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Prime Rib
From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this roast is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib is a showstopper, often the centerpiece of a holiday meal, but why not enjoy it all year? It's especially delicious when slow cooked in a smoker and subtly flavored by hickory. Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat, and many grocery stores don't carry Prime cuts. Instead, look for a Choice rib roast (also known as a standing rib roast) with marbling€”the white fat that runs through the meat€”distributed as evenly as possible throughout. Some folks insist that a USDA Prime rib roast is worth the occasional splurge (and with prices starting around $20 per pound, it's definitely an indulgence). You can order Prime meat from butchers such as Niman Ranch or Lobel's. When your prime rib has finished cooking, two steps will keep the meat as moist and tender as possible. First, let the roast stand at least 15 minutes. This prevents the juices from running out when the meat is cut. Then, when you're ready to serve the roast, slice across the grain of the meat. This makes the dish even more tender. Smoked Prime Rib Hickory wood chunks 4 garlic cloves, minced 1 tablespoon salt 2 tablespoons coarsely ground pepper 1 tablespoon dried rosemary 1 teaspoon dried thyme 1 (6-pound) beef rib roast 1 1/2 cups dry red wine 1 1/2 cups red wine vinegar 1/2 cup olive oil Soak wood chunks in water 1 hour. Combine minced garlic and next 4 ingredients, and rub garlic mixture evenly over beef roast. Stir together dry red wine, red wine vinegar, and olive oil; set wine mixture aside. Prepare charcoal fire in smoker; let burn 15 to 20 minutes. Drain wood chunks, and place on coals. Place water pan in smoker, and add water to just below fill line. Place beef roast in center on lower food rack. Gradually pour wine mixture over beef roast. Cook beef roast, covered, 6 hours or until a meat thermometer inserted into thickest portion of beef roast registers 145° (medium), adding more water to depth of fill line, if necessary. Remove beef roast from smoker, and let stand 15 minutes before slicing. Southern Living, JULY 2002 --- ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> Prime Rib > From Southern Living 145 F is overcooked for prime rib. It should be more like 135 F. -- Reg email: RegForte (at) (that free MS email service) (dot) com |
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![]() "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote: > > >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually refers to > >the USDA grade of the meat.... > > Wrong. > You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib lies between the sixth and twelfth rib. |
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![]() "PENMART01" > wrote in message ... > Prime Rib > From Southern Living > Tender and juicy, this roast is a crowd-pleaser any time of the year. > Prime rib is a showstopper, often the centerpiece of a holiday meal, but why > not enjoy it all year? It's especially delicious when slow cooked in a smoker > and subtly flavored by hickory. > > Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually refers to > the USDA grade of the meat... IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case. "Prime Rib" refers to the cut consisting of the portion between the 6th and 13th ribs. |
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PENMART01 wrote:
> Cook beef roast, covered, 6 hours or until a meat thermometer inserted into > thickest portion of beef roast registers 145° (medium), An absolute travesty, medium prime rib. jim |
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Snapper wrote:
> "PENMART01" > wrote in message > ... > >> Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this roast is a >> crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib is a showstopper, >> often the centerpiece of a holiday meal, but why not enjoy it all >> year? It's especially delicious when slow cooked in a smoker and >> subtly flavored by hickory. >> >> Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib >> actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat... > > IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case. Of course it's not the case. It's been cited dozens of times and Shitwit Sheldon learns nothing unless he can find it in one or another of the books he posts from or plagiarizes. > "Prime Rib" refers to the cut consisting of the portion between the > 6th and 13th ribs. Of course. But don't worry about it. Sheldon the blustery lackwit every now and again dumps this same crap in here. He believes what he believes and no matter the facts, science or authoritative sources, he keeps on believing what he already believes. But, hey, when his name was still Sheldon Katz before he decided to hide behind a fake name while claiming it was real, he was in the U.S. Navy as a *cook.* He actually cooked in the Navy where, back then, the food was the best in the world. And he was a *cook* in the Navy. An actual Navy cook and, lucky for him, it took no special previous training to do that. It was absolutely magical. One day he was just an ordinary asshole and the next day he was an asshole with the job of cook. Magic, I tell you. I bet they cooked a lot of prime rib in those glorious mess halls... ya think? I bet he knows the lyrics to the Village People song, "In the Navy." I can just see him now, fat old fart with a sailor suit strutting around with his IV holder, slinging a prime rib and prancing while he breathlessly sings with his "friends." "Where can you find pleasure Search the world for treasure Learn science, technology Where can you begin To make your dreams all come true On the land or on the sea..." Yes, he was a "cook" in the Navy. <everybody sing> In the Navy... No, seriously... Pastorio |
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"Mr. Wizard" > wrote in message . com>...
> "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message > ... > > On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote: > > > > >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually > refers to > > >the USDA grade of the meat.... > > > > Wrong. > > > You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib > lies between the sixth and twelfth rib. Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut. Anything less than prime is called a "standing rib roast". Ask any butcher. They can't call "USDA choice" beef "prime", even though it's a fine grade. |
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![]() "janos petrik" > wrote in message om... > "Mr. Wizard" > wrote in message . com>... > > "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message > > ... > > > On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote: > > > > > > >Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually > > refers to > > > >the USDA grade of the meat.... > > > > > > Wrong. > > > > > You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib > > lies between the sixth and twelfth rib. > > > Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut. > > Anything less than prime is called a "standing rib roast". > > Ask any butcher. They can't call "USDA choice" beef "prime", even > though it's a fine grade. > Wrong. The term "Prime Rib" was coined by the great Charles Ranhoffer in 1869 and is expounded upon in his Treatise "The Epicurean". That is decades before there was a grading system. Anything other than the mid-section, sixth to twelfth rib, is a standing rib roast no matter what grade it is. Anything in front of the sixth rib is the chuck and anything beyond the twelfth is the loin. |
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![]() "Bob (this one)" > wrote in message ... > Snapper wrote: > > > "PENMART01" > wrote in message > > ... > > > >> Prime Rib From Southern Living Tender and juicy, this roast is a > >> crowd-pleaser any time of the year. Prime rib is a showstopper, > >> often the centerpiece of a holiday meal, but why not enjoy it all > >> year? It's especially delicious when slow cooked in a smoker and > >> subtly flavored by hickory. > >> > >> Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib > >> actually refers to the USDA grade of the meat... > > > > IIRC from culinary school, this is not the case. > > Of course it's not the case. It's been cited dozens of times and > Shitwit Sheldon learns nothing unless he can find it in one or > another of the books he posts from or plagiarizes. > > > "Prime Rib" refers to the cut consisting of the portion between the > > 6th and 13th ribs. > > Of course. > > But don't worry about it. Sheldon the blustery lackwit every now and > again dumps this same crap in here. He believes what he believes and > no matter the facts, science or authoritative sources, he keeps on > believing what he already believes. > > But, hey, when his name was still Sheldon Katz before he decided to > hide behind a fake name while claiming it was real, he was in the U.S. > Navy as a *cook.* He actually cooked in the Navy where, back then, the > food was the best in the world. And he was a *cook* in the Navy. An > actual Navy cook and, lucky for him, it took no special previous > training to do that. It was absolutely magical. One day he was just an > ordinary asshole and the next day he was an asshole with the job of > cook. Magic, I tell you. I bet they cooked a lot of prime rib in those > glorious mess halls... ya think? > > I bet he knows the lyrics to the Village People song, "In the Navy." I > can just see him now, fat old fart with a sailor suit strutting around > with his IV holder, slinging a prime rib and prancing while he > breathlessly sings with his "friends." > > "Where can you find pleasure > Search the world for treasure > Learn science, technology > Where can you begin > To make your dreams all come true > On the land or on the sea..." > > Yes, he was a "cook" in the Navy. <everybody sing> In the Navy... I loved the way the Muppet Show did that song. With the pigs all dressed up as Vikings. It was hilarious. Paul |
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>(janos petrik) writes:
> >"Mr. Wizard" mimicked: >>sqwertz@clueless spurts: >>>(PENMART01) wrote: >>> >>>>Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually refers to >>>>the USDA grade of the meat.... >>> >>> >>>Wrong. >>> >>You are 100% right SW. The prime SECTION of rib lies between the sixth and >>twelfth rib. > > >Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut. > >Anything less than prime is called a "standing rib roast". > >Ask any butcher. They can't call "USDA choice" beef "prime", even >though it's a fine grade. You're wasting your efforts... those two doofusses wouldn't know from prime if it bit them on their KY jellied anuses, onliest meat they ever get close to is each others tube steak... otherwise they're stupidmarket mystery meat mavens. ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` |
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Steve Wertz > wrote in
: > On 4 Jul 2004 12:55:13 -0700, (janos > petrik) wrote: > >>Prime refers to the USDA grade, not the individual cut. > > Not in the case of Prime rib. The USDA has been consulted on this > and it's perfectly acceptable to call a select grade rib roast a > prime rib roast. > > You're wrong. Accept it. > > -sw > Knowing this, I always ask the butcher what grade the meat is. I just like to be sure since it can sometimes influence cooking method and time. The shops where I usually buy using the labeling "rib roast" in the case. -- Wayne in Phoenix If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. |
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![]() "Steve Wertz" > wrote in message ... > On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 17:19:53 -0500, Alan wrote: > > >On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 11:34:57 -0500, Steve Wertz > > wrote: > > > >>On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 10:41:09 -0500, Alan wrote: > >> > >>>On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:43:18 -0500, Steve Wertz > > wrote: > >>> > >>>>On 03 Jul 2004 23:17:42 GMT, (PENMART01) wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>Begin by finding the right roast. The "Prime" in prime rib actually refers to > >>>>>the USDA grade of the meat.... > >>>> > >>>>Wrong. > >>>> > >>>Here we go again............................................. ...... > >> > >>The thread ended two days ago.... until you posted. > >> > >>-sw > >Oops! > > It was short and sweet this time. Sheldon will still keep falsely > insisting that it has to be USDA Prime, despite all the evidence > to the contrary. > His ignorance is exceeded by his lack of knowledge. |
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