Wayne I just read your report on the slurry pie crust. Thanks for
doing the testing for us,. Making two different kinds of pie crust in
one day is really more than anyone can be expected to do!

Christine, I followed the thread when you were searching for the
recipe, but missed whether the one at Recipe Link was the one you were
looking for.

I'd like to try this crust, but want to be sure I'm doing the one you
were looking for.

Thanksgiving is getting close and it seems a perfect time to try a new
crust recipe.

Thanks to you both,

jillie
Roseville, CA

On Mon 07 Nov 2005 07:48:48p, jillie wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Wayne I just read your report on the slurry pie crust. Thanks for
> doing the testing for us,. Making two different kinds of pie crust in
> one day is really more than anyone can be expected to do!

Well, thanks, Jillie. I'm not bragging, but there was a time not so many
years ago when I would bake as many as 8-10 pies in one day to have for
the holiday and for friends who couldn't bake.

> Christine, I followed the thread when you were searching for the
> recipe, but missed whether the one at Recipe Link was the one you were
> looking for.

This is the recipe that was posted by Karen for Christine...

Pastry Made with Hydrogenated Shortening - Two-Crust Pie

Pastry made be made with shortening of this kind in exactly the same way
as when using lard. However, the following recipe is almost foolproof,
and the pastry is flaky and tender:

2 cups all-purpose flour, sifted before measuring
1 teaspoon salt
1/4 cup water
3/4 cup shortening

Sift flour and salt into a bowl. Take out 1/3 cup of this flour and mix
with the 1/4 cup water to form a paste. Cut shortening into remaining
flour until the pieces are the size of small peas. Add flour paste to
blended shortening and flour mixture. Mix with a fork until the dough
comes together and can be shaped into a ball. Divide in half, roll out
both crusts about 1/8 inch thick.

If you are making a one crust pie by this method, use 1 1/2 cups
all-purpose flour, sifted before measuring, 1/2 teaspoon salt, 1/2 cup
shortening. Take out 1/4 cup flour and blend with 3 tablespoons water.
Proceed as above.


Source: "The Betty Furness Westinghouse Cook Book", 1954


I collect old cookbooks, and this one is the most recent addition to my

> I'd like to try this crust, but want to be sure I'm doing the one you
> were looking for.
>
> Thanksgiving is getting close and it seems a perfect time to try a new
> crust recipe.
>
> Thanks to you both,
>
> jillie
> Roseville, CA
>
>



--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

Thanks, again.

I'm making a pie (slurry method) today to celebrate the fact that the
election is finally over and I won't be bombarded with recorded phone
calls asking me to vote a certain way!!!

jillie..who voted early this morning
Roseville, CA

jillie wrote:
> Thanks, again.
>
> I'm making a pie (slurry method) today to celebrate the fact that the
> election is finally over and I won't be bombarded with recorded phone
> calls asking me to vote a certain way!!!
>
> jillie..who voted early this morning
> Roseville, CA
>
I voted at seven this morning, an hour after the polling stations
opened. Then I went home and made meatballs for tonight. Spaghetti
and meatballs, except I have left over mashed potatoes and will serve
that instead of the pasta. I cannot waste them and mashed potatoes do
not freeze. Marcel will have to be talked into believing that the
spaghetti got mushy. )

I must have had three dozen recorded telephone calls in the last three
days. What a waste of money this is. Also, what right do the ones
who make a live call have to ask for whom I intend to vote? Aren't we
assured and entitled of a secret vote?

In article >,
Margaret Suran > wrote:


> >
> Spaghetti and meatballs, except I have left over mashed potatoes and
> will serve that instead of the pasta. I cannot waste them and mashed
> potatoes do not freeze. Marcel will have to be talked into believing
> that the spaghetti got mushy. )


Errrmmm, make potato patties and brown them; don't pour pasta sauce on
them. I know the Eyetalians call it 'gravy' but it's really not the
same thing. Put the damn bottle of Scotch down!! It's affecting your
judgment. "-)

I want to know what Saint Marcel says about the "mushy spaghetti." Oh,
wait -- I can hear him.
>
> I must have had three dozen recorded telephone calls in the last three
> days. What a waste of money this is. Also, what right do the ones
> who make a live call have to ask for whom I intend to vote? Aren't we
> assured and entitled of a secret vote?

Oh, heck, let them call. You are the height of politeness. Of course
we're entitled to a secret vote. When they ask me, I tell them I'm
voting for "the candidate of my choice" (click). Cinchy. Or I don't
answer the phone if I don't recognize the caller ID number.
--
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about our trip to San Francisco for Nephew Pat's wedding last weekend.

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >,
> Margaret Suran > wrote:
>
>
>
>>Spaghetti and meatballs, except I have left over mashed potatoes and
>>will serve that instead of the pasta. I cannot waste them and mashed
>>potatoes do not freeze. Marcel will have to be talked into believing
>>that the spaghetti got mushy. )
>
>
>
> Errrmmm, make potato patties and brown them; don't pour pasta sauce on
> them. I know the Eyetalians call it 'gravy' but it's really not the
> same thing. Put the damn bottle of Scotch down!! It's affecting your
> judgment. "-)
>
> I want to know what Saint Marcel says about the "mushy spaghetti." Oh,
> wait -- I can hear him.
>
>>I must have had three dozen recorded telephone calls in the last three
>>days. What a waste of money this is. Also, what right do the ones
>>who make a live call have to ask for whom I intend to vote? Aren't we
>>assured and entitled of a secret vote?
>
>
> Oh, heck, let them call. You are the height of politeness. Of course
> we're entitled to a secret vote. When they ask me, I tell them I'm
> voting for "the candidate of my choice" (click). Cinchy. Or I don't
> answer the phone if I don't recognize the caller ID number.


first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
around the fork. )

I am far from polite when I receive those calls. I have even told
some of those callers, that it is unlawful to make these calls. I
have no idea whether it is or not, but I sure enjoy threatening to
report them.

In article >,
Margaret Suran > wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Margaret Suran > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Spaghetti and meatballs, except I have left over mashed potatoes and
> >>will serve that instead of the pasta. I cannot waste them and mashed
> >>potatoes do not freeze. Marcel will have to be talked into believing
> >>that the spaghetti got mushy. )
> >
> >
> >
> > Errrmmm, make potato patties and brown them; don't pour pasta sauce on
> > them. I know the Eyetalians call it 'gravy' but it's really not the
> > same thing. Put the damn bottle of Scotch down!! It's affecting your
> > judgment. "-)
> >
> > I want to know what Saint Marcel says about the "mushy spaghetti." Oh,
> > wait -- I can hear him.

> > Oh, heck, let them call. You are the height of politeness. Of course
> > we're entitled to a secret vote. When they ask me, I tell them I'm
> > voting for "the candidate of my choice" (click). Cinchy. Or I don't
> > answer the phone if I don't recognize the caller ID number.
>
>
> first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
> with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
> meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
> noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
> around the fork. )

This action (or lack thereof) doesn't speak well for him. "-) Tell him
I'm disappointed,.
>
> I am far from polite when I receive those calls. I have even told
> some of those callers, that it is unlawful to make these calls. I
> have no idea whether it is or not, but I sure enjoy threatening to
> report them.

You go, Girl!
--
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about our trip to San Francisco for Nephew Pat's wedding last weekend.

On Tue 08 Nov 2005 05:57:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Margaret
Suran?

> first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
> with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
> meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
> noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
> around the fork. )

I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly isn't
mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was very
tasty.

We had chicken a la king over boiled rice with succotash on the side.
Homey and tasty.

> I am far from polite when I receive those calls. I have even told
> some of those callers, that it is unlawful to make these calls. I
> have no idea whether it is or not, but I sure enjoy threatening to
> report them.

We use our cell phones for all our personal calls. Our house phone line is
answered by our fax machine on the first ring. It's not that we receive
many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass marketers,
surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get those on the cell
phones.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

In article >,
Wayne Boatwright > wrote:

> On Tue 08 Nov 2005 05:57:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Margaret
> Suran?
>
> > first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
> > with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
> > meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
> > noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
> > around the fork. )
>
> I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly isn't
> mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was very
> tasty.

No, but since spaghetti is the pasta, sauce on mashed potatoes doesn't
make it.

> many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass marketers,
> surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get those on the cell
> phones.

Give it time.
--
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parts the trip report from our vacation time in San Francisco
for Nephew Pat's wedding last weekend.

On Wed 09 Nov 2005 06:42:38a, Melba's Jammin' wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly
>> isn't mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was
>> very tasty.
>
> No, but since spaghetti is the pasta, sauce on mashed potatoes doesn't
> make it.

Can't be as bad as eating chili over spaghetti or rice. Ugh! No one could
convince me that is good.

>> many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass marketers,
>> surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get those on the
>> cell phones.
>
> Give it time.

It's been 3 years with the same cell number. Never even a wrong number.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >,
> Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue 08 Nov 2005 05:57:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Margaret
>>Suran?
>>
>>
>>>first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
>>>with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
>>>meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
>>>noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
>>>around the fork. )
>>
>>I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly isn't
>>mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was very
>>tasty.
>
>
> No, but since spaghetti is the pasta, sauce on mashed potatoes doesn't
> make it.

But chili sauce on mashed potatoes is devine - one of our winter comfort
foods - smashed potatoes topped with homemade chili sauce! Yummy!
Meatballs would go well as a side to potatoes served this way.

>
>
>>many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass marketers,
>>surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get those on the cell
>>phones.
>
>
> Give it time.

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Tue 08 Nov 2005 05:57:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Margaret
> Suran?
>
>
>>first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
>>with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
>>meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
>>noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
>>around the fork. )
>
>
> I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly isn't
> mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was very
> tasty.
>
> We had chicken a la king over boiled rice with succotash on the side.
> Homey and tasty.
>
>
>>I am far from polite when I receive those calls. I have even told
>>some of those callers, that it is unlawful to make these calls. I
>>have no idea whether it is or not, but I sure enjoy threatening to
>>report them.
>
>
> We use our cell phones for all our personal calls. Our house phone line is
> answered by our fax machine on the first ring. It's not that we receive
> many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass marketers,
> surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get those on the cell
> phones.
>

Wayne, Marcel really likes mashed potatoes, but he does prefer pasta
with his meatballs. I guess he didn't want to make a fuss, or,
perhaps he didn't care one way or another. I am certain that he knows
the difference. )

As for those crank calls, I am registered not to receive telemarketing
calls and do not receive any, yet during the pre voting season I get
all these calls, asking me to vote for this or that candidate or
answer a bunch of questions for a poll. I wish I could register
somewhere, in order to have those people not call.

Tonight for dinner, Stuffed Cabbage (bought ready made) for Marcel and
a piece of roasted chicken for me.

On Wed 09 Nov 2005 11:35:04a, Margaret Suran wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> On Tue 08 Nov 2005 05:57:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
>> Margaret Suran?
>>
>>
>>>first, I served Marcel a salad of Romaine Lettuce and Cucumber slices
>>>with oil and vinegar dressing. Next came the mashed potatoes with
>>>meatballs and peas covering them. Marcel ate everything and never
>>>noticed that it was almost impossible to twirl the "Spaghetti" strands
>>>around the fork. )
>>
>>
>> I can't think of a thing that he could complain about. It certainly
>> isn't mandatory to serve meatballs with spaghetti, and I'm sure it was
>> very tasty.
>>
>> We had chicken a la king over boiled rice with succotash on the side.
>> Homey and tasty.
>>
>>
>>>I am far from polite when I receive those calls. I have even told
>>>some of those callers, that it is unlawful to make these calls. I
>>>have no idea whether it is or not, but I sure enjoy threatening to
>>>report them.
>>
>>
>> We use our cell phones for all our personal calls. Our house phone
>> line is answered by our fax machine on the first ring. It's not that
>> we receive many faxes. It's because I don't want to talk to mass
>> marketers, surveyors, politicians, and wrong numbers. We never get
>> those on the cell phones.
>>
>
> Wayne, Marcel really likes mashed potatoes, but he does prefer pasta
> with his meatballs. I guess he didn't want to make a fuss, or,
> perhaps he didn't care one way or another. I am certain that he knows
> the difference. )

Oh, I'm sure that he can tell the difference, but if tasted good, I'm sure
it didn't matter to him.

> As for those crank calls, I am registered not to receive telemarketing
> calls and do not receive any, yet during the pre voting season I get
> all these calls, asking me to vote for this or that candidate or
> answer a bunch of questions for a poll. I wish I could register
> somewhere, in order to have those people not call.

I am also registered to not receive telemarketing calls, but a few were
still getting through. We were also receiving an inordinate number of
"wrong number" calls, and calls for the person who had the number before we
did. The fax idea was a good solution for us.

> Tonight for dinner, Stuffed Cabbage (bought ready made) for Marcel and
> a piece of roasted chicken for me.

I'm very fond of stuffed cabbage, but have not had it for quite a while. I
must remember to make some. Roast chicken is always good!

Did you get the rain you expected?

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974