of rice you are using. If you're using too much for the size of your cooker, or too little, it can affect how the rice cooks. Finally, it could be that you got a lousy rice cooker. Perhaps it is faulty, or it is just not a very good one. If you can return it, or exchange it, try National, Tiger, or Zojirushi brands. We had a National that lasted more than 20 years and the Tiger we are currently using is about 10 years old. Haven't had any problems so far! rona -- "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and they will **** upon your computer." --Bruce Graham |
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(Ronnie Rao) wrote in
om: > Hi, > > I have had similar problems, and hence had to reduce the usage of rice > cooker unless I have to cook for 4+ people. > > I read/heard that a non-stick rice cooker helps a lot, one that has a > coating. Also, once you hear the 'click' sound or when you see that > the rice is done, take the plug off, dont let the rice warm in the > rice cooker, that increases the stickiness of the rice. > > I use Basmati Rice always, wash it 3 times and boil it in 6 cups of > water. Once cooked, drain the excess water by passing it through a > strainer. This makes rice less starchy too. > > Its a lengthier process, all this because I eat rice only once a week > ![]() > > Ronnie > > > (Mary) wrote in message > . com>... >> I have used a wide variety of rice cookers, and have never had rice >> cooked as well as the old-fashioned "boil(steam)it in a pot" method. >> I have decided that it's just the nature of the beast, and donated >> all the rice cookers to a charity sale. Perhaps some folks like the >> rice-cooker rice. However, I did put a copy of the "boil it in a pot" >> directions in each of the cookers just to be fair. And I always get >> out my old pot to cook rice! >> >> Jud McCranie > wrote in message >> >. .. >> > For years I made rice by boiling it in a pot. Recently my wife >> > gave me a Krups rice cooker. I've used it 8-10 times, but I always >> > have a problem of the rice sticking together in large clumps, >> > especially on the bottom and edges. A thin film of starch also >> > forms on the bottom. I've tried rinsing the rice first, but that >> > doesn't seem to help. I've increased the amount of water, and that >> > seems to help some. But now I'm up to 50% more water than the >> > instructions say, and I still have a major problem with the rice >> > sticking together in big clumps. (I started with 2 cups of water to >> > 1 cup of rice, and I gradually increased it to 3 cups of water.) I >> > use Mahatna long-grain rice. >> > >> > How can I keep the rice from clumping together? >> > >> > --- >> > Replace you know what by j to email > I think we are talking different cooking devices here. Some call a steamer a rice cooker. This can poach a fish or steam veggies as well. Usually timer controled. Has a water resevoir. When I talk rice cooker, I mean the removable cooking pot that you put the rice and water in that sits over top of a heating element inside the cooker. This element shuts off when the rice is cooked. There isn't any excess water. You can't poach a fish or produce useable steam with this device. Basically this thing senses when the temp rises because the water is gone and shuts down. Doesn't have a water resevoir. This cooker comes in various sizes, small (makes 1- 4 cups rice) ranging thru large (makes over 30 cups rice or more). Won't cook Wild Rice. I like to wash my basmati and cook it in chicken stock (from powder) in a small rice cooker. I also on ocassion chuck in other items to cook with the rice. Things like sliced mushrooms, sliced onions, cubed chicken and/or differing herbs and spices (a pinch of cumin is nice). I use 1.75 cups water/1 cup rice ratio (if you figure in the wet washed rice about a 2/1 ratio). I stir up the rice after it is cooked. There is some clumping but nothing to write home about. There is also a cooked/brown skin of rice at the bottom of the cooker...tastes good... When I just used converted long grain rice (Uncle Ben's), I'd cook it in the microwave. My microwave was a 750 watt unit and a coffee mug of rice and 2 mugs of water with a chicken stock cube would cook uncovered in (IIRC) around 20 minutes on high power unsupervised. And leave me one less pot to watch or wash. These days I cook many styles and types of rice...Black, red, bastmati, plain long grain, brown, jasmine, converted, mid-grain japanese, etc. So I prefer to use the rice cooker. -- Once during Prohibition I was forced to live for days on nothing but food and water. -------- FIELDS, W. C. |
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"Jud McCranie" > wrote in message
... > On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:29:29 GMT, "Peter Aitken" > > wrote: > > >Rice sticks together by its very nature - there's nothing wrong with that. > >If it didn't, it would be hell to eat it with chopsticks! > > I don't use chopsticks. I don't mind a little stickiness, but with > the cooker it is lumping into big clumps that are unappetizing. > > --- Here's my exact recipe for making jasmine rice in a rice cooker - great every time. I am using actual measuring cups, not the thing that comes with most rice cookers. Rinse 2c of rice until the water runs clear and drain well (even a couple of extra TB of water will change things so this is important). Put in cooker with 3c water and start immediately. When done cooking, let sit on the warm cycle for 5-10 min. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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![]() "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message ... > > Offhand, I'd say that's right. The poster might try reducing the > water a bit. I make six cups at a time and instead of putting > exactly 1:2 rice to water, I reduce the amount of water to 3.75 cups > and put a bit more than two cups of rice, which I carefully rinse > three times with agitation to lift off the starch. Mind you, this is > stove top technique. I am looking into getting a chinese rice > cooker. My b-i-l has one (they have asian roomers) and he has > figured out how to keep it going all the time without drying out or > getting soggy. We're spending a week there this month and that will > be my new technique for the summer. > Chinese or Japanese? If Chinese, what brand might it be? I'm not familiar with any Chinese-brand rice cookers. All the Chinese grocery stores in Winnipeg only carried Japanese models (Tiger, Zojirushi, National). rice making. I rarely rinse more than once and I do a poor job of it, at that. I, personally, don't find that rinsing really affects the final product, but perhaps that depends more on the brand of rice used. rona -- "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and they will **** upon your computer." --Bruce Graham |
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Jud McCranie > wrote in
: > On 2 Jul 2004 00:04:25 GMT, Michel Boucher > > wrote: > >>Offhand, I'd say that's right. The poster might try reducing the >>water a bit. I make six cups at a time and instead of putting >>exactly 1:2 rice to water, I reduce the amount of water to 3.75 >>cups and put a bit more than two cups of rice, which I carefully >>rinse three times with agitation to lift off the starch. > > Hmmm, I seemed to get better results as I increased the water from > 2:1 to 3:1. But I need to try rinsing more thoroughly. It depends how you prefer to cook rice. I am aware of two methods using boiling or simmering water. One is generally referred to as the 2:1 ratio and the other is much more to 1, also called à grande eau (large water) in which the rice is cooked in a LOT of water. The resulting texture is different however and the rice is cooked until tender...about 25-30 minutes. > I'm using the same kind of rice I did in a pot for years, without > this problem. When I made it in the pot, though, I added a little > salt, and I haven't been doing that with the rice cooker. Could > that make a difference? I suspect not. Adding more water with a rice cooker is to compensate for evaporation, I suspect. My wife cooks rice in a steamer/rice cooker and she uses completely different proportions, but the rice cooks for 50 minutes unattended. If you cook rice that long, there will be evaporation. Now we haven't approached the issues surrounding brown rice and brown basmati rice :-) So, do you peek at your rice while it's cooking, or do you believe it to be bad luck? I peek at least once. -- Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for? Gimli, son of Gloín |
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in message
... > > > rice making. I rarely rinse more than once and I do a poor job of it, > at that. I, personally, don't find that rinsing really affects the final > product, but perhaps that depends more on the brand of rice used. > If you rinsed more carefully I think you would see the difference. I find that most rices require 4 or 5 careful rinses for the best results. -- Peter Aitken Remove the crap from my email address before using. |
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"Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in
: > > "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message > ... > >> >> Offhand, I'd say that's right. The poster might try reducing the >> water a bit. I make six cups at a time and instead of putting >> exactly 1:2 rice to water, I reduce the amount of water to 3.75 >> cups and put a bit more than two cups of rice, which I carefully >> rinse three times with agitation to lift off the starch. Mind >> you, this is stove top technique. I am looking into getting a >> chinese rice cooker. My b-i-l has one (they have asian roomers) >> and he has figured out how to keep it going all the time without >> drying out or getting soggy. We're spending a week there this >> month and that will be my new technique for the summer. >> > > Chinese or Japanese? If Chinese, what brand might it be? I'm not > familiar with any Chinese-brand rice cookers. All the Chinese > grocery stores in Winnipeg only carried Japanese models (Tiger, > Zojirushi, National). No idea. I'll find out and report in detail after July 21, unless I connect from there, but I doubt it. We men will be busy in the kitchen. -- Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for? Gimli, son of Gloín |
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"Peter Aitken" > wrote in
.com: > "Rona Yuthasastrakosol" > wrote in message > ... >> >> >> rice making. I rarely rinse more than once and I do a poor >> job of it, at that. I, personally, don't find that rinsing really >> affects the final product, but perhaps that depends more on the >> brand of rice used. > > If you rinsed more carefully I think you would see the difference. > I find that most rices require 4 or 5 careful rinses for the best > results. I find three rinses are sufficient if you agitate, which is why I keep chopsticks handy. They're excellent for that kind of work. As for brands, I usually buy whatever the local merchant has on sale in 10 lb. bags, but I buy the most expensive kind. Which reminds me, I have to get another bag soon. We're down to barely enough rice for twelve cups cooked. That's cutting it pretty close for us. I put the rice in large plastic containers that are tightly shut (we had an infestation of meal moths a few years ago). The rest I close up well and stick it in the freezer until I'm ready to use it. -- Certainty of death. Small chance of success. What are we waiting for? Gimli, son of Gloín |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:43:06 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote: >If you rinsed more carefully I think you would see the difference. I find >that most rices require 4 or 5 careful rinses for the best results. I'm going to try that next time. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 23:43:06 GMT, "Peter Aitken"
> wrote: >If you rinsed more carefully I think you would see the difference. I find >that most rices require 4 or 5 careful rinses for the best results. I'm going to try that next time. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 13:05:59 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:
>When I talk rice cooker, I mean the removable cooking pot that you put the >rice and water in that sits over top of a heating element inside the >cooker. This element shuts off when the rice is cooked. That's the kind I have. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 13:05:59 GMT, hahabogus > wrote:
>When I talk rice cooker, I mean the removable cooking pot that you put the >rice and water in that sits over top of a heating element inside the >cooker. This element shuts off when the rice is cooked. That's the kind I have. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:25:29 +0900, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
> wrote: >I've used a rice cooker all my rice-making career (since childhood) and >you're using much too much water. If I used less water, it was still hard after all the water had been absorbed. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:25:29 +0900, "Rona Yuthasastrakosol"
> wrote: >I've used a rice cooker all my rice-making career (since childhood) and >you're using much too much water. If I used less water, it was still hard after all the water had been absorbed. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:46:11 GMT, "kilikini"
> wrote: >Funny, we *like* sticky rice here. If it isn't a sticky gooey mess, it's no >good to eat with chopsticks. :~) It should be a little sticky, but we eat it with a fork, and it sticks together in huge clumps. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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