The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
should re - named the "Moron" category...

--
Best
Greg "I think it's time to get re - birthed..."


GQ wrote:
> If you love Christmas, thank a pagan

[SNIP idjit twaddle]

>The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should re - named the "Moron" category...

Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
Kev

kevnbro wrote:

> >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".


Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...

--
Best
Greg

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> kevnbro wrote:
>
>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
>>> that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>>
>> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
>> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
>> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
>
>
> Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...

Thank you for calling me stupid.

Jill

GQ wrote:
> Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> others.

Well crap, what good is a religion if you can't use it to belittle and
bother others? Isn't that how you know and display that you (only)
have the Truth?

Best line in the thread this time around so far is the one about Santa
on his knees in the manger. Beautiful example of blending traditions.
Relax and enjoy it. -aem

"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> kevnbro wrote:
>
> > >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should
re - named the "Moron" category...
> >
> > Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> > moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> > terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
>
>
> Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...

Without knowing those specific "pagans" you have encountered,
it's obviously impossible to refute the statement. However, as
given here, with the apparent implication that - based on whoever
or whatever it is you've "encountered" - all pagans are proven to
be "stupid," is itself pretty nonsensical.

Bob M.

In article .com>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
> should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
> --
> Best
> Greg "I think it's time to get re - birthed..."

<snork> I know what you mean...

I am pagan myself, but, like any "fad" religion, we get our share of
nutcases as well.

Oddly enough, I've met more quack x-tians than I have quack pagans tho'.

;-)

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
GQ > wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2005 09:03:28 -0800, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
> >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> >ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
> >should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
> Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> others.

Indeed... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Bob Myers" > wrote:

> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > kevnbro wrote:
> >
> > > >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should
> re - named the "Moron" category...
> > >
> > > Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> > > moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> > > terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
> >
> >
> > Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
>
> Without knowing those specific "pagans" you have encountered,
> it's obviously impossible to refute the statement. However, as
> given here, with the apparent implication that - based on whoever
> or whatever it is you've "encountered" - all pagans are proven to
> be "stupid," is itself pretty nonsensical.
>
> Bob M.
>
>

I used to attend a pagan retreat/festival twice per year. The membership
grew from 50 to 1,200 over a period of about 15 years.

When the membership got to be that high, the idiot to true ratio got to
be about 50/50. In the beginning, it was not so bad.

<sigh>

I think the fact that those events are clothing optional might have had
something to do with it. As the word got around, more attendees were
just looking for an excuse to party naked. :-P

Oh well!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Bob Myers wrote:
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > kevnbro wrote:
> >
> > > >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should
> re - named the "Moron" category...
> > >
> > > Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> > > moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> > > terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
> >
> >
> > Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
>
> Without knowing those specific "pagans" you have encountered,
> it's obviously impossible to refute the statement. However, as
> given here, with the apparent implication that - based on whoever
> or whatever it is you've "encountered" - all pagans are proven to
> be "stupid," is itself pretty nonsensical.

Considering *all* those who subscribe to any god centered religion are
morons, then ergo, all pagans are morons too. All one can argue is
degree... like Pagans I don't think are as much blind faith adherents
than say RCs... like yoose gotta be purty high up there in moronicville
to be masturbating a friggin' string of beads everytime you fart... and
then to plant a damn urinal in your front yard containing a woman who
you swear birthed some no account ******* and then claim she's never
been ****ed... well Jeeze, yoose failed Bio 101. Yoose gonna tell me
dago morons don't live there. And what do you call a billion
uneducated towelheads who'll blow themselves up for some fercocktah
ghost no one has ever seen. I got yer allah, in a pig's ass.

Sheldon wrote:
>
> Considering *all* those who subscribe to any god centered religion are
> morons, then ergo, all pagans are morons too. All one can argue is
> degree...[snips]

Well, you gave colorful examples for two of the three Abrahamic
religions. Just couldn't think of one for the third, huh? You gotta
be careful to be as shitty to the Jews as you are to the Christians and
Moslems or somebody'll think you're biased. -aem

aem wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > Considering *all* those who subscribe to any god centered religion are
> > morons, then ergo, all pagans are morons too. All one can argue is
> > degree...[snips]
>
> Well, you gave colorful examples for two of the three Abrahamic
> religions. Just couldn't think of one for the third, huh? You gotta
> be careful to be as shitty to the Jews as you are to the Christians and
> Moslems or somebody'll think you're biased. -aem

You know better. I'm equal opportunity. Judaism, with all it's
fercocktah versions, has over time produced more screwed up morons than
all the others put together. Wait, here comes Charlton Heston with his
wooden spoon, which sea is he going to part today...

Bet yoose didn't know IRS is an anagram.

Sheldon

In article >,
says...
> On 17 Dec 2005 09:03:28 -0800, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
> >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> >ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
> >should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
> Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> others.

Precisely.

In article . com>,
says...
>
> Bob Myers wrote:
> > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > >
> > > kevnbro wrote:
> > >
> > > > >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> > ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that should
> > re - named the "Moron" category...
> > > >
> > > > Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> > > > moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> > > > terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
> > >
> > >
> > > Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
> >
> > Without knowing those specific "pagans" you have encountered,
> > it's obviously impossible to refute the statement. However, as
> > given here, with the apparent implication that - based on whoever
> > or whatever it is you've "encountered" - all pagans are proven to
> > be "stupid," is itself pretty nonsensical.
>
> Considering *all* those who subscribe to any god centered religion are
> morons, then ergo, all pagans are morons too. All one can argue is
> degree... like Pagans I don't think are as much blind faith adherents
> than say RCs... like yoose gotta be purty high up there in moronicville
> to be masturbating a friggin' string of beads everytime you fart... and
> then to plant a damn urinal in your front yard containing a woman who
> you swear birthed some no account ******* and then claim she's never
> been ****ed... well Jeeze, yoose failed Bio 101. Yoose gonna tell me
> dago morons don't live there. And what do you call a billion
> uneducated towelheads who'll blow themselves up for some fercocktah
> ghost no one has ever seen. I got yer allah, in a pig's ass.
>
>

Thank you Sheldon. That was enlightening.

I suppose I'm not really pagan but do know what it was about. The light,
plain and simple. And early Christians (Circa 500 A.D.) had to associate
him with the light.

Funny how light pretty much opened up the world of physics.

Tony P. wrote:

> I suppose I'm not really pagan but do know what it was about. The light,
> plain and simple. And early Christians (Circa 500 A.D.) had to associate
> him with the light.
>
> Funny how light pretty much opened up the world of physics.

I haven't been reading this thread at all, but when I saw how much bandwidth
was going into this thread, I thought I'd check it out. I see it lacks one
crucial element: "Doctor" Chung. Somebody want to cross-post to one of
Chung's groups? I'm sure his input would be priceless.

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Tony P. wrote:
>
>
>>I suppose I'm not really pagan but do know what it was about. The light,
>>plain and simple. And early Christians (Circa 500 A.D.) had to associate
>>him with the light.
>>
>>Funny how light pretty much opened up the world of physics.
>
>
> I haven't been reading this thread at all, but when I saw how much bandwidth
> was going into this thread, I thought I'd check it out. I see it lacks one
> crucial element: "Doctor" Chung. Somebody want to cross-post to one of
> Chung's groups? I'm sure his input would be priceless.
>
> Bob
>
>

oooh, you're evil

--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

On 17 Dec 2005 09:53:35 -0800, "Gregory Morrow"
> wrote:

>
>kevnbro wrote:
>
>> >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
> that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>>
>> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
>> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
>> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation here".
>
>Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...

Well. How about you supply hard data--enough for anyone who examines
said data to make their own conclusions about the persons you've known
(pagan and otherwise).

I know "New Age"-ish pagans and "New Age"-ish Christians as well as
"New Age"-ish atheists/agnostics/Ba'Hai/etc. Some are stupid, some
not. I know members of the above groups who aren't "New Age" at
all--again, some are stupid, some are not. I do know that making
sweeping statements such as yours above is highly likely to be one
sign of stupidity.

So supply data--put up or shut up, in other words.

--
-denny-
"Do your thoughts call ahead or do they just arrive at your mouth unannounced?"

"It's come as you are, baby."

-over the hedge

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:27:12 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote:

>In article .com>,
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
>> ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
>> should re - named the "Moron" category...
>>
>> --
>> Best
>> Greg "I think it's time to get re - birthed..."
>
><snork> I know what you mean...
>
>I am pagan myself, but, like any "fad" religion, we get our share of
>nutcases as well.
>
>Oddly enough, I've met more quack x-tians than I have quack pagans tho'.

There must be something to that probability stuff.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

GQ wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:58:02 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>> kevnbro wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
>>>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
>>>>> that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>>>>
>>>> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
>>>> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
>>>> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation
>>>> here".
>>>
>>>
>>> Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
>>
>> Thank you for calling me stupid.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Just ignore it Jill.
/begin rant

I mostly do, but I kinda like Greg so for him to make a sweeping statement
like that floored me. I don't go around announcing my religious beliefs. I
think people who do that are just asking to be shot down (not literally
shot, just, they are looking for challenges or challengers so they can start
an arguement about who is RIGHT). I try not to get involved in all that.
But I don't like to be called stupid, either. Greg has never met me so he
can't lump me in with "stupid".

I'll tell you what I think is stupid... the fairy tales in the Bible. The
virgin Mary. Anyone with half a brain knows a penis or at least sperm had
to be involved. Sorry they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago but
they definitely knew about SEX. If you believe all the biblical stuff,
Joseph had to be the most understanding man in history. But of course no
one can prove canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
existed, either.

I know I will offend a lot of people but IMO the Bible both old & new
testaments, is a nice bunch of stories that I don't believe for a minute.
/end rant

Jill

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:02:40 -0600, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

> >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
> >>>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
> >>>>> that should re - named the "Moron" category...

> I'll tell you what I think is stupid... the fairy tales in the Bible. The
> virgin Mary. Anyone with half a brain knows a penis or at least sperm had
> to be involved. Sorry they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago but
> they definitely knew about SEX. If you believe all the biblical stuff,
> Joseph had to be the most understanding man in history. But of course no
> one can prove canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
> existed, either.

And you objected to Greg's comments about Pagans????????????

Forgot your meds this morning? Drunk? What?

Carol

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:02:40 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>>Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
>>>>>>>I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
>>>>>>>that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
>
>>I'll tell you what I think is stupid... the fairy tales in the Bible. The
>>virgin Mary. Anyone with half a brain knows a penis or at least sperm had
>>to be involved. Sorry they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago but
>>they definitely knew about SEX. If you believe all the biblical stuff,
>>Joseph had to be the most understanding man in history. But of course no
>>one can prove canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
>>existed, either.
>
>
> And you objected to Greg's comments about Pagans????????????
>
> Forgot your meds this morning? Drunk? What?
>
> Carol

I think its dumb to argue over whose "fairy tales" are more ridiculous.

--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:14:21 GMT, sarah bennett
> wrote:

> I think its dumb to argue over whose "fairy tales" are more ridiculous.

My opinion is that no one's religious beliefs should be subjected to
public ridicule. What has happened to basic respect?

Carol

In article >,
says...
> GQ wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:58:02 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >>> kevnbro wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
> >>>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
> >>>>> that should re - named the "Moron" category...
> >>>>
> >>>> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> >>>> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> >>>> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation
> >>>> here".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
> >>
> >> Thank you for calling me stupid.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Just ignore it Jill.
> /begin rant
>
> I mostly do, but I kinda like Greg so for him to make a sweeping statement
> like that floored me. I don't go around announcing my religious beliefs. I
> think people who do that are just asking to be shot down (not literally
> shot, just, they are looking for challenges or challengers so they can start
> an arguement about who is RIGHT). I try not to get involved in all that.
> But I don't like to be called stupid, either. Greg has never met me so he
> can't lump me in with "stupid".
>
> I'll tell you what I think is stupid... the fairy tales in the Bible. The
> virgin Mary. Anyone with half a brain knows a penis or at least sperm had
> to be involved. Sorry they didn't have that technology 2000 years ago but
> they definitely knew about SEX. If you believe all the biblical stuff,
> Joseph had to be the most understanding man in history. But of course no
> one can prove canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
> existed, either.
>
> I know I will offend a lot of people but IMO the Bible both old & new
> testaments, is a nice bunch of stories that I don't believe for a minute.
> /end rant
>
> Jill

Just as Jesus was approximately 33 years old when he was crucified. You
can't tell me a Jewish man in that day and age wasn't married.

So there are descendents somewhere on the planet if that is true.
Imagine the surprise of Pope Nazi I when he's exposed as a pretender.


>
>

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:02:40 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
>>>> Gregory Morrow wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
>>>>>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and
>>>>>>> IMNSHO that should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
>> I'll tell you what I think is stupid... the fairy tales in the
>> Bible. The virgin Mary. Anyone with half a brain knows a penis or
>> at least sperm had to be involved. Sorry they didn't have that
>> technology 2000 years ago but they definitely knew about SEX. If
>> you believe all the biblical stuff, Joseph had to be the most
>> understanding man in history. But of course no one can prove
>> canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
>> existed, either.
>
> And you objected to Greg's comments about Pagans????????????
>
> Forgot your meds this morning? Drunk? What?
>
> Carol

Sorry, I'm not on meds. And, BTW, I don't drink most days despite what you
think. Sure, I enjoy beer and wine and talk about it but hey, I go days at
a time just drinking ice water. I really love ice water. And sunflower
seeds. I must be addicted. BTW, what I said is true. No one, religious or
secular, can actually prove Jesus Christ was a living breathing person. He
"rose from the dead" so of course there is no grave. The shroud of Turin
was proven with modern testing to be a hoax. Oh, and Elvis is dead.

What is known, however, are the pagan festivities which took place all
around the world well before the common lexicon of the Christian church.

Jill

Tony P. wrote:
>
> Just as Jesus was approximately 33 years old when he was crucified. You
> can't tell me a Jewish man in that day and age wasn't married. [snip]

Go get a novel called "Lamb" by Christopher Moore. It's about the
missing years between Jesus's childhood and his return. Really, really
funny. -aem

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> But of course no
> one can prove canonically, biblically or secularly that JESUS ever actually
> existed, either.

I think this is actually not true.

As for the rest, if you are actually a pagan, and not an agnostic or
atheist, then I don't see how virgin birth or resurrection or any other
story in the Bible is any more incredible than the earth being formed by
birth waters of a pagan god or spirits living in trees or any other
pagan system.

Regards,
Ranee

Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

In article >,
GQ > wrote:

> Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> others.

Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.

Regards,
Ranee

Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

Ranee wrote:

> Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
> have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.

You mean Jill, right? Go ahead, it's okay to say what you really mean: You
mean Jill. I can understand Jill's frustration at the way the conversation
has turned against her, when all she did was express her disbelief. She
also expressed her distaste for some sandwiches (that *I* thought sounded
mighty good). Suddenly she's in everybody's gunsights.


<highschool>
I hate her. She's SUCH a bitch! Let's CRUCIFY her!
</highschool>


<Sheldon>
She has a nice rack but she's probably a WOP.
</Sheldon>

Bob

Bob Terwilliger wrote:
> Ranee wrote:
>
>
>>Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
>>have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.
>
>
> You mean Jill, right? Go ahead, it's okay to say what you really mean: You
> mean Jill. I can understand Jill's frustration at the way the conversation
> has turned against her, when all she did was express her disbelief. She
> also expressed her distaste for some sandwiches (that *I* thought sounded
> mighty good). Suddenly she's in everybody's gunsights.
>
>
> <highschool>
> I hate her. She's SUCH a bitch! Let's CRUCIFY her!
> </highschool>
>
>
> <Sheldon>
> She has a nice rack but she's probably a WOP.
> </Sheldon>
>
> Bob
>
>

What, am I not combative and insulting?
People are bitchy on usenet sometimes. Fact.

--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

<snip/snipe>

<snip/snipe>

<snip/snipe ad nauseum>


Uh, peace on earth, goodwill towards men. (Ya think???)

Spitz
--
"Home, James, and don't spare the horses!"

Ranee Mueller wrote:
> In article >,
> GQ > wrote:
>
> > Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> > but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> > just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> > others.
>
> Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
> have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.
>
> Regards,
> Ranee

Oh go **** yourself, Ranee. You wave your religion around on your
forehead as if it's something to be proud of and then turn around and
act self-righteous and ****ly like the rest of them. Get off your
freaking high horse. Or bteer yet, go read the Bible and learn the
meaning of "humility" and "turning the other cheek". You're the most
"un-Christian" "self-proclaimed" Christian (ad nauseum) I have ever
encountered.

-L.

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article .com>,
> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
>
>
>>The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
>>ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
>>should re - named the "Moron" category...
>>
>>--
>>Best
>>Greg "I think it's time to get re - birthed..."
>
>
> <snork> I know what you mean...
>
> I am pagan myself, but, like any "fad" religion, we get our share of
> nutcases as well.
>
> Oddly enough, I've met more quack x-tians than I have quack pagans tho'.
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers!


I'm reading several days worth of this thread at once.

You do know that Landover Baptist Church is a parody made up of
stereotype characters, don't you? Betty Bowers is not a real person,
even if she is "better than you".

And you only get to count Dr (?) Andy Chung once.

Kind of lowers the numbers a bit, don't it?

Bob

-L. wrote:

> Ranee Mueller wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> GQ > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
>>>but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
>>>just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
>>>others.
>>
>> Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
>>have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ranee
>
>
> Oh go **** yourself, Ranee. You wave your religion around on your
> forehead as if it's something to be proud of and then turn around and
> act self-righteous and ****ly like the rest of them. Get off your
> freaking high horse. Or bteer yet, go read the Bible and learn the
> meaning of "humility" and "turning the other cheek". You're the most
> "un-Christian" "self-proclaimed" Christian (ad nauseum) I have ever
> encountered.
>
> -L.
>


So, can you tell me why you hold Ranee to such higher standards than you
obviously do yourself?

Best regards,
Bob

--
Luke 22:36 "And He said to them, But now, whoever has a money belt is
to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to
sell his coat and buy one." [NASB]

-L. wrote:
> Ranee Mueller wrote:
>
>>In article >,
>> GQ > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
>>>but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
>>>just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
>>>others.
>>
>> Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
>>have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ranee
>
>
> Oh go **** yourself, Ranee. You wave your religion around on your
> forehead as if it's something to be proud of and then turn around and
> act self-righteous and ****ly like the rest of them. Get off your
> freaking high horse. Or bteer yet, go read the Bible and learn the
> meaning of "humility" and "turning the other cheek". You're the most
> "un-Christian" "self-proclaimed" Christian (ad nauseum) I have ever
> encountered.
>
> -L.
>

Ok, there is definitely something in the water.

--

saerah

"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

Spitzmaus the Molester writes:
> <snip/snipe>
>
> <snip/snipe>
>
> <snip/snipe ad nauseum>
>
>
> Uh, peace on earth, goodwill towards men. (Ya think???)

Your rheteric is much too reminescent of CHRISTmasy... who do you think
you're fooling with that sneak in the back door claptrap. It's the
friggin' DISHONESTY of it all that's offensive, and you're simply
adding more disingenuous fuel to the yule log. You need a new script
that doesn't reek like a Hallmark card. Perhaps if yoose self
rightious religeous fanatics actually practiced Peace all year instead
of just talking about it (lip service) with your honkytonk carnival
ritualistic kewpie doll displays and commercializing it to death for
one day. Yoose religious nuts talk a good Peace but each and every one
of yoose is a violent scourge on this planet. Religion is the
antithesis of Peace. Only when all religion is erradicated can there
be Peace. Religion is no less violent a concept than the rape of small
children, in fact that's what catholicism is based in, with that
friggin' jesus ******* the worst child molester the planet has ever
seen. Wtf do yoose think that santa garbage is all about.. hey kid,
c'mere and sit on my lap, want a toy you gotta do good... right! And
then uncle Spitzmaus gets his little niece to sit in his lap and play
with his toy... and he does tickle-tickle back... hehehe, hohoho

You know you wanna do her. (Ya think???)

Sheldon Candycane

Spitzmaus replied:

> <snip/snipe>
>
> <snip/snipe>
>
> <snip/snipe ad nauseum>
>
>
> Uh, peace on earth, goodwill towards men. (Ya think???)


Both my response to Ranee and sarah's response to me were tongue-in-cheek.

Just how heavy-handed does humor have to BE around here?

Bob

jmcquown wrote:

> GQ wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:58:02 -0600, "jmcquown"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Gregory Morrow wrote:
> >>> kevnbro wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons
> >>>>> I've ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO
> >>>>> that should re - named the "Moron" category...
> >>>>
> >>>> Yet another fine example of "believe what I believe or you're a
> >>>> moron/evil/unpatriotic/going to hell/immoral/unethical/a liberal/a
> >>>> terrorst etc. etc. etc. etc. insert self-rightious accusation
> >>>> here".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Yet you cannot refute the veracity of what I said - go ahead, TRY...
> >>
> >> Thank you for calling me stupid.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Just ignore it Jill.
> /begin rant
>
> I mostly do, but I kinda like Greg so for him to make a sweeping statement
> like that floored me. I don't go around announcing my religious beliefs. I
> think people who do that are just asking to be shot down (not literally
> shot, just, they are looking for challenges or challengers so they can start
> an arguement about who is RIGHT). I try not to get involved in all that.
> But I don't like to be called stupid, either. Greg has never met me so he
> can't lump me in with "stupid".


I apologize Jill, you are just about as far from "stupid" as it is
possible to get :-)

--
Best
Greg

GQ wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2005 09:03:28 -0800, "Gregory Morrow"
> > wrote:
>
> >The Pagans I've encountered are just about the stupidest persons I've
> >ever known...they fall into the "New Age" category and IMNSHO that
> >should re - named the "Moron" category...
>
> Unfortuately that seems to be the case for a goodly portion of them
> but there are true Pagans that people would not even know because they
> just live their lives without belittling others and without bothering
> others.


All too true. Virtually every pagan I've encountered has to make a big
deal out of their beliefs, how "enlightened" they are and such. Not to
mention all the claptrapped baggage that they carry around, e.g. "re -
birthing", healing crystals, "past lives", how "everything that has
existed since the beginning of time exists in me", how their souls all
emanated from Alpha Centauri or wherever...I mean why not just smoke a
joint and eat a big box of Ding - Dongs and mellow out, it's a LOT more
productive use of yer time.

Come to think they are no different than the hysterical adherents of
most of other belief systems...they just stick out more I guess for
their sheer ridiculousness.

A truly "spiritual" person should be so secure in their beliefs that
they should not have to inflict their beliefs on others or be yammering
on about it. No different than being an ex -smoker, a vegan, a
Republican, or an ex - alky, if you are secure there is no need to be
constantly bringng the subject up and berating others...

In the long run Pagans and their ilk are harmless bOObs - at least they
aren't dangerous motherf*cking Muslims....

--
Best
Greg

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

> Ranee wrote:
>
> > Interestingly enough, it is some of these self proclaimed pagans who
> > have been so combattive and insulting in this (and other) threads.
>
> You mean Jill, right? Go ahead, it's okay to say what you really mean: You
> mean Jill. I can understand Jill's frustration at the way the conversation
> has turned against her, when all she did was express her disbelief. She
> also expressed her distaste for some sandwiches (that *I* thought sounded
> mighty good). Suddenly she's in everybody's gunsights.
>
>
> <highschool>
> I hate her. She's SUCH a bitch! Let's CRUCIFY her!
> </highschool>
>
>
> <Sheldon>
> She has a nice rack but she's probably a WOP.
> </Sheldon>


SILENCIO, bOOb...!!!

--
Best
Greg
>
> Bob

bOOb wrote:

> Spitzmaus replied:
>
> > <snip/snipe>
> >
> > <snip/snipe>
> >
> > <snip/snipe ad nauseum>
> >
> >
> > Uh, peace on earth, goodwill towards men. (Ya think???)
>
>
> Both my response to Ranee and sarah's response to me were tongue-in-cheek.
>
> Just how heavy-handed does humor have to BE around here?


Don't look now, but your "humor" just sank the Bismarck...

--
Best
Greg