~patches~ wrote:
> sarah bennett wrote:
>
>> ~patches~ wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> ~patches~ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Roast (anything) I'll go for; but I have to stop at the red wine.
>>>>>> I love
>>>>>> it, but allergic to something it it. How about gin and tonics?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny you mention the red wine allergy. I'm highly allergic to it
>>>>> too.
>>>>> I think it is the sulfides (sulfites) in it but could be wrong. I
>>>>> can
>>>>> get away with a little white wine or zinfidel but not the red.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It definitely affects some people, and not in a good way. It can put
>>>> some
>>>> people in an ugly mood. My wife is almost always easy going and good
>>>> natured.
>>>> Giver her a glass or two of red wine and she becomes more talkative.
>>>> Give her
>>>> a third glass of red wine and you don't want to be around her.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Mine reaction is much worse - one sip and my cheeks get the brightest
>>> red you've ever seen, a second sip and the breathing problems start.
>>> It isn't pretty! I haven't had a problem with white or zinfedel
>>
>>
>>
>> zinfandel is a red wine.
>
>
> Really? I should get them to relabel the *white* zinfedel then,
> shouldn't I?
>

white zinfandel is not the same as zinfandel.

>>
>>> but I'm so cautious that the prospects of drinking a full glass are
>>> slim to none. I have enough for the toast and one or two sips, that's
>>> it. Funny, sherry doesn't seem to affect me either but I only have
>>> an ounce of that would last most the evening.
>>
>>
>>
>>


--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article > ,
> sarah bennett > wrote:
>
>
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>>In article <pH_jf.18064$pF.17534@fed1read04>,
>>> LittleGreyPoodle > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article >,
>>>>>kalanamak > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>sarah bennett wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>how is retaining one's naturally occuring hair "disgususting"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There is no accounting for taste. IME, and while distant, was very broad
>>>>>>indeed, the kind of men who thought body hair awful were the kind of men
>>>>>>I wasn't interested in. I recall one afternoon in a park with a couple
>>>>>>of co-students (we were all in our early 30s). There were a "couple".
>>>>>>She said "no woman is furrier than me". I showed my leg, which WAS
>>>>>>furrier than hers (she beat me in the arms). The man smiled, petted my
>>>>>>leg and slyly said "what are YOU doing tonight" and we all laughed. I
>>>>>>have had men who just loved my downy pits, and said they were so glad to
>>>>>>finally meet a woman who didn't spend all that time preening to impress
>>>>>>others.
>>>>>>I'm married to one now, and my little boy loves to pet my shins.
>>>>>>blacksalt
>>>>>>strawberry blonde, who admits she might feel differently if she was one
>>>>>>of those people with shock white skin and jet black hair
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ObFood: power back on...time to eat while it still in on (power tends to
>>>>>>go off and on as trees drop under the wt. of the snow)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have shock white skin, and dark auburn hair. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>I will shave my legs before wearing a dress! <lol>
>>>>>
>>>>>I shave the pits regularly for personal grooming.
>>>>>People at work don't appreciate smelly armpits.
>>>>
>>>>Try *washing*. It works better and is faster than shaving. And more
>>>>natural too. The smell comes from bacteria, not hair.
>>>
>>>
>>>I do wash! <duh>
>>>
>>>But the glandular secretions overcome that in just a few hours,
>>>especially if it's really busy and I'm moving a lot! I do use underarm
>>>deoderant (not anti-perspirant as I think that stuff is dangerous) but
>>>by the end of the shift, if I have any armpit hair growing, the smell is
>>>far more noticable than if the skin is clean shaven!
>>>
>>>The hair gets coated and the smell does NOT come from bacteria! Follow
>>>that link I posted, or google for "Apocrine glands". There are more of
>>>them in the armpits.
>>>
>>>I s'pose surgery is an option for those too lazy to shave the pits. ;-)
>>>I keep a triple bladed disposable razor IN the shower!
>>>
>>>Sorry, I DO believe in being somewhat natural, but I just have to draw
>>>the line at armpit hair. ;-P
>>
>>yes, the smell comes from the bacteria that reproduce in the moist
>>conditions in the armpit. Now, if you are using a deodorant that cannot
>>reach the pores of the glands, then it wont work. Chick deodorant does
>>not work if you have hair under your arms, in my experience.
>
>
> I've actually switched to a "natural" one made with tea tree oil.
> The super strong "guy" stuff made by old spice worked, but I developed a
> severe allergy to it. Beet red skin with severe itching. It was horrible.
>
> The "Tom's" brand is working ok but it's not quite good for 10 hours.
> I also use a bit of neosporin to supress bacterial growth.

And have you heard of "anti-biotic resistant bacteria"? The over-use of
anti-biotics is causing all sorts of "super" germs to evolve. This is
going to cause a major issue soon in American hospitals, just as it has
in Japanese hospitals recently.

The human body is designed to handle a few germs. Let it!

Wine gets its color from the skin of the grape. It also gets some
flavor components there.

To make red wine, you start with red grapes (also called purple), leave
the grape juice in contact with skin for a good long time and proceed
with the wine making.

To make white wine, you start with white grapes (also called green) OR
red grapes, remove the skins right away and proceed.

A rose is a red wine that's been left in contact with the red grapes for
only a short time, long enough to get some color but not a lot. For
some reason, roses haven't been selling well, thus ...

Blush. A blush wine is really a rose but with a name that's more
marketable. "White zinfandel" is a rose, made with those red zinfandel
grapes, that sells extremely well. Young people and those new to
drinking wine like it. Those with more experience with wine turn up
their nose to it. There's a restaurant next to the wine and cheese shop
where I work. They don't like white zin at all and won't have it on
their wine list. So what's their best selling wine? White Zinfandel.
People come in and ask for it, and the waitress always says that she can
get it for them. We didn't used to carry it where I work, but now we
do. It is a matter of pleasing the customer.


More tidbits on the subject: Pinot noir is a red grape that has very
thin skin. That makes it more difficult to grow and harvest. For that
reason, pinot noir wines tend to be a few dollars more expensive than
their cabernet cousins. Pinot noir wines will be closer to a red-purple
color than a purple-purple color because there's less color from the
skin. The next time you have a chance to compare, hold a glass of each
up to the light. Pinot noir wines are also a good place to start for
people who have always liked white wines but are thinking they'd like to
start learning about reds. They have less of the flavor components
normally associated with red wines.


Could we all change the subject line accurately to reflect the body of
the post? I was interested in the shaving question when it had to do
with history, fashion and science. I'm considerably less interested in
the personal habits of my listmates.


--Lia

Ben wrote:

>
> No problem with red wine but if I have white wine with fish I get an
> allergic type reaction.

That's unfortunate. My Friday night dinner for a long time was grilled salmon
(steaks or fillets) with a salad of Bibb lettuce, sliced onion and avocado,
fresh Italian bread and a bottle of Gerwurtztraminer. I was always afraid that
I would get sick of it, but I never did.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> Eccrine gland secretions don't stink.
> Apocrine gland secretions do.
> Armpits have more of the latter.
>
> Try bothering to educate _yourself_ dear!

Even on unshaved pits, soap and water twice a day will take care of odor.
Antiperspirants work great too.

And a sweaty guy (one who's just finished a workout, not one who hasn't
washed in a few days) is not a bad thing.

Gabby

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:40:52 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Wine gets its color from the skin of the grape. It also gets some
>flavor components there.
>
>To make red wine, you start with red grapes (also called purple), leave
>the grape juice in contact with skin for a good long time and proceed
>with the wine making.
>
>To make white wine, you start with white grapes (also called green) OR
>red grapes, remove the skins right away and proceed.
>
>A rose is a red wine that's been left in contact with the red grapes for
>only a short time, long enough to get some color but not a lot. For
>some reason, roses haven't been selling well, thus ...
>
>Blush. A blush wine is really a rose but with a name that's more
>marketable. "White zinfandel" is a rose, made with those red zinfandel
>grapes, that sells extremely well. Young people and those new to
>drinking wine like it. Those with more experience with wine turn up
>their nose to it. There's a restaurant next to the wine and cheese shop
>where I work. They don't like white zin at all and won't have it on
>their wine list. So what's their best selling wine? White Zinfandel.
>People come in and ask for it, and the waitress always says that she can
>get it for them. We didn't used to carry it where I work, but now we
>do. It is a matter of pleasing the customer.
>
>
>More tidbits on the subject: Pinot noir is a red grape that has very
>thin skin. That makes it more difficult to grow and harvest. For that
>reason, pinot noir wines tend to be a few dollars more expensive than
>their cabernet cousins. Pinot noir wines will be closer to a red-purple
>color than a purple-purple color because there's less color from the
>skin. The next time you have a chance to compare, hold a glass of each
>up to the light. Pinot noir wines are also a good place to start for
>people who have always liked white wines but are thinking they'd like to
>start learning about reds. They have less of the flavor components
>normally associated with red wines.
>
>
>Could we all change the subject line accurately to reflect the body of
>the post? I was interested in the shaving question when it had to do
>with history, fashion and science. I'm considerably less interested in
>the personal habits of my listmates.
>
>
>--Lia


So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
the wine to turn it white?

Cheryl

In article > ,
sarah bennett > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article > ,
> > sarah bennett > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>zinfandel is a red wine.
> >
> >
> > Not here.
> >
> > White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
> >
>
> yeah, yeah, I was being jerky and semantic

That's ok. ;-)
It still contains sulfites.
Most wines do.

>
> > You CAN get red zin' but it's rare.
>
> Really? I never knew I was such an oenophile.
>
> --
>
> saerah

Look for it.
It's dry, but tasty.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article > ,
sarah bennett > wrote:

> > I shave my armpits every few days. I'm lucky, no reaction. I use a
> > triple blade disposable razor and saap to lubricate.
>
> I trim mine up with scissors and I occasionally shave, and then get
> ****ed off because it rashes up. I have tried every type of disposable
> razor except the kind with removable heads. My husband doesnt care, I
> don't care. that kind of makes shaving a waste of time.
>
> --
>
> saerah

If it works for you, it works for you... :-)

This seems to be very much a personal opinion type of thing eh?

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article > ,
> sarah bennett > wrote:
>
>
>>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>>>In article > ,
>>> sarah bennett > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>zinfandel is a red wine.
>>>
>>>
>>>Not here.
>>>
>>>White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
>>>
>>
>>yeah, yeah, I was being jerky and semantic
>
>
> That's ok. ;-)
> It still contains sulfites.
> Most wines do.
>
>
>>>You CAN get red zin' but it's rare.
>>
>>Really? I never knew I was such an oenophile.
>>
>>--
>>
>>saerah
>
>
> Look for it.
> It's dry, but tasty.

I know. the "really" was to the "rare" comment.

--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

The Bubbo wrote:

> Dan Goodman wrote:
> > pgluth1 wrote:
> >
> >> > You can still get coke made with sugar around passover. corn
> syrup >> > is not eaten by jews of eastern european descent on
> passover, and >> > coca-cola wants their business that week If it
> says ou-p on it, >> > look at the ingredients
> > >
> >> If memory serves, many overseas bottlers of Coke still use sugar.
> Up >> until a few years ago (may still be true) some Mexican grocery
> stores >> imported Coke for that "down home flavor."
> >
> > Available in Minneapolis at several stalls in Mercado Central.
> >
> Oh man, I love the mercado central! David speaks spanish and when we
> go he orders everything in spanish and i think the people working
> there are amused by this white guy in minnesota actually talking to
> him. He sent me off to get a licuado once, said I'd do fine on my
> own. Sigh, I read spanish very very slowly, but I can't speak it. I
> ended up getting something that was super citrusy and warm. I make
> him come with me from now on.

I'm effectively semi-literate in written Spanish.

Note that there's a Salvadorean food stall, and may be other
non-Mexican-Hispanic places.

> tangent tangent...
> I have a friend who lives in Calexico, born in Mexicali, she sends me
> things like Tamarindo Tang and Herdez Salsa Verda (the only salsa
> verde worth eating and while the mercado central usually carries it,
> i've been disappointed by their lack of it at times). She also sends
> me this horrid candy made with tamarind pulp, citric acid, salt and
> chili. I keep trying to tell her that the big selling points for
> candy should NOT be extra salt and chili!! But she doesnt believe me.

I wonder how similar this is to the tamarind candy I bought in an Asian
supermarket on Nicollet Avenue? That very definitely had chili in it.
Next time I decide to try some exotic candy there, I'll read the list
of ingredients first!

There are people who would try such a candy, and maybe even some who
would like it. If you turn out to know any of the latter, you can pass
it on to someone who wants it.

--
Dan Goodman
Journal http://www.livejournal.com/users/dsgood/
Clutterers Anonymous unofficial community
http://www.livejournal.com/community/clutterers_anon/
Decluttering http://decluttering.blogspot.com
Predictions and Politics http://dsgood.blogspot.com
All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies.
John Arbuthnot (1667-1735), Scottish writer, physician.

Shaun wrote:

>> Barn Burner
>>
>> 1 1/2 oz. Southern Comfort
>> 1 cup Hot Cider
>> cinnamon stick
>> 2-inch length of lemon peel
>>
>> Put cinnamon stick in an Irish Coffee glass. Add hot cider and let steep
>> for a few seconds. Give the lemon peel a twist to release the volatile
>> oils, and drop it into the cider as well. Add Southern Comfort and stir.
<snip>
>
> Shame, sounds great! Do you mean what you call 'hard' cider, or the no
> alcohol stuff?

This was the no-alcohol stuff. It's alcoholic enough with the Southern
Comfort!

Bob

sarah bennett wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>> sarah bennett > wrote:
>>
>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>>
>>>> sarah bennett > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> zinfandel is a red wine.
>>>>
>>>> Not here.
>>>>
>>>> White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
>>>
>>> yeah, yeah, I was being jerky and semantic
>>
>> That's ok. ;-) It still contains sulfites. Most wines do.
>>
>>>> You CAN get red zin' but it's rare.
>>>
>>> Really? I never knew I was such an oenophile.
>>
>> Look for it. It's dry, but tasty.
>
> I know. the "really" was to the "rare" comment.

Red Zinfandels are rare? Where? Not in the U.S.

<http://wine.about.com/od/vineyardvocab/g/Zinfandel.htm>
<http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/food_drink/uncorked/documents/02138306.htm>
<http://www.zinfandel.org/>

Pastorio

On 2005-12-03, > wrote:

> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
> the wine to turn it white?

You become a braindead idiot like yourself! Get the fsck outta here.

nb

On 2005-12-03, Bob (this one) > wrote:

> Red Zinfandels are rare? Where? Not in the U.S.

True, but posters in this ng with enough brains to trim their posts
are as rare as ribbon tied dog shit.

nb

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > ~patches~ wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Roast (anything) I'll go for; but I have to stop at the red wine. I
love
> >>>it, but allergic to something it it. How about gin and tonics?
> >>
> >>Funny you mention the red wine allergy. I'm highly allergic to it too.
> >> I think it is the sulfides (sulfites) in it but could be wrong. I can
> >>get away with a little white wine or zinfidel but not the red.
> >
> >
> > It definitely affects some people, and not in a good way. It can put
some
> > people in an ugly mood. My wife is almost always easy going and good
natured.
> > Giver her a glass or two of red wine and she becomes more talkative.
Give her
> > a third glass of red wine and you don't want to be around her.
> >
> >
> >
> Mine reaction is much worse - one sip and my cheeks get the brightest
> red you've ever seen, a second sip and the breathing problems start. It
> isn't pretty! I haven't had a problem with white or zinfedel but I'm so
> cautious that the prospects of drinking a full glass are slim to none.
> I have enough for the toast and one or two sips, that's it. Funny,
> sherry doesn't seem to affect me either but I only have an ounce of that
> would last most the evening.

I get that same reaction when I drink Gin or Vodka. I can drink whisky,
wine or beer, but not the clear alcohol. Do you notice almost like a fruity
perfume coming up from your lungs *just* before the breathing problems
start? Once I get that taste, I know the bloated, blotchiness in my face
and the trouble breathing is right around the corner.

kili

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2005-12-02, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
>
> > White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
>
> White Zinfandel is a waste of good dirt!!
>
> While zinfandel is, in fact, a red grape, white zinfandel is a process
> of using those red grapes to make what amounts to the "chick flick" of
> wines. Real *RED* zinfandel is not only *NOT* rare, it is considered
> by many (ME!) to be the king of red wines. It's a heavy chewy high
> alcohol wine that will kick the crap outta the drinker and any food
> it's paired with. Wimps stay away!
>
> nb

I love Zinfadel as well. My absolute fav. is a cabernet, but I'll take a
Zinfandel over a Merlot anyday. My next choice would be Shiraz.

kili

On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 19:52:27 -0600, Becca > connected
the dots and wrote:

~maxine in ri wrote:
~
~> So women covered their hair (like it says in the bible) and shaved
~> the rest of the hair from their bodies, so the demons wouldn't have
~> anything to hold onto.
~
~Interesting.
~
~If you go to a nude beach, you will notice, the women have no hair at
~all. I guess they are still protecting themselves from demons.
~
~Becca

ROTFL! Good Christian women, no doubt.

maxine in ri, where it's too cold to go sunning at Moonstone

In article >,
"Bob (this one)" > wrote:

> sarah bennett wrote:
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >
> >> sarah bennett > wrote:
> >>
> >>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> sarah bennett > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> zinfandel is a red wine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not here.
> >>>>
> >>>> White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
> >>>
> >>> yeah, yeah, I was being jerky and semantic
> >>
> >> That's ok. ;-) It still contains sulfites. Most wines do.
> >>
> >>>> You CAN get red zin' but it's rare.
> >>>
> >>> Really? I never knew I was such an oenophile.
> >>
> >> Look for it. It's dry, but tasty.
> >
> > I know. the "really" was to the "rare" comment.
>
> Red Zinfandels are rare? Where? Not in the U.S.
>
> <http://wine.about.com/od/vineyardvocab/g/Zinfandel.htm>
> <http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/...ts/02138306.ht
> m>
> <http://www.zinfandel.org/>
>
> Pastorio

Let's put it this way...

When I go to buy zin', I see about 20 brands of white zin' on the shelf.

When I am looking for the red, there are only maybe 2 at most.
I DO have trouble finding it, at least locally.
Might be because it's a college town? ;-)

Okay?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"kilikini" > wrote:

> "notbob" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 2005-12-02, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
> >
> > > White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
> >
> > White Zinfandel is a waste of good dirt!!
> >
> > While zinfandel is, in fact, a red grape, white zinfandel is a process
> > of using those red grapes to make what amounts to the "chick flick" of
> > wines. Real *RED* zinfandel is not only *NOT* rare, it is considered
> > by many (ME!) to be the king of red wines. It's a heavy chewy high
> > alcohol wine that will kick the crap outta the drinker and any food
> > it's paired with. Wimps stay away!
> >
> > nb
>
> I love Zinfadel as well. My absolute fav. is a cabernet, but I'll take a
> Zinfandel over a Merlot anyday. My next choice would be Shiraz.
>
> kili
>
>

I just tried Shiraz for the first time a couple of weeks ago. :-)
It's good!

Have you tried any of the Australian wines yet?
Most are very reasonably priced and I have yet to find a bad one!

Australian wines are getting to be more and more common around here.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:40:52 -0500, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:
>
>A rose is a red wine that's been left in contact with the red grapes for
>only a short time, long enough to get some color but not a lot. For
>some reason, roses haven't been selling well, thus ...
>
>Blush. A blush wine is really a rose but with a name that's more
>marketable. "White zinfandel" is a rose, made with those red zinfandel
>grapes, that sells extremely well. Young people and those new to
>drinking wine like it. Those with more experience with wine turn up
>their nose to it. There's a restaurant next to the wine and cheese shop
>where I work. They don't like white zin at all and won't have it on
>their wine list. So what's their best selling wine? White Zinfandel.
>People come in and ask for it, and the waitress always says that she can
>get it for them. We didn't used to carry it where I work, but now we
>do. It is a matter of pleasing the customer.

It's kool-aid. But I had a really interesting Provencal rose some
months ago. A guest brought it over because I was cooking a gigot
d'agneau with garlic and Provencal flavors. It was really a grownup
taste, not sweet at all. Very light. And an appealing "flinty" feel
on the tongue. Too bad so much rose is nasty. There appear to be
some out there that are actually quite good.
>
>Could we all change the subject line accurately to reflect the body of
>the post? I was interested in the shaving question when it had to do
>with history, fashion and science. I'm considerably less interested in
>the personal habits of my listmates.
>
My decision to avoid the thread appears to have been right.


modom

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:12:41 -0500, Roberta wrote:


>> Well some one has to ask.
>> I can figure out what a bald eagle is, and I know what a mohawk is,
>> but what is a brazilian?
>
>
>My understanding of it .... You know what a bikini wax is - think on a
>MUCH larger scale... All of it waxed - belly-button to lower back :P
>
>Roberta (in VA)

NOW that has got to hurt.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "kilikini" > wrote:
>
> > "notbob" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On 2005-12-02, OmManiPadmeOmelet > wrote:
> > >
> > > > White Zinfandel is a Rose'.
> > >
> > > White Zinfandel is a waste of good dirt!!
> > >
> > > While zinfandel is, in fact, a red grape, white zinfandel is a process
> > > of using those red grapes to make what amounts to the "chick flick" of
> > > wines. Real *RED* zinfandel is not only *NOT* rare, it is considered
> > > by many (ME!) to be the king of red wines. It's a heavy chewy high
> > > alcohol wine that will kick the crap outta the drinker and any food
> > > it's paired with. Wimps stay away!
> > >
> > > nb
> >
> > I love Zinfadel as well. My absolute fav. is a cabernet, but I'll take
a
> > Zinfandel over a Merlot anyday. My next choice would be Shiraz.
> >
> > kili
> >
> >
>
> I just tried Shiraz for the first time a couple of weeks ago. :-)
> It's good!
>
> Have you tried any of the Australian wines yet?
> Most are very reasonably priced and I have yet to find a bad one!
>
> Australian wines are getting to be more and more common around here.
> --
> Om.
>

Oh, gosh, I've had many Australian wines! The first Shiraz I ever tried (15
years ago?) was from Australia in fact. Our store has an entire section
devoted to Australian wines. They're very popular.

kili

wrote:

> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
> the wine to turn it white?


That horrible practice is a deadly zin, right up there with pride, envy,
wrath, lust, avarice, sloth, and, my favorite, gluttony.


--Lia

"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
> maxine in ri, where it's too cold to go sunning at Moonstone

I haven't been there for years. Hasn't it been closed though? The
puritans said the sunbathers were bothering the nesting birds of something.

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>> the wine to turn it white?
>
>
>
> That horrible practice is a deadly zin, right up there with pride, envy,
> wrath, lust, avarice, sloth, and, my favorite, gluttony.

<LOL> Brilliant...

Pastorio

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:45:23 -0600, wrote:

>So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>the wine to turn it white?
>
You drop dead.

On Fri 02 Dec 2005 07:45:23p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
> the wine to turn it white?

It turns white.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:45:23 -0600, wrote:


>So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>the wine to turn it white?
>


Please try it and get back to us from the beyond.


jim

Bob (this one) wrote:
> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>>> the wine to turn it white?
>>
>> That horrible practice is a deadly zin, right up there with pride,
>> envy, wrath, lust, avarice, sloth, and, my favorite, gluttony.
>
>
> <LOL> Brilliant...
>
> Pastorio


Thanks for the compliment. It took me a while to work out the wording
on that one.


Have you seen the wine, a red zinfandel, called "7 Deadly Zins"? It is
quite nice for the price and a good seller where I work.


Other moderately priced wines with great labels/names include "Il
*******o," "Mad Housewife," "Cool Fish," "Goats Do Roam," "Woop Woop,"
and one that I especially like for the label: "Pets." It has a red,
white and black label with a photograph of a dog on it. Like all great
advertising, it doesn't make sense, but it goes straight to the heart of
appealing to something people like and have good associations with.


--Lia

On Sun 04 Dec 2005 01:57:36a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Julia
Altshuler?

> Bob (this one) wrote:
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>>>> the wine to turn it white?
>>>
>>> That horrible practice is a deadly zin, right up there with pride,
>>> envy, wrath, lust, avarice, sloth, and, my favorite, gluttony.
>>
>>
>> <LOL> Brilliant...
>>
>> Pastorio
>
>
> Thanks for the compliment. It took me a while to work out the wording
> on that one.
>
>
> Have you seen the wine, a red zinfandel, called "7 Deadly Zins"? It is
> quite nice for the price and a good seller where I work.
>
>
> Other moderately priced wines with great labels/names include "Il
> *******o," "Mad Housewife," "Cool Fish," "Goats Do Roam," "Woop Woop,"
> and one that I especially like for the label: "Pets." It has a red,
> white and black label with a photograph of a dog on it. Like all great
> advertising, it doesn't make sense, but it goes straight to the heart of
> appealing to something people like and have good associations with.

Heh, those names remind me of Boone's Farm.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:45:48 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
connected the dots and wrote:

~"maxine in ri" > wrote in message
~> maxine in ri, where it's too cold to go sunning at Moonstone
~
~I haven't been there for years. Hasn't it been closed though? The
~puritans said the sunbathers were bothering the nesting birds of
something.
~

The piping plovers had taken it over for their nesting grounds. Danged
pushy birds!

Fortunately, there are other secluded beaches....

maxine in ri

In article <_W_jf.18068$pF.5093@fed1read04>,
DogLover > wrote:

> Don't they teach you Americans anything in school?????

No. We learn how to pick our noses most effectively and how to dress
like Britney Spears. When I was a kid, Britney Spears wasn't even
around, so we had less homework than the kids today.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article >,
"Gabby" > wrote:

> Even on unshaved pits, soap and water twice a day will take care of odor.
> Antiperspirants work great too.
>
> And a sweaty guy (one who's just finished a workout, not one who hasn't
> washed in a few days) is not a bad thing.

When I used to work in a studio, and before when I was competing, we
talked about clean sweat and dirty sweat. If you bathed before you
exerted yourself, the sweat wouldn't stink, but if you went out dancing
without at least a quick rinse off, when you started to sweat you would
stink to high heaven. This meant you had to take a quick bath or shower
a little before you left for practice or going out to dance or a
performance or whatever, in addition to your daily hygiene routine.

Unfortunately, being in hippy dippy Eugene, there were a lot of
people who not only skipped the before dance shower, but also the daily
hygiene.

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Ranee

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In article >,
Rhonda Anderson > wrote:

>
> I thought this sounded great too (I appreciate other people's viewpoints
> but I personally do not like hairy legs and armpits on myself - the hair is
> not fine and blond, unfortunately <g>) but it's very expensive.

My husband is a German/English/French Mutt, I am an Arab. With dark
hair. Which is beautiful in my long lashes and long hair, but not so
much everywhere else. Hair removal is a family activity in this house.
I pity our children, and I was actually somewhat concerned that our
daughter would be really hairy, with two parents who have serious hair
issues. It's bad enough that they will inherit a large nose from both
of us, as we both have noses with "character." She is not, thankfully,
and yes we can tell already, because one of our sons looks like he'll
start shaving in about a year or so. He's seven. Rich and I would both
dearly love to get electrolysis or laser treatment done on just about
everything below our necks, and some bits above our necks, too. It's
just too expensive at this point. So, razors, wax, tweezers and such
are our best friends now.

Regards,
Ranee

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In article >,
notbob > wrote:

> Not to mention swimmers, body builders, bald heads, etc. I've noticed
> random polls on the subject over the years have revealed a trend of
> both young and older women alike echewing the old macho hairy-chested
> male in favor of the younger hairless six-pak endowed youth.

I think it's because women don't like to think about that guy they're
with being a man. I understand an aversion to ape like hairyness, but
there is something quite appealing about a man with some hair on his
chest.

Regards,
Ranee

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"Ranee Mueller" > wrote in message
...

> we can tell already, because one of our sons looks like he'll
> start shaving in about a year or so. He's seven. Rich and I would both
> dearly love to get electrolysis or laser treatment done on just about
> everything below our necks, and some bits above our necks, too. It's
> just too expensive at this point. So, razors, wax, tweezers and such
> are our best friends now.

I know what you're saying. When he was 10, DH was sent home from school and
told not to come back until he'd shaved. Back then, you didn't argue. Fast
forward to our older son at the same age. His school mates (not the
authorities) are all telling him to shave. He says, "Are they nuts? I'm
growing a beard. When they're 15 and still trying to grow fuzz, they'll be
jealous of me." At 19 when he went off to university other freshmen thought
he was in his late 20s -- again because of the facial hair. Unlike his
younger brother, he's never felt that his hairiness was a problem.

Gabby

Ranee wrote:

> Rich and I would both dearly love to get electrolysis or laser treatment
> done on just about everything below our necks, and some bits above our
> necks, too. It's just too expensive at this point. So, razors, wax,
> tweezers and such are our best friends now.

I can't speak for laser treatment, but I can state that after electrolysis,
new hair follicles form and you're hairy again in a couple months.

Bob

Julia Altshuler wrote:
> Bob (this one) wrote:
>> Julia Altshuler wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So what happens if you use red or purple grapes and add some bleach to
>>>> the wine to turn it white?
>>>
>>> That horrible practice is a deadly zin, right up there with pride,
>>> envy, wrath, lust, avarice, sloth, and, my favorite, gluttony.
>>
>>
>> <LOL> Brilliant...
>>
>> Pastorio
>
>
> Thanks for the compliment. It took me a while to work out the wording
> on that one.
>
>
> Have you seen the wine, a red zinfandel, called "7 Deadly Zins"? It is
> quite nice for the price and a good seller where I work.
>
>
> Other moderately priced wines with great labels/names include "Il
> *******o," "Mad Housewife," "Cool Fish," "Goats Do Roam," "Woop Woop,"
> and one that I especially like for the label: "Pets." It has a red,
> white and black label with a photograph of a dog on it. Like all great
> advertising, it doesn't make sense, but it goes straight to the heart of
> appealing to something people like and have good associations with.

I like many of the Bonnie Doon reds, but one of my favorite reds is a
blend called (oddly enough) "Reds."

But with the exception of a few Oregon whites bottlers, I don't care for
New World whites at all. Overdone, all of them. You'll find me searching
the racks for Italian Pino Grigios instead, and French White Burgundies
are vastly superior to fat New World Chards any day. And yup, I like the
German whites, too. Dry Riesling is a marvelous thing!

<even Blue Nun ain't what it used to be>

pennyaline wrote:

Dry Riesling is a marvelous thing!
>


What do you recommend for a dry riesling. A customer asked me the other
day and had me stumped. That's largely because I often confuse tart and
fruity with sweet.


--Lia

In article >,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Ranee wrote:
>
> > Rich and I would both dearly love to get electrolysis or laser treatment
> > done on just about everything below our necks, and some bits above our
> > necks, too. It's just too expensive at this point. So, razors, wax,
> > tweezers and such are our best friends now.
>
> I can't speak for laser treatment, but I can state that after electrolysis,
> new hair follicles form and you're hairy again in a couple months.

Do you know how densely it regrows? If it is even significantly
better, it is worth it to us.

Regards,
Ranee

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