As some may know we vacation along the central coast of California

The house we use has a very small kitchen with a Jen-Air electric range (with
grill) and there's a standard Webber charcoal burner out back. Not wanting to
pay resort prices at the local store we stop at a Trader Joe's and an
Albertson's on the way up. The grill came in handy the first night for some
Teriyaki grilled boneless pork shoulder.

Not having a full assortment of herbs and spices one learns to improvise.
Fortunately the local stupid market does sell Mike's Chunks of Red Oak - of
Santa Maria fame.

As far as the meat was concerned the Webber did a low and slow Tri Tip, Chicken
breasts, and several racks of Baby Back Ribs - all these were done low and slow
choking off enough air so the chunks of red oak couldn't burn. The main
flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika, cayenne pepper,
salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth, balsamic
and EVOO. The wine and flavorings make sensational marinades.

For a few breakfasts I used steel cut oat meal a few of the mornings, one
morning I used dried cranberries, mixed in at the beginning, one morning I diced
quite a few slices of dried granny smith apples and some golden raisins. On
that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a little
spice - both batches turned out quite well.

They do make a local San Louis Sour Dough Cracked Wheat bread that makes damn
good toast and sandwiches.

When I baked some potatoes one night a added another 6 medium ones. A few days
later they were a great breakfast side dish when chunked, and mixed with S&P,
fresh onion, garlic powder, balsamic & EVOO then fried. A nice complement to
the Salsa scrambled eggs with cheese.

The solids and liquid from a can of Ro-Tel will nicely spike up the basmati rice
medley. An onion and a few ounces of orange juice do quite well to a bag of
frozen French Green Beans, as does the garlic, & balsamic help the frozen
chopped spinach.

If you are ever up that way there is a very good little joint in a one horse
town called Cayucos called the Fish Shanty - they have great white clam chowder,
local fresh fish and chips (or salad) and a mud Pie to die for ( you'll need at
least 2 if not 3 people to demolish one of these slices or should I say
mountains?

Well in a bizarre set of circumstances some day maybe some of this information
will help.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

> The main
> flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika, cayenne pepper,
> salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth, balsamic
> and EVOO.

Just curious as I'm in the UK - what's EVOO?

> On
> that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a little
> spice - both batches turned out quite well.

And what's Instant Spiced Cider mix? It sounds delicious! Would the postage
costs to the UK be astronomical if I could find a way to get some?


Sue
Portsmouth, UK
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pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

= . . = (EastneyEnder) wrote:

> Dimitri wrote:
>
> > The main
> > flavorings I used were Garlic powder, Onion powder, Paprika,
> cayenne pepper,
> > salt, some old thyme, red wine, white wine and some French Vermouth,
> balsamic
> > and EVOO.
>
> Just curious as I'm in the UK - what's EVOO?

First time i saw that acronym i thought the person posting it was making
some sort of cryptic reference to Pan. Eeee Vaaaa Ooooo...but then i
found out it means Extra Virgin Olive Oil.

>
>
> > On
> > that morning I used 2 packets of the Instant Spiced Cider mix for a
> little
> > spice - both batches turned out quite well.
>
> And what's Instant Spiced Cider mix? It sounds delicious! Would the
> postage
> costs to the UK be astronomical if I could find a way to get some?

Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
Britain did not carry some version of it.

Over here we have a product, a "Tea" called "Constant Comment" that is a
cinnamon based tea and very good when made with hot cider.

You might also consider looking at the concept of "Mulled wine" for
inspiration on spicing your cider. Or look for old English "punch"
recipes.
---
JL

>
>
> Sue
> Portsmouth, UK
> --
> pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
> custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
> Britain did not carry some version of it.

Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
Cider mix?

Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure that's not
what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple juice
and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why I
asked about importing it.

Sue
Portsmouth, UK
--
pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

"= . . = (EastneyEnder)" >
wrote in message
eddie.starr...
> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>> Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a
>> European
>> custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier
>> in
>> Britain did not carry some version of it.
>
> Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is
> Instant
> Cider mix?
>
> Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure
> that's not
> what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!
>
> So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple
> juice
> and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is
> why I
> asked about importing it.

Sue, could it be some kind of mix to put into cider? Like the mix we
can get for Gluwein?

"= . . = (EastneyEnder)" > wrote in
message eddie.starr...
> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>> Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
>> custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
>> Britain did not carry some version of it.
>
> Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
> Cider mix?

Take a look he

http://products.peapod.com/5070.html

add a packet to a cup of hot water - you get spiced apple cider.

Dimitri

Dimitri wrote:

> "= . . = (EastneyEnder)" >
> wrote in
> message
> eddie.starr...
> > Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> >> Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a
> European
> >> custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food
> supplier in
> >> Britain did not carry some version of it.
> >
> > Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is
> Instant
> > Cider mix?
>
> Take a look he
>
> http://products.peapod.com/5070.html
>
> add a packet to a cup of hot water - you get spiced apple cider.
>
> Dimitri

I suppose i should throw away my boxes of Kraft mac and cheese before i
say anything, but...Ewwww...
---
JL

= . . = (EastneyEnder) wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
>
>>Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a European
>>custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food supplier in
>>Britain did not carry some version of it.
>
>
> Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is Instant
> Cider mix?

Apple cider mix is a dry mix similar to hot chocolcate mix. You can buy
it by the package especially on university campuses or by the box at
some stores. There are a variety of brands. Here's a link with more info.
http://www.diamondcrystal.com/drin/drin-07.html

I keep a few packs on hand but much prefer the fresh to the mix. We can
buy fresh apple cider at the orchards or grocery stores and it tastes so
much nicer than the mix, IMO. The apple cider is non-alcoholic but can
be converted to alcoholic if you so choose and have the know-how
>
> Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure that's not
> what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!
>
> So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple juice
> and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why I
> asked about importing it.
>
> Sue
> Portsmouth, UK

~patches~ wrote:
> Apple cider mix is a dry mix similar to hot chocolcate mix. You can buy
> it by the package especially on university campuses or by the box at
> some stores. There are a variety of brands. Here's a link with more info.
> http://www.diamondcrystal.com/drin/drin-07.html
>
> I keep a few packs on hand but much prefer the fresh to the mix. We can
> buy fresh apple cider at the orchards or grocery stores and it tastes so
> much nicer than the mix, IMO. The apple cider is non-alcoholic but can
> be converted to alcoholic if you so choose and have the know-how

Thanks Patches - answered my question perfectly!

And we don't have anything like this in the UK. The nearest I can think of
is Apple Tea mix which you can buy [only] in Turkish shops (but isn't
spiced), or a "winter" spiced fruit squash [ = a liquid non-alcoholic
cordial to be diluted with water as you would do with lemonade]. Or fruit
teas (blechhh!) or possibly making my own version with apple juice from a
carton and spices (hardly instant).

If I could find a way to arrange payment, would anyone be good enough to
send me some? It's getting a bit chilly over here in the evenings and I'm on
the hunt for something nice and warming which isn't tea, coffee or hot
chocolate.

Sue
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Pendrake rabbits
Portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK

= . . = (EastneyEnder) wrote:

> Joseph Littleshoes wrote:
> > Oh im sure Harrods will have a version of it, spiced wine is a
> European
> > custom and i would be surprised if any particular major food
> supplier in
> > Britain did not carry some version of it.
>
> Thanks Joseph, but that doesn't really answer my question... What is
> Instant
> Cider mix?
>
> Over here, cider is an alcoholic drink made from apples. I'm sure
> that's not
> what the gentleman put in his morning porridge!

Never can tell, Queen Victoria like a neat drop of scotch in her tea.

Over on this side of the pond there are sold packets of herbs labeled
"Cider mix" for adding to hot apple cider. I cant imagine Britain does
not have some sort of equivalent commercial product.

>
>
> So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple
> juice
> and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is
> why I
> asked about importing it.

I have seen what you are talking about but have never bought them, i
suspect it is only the herbs that would be added to the cider, next time
i am at the store i know sells it i will make a note of contents and
manufacturer.

If i were to desire to serve such a drink, Mulled wine or spiced cider i
would make it with my own herbs, hard cider (alcoholic cider) is easy to
get and some micro breweries make a very good version of it around here,
though im partial to raspberry beer.

One similar recipe i have calls for mace, nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon (some
recipies add corriander) and all spice to be added to brandy, rum, and
slices of apples and left to stand for 3 days before serving.
---
JL

>
>
> Sue
> Portsmouth, UK
> --
> pen-drake location ntl-world-.-com minus hyphens.

"= . . = (EastneyEnder)" > wrote
>
> So I am guessing, some kind of mix made from non-alcoholic dried apple
juice
> and spices? If so, then we have *nothing* like it in the UK, which is why
I
> asked about importing it.
>
> Sue
> Portsmouth, UK

You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
are either very sheltered or an idiot.

Charlie

Charles Gifford wrote:
> You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
> the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
> are either very sheltered or an idiot.

Well thanks, mate.... I'm neither.

I grew up in Somerset where cider - what YOU call HARD cider - is made. Same
place where Cheddar cheese originated, but I guess you didn't know that.
What you eat in the USA bears no relation to what has ever been made there.

10% of Americans have passports, so I am told. Considering I have travelled
in most of Europe, India and South East Asia, plus a lot of the US states,
so how much have you got out lately....?

I do know the difference. And it is not available here. Tell me where,
exactly, and I might listen.

Sorry to come across as bolshy, but if you want to have a poke at me, I'm
allowed to have a poke back.

In article t>,
"Charles Gifford" > wrote:

> You must not get out much. the spice mix is easily available in the U.K. In
> the U.S. cider is the same as in the U.K. There is cider and hard cider. You
> are either very sheltered or an idiot.

Yikes. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? This seems
unlike you.

Regards,
Ranee

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