Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> >> Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> >> <snip>
> >>> There is also the first and second death of Revelation chapter 19:19-21
> >>> to
> >>> chapter 20 to be aware of, as well as Revelation chapter 6:9-11. In the
> >>> meantime, savour every second, for when you finally die and your soul
> >>> passes
> >>> to eternal hell, which goes on forever and ever, your earthly pleasures
> >>> will
> >>> become a curse to you as you commemorate every endless, heartbreaking
> >>> anniversary marking your bodily death.
> >>
> >> Far wiser to seek out the salvation that is available through Lord
> >> Jesus Christ.
> >
> > And through the grace of Christ, medications were developed that may help
> > you. Go back to your psychiatrist today.
> >
> > Jeff
> > Jeff, you are presumptuous in assuming I have ever seen a psychiatrists in
> > the first place.

Yes he is presumptuous in assuming many things... this is the product
of his pride.

In the continued interest of bringing this thread back on-topic for all
NGs receiving this post...

**All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
on-line event that will take place day after tomorrow or Thursay
(11/10/05) from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

There will also likely be other invited guest experts participating to
field medical/diabetes/nutrition/diet/cooking questions (including
Jeff, Bob and Gary if they are able to overcome their fear of the light
that is Christ Jesus. However this is unlikely since they failed to
appear on 11/3/05 when invited. Still one can continue to hope :-).

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how God has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
> >> ups.com...
> >> > Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> >> >> "Jeff" > wrote in message
> >> >> ink.net...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
> >> >> > oups.com...
> >> >> >> Raktizer Omheit wrote:
> >> >> >> <snip>
> >> >> >>> There is also the first and second death of Revelation chapter
> >> >> >>> 19:19-21
> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >>> chapter 20 to be aware of, as well as Revelation chapter 6:9-11.
> >> >> >>> In
> >> >> >>> the
> >> >> >>> meantime, savour every second, for when you finally die and your
> >> >> >>> soul
> >> >> >>> passes
> >> >> >>> to eternal hell, which goes on forever and ever, your earthly
> >> >> >>> pleasures
> >> >> >>> will
> >> >> >>> become a curse to you as you commemorate every endless,
> >> >> >>> heartbreaking
> >> >> >>> anniversary marking your bodily death.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Far wiser to seek out the salvation that is available through Lord
> >> >> >> Jesus Christ.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And through the grace of Christ, medications were developed that
> >> >> > may
> >> >> > help
> >> >> > you. Go back to your psychiatrist today.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jeff
> >> >> > Jeff, you are presumptuous in assuming I have ever seen a
> >> >> > psychiatrists
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the first place.
> >> >
> >> > Yes he is presumptuous in assuming many things... this is the product
> >> > of his pride.
> >> >
> >> > In the continued interest of bringing this thread back on-topic for all
> >> > NGs receiving this post...
> >> >
> >> > **All** participants of USENET are cordially invited to the following
> >> > on-line event that will take place day after tomorrow or Thursay
> >> > (11/10/05) from 6-7 pm EST in Paradise:
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/cpayh
> >> >
> >> > There will also likely be other invited guest experts participating to
> >> > field medical/diabetes/nutrition/diet/cooking questions (including
> >> > Jeff, Bob and Gary if they are able to overcome their fear of the light
> >> > that is Christ Jesus. However this is unlikely since they failed to
> >> > appear on 11/3/05 when invited. Still one can continue to hope :-).
> >> >
> >> > For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
> >> > how God has reshaped me:
> >> >
> >> > http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt
> >> >
> >> > In Christ's love and service forevermore,
> >> >
> >> > Andrew
> >> > --
> >> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
> >> > Board-Certified Cardiologist
> >> >
> >> > **
> >> > Suggested Reading:
> >> > (1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
> >> > (2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
> >> > (3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
> >> > (4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
> >> > (5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
> >> > (6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
> >> > (7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
> >> >
> >> Andrew B. Chung, I myself am a believer in Christianity, but for those
> >> who
> >> practice torture for the N.S.A. and C.I.A. by means of synthetic
> >> telepathy
> >> and subliminal, subconscious brainwashing do not believe in Christianity
> >> at
> >> all, even though they might say they are Christian in public. If you look
> >> at
> >> the web sites posted in my first post in this thread concerning the near
> >> death experience phenomenon, many scientists explain it away as instances
> >> of
> >> photons or electromagnetic informational waves in other words, as string
> >> theory, quantum physics, and even possibly tachyons in operation, even
> >> when
> >> the patient has been resuscitated from clinical death, after experiencing
> >> a
> >> flatline monitoring their brain waves and heartbeats for some time. There
> >> are some highly intelligent sociopaths out there who do not experience a
> >> change of personality after undergoing a near death experience, as rare
> >> and
> >> as abnormal such instances might be.
> >
> > NDE accounts appear to be highly individualized and the experiences
> > seem to be very signficant for each individual. One typically becomes
> > more spiritual after the experience even if there is no change in
> > personality.
> >
> > To bring this thread back on-topic:
> >
> > You are wrong there Dr. Chung, because most people who have had a genuine
> > and verifiable near death experience turn out to be better persons after
> > having undergone a life review, whereby they gain sympathy for their
> > victims after feeling their emtions from their eyes.

There has been no claim that being more spiritual conflicts with being
a "better person."

Nonetheless, would be more than happy to chat about this and other
things like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here
next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love and service now and forever,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
||
|| There has been no claim that being more spiritual conflicts with
|| being a "better person."

You are proving the opposite. You continue to turn people away from Christ
with your consistent crossposting rulebreaking. Your alleged spirituality
has apparently not made YOU a better person.
--
Peter

Marengo,

I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that encourages
wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He would not be
true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he comes into
contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've studied their
faith and understand that this is a key element--endless evangelizing.

While I find it repugnant (based on my beliefs) I do acknowledge his
belief and his freedom to act according to those beliefs as long as he
causes no harm. Some might believe he *does* harm, but again, they are
free to have their beliefs.

I hope you are right, and that people start looking beyond the major
world revealed religions as a result of the actions of the believers of
those religions. I think the world will be a better place if/when
people eventually find beliefs that are more accepting, supportive, and
reality-based.

pc

Please take the off topic posts where they belong - not here. There is now
excuse for such postings.

pinecone wrote:
> Marengo,
>
> I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that encourages
> wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He would not be
> true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he comes into
> contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've studied their
> faith and understand that this is a key element--endless evangelizing.
>
> While I find it repugnant (based on my beliefs) I do acknowledge his
> belief and his freedom to act according to those beliefs as long as he
> causes no harm. Some might believe he *does* harm, but again, they are
> free to have their beliefs.
>
> I hope you are right, and that people start looking beyond the major
> world revealed religions as a result of the actions of the believers of
> those religions. I think the world will be a better place if/when
> people eventually find beliefs that are more accepting, supportive, and
> reality-based.
>
> pc
>

pinecone wrote:
> Marengo,
>
> I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that
encourages
> wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He
would not be
> true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he
comes into
> contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've
studied
> their faith and understand that this is a key
element--endless
> evangelizing.

There is a passage in the bible, and I can't remember where
right now, that says to move on when you are unwelcome. It
also says to preach to the world, not sit in your chair
preaching the word to the same people over and over again.
Chung is not interested in going out to the world.
Christians are also supposed to let the light shine from
them, nothing shines from Chung. You can't be a good example
if no one wants to be near you. My Christian friends glow.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> pinecone wrote:
> > Marengo,
> >
> > I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that
> encourages
> > wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He
> would not be
> > true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he
> comes into
> > contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've
> studied
> > their faith and understand that this is a key
> element--endless
> > evangelizing.
>
> There is a passage in the bible, and I can't remember where
> right now, that says to move on when you are unwelcome. It
> also says to preach to the world, not sit in your chair
> preaching the word to the same people over and over again.
> Chung is not interested in going out to the world.
> Christians are also supposed to let the light shine from
> them, nothing shines from Chung. You can't be a good example
> if no one wants to be near you. My Christian friends glow.
>

Matt.10.14 And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words,
shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town.

Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Diana wrote:
<snip>
> Matt.10.14 And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words,
> shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town.

And that dust will mark the location so that other members of the body
of Christ will not be guided to return.

> Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
> works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Amen :-)

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next
week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Ozgirl wrote:
> pinecone wrote:
> > Marengo,
> >
> > I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that
> encourages
> > wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He
> would not be
> > true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he
> comes into
> > contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've
> studied
> > their faith and understand that this is a key
> element--endless
> > evangelizing.
>
> There is a passage in the bible, and I can't remember where
> right now, that says to move on when you are unwelcome.

That is in reference to physical locations where one can shake the dust
off ones feet to mark the location so that other members of the body of
Christ will not be guided to return.

Would be more than happy to chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

dansawyeror wrote:
> Please take the off topic posts where they belong - not here.

Actually, posts can't be taken anywhere.

> There is now
> excuse for such postings.

Truth is not an excuse.

Would be more than happy to chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

pinecone wrote:
> Marengo,
>
> I have to side with Chung--

Actually, you would be siding with LORD Jesus Christ and not His mere
servant for servants do not lead.

> he belongs to a religion

Actually, I belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my heart, soul,
mind, and strength :-)

Moreover, Jesus Christ is not a religion but LORD and Savior for all
who choose to place their faith in Him.

> that encourages
> wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak.

The LORD teaches from Matthew 28-18-20

"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given me. Therefore go
and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to
obery everything I hav commanded you. And surely I am with you always,
to the very end of the age."

Would be more than happy to chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Marengo wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> ||
> || There has been no claim that being more spiritual conflicts with
> || being a "better person."
>
> You are proving the opposite.

In your opinion.

> You continue to turn people away from Christ
> with your consistent crossposting rulebreaking.

Purposeful crossposting is not illegal.

> Your alleged spirituality
> has apparently not made YOU a better person.

More opinion.

Would be more than happy to chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Diana wrote:

>>There is a passage in the bible, and I can't remember where
>>right now, that says to move on when you are unwelcome. It
>>also says to preach to the world, not sit in your chair
>>preaching the word to the same people over and over again.
>>Chung is not interested in going out to the world.
>>Christians are also supposed to let the light shine from
>>them, nothing shines from Chung. You can't be a good example
>>if no one wants to be near you. My Christian friends glow.
>>
>
>
> Matt.10.14 And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words,
> shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town.
>
> Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
> works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

If only AndyCap would heed these passages.

I would love to see him shaking virtual dust from his feet as he
vanished over the usenet horizon, never to return.

From then on to only see his "good works", not incessantly hear about
how good he thinks he is would be a very welcome change.

Unfortunately it seems that Andy regards himself as the "Jesus Bolt" of
modern Christianity. He sees himself as pivotal to the religion, rather
than as the very small, somewhat irritating smudge on the lens of life
that he actually is.

BTW "Jesus Bolt" is an expression from my hang-gliding days. It was the
bolt that held everything together; if it failed you got to meet Jesus
rather sooner than you might have been expecting.


Regards

David
--

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All other mail is automatically deleted.

"J. David Anderson" wrote:
>
> Diana wrote:
>
> >>There is a passage in the bible, and I can't remember where
> >>right now, that says to move on when you are unwelcome. It
> >>also says to preach to the world, not sit in your chair
> >>preaching the word to the same people over and over again.
> >>Chung is not interested in going out to the world.
> >>Christians are also supposed to let the light shine from
> >>them, nothing shines from Chung. You can't be a good example
> >>if no one wants to be near you. My Christian friends glow.
> >
> > Matt.10.14 And if any one will not receive you or listen to your words,
> > shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town.
> >
> > Matt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good
> > works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
>
> If only AndyCap would heed these passages.

Not writing for AndyCap, whoever that is, but it remains my choice to
continue walking with Lord Jesus Christ.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next
week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Don Kirkman wrote:
> [Follow-up set to sci.med.cardiology]
>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that pinecone wrote in article
> . com>:
>
> >I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that encourages
> >wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He would not be
> >true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he comes into
> >contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've studied their
> >faith and understand that this is a key element--endless evangelizing.
>
> No, he belongs to a small minority within the entire Judeo-Christian
> community.

The Trinity is indeed a minority albeit a minority that possesses all
the power and glory :-) It remains my choice to be the bond-servant of
the LORD and to continue to walk with Him.

> Proselytization, broadly interpreted, is **sharing** one's
> beliefs and the reasons for them, and most religionists are able to do
> that without confronting, affronting, demeaning, ridiculing, or
> otherwise mistreating those whom they would "save."

It remains my choice to obey GOD and fulfill His purpose for me here,
which is to inform. It is LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength, Who saves.

> Chung's behavior in
> these newsgroups does not rise to that standard.

In your opinion.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next
week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Don Kirkman wrote:
> Follow-up returned to sci.med.cardiology from the cross-posting the good
> doctor insists on.

The LORD guides me in all that I say, do, or write :-)

> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article . com>:
>
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> [Follow-up set to sci.med.cardiology]
>
> >> It seems to me I heard somewhere that pinecone wrote in article
> >> . com>:
>
> >> >I have to side with Chung--he belongs to a religion that encourages
> >> >wearing one's religion on one's sleeve, so to speak. He would not be
> >> >true to his faith if he did not prosyletize to everyone he comes into
> >> >contact with. Although I find born-agains tiresome, I've studied their
> >> >faith and understand that this is a key element--endless evangelizing.
>
> >> No, he belongs to a small minority within the entire Judeo-Christian
> >> community.
>
> >The Trinity is indeed a minority albeit a minority that possesses all
> >the power and glory :-)
>
> Unless you are a member of the Trinity this is irrelevant to the
> discussion.

It has been my choice to remain as a bond-servant of the Trinity,
thereby belonging to Him :-)

> > It remains my choice to be the bond-servant of
> >the LORD and to continue to walk with Him.
>
> As I said (and which you apparently chose to misunderstand) your walk is
> that of a small minority of all those, past and present, who have
> followed the Christian way. Parts of your walk seem to be only your
> own, not shared with any other community.

Each person's walk is his/her own, not shared by any other in the
community.

> >> Proselytization, broadly interpreted, is **sharing** one's
> >> beliefs and the reasons for them, and most religionists are able to do
> >> that without confronting, affronting, demeaning, ridiculing, or
> >> otherwise mistreating those whom they would "save."
>
> >It remains my choice to obey GOD and fulfill His purpose for me here,
> >which is to inform. It is LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my
> >heart, soul, mind, and strength, Who saves.
>
> To inform requires content;

Correct. Folks can find plenty of content authored by me (with GOD's
help) via the Google archives. It is to GOD's glory that the amount of
content is more than humanly possible.

> you routinely refuse to provide content when
> your bald assertions are questioned

It remains my choice to ignore what is untrue.

> --a failure which you often blame on
> God.

<ignore>

> >> Chung's behavior in
> >> these newsgroups does not rise to that standard.
>
> >In your opinion.
>
> And in that of many others, apparently.

Only the LORD's judgment matters.

> >Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
> >like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest you here next
> >week:
>
> Women "glow", real men sweat.

It is written that just as lamps glow uncovered, the works of the LORD
should be publicized so that He receives all the praise and glory.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here next week:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the Lord has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
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(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Don Kirkman wrote:
> The LORD obviously misguided Andy to annoy the usual array of
> newsgroups.

In your opinion.

> I wonder what marks Andy got in kindergarten for "Plays
> well with others."

This is not a game for me.

> AAR, once again reset to smc.

Your choice.

<snip>

> >The LORD guides me in all that I say, do, or write :-)
>
> But you have no evidence for that assertion, merely an intuition or some
> passing confluence of brain cell activity.

You write out of ignorance.

<snip>

> >> >The Trinity is indeed a minority albeit a minority that possesses all
> >> >the power and glory :-)
>
> >> Unless you are a member of the Trinity this is irrelevant to the
> >> discussion.
>
> >It has been my choice to remain as a bond-servant of the Trinity,
> >thereby belonging to Him :-)
>
> You love word games, Andy

Again, this is not a game for me.

<snip>

> >> As I said (and which you apparently chose to misunderstand) your walk is
> >> that of a small minority of all those, past and present, who have
> >> followed the Christian way. Parts of your walk seem to be only your
> >> own, not shared with any other community.
>
> >Each person's walk is his/her own, not shared by any other in the
> >community.
>
> You seem to have overlooked one of the basic teachings of the Christian
> tradition--one based on centuries of Jewish history. According to the
> ancient Apostles Creed,
>
> "I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic Church; the communion of
> saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the
> life everlasting. AMEN."
>
> [NOTE" small "c" catholic means "universal"]
>
> Perhaps God has given you a special dispensation to abandon what the
> church has believed and taught. Not!

It remains my choice to continue walking with the LORD and to continue
obeying Him.

John 21:21-22


> [. . .]
>
> >> >It remains my choice to obey GOD and fulfill His purpose for me here,
> >> >which is to inform. It is LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my
> >> >heart, soul, mind, and strength, Who saves.
>
> >> To inform requires content;
>
> >Correct. Folks can find plenty of content authored by me (with GOD's
> >help) via the Google archives. It is to GOD's glory that the amount of
> >content is more than humanly possible.
>
> There are plenty of *words* you have written, but they are as dry leaves
> before the wind, withered and dying; the life has gone out of them.

Without the LORD, there is no life.

> You
> routinely refuse to give facts in support own your own (words-only)
> assertions or to respond to the questions and observations of others.

It remains your choice to ignore the truth.

> Therefore I concluded
>
> >> you routinely refuse to provide content when
> >> your bald assertions are questioned
>
> >It remains my choice to ignore what is untrue.
>
> Obviously it also remains your choice not to engage in any discussion
> with others of your vapid opinions

What I discern are not opinions.

> >> --a failure which you often blame on
> >> God
>
> by subterfuges such as claiming God's time is not right

It remains your choice to bear false witness.

> or that God has
> instructed you not to share information you claim to have available.

More false witness.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here this Thursday:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Don Kirkman wrote:
>
> It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
> article .com>:
>
> >Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> The LORD obviously misguided Andy to annoy the usual array of
> >> newsgroups.
>
> >In your opinion.
>
> >> I wonder what marks Andy got in kindergarten for "Plays
> >> well with others."
>
> >This is not a game for me.
>
> No, because games have rules that players have agreed on.

No, this is not a game for me because I am not playing. My purpose here
remains to inform.

> You pay no
> attention to the rules the designers and users of newsgroups have agreed
> on.

Actually, my purpose here is completely in line with the rules that the
designers and users of newsgroups have agreed upon. This would not be
the case if my purpose here was to play.

> The point remains that you do not "play" well with others.

You have not seen me play to know one way or the other. For this
reason, you continue to write out of ignorance.

> >> AAR, once again reset to smc.
>
> >Your choice.
>
> Blindingly obvious, since I DID choose to do so.

It remains my choice to underscore your possession of the free will that
the LORD has given you.

> >> >The LORD guides me in all that I say, do, or write :-)
>
> >> But you have no evidence for that assertion, merely an intuition or some
> >> passing confluence of brain cell activity.
>
> >You write out of ignorance.
>
> You write without evidence.

The writing is itself evidence.

> If you had any you would disclose it.

That which is self-evident is already disclosed.

> >> >> >The Trinity is indeed a minority albeit a minority that possesses all
> >> >> >the power and glory :-)
>
> >> >> Unless you are a member of the Trinity this is irrelevant to the
> >> >> discussion.
>
> >> >It has been my choice to remain as a bond-servant of the Trinity,
> >> >thereby belonging to Him :-)
>
> >> You love word games, Andy
>
> >Again, this is not a game for me.
>
> Nevertheless

It would be your choice to disregard the truth.

> your behavior is that of a person playing games rather than
> of a person engaging others in honest discussion.

In your opinion.

> ><snip>
>
> >> >> As I said (and which you apparently chose to misunderstand) your walk is
> >> >> that of a small minority of all those, past and present, who have
> >> >> followed the Christian way. Parts of your walk seem to be only your
> >> >> own, not shared with any other community.
>
> >> >Each person's walk is his/her own, not shared by any other in the
> >> >community.
>
> >> You seem to have overlooked one of the basic teachings of the Christian
> >> tradition--one based on centuries of Jewish history. According to the
> >> ancient Apostles Creed,
>
> >> "I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic Church; the communion of
> >> saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the
> >> life everlasting. AMEN."
>
> >> [NOTE" small "c" catholic means "universal"]
>
> >> Perhaps God has given you a special dispensation to abandon what the
> >> church has believed and taught. Not!
>
> >It remains my choice to continue walking with the LORD and to continue
> >obeying Him.
>
> So you seemingly have chosen to forsake the fellowship of the saints
> within the Christian community.

Sanctification is not complete until departure from this world.

> >John 21:21-22
>
> Which says nothing about your choice to live outside the community
> tradition.

It does for those who are able to discern the truth.

> "When Peter saw him, he said to Jesus, 'Lord, what about
> this man?' Jesus said to him , 'If it is my will that he remain until I
> come, what is that to you? Follow me!'" is about Peter asking Jesus
> what would happen to a fellow disciple;

Yes, on the surface.

> Jesus says that is not really
> Peter's business to worry about.

.... and that each person's walk with Christ will be his/her own, not
shared with others.

> As I've suggested before, you really
> should get some good reference books and learn the meanings of some of
> the texts you toss out.

It remains my choice to keep my eyes focused on LORD Jesus Christ, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength :-)

> >> >> >It remains my choice to obey GOD and fulfill His purpose for me here,
> >> >> >which is to inform. It is LORD Jesus Christ, Whom I love with all my
> >> >> >heart, soul, mind, and strength, Who saves.
>
> >> >> To inform requires content;
>
> >> >Correct. Folks can find plenty of content authored by me (with GOD's
> >> >help) via the Google archives. It is to GOD's glory that the amount of
> >> >content is more than humanly possible.
>
> >> There are plenty of *words* you have written, but they are as dry leaves
> >> before the wind, withered and dying; the life has gone out of them.
>
> >Without the LORD, there is no life.
>
> Ah, so your lifeless logomachy is because you are without the LORD,
> perhaps.

It would be your choice to keep guessing.

> >> You
> >> routinely refuse to give facts in support own your own (words-only)
> >> assertions or to respond to the questions and observations of others.
>
> >It remains your choice to ignore the truth.
>
> When you finally begin to write truths they will be recognized for what
> they are.

They already have by those who are able to discern the truth.

> Meantime your failure to provide support for your medical
> opinions and your religious opinions reveals much about the workings of
> your mind.

In your opinion.

> >> Therefore I concluded
>
> >> >> you routinely refuse to provide content when
> >> >> your bald assertions are questioned
>
> >> >It remains my choice to ignore what is untrue.
>
> >> Obviously it also remains your choice not to engage in any discussion
> >> with others of your vapid opinions
>
> >What I discern are not opinions.
>
> No, what you discern is nothing more than your own opinions about God
> and your fellow men.

The truth is not opinion.

> You have no evidence to support them.

The truth is its own evidence.

> >> >> --a failure which you often blame on
> >> >> God
>
> >> by subterfuges such as claiming God's time is not right
>
> >It remains your choice to bear false witness.
>
> You must be joking,

No.

> or have you forgotten how often you have invoked
> God's telling you not to reveal the facts about the great numbers of
> 2PDiet experimenters

More false witness.

> or, within the past few days, that the time is not
> right to post transcripts of your chats?

Gary's time is not right. However, God's time is always right.

> Two examples of many.

Many have chosen to bear false witness.

> >> or that God has
> >> instructed you not to share information you claim to have available.
>
> >More false witness.
>
> Show me the falsehood in my previous paragraph.

The LORD has not instructed me to not share information with others.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here this Thursday:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

In Christ's love always,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129