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I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to
see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and tons of sugar. I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! Ronnie |
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![]() > wrote in message oups.com... >I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to > see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the > same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and > tons of sugar. > > I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! > > Ronnie PBS Dimitri |
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elaine wrote:
> Well, I probably won't cancel but I've been really disappointed lately > because I used to enjoy watching Christine Cushing - not only have the > changed the time of her show, but she's all dolled up, has strange eye > makeup and new hair 'do'. Damn, just not the same. > > And every time I turn to watch Food TV, Emeril is on - I'm not crazy about > him - way too phoney. And I don't like the baking stuff. I have mixed feelings about Emeril. I hate it when he talks about 40 or 50 cloves of garlic when he is using 5 or 6, and the audience roars in approval, as if they could stomach anything with that much garlic. He gives the impression when using some ingredients that if a little is good a lot is better. I cringe when I see him make a nice dessert and garnishes it with a sprinkle of icing sugar and then gives 3 or 4 BAMs to overdo it and ruin a nice presentation. However...... I have tried a number of his recipes and had wonderful results. The chocolate chocolate cake with chocolate ganache and chocolate sails was terrific. Even so, I had a problem with the quantities. The recipe called for a hell of a lot of chocolate, which is an expensive ingredient. The problem was that it called for way more than was needed. I used heavy cream and melted chocolate chips for the ganache, as per the recipe. I had enough left over for another cake. Then I made the chocolate sails which is mainly a garnish. I had enough for three cakes. If the recipe had the amounts that were actually needed it would probably cost about half as much for ingredients. The rest was waste, and very expensive waste. The French Canadian Pea Soup was great. The Sauguanie Tortiere was great, The Tarte au Scre was incredible. I made that one because we happened to have some maple sugar hanging around the house for years. I went to the local maple farm to get some more and just about fell off the floor when I saw the price of it. It would have cost me about $20 for enough of that stuff to make another one. I did try it again but adjusted it to substitute maple syrup for the maple sugar. |
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![]() "Dimitri" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > oups.com... > >I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to > > see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the > > same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and > > tons of sugar. > > > > I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! > > > > Ronnie > > PBS > > Dimitri Except that PBS has THE worst cooking program ever..."America's Test Kitchen". I enjoy the Food Channel very much. I am not a fan of Emril though I respect his abilities and knowledge. I actually enjoy Iron Chef America though not the original program. I dislike "Semi-Homemade". Most of the rest I enjoy or at least appreciate. I do dislike the constant repetitions though. I'd rather see repeats of old programs than multiple repeats of current programs. I wish Jamie Oliver was on the food channel! He is so damn cute! Charlie |
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I agree, America's Test Kitchen is really bad, I saw it a couple of
times and I disliked it. I wish Food TV has an Indian Cooking show ![]() Ronnie |
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![]() > wrote >I agree, America's Test Kitchen is really bad, I saw it a couple of > times and I disliked it. I wish Food TV has an Indian Cooking show ![]() Well, what are you waiting for! I think you still have time to try for the next foodtv star! I was so disappointed, I was waiting for that new show to start, Sugar Rush? with that hottie from Washington DC ... I only caught a quick glimpse of it and found that it's not him baking, he's a fabulous baker, but just goes around looking at other people baking? Am I wrong? FoodTV has really lost it. More and more shows about food other people cook ... Unwrapped??? It was okay as a one time thing. How many times can I see candy coating machines, I get the idea! nancy |
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![]() "Charles Gifford" > wrote in message ink.net... snip > Except that PBS has THE worst cooking program ever..."America's Test > Kitchen". I enjoy the Food Channel very much. I am not a fan of Emril > though > I respect his abilities and knowledge. I actually enjoy Iron Chef America > though not the original program. I dislike "Semi-Homemade". Most of the > rest > I enjoy or at least appreciate. I do dislike the constant repetitions > though. I'd rather see repeats of old programs than multiple repeats of > current programs. I wish Jamie Oliver was on the food channel! He is so > damn cute! > > Charlie > He is (Jamie Oliver), he's just been cycled to Saturdays or Sundays. I like Iron Chef America too. You can learn a lot by watching them take basic recipes and tweak them to focus the secret ingredient. Janet |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: > I don't often watch America's test kitchens, but I have enjoyed the > episodes that I have seen. It tends to be more about cooking and > particular dishes that about some wannabe celebrity cook's performance. > It would be nice to see some shows with more cultural diversity, (oh shit > I am starting to sound PC). It would be nice to learn how to do dishes > from various ethnic groups without having to deal with fusion. Food TV used to run Melting Pot, a program full of cultural diversity and quite often terrific recipes. Not "white bread" enough for some viewers, perhaps?? America's Test Kitchen is usually about technique and the "best" way to prepare a certain dish. Some of the experiments are very successful, others less so. I pick and choose. Spitz -- "Home, James, and don't spare the horses!" |
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Charles Gifford wrote:
> "Dimitri" > wrote in message > ... > > wrote in message groups.com... >> >>>I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to >>>see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the >>>same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and >>>tons of sugar. >>> >>>I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! >>> >>>Ronnie >> >>PBS >> >>Dimitri > > > Except that PBS has THE worst cooking program ever..."America's Test > Kitchen". I enjoy the Food Channel very much. I am not a fan of Emril though > I respect his abilities and knowledge. I actually enjoy Iron Chef America > though not the original program. I dislike "Semi-Homemade". Most of the rest > I enjoy or at least appreciate. I do dislike the constant repetitions > though. I'd rather see repeats of old programs than multiple repeats of > current programs. I wish Jamie Oliver was on the food channel! He is so > damn cute! > > Charlie > > I too enjoy Food TV. I've never seen Semi-Homemade and checking foodtv.ca shows it isn't offered. I really enjoy Christine Cushing, Unwrapped, Top 5, Chef at Home, Barefoot Contessa, and several of the other shows. I'm not all that fond of Iron Chef. I watch Emeril occasionally. I'll have to check out America's Test Kitchen just to see what it is like. |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> FoodTV has really lost it. More and more shows about food other > people cook ... Unwrapped??? It was okay as a one time thing. > How many times can I see candy coating machines, I get the idea! > > nancy Ooooooooooh, I can't stand that host either! He makes my skin crawl. I dunno why? Waste of good tube time, if you ask me? Can I please have "Two Fat Ladies" back in reruns.. pleaseeeee? Goomba |
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:14:34 -0500, Nancy Young wrote:
> Unwrapped??? It was okay as a one time thing. "Unwrapped"? Is that a show on FoodTV? Oh, wait, you mean "The Conveyor Belt Show"! -- -Jeff B. zoomie at fastmail fm |
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![]() "Yeff" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:14:34 -0500, Nancy Young wrote: > >> Unwrapped??? It was okay as a one time thing. > > "Unwrapped"? Is that a show on FoodTV? Oh, wait, you mean "The Conveyor > Belt Show"! (laugh!) You know it, the very same! nancy |
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![]() "Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... > wrote: > >> I agree, America's Test Kitchen is really bad, I saw it a couple of >> times and I disliked it. I wish Food TV has an Indian Cooking show ![]() >> > > I don't often watch America's test kitchens, but I have enjoyed the > episodes that I have seen. It tends to be more about cooking and > particular dishes that about some wannabe celebrity cook's > performance. > It would be nice to see some shows with more cultural diversity, (oh > shit > I am starting to sound PC). It would be nice to learn how to do > dishes > from various ethnic groups without having to deal with fusion. I like America's Test Kitchen too. I don't mind basic-level cooking shows (I'm no great cook myself) as long as they focus on knowledge and technique, rather than simply shortcut recipes (like Sandra Lee does). Ming is on right before ATK where I live, and he provides some diversity. -T |
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Moriarty wrote:
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > wrote: >> >> >>>I agree, America's Test Kitchen is really bad, I saw it a couple of >>>times and I disliked it. I wish Food TV has an Indian Cooking show ![]() >>> >> >>I don't often watch America's test kitchens, but I have enjoyed the >>episodes that I have seen. It tends to be more about cooking and >>particular dishes that about some wannabe celebrity cook's >>performance. >>It would be nice to see some shows with more cultural diversity, (oh >>shit >>I am starting to sound PC). It would be nice to learn how to do >>dishes >>from various ethnic groups without having to deal with fusion. > > > I like America's Test Kitchen too. I don't mind basic-level cooking > shows (I'm no great cook myself) as long as they focus on knowledge and > technique, rather than simply shortcut recipes (like Sandra Lee does). I've never seen Sandra Lee. It isn't offered on the Canadian Foodtv. I don't mind basic-level cooking because sometimes you learn a new tip and I don't mind the occasional shortcut because everyone uses shortcuts sometimes. > > Ming is on right before ATK where I live, and he provides some > diversity. > > -T > > |
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~patches~ wrote:
>> I like America's Test Kitchen too. I don't mind basic-level cooking >> shows (I'm no great cook myself) as long as they focus on knowledge and >> technique, rather than simply shortcut recipes (like Sandra Lee does). > > I've never seen Sandra Lee. It isn't offered on the Canadian Foodtv. I > don't mind basic-level cooking because sometimes you learn a new tip and > I don't mind the occasional shortcut because everyone uses shortcuts > sometimes. > >> >> Ming is on right before ATK where I live, and he provides some >> diversity. I enjoy Lidia's Italian American cooking shows on PBS. She takes her sweet time, explains everything well and she's just a neat gal. I also like it when she has her Mom on the show. Andy |
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![]() "Andy" <q> wrote in message .. . > ~patches~ wrote: > >>> I like America's Test Kitchen too. I don't mind basic-level cooking >>> shows (I'm no great cook myself) as long as they focus on knowledge > and >>> technique, rather than simply shortcut recipes (like Sandra Lee does). >> >> I've never seen Sandra Lee. It isn't offered on the Canadian Foodtv. > I >> don't mind basic-level cooking because sometimes you learn a new tip > and >> I don't mind the occasional shortcut because everyone uses shortcuts >> sometimes. >> >>> >>> Ming is on right before ATK where I live, and he provides some >>> diversity. > > > I enjoy Lidia's Italian American cooking shows on PBS. She takes her > sweet time, explains everything well and she's just a neat gal. I also > like it when she has her Mom on the show. > > Andy It seems that there are only 2 or 3 cooking shows on PBS (here in the Harrisonburg, VA area) and that is on Saturday morning. I usually watch America's Test Kitchen. I do have Dish, but I have my 'local' stations locked out, such as D.C. and PBS, and don't subscribe to them with Dish. I used to love to watch the how-to art shows, but they never seem to happen anymore either. It's been a long time since they had anything as good as the BBC production of "Art of the Western World." That was a life-time ago. Dee Dee |
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![]() elaine wrote: > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message > ... > > wrote: > > > >> I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to > >> see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the > >> same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and > >> tons of sugar. > >> > >> I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! > > > > I have been debating cancelling the package on my satellite that includes > > Food TV (Canada). That station is the only reason for the package, and I > > have not been impressed with the offerings on that station. Half the time > > that I think of watching it they have Iron Chef, which I always > > considered to be more of a comedy, along the lines of the old Woody Allen > > movie "What's Up Tiger Lily". > > Well, I probably won't cancel but I've been really disappointed lately > because I used to enjoy watching Christine Cushing - not only have the > changed the time of her show, but she's all dolled up, has strange eye > makeup and new hair 'do'. Damn, just not the same. > > And every time I turn to watch Food TV, Emeril is on - I'm not crazy about > him - way too phoney. And I don't like the baking stuff. > > Hey, perhaps I should cancel! > > E. Too much Emeril, too much Rachel....that's it in a nutshell. I'm also really, really tired of Mark Summer and his "unwrapped," and especially his hesitant way of speaking which I guess is for emphasis. It is SO annoying. N. |
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![]() Goomba38 wrote: > Nancy Young wrote: > > > FoodTV has really lost it. More and more shows about food other > > people cook ... Unwrapped??? It was okay as a one time thing. > > How many times can I see candy coating machines, I get the idea! > > > > nancy > > Ooooooooooh, I can't stand that host either! He makes my skin crawl. I > dunno why? Waste of good tube time, if you ask me? > Can I please have "Two Fat Ladies" back in reruns.. pleaseeeee? > Goomba Mark makes your skin crawl because of the heavy pancake makeup they make him wear. It makes him look like he's got a vinyl face, like an old 50s or 60s baby doll. LOL. N. |
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![]() "Nancy1" > wrote in message oups.com... snip > Mark makes your skin crawl because of the heavy pancake makeup they > make him wear. It makes him look like he's got a vinyl face, like an > old 50s or 60s baby doll. LOL. > > N. Serious question. . .was he a game show host a long time ago? I keep thinking that I recognize his face from something. Janet |
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![]() "Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message ... > > "Nancy1" > wrote in message > oups.com... > snip >> Mark makes your skin crawl because of the heavy pancake makeup they >> make him wear. It makes him look like he's got a vinyl face, like an >> old 50s or 60s baby doll. LOL. >> >> N. > Serious question. . .was he a game show host a long time ago? I keep > thinking that I recognize his face from something. He had a talk show with Cissy Biggers (sp) for a while. She went on to host some Ready Set Cook show. nancy |
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![]() "Spitzmaus" > wrote > Dave Smith wrote: >> I am starting to sound PC). It would be nice to learn how to do dishes >> from various ethnic groups without having to deal with fusion. > Food TV used to run Melting Pot, a program full of cultural diversity and > quite often terrific recipes. Not "white bread" enough for some viewers, > perhaps?? So many shows come and go, you can't blame it on that. nancy |
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Nancy1 wrote:
> elaine wrote: > >>"Dave Smith" > wrote in message ... >> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I have been meaning to say this for quite some time now. It is sad to >>>>see the new chefs on FoodTV, they are all doing the same recipes, the >>>>same way! Its so boring. And everyone's using heavy cream, butter and >>>>tons of sugar. >>>> >>>>I dont know where to go for innovative recipes on TV! >>> >>>I have been debating cancelling the package on my satellite that includes >>>Food TV (Canada). That station is the only reason for the package, and I >>>have not been impressed with the offerings on that station. Half the time >>>that I think of watching it they have Iron Chef, which I always >>>considered to be more of a comedy, along the lines of the old Woody Allen >>>movie "What's Up Tiger Lily". >> >>Well, I probably won't cancel but I've been really disappointed lately >>because I used to enjoy watching Christine Cushing - not only have the >>changed the time of her show, but she's all dolled up, has strange eye >>makeup and new hair 'do'. Damn, just not the same. >> >>And every time I turn to watch Food TV, Emeril is on - I'm not crazy about >>him - way too phoney. And I don't like the baking stuff. >> >>Hey, perhaps I should cancel! >> >>E. > > > Too much Emeril, too much Rachel....that's it in a nutshell. I'm also > really, really tired of Mark Summer and his "unwrapped," and especially > his hesitant way of speaking which I guess is > for emphasis. It is SO annoying. > > N. > I don't mind Mark and I do enjoy Unwrapped <shrug> I think a lot of posters here at least expect the foodtv network to focus only on cooking and nothing eles but it is called foodtv not cooktv. For that reason they do have shows that don't focus on cooking but rather on how food is made, processed, tidbits about food origins, eating in restaurants, running restaurants, entertaining, etc. I like that element myself. I find that if I don't care for a show it is easier and more productive to *change the channel* rather than complain about it. What I would like to see on foodtv is a show similar to The Shopping Bag on Wnetwork that compares 4 brands of an item to see which one does as promised or is the best. |
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![]() "~patches~" > wrote > I don't mind Mark and I do enjoy Unwrapped <shrug> I think a lot of > posters here at least expect the foodtv network to focus only on cooking > and nothing eles but it is called foodtv not cooktv. I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything like that. > For that reason they do have shows that don't focus on cooking but rather > on how food is made, processed, tidbits about food origins, eating in > restaurants, running restaurants, entertaining, etc. I like that element > myself. I find that if I don't care for a show it is easier and more > productive to *change the channel* rather than complain about it. If we wanted to change the channel, we do. Sometimes we'd like to turn it on and see something besides the 10 millionth demonstration of a chocolate coater. > What I would like to see on foodtv is a show similar to The Shopping Bag > on Wnetwork that compares 4 brands of an item to see which one does as > promised or is the best. Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. nancy |
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He was also the host of "Double Dare" (or something very close to that).
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![]() Janet Bostwick wrote: > Serious question. . .was he a game show host a long time ago? I keep > thinking that I recognize his face from something. > Janet > > he hosts a game show on the history channel called 'history iq' or something like that. i don't know if it's still active or they just dug it up out of their archives for filler. |
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Nancy Young wrote:
> "~patches~" > wrote > > >>I don't mind Mark and I do enjoy Unwrapped <shrug> I think a lot of >>posters here at least expect the foodtv network to focus only on cooking >>and nothing eles but it is called foodtv not cooktv. > > > I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything like that. It's not that it is said directly more overtly implied that foodtv should be about cooking only. > > >> For that reason they do have shows that don't focus on cooking but rather >>on how food is made, processed, tidbits about food origins, eating in >>restaurants, running restaurants, entertaining, etc. I like that element >>myself. I find that if I don't care for a show it is easier and more >>productive to *change the channel* rather than complain about it. > > > If we wanted to change the channel, we do. Sometimes we'd like to > turn it on and see something besides the 10 millionth demonstration of > a chocolate coater. > It's really only one or possibly two shows that show this kind of thing and not on every show either so I don't see the problem. Just because you've seen it doesn't mean someone just tuning in has seen it. I think it is rather interesting to see how foods are packaged even though I don't buy that kind of thing. Anyway the way some carry on over certain shows or certain hosts certainly gives the impression that turning the channel is not an option. Really, I find it boring to hear the bitching and complaining compared to watching the actual show. Oh well, that's what filters are for. > >>What I would like to see on foodtv is a show similar to The Shopping Bag >>on Wnetwork that compares 4 brands of an item to see which one does as >>promised or is the best. > > > Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. > I'll have to see if we get it. We have Bell satellite so am not sure. I'd like to see it for myself if possible. > nancy > > |
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Nancy Young wrote:
>> What I would like to see on foodtv is a show similar to The Shopping >> Bag on Wnetwork that compares 4 brands of an item to see which one >> does as promised or is the best. > > Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. Andy |
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Andy wrote:
> Nancy Young wrote: > > Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. > > > I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated > peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear > winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. Why is that silly? Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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Default User wrote:
> Andy wrote: > >> Nancy Young wrote: > > >> > Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. >> >> >> I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated >> peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear >> winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. > > > Why is that silly? It was silly, imho. Andy |
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~patches~ wrote:
> I don't mind Mark and I do enjoy Unwrapped <shrug> I think a lot of > posters here at least expect the foodtv network to focus only on cooking > and nothing eles but it is called foodtv not cooktv. For that reason > they do have shows that don't focus on cooking but rather on how food is > made, processed, tidbits about food origins, eating in restaurants, > running restaurants, entertaining, etc. I like that element myself. I > find that if I don't care for a show it is easier and more productive to > *change the channel* rather than complain about it. What I would like to > see on foodtv is a show similar to The Shopping Bag on Wnetwork that > compares 4 brands of an item to see which one does as promised or is the > best. I find the channel is aiming for a lower common denominator nowadays. I think they could do all you list and yet still strive to a higher level of food and cooking more than they have lately. It seems they've "dumbed " it all down a bit too much? Goomba |
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Andy wrote:
>>Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. > > > > I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated > peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear > winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. > > Andy Actually I like America's Test Kitchen. It is run and presented very much like Consumers Report magazine, which I also like. I like to see what the various options are and what they look for, and why they choose what they do. |
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Andy wrote:
> Default User wrote: > > > Andy wrote: > >> I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated > >> peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear > >> winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. > > Why is that silly? > > > It was silly, imho. Ok. That's not much of a reason. You should be able to give some reason why you think it's silly, but if you can't, you can't. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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![]() "Goomba38" > wrote in message ... > Andy wrote: > > >>>Watch America's Test Kitchen, they do that. >> >> >> >> I saw one of their shows this morning on PBS. They actually rated >> peelers. The Oxy "I" Series (with replacable blades) being a clear >> winner. It was so silly, I thought I was still dreaming. >> >> Andy > > Actually I like America's Test Kitchen. It is run and presented very much > like Consumers Report magazine, which I also like. I like to see what the > various options are and what they look for, and why they choose what they > do. I've never figured out who the testers are. That would make some difference in whether I would pay any attention to their opinion(s). It's just like choosing a book. One pays close attention to the author -- at least I do. Dee Dee |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:40:16 -0700, "Janet Bostwick"
> wrote: > >"Nancy1" > wrote in message roups.com... >snip >> Mark makes your skin crawl because of the heavy pancake makeup they >> make him wear. It makes him look like he's got a vinyl face, like an >> old 50s or 60s baby doll. LOL. >> >> N. >Serious question. . .was he a game show host a long time ago? I keep >thinking that I recognize his face from something. >Janet > "History IQ on the History channel. They do reruns at 6 am on Sat. or Sun. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974 |
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