Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke

Please keep this circulating... You walk across the parking lot, unlock
your car, and get inside. Then you start the engine and shift into
REVERSE, and you look into the rear view mirror to back out of your
parking space and you notice a piece of paper stuck to the middle of the
rear window. So, you shift into PARK, unlock your doors and jump out of
your car to remove that
paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. When you reach
the back of your car, that is when the car-jacker appear out of nowhere,
jump into your car and take off! Your engine was running and they
practically mow you down as they speed off in your car. And guess what
ladies? I bet your purse is still in the car... BE AWARE OF THIS NEW
SCHEME THAT IS NOW BEING USED.Just drive away and remove the paper that
is stuck to your window later, and be thankful that you read this
email.. I hope you will forward this to friends and family... especially
to women! A purse contains all of your identification, and you certainly
do NOT want someone getting your home address. They already HAVE your keys!


--
BILL P.
Just Dog
&
ME

"William Boyd" > wrote in message
...
> Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke
>

The rumor of this is FALSE. Do yourself a favor before posting this kind of
drivel by checking snopes.com out first.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/carjack.asp

kili

"kilikini" > wrote in message
news
>
> "William Boyd" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke
>>
>
> The rumor of this is FALSE. Do yourself a favor before posting this kind
> of
> drivel by checking snopes.com out first.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/carjack.asp
>
> kili
>
>

It's actually a workable plan, but still....this junk mail thing is getting
old. It may as well say "Be careful going down your basement stairs - you
could trip and smash your head on the cement floor". Duh.

If you walk to your car in a parking-lot so oblivious to what's going
on around you that you fail to notice paper stuck to your rear window
as you approach... you deserve to have your car jacked. Kev

The latest scam in he Tucson area Malls....- l.

Two good looking 18 year old women walk over to your car
as you are parking.
One starts wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex,
the other comes to your window saying 'hi'
while bending over with her boobs almost coming out of her blouse,
and it's impossible not to look.

When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say no
and beg you for a ride to the Stonestown Mall.
You agree and tell them to sit in the back.

On the way they start having sex in the back seat.
Then one of them performs oral sex on you,
while the other one steals your wallet.


I was assaulted last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday,


but I couldn't find them on Saturday or Sunday.

Be careful.

<rj>

"<RJ>" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> The latest scam in he Tucson area Malls....- l.
>
> Two good looking 18 year old women walk over to your car
> as you are parking.
> One starts wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex,
> the other comes to your window saying 'hi'
> while bending over with her boobs almost coming out of her blouse,
> and it's impossible not to look.
>
> When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say no
> and beg you for a ride to the Stonestown Mall.
> You agree and tell them to sit in the back.
>
> On the way they start having sex in the back seat.
> Then one of them performs oral sex on you,
> while the other one steals your wallet.
>
>
> I was assaulted last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday,
>
>
> but I couldn't find them on Saturday or Sunday.
>
> Be careful.

ROFL!!!! :-)

Actually, something similar tried to happen to me a couple of years ago.
Driving through a ritzy part of Rochester, right by George Eastman's old
mansion, there's this black lady standing on the corner by a traffic light
with a red gasoline can in her hand. It was pouring, so I asked if she
needed a lift somewhere. She said she needed to go to a Mobil station which
happened to be not out of my way at all. Got there, pulled over, and she
says something like "How 'bout I give you a little somethin' special for
$20? Pull over behind the gas station." I just laughed and said "Right! How
about YOU pay ME?"

Yeah. OK. Couldn't get her out of the car. She kept looking for work, if you
know what I mean. I finally pulled out into the busy street, with the car
diagonally across the yellow line blocking traffic and said "If I stay like
this, the cops should get here real quick...." Out she went.

<RJ> wrote:
>
> The latest scam in he Tucson area Malls....- l.
>
> Two good looking 18 year old women walk over to your car
> as you are parking.
> One starts wiping your windshield with a rag and Windex,
> the other comes to your window saying 'hi'
> while bending over with her boobs almost coming out of her blouse,
> and it's impossible not to look.
>
> When you thank them and offer them a tip, they say no
> and beg you for a ride to the Stonestown Mall.
> You agree and tell them to sit in the back.
>
> On the way they start having sex in the back seat.
> Then one of them performs oral sex on you,
> while the other one steals your wallet.
>
>
> I was assaulted last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday,
>
>
> but I couldn't find them on Saturday or Sunday.
>
> Be careful.
>
> <rj>

Bummer about Monday, too!

<you just KNEW you shoulda gone out that day, didn't you? But,
nooooooooooooo...)

In article .com>, "kevnbro" > wrote:
> If you walk to your car in a parking-lot so oblivious to what's going
>on around you that you fail to notice paper stuck to your rear window
>as you approach... you deserve to have your car jacked. Kev

Yeah? Well, I'm afraid I'm one of those who bungs the groceries into
the car, leaps into the driver's seat, THEN notices that some droid
has stuck the latest advertising brochure under one of the friggin'
wiper blades! (But, so far, no one has been interested in my ancient
ute.

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 11:33:41 GMT, (Phred)
rummaged among random neurons and opined:

>Yeah? Well, I'm afraid I'm one of those who bungs the groceries into
>the car, leaps into the driver's seat, THEN notices that some droid
>has stuck the latest advertising brochure under one of the friggin'
>wiper blades! (But, so far, no one has been interested in my ancient
>ute.

<Raised hand> Yup, me, too, only I'm usually head down, turning on the
radio, sticking the cell phone on the charge, reverse out of the
parking lot and then and only then do I notice the flier when I've put
the car in drive. Lower window, turn on wipers and try to snag it...

And if the maroon who put it there would only just understand that the
only reason I have *memorized* his advertiser is so that I *never*
patronize the advertiser, he/she might want to find another line of
work.

Annoyingly,
Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."

-- Duncan Hines

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

(William*Boyd)WROTE:
Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke
Please keep this circulating... You walk across the parking lot, unlock
your car, and get inside. Then you start the engine and shift into
REVERSE, and you look into the rear view mirror to back out of your
parking space and you notice a piece of paper stuck to the middle of the
rear window. So, you shift into PARK, unlock your doors and jump out of
your car to remove that
paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. When you reach
the back of your car, that is when the car-jacker appear out of nowhere,
jump into your car and take off! Your engine was running and they
practically mow you down as they speed off in your car. And guess what
ladies? I bet your purse is still in the car... BE AWARE OF THIS NEW
SCHEME THAT IS NOW BEING USED.Just drive away and remove the paper that
is stuck to your window later, and be thankful that you read this
email.. I hope you will forward this to friends and family... especially
to women! A purse contains all of your identification, and you certainly
do NOT want someone getting your home address. They already HAVE your
keys! ------------------------------------------------------
RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if
paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light.
Latest going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk
with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to
turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full
membership to gang.

On 2006-01-06, ms. tonya > wrote:

> with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to
> turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full
> membership to gang.

From one urban legend to another:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/lightsout.asp

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2006-01-06, ms. tonya > wrote:
>
>> with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to
>> turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full
>> membership to gang.
>
> From one urban legend to another:
>
> http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/lightsout.asp
>
> nb

Yep, that one has been floating around the Internet for quite a while.

Jill

On 2006-01-06, jmcquown > wrote:

> Yep, that one has been floating around the Internet for quite a while.

Yeah. The closest I get to a car jacking, these days, is parking at
the mall and taking 10 minutes to remember where.

nb

> RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light. Latest going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full membership to gang.

I imagine anyone driving at night with their lights off is quite
aware of the fact- flashing your lights at them as you approach is
basically saying, "hey dumbass... turn your lights on!" at which point
(in Detroit apparently) you find yourself peppered about the face, neck
and chest with teen agnst 9mm. lead.
So I say... "leave the driving lesson communique's to the cops- good
samaritans oft' find themselves victems of their charity." Kev

In article .com>,
"kevnbro" > wrote:

> > RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if
> > paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light. Latest
> > going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk with head
> > lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to turn lights on.
> > Driver is then guned down and kid now has full membership to gang.
>
> I imagine anyone driving at night with their lights off is quite
> aware of the fact- flashing your lights at them as you approach is
> basically saying, "hey dumbass... turn your lights on!" at which point
> (in Detroit apparently) you find yourself peppered about the face, neck
> and chest with teen agnst 9mm. lead.
> So I say... "leave the driving lesson communique's to the cops- good
> samaritans oft' find themselves victems of their charity." Kev


Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
And learn how to use it!

I'm working on getting mine, and am yet on the lookout for said caliber.
I have a couple of others, but not one of those. I qualified with a 9mm
but have since been told by many that a .38 or a .45 would be a more
effective carry weapon.

The Redhawk is too big to conceal. <G>

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article .com>,
> "kevnbro" > wrote:
>
>> > RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless
>> > if
>> > paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light.
>> > Latest
>> > going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk with head
>> > lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to turn lights
>> > on.
>> > Driver is then guned down and kid now has full membership to gang.
>>
>> I imagine anyone driving at night with their lights off is quite
>> aware of the fact- flashing your lights at them as you approach is
>> basically saying, "hey dumbass... turn your lights on!" at which point
>> (in Detroit apparently) you find yourself peppered about the face, neck
>> and chest with teen agnst 9mm. lead.
>> So I say... "leave the driving lesson communique's to the cops- good
>> samaritans oft' find themselves victems of their charity." Kev
>
>
> Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
> And learn how to use it!
>
> I'm working on getting mine, and am yet on the lookout for said caliber.
> I have a couple of others, but not one of those. I qualified with a 9mm
> but have since been told by many that a .38 or a .45 would be a more
> effective carry weapon.
>
> The Redhawk is too big to conceal. <G>

Check out the new Kahr P45 before you make a decision on anything else. It's
a *really* nice little gun.
http://www.kahr.com/new_kp4543.html

In article >,
"Doug Kanter" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article .com>,
> > "kevnbro" > wrote:
> >
> >> > RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless
> >> > if
> >> > paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light.
> >> > Latest
> >> > going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk with head
> >> > lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to turn lights
> >> > on.
> >> > Driver is then guned down and kid now has full membership to gang.
> >>
> >> I imagine anyone driving at night with their lights off is quite
> >> aware of the fact- flashing your lights at them as you approach is
> >> basically saying, "hey dumbass... turn your lights on!" at which point
> >> (in Detroit apparently) you find yourself peppered about the face, neck
> >> and chest with teen agnst 9mm. lead.
> >> So I say... "leave the driving lesson communique's to the cops- good
> >> samaritans oft' find themselves victems of their charity." Kev
> >
> >
> > Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
> > And learn how to use it!
> >
> > I'm working on getting mine, and am yet on the lookout for said caliber.
> > I have a couple of others, but not one of those. I qualified with a 9mm
> > but have since been told by many that a .38 or a .45 would be a more
> > effective carry weapon.
> >
> > The Redhawk is too big to conceal. <G>
>
> Check out the new Kahr P45 before you make a decision on anything else. It's
> a *really* nice little gun.
> http://www.kahr.com/new_kp4543.html
>
>
>

That is nice, and a nice size...

and a nice price. <G>

I've been purchasing used weapons with excellent results so far.
It's saved me some $$$ and I got a hell of a deal on the Ruger Redhawk.
I could easily resell it for 1/2 again what I paid, but it ain't for
sale! <lol> It's a .357 and is my home-defense item.

I generally buy Ruger or S&W. How reliable are Kahr's?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

>Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
And learn how to use it!

Aah yes! The, "criminals will always have guns, so I should too"
mentality.

Scenario:
I have a gun in my car, you have a gun in your car... all God's
chillin' got a gun in the car.
Teen gang-banger starts bustin' caps at you for flashing your lights
and you return fire equally bent on destruction. Some of your bullets
hit their mark- some hit the car... others fly in my direction as i'm
riding alongside the gangster car. Wondering why i'm suddenly being
shot at by some dude being shot at by some dudes, i'm inspired to pull
my own 45 cal. and bang off a few... so off go my bullets whizzing in
and out of your automobile, in and out of gangster car and in and out
of a few others on the road turning the highway into a snowballing
capfest.

Since when does every bullet fired in anger or defense hit it's
intended target?

Grow up... get over the power trip of carrying a gun and accept the
fact that you're no Dirty F'n Harry and life isn't a vigilanty flick.
Kev

"kevnbro" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> >Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
> And learn how to use it!
>
> Aah yes! The, "criminals will always have guns, so I should too"
> mentality.
>
> Scenario:
> I have a gun in my car, you have a gun in your car... all God's
> chillin' got a gun in the car.
> Teen gang-banger starts bustin' caps at you for flashing your lights
> and you return fire equally bent on destruction. Some of your bullets
> hit their mark- some hit the car... others fly in my direction as i'm
> riding alongside the gangster car. Wondering why i'm suddenly being
> shot at by some dude being shot at by some dudes, i'm inspired to pull
> my own 45 cal. and bang off a few... so off go my bullets whizzing in
> and out of your automobile, in and out of gangster car and in and out
> of a few others on the road turning the highway into a snowballing
> capfest.
>
> Since when does every bullet fired in anger or defense hit it's
> intended target?
>
> Grow up... get over the power trip of carrying a gun and accept the
> fact that you're no Dirty F'n Harry and life isn't a vigilanty flick.
> Kev
>

Oh stop, will ya? You know people who own guns, and you're perfectly OK with
those people.

In article . com>,
"kevnbro" > wrote:

> >Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
> And learn how to use it!
>
> Aah yes! The, "criminals will always have guns, so I should too"
> mentality.
>
> Scenario:
> I have a gun in my car, you have a gun in your car... all God's
> chillin' got a gun in the car.
> Teen gang-banger starts bustin' caps at you for flashing your lights
> and you return fire equally bent on destruction. Some of your bullets
> hit their mark- some hit the car... others fly in my direction as i'm
> riding alongside the gangster car. Wondering why i'm suddenly being
> shot at by some dude being shot at by some dudes, i'm inspired to pull
> my own 45 cal. and bang off a few... so off go my bullets whizzing in
> and out of your automobile, in and out of gangster car and in and out
> of a few others on the road turning the highway into a snowballing
> capfest.
>
> Since when does every bullet fired in anger or defense hit it's
> intended target?
>
> Grow up... get over the power trip of carrying a gun and accept the
> fact that you're no Dirty F'n Harry and life isn't a vigilanty flick.
> Kev
>

So you would prefer to be a helpless victim?

Your choice......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Scenario:
**I have a gun in my car, you have a gun in your car... all God's
chillin' got a gun in the car.
Teen gang-banger starts bustin' caps at you for flashing your lights and
you return fire equally bent on destruction. Some of your bullets hit
their mark- some hit the car... others fly in my direction as i'm riding
alongside the gangster car. Wondering why i'm suddenly being shot at by
some dude being shot at by some dudes, i'm inspired to pull my own 45
cal. and bang off a few... so off go my bullets whizzing in and out of
your automobile, in and out of gangster car and in and out of a few
others on the road turning the highway into a snowballing capfest.
**Since when does every bullet fired in anger or defense hit it's
intended target?
**Grow up... get over the power trip of carrying a gun and accept
the fact that you're no Dirty F'n Harry and life isn't a vigilanty
flick. Kev
======================================

Power trip?
Maybe you live somewhere where you don't ever feel uncomfortable that
your life could be in danger?

People every day in this country get robbed, raped, and murdered just
going to buy a carton of milk at the corner store.

Your "Scenario" is basically a very unrealistic one. Oh sure, I've heard
of the occasional shootouts on California highways some years back. I'd
rather have a fighting chance, than let some POS crack head end my life,
or a loved one's without any chance of rebuttal.

I say it's about time that this country get its head out of its ass, and
take away a state's right to allow, or deny gun carry rights.

I say it's time to declare war on all the worthless waste of flesh in
this country. It's time we stand up, and stand together. Maybe we all
need to take a cur from Travis Bickle in "Taxi Driver".

The real shame of it is, you can't conceal carry a gun where you really
need one. In all non-carry states it's the two legged animals you have
to watch out for, not the four legged ones.

You never can say what can actually happen in a real life occurence.

Just watch something like Super Station WGN at 9, and the typical "shit"
that happens every day in a city like Chicago.

It could be myself, or someone else one day, the "armed" good samaritan
that saves you, and your loved one's life.

I'm just so sick of hearing about rotten worthless cocksuckers preying
on innocent people, and destroying their lives. Mark

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> In article .com>,
> "kevnbro" > wrote:
>
>
>>>RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if
>>>paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light. Latest
>>>going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk with head
>>>lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to turn lights on.
>>>Driver is then guned down and kid now has full membership to gang.
>>
>> I imagine anyone driving at night with their lights off is quite
>>aware of the fact- flashing your lights at them as you approach is
>>basically saying, "hey dumbass... turn your lights on!" at which point
>>(in Detroit apparently) you find yourself peppered about the face, neck
>>and chest with teen agnst 9mm. lead.
>> So I say... "leave the driving lesson communique's to the cops- good
>>samaritans oft' find themselves victems of their charity." Kev
>
>
>
> Get yourself a CHL, and a .45....... ;-)
> And learn how to use it!
>
> I'm working on getting mine, and am yet on the lookout for said caliber.
> I have a couple of others, but not one of those. I qualified with a 9mm
> but have since been told by many that a .38 or a .45 would be a more
> effective carry weapon.
>
> The Redhawk is too big to conceal. <G>
>
> Cheers!

There is endless debate about 9mm vs .38 Special +P vs .45, the answer
is whichever one you will actually carry. The first rule of gunfighting
is to have a gun.

9mm is perfectly adequate, especially if you can get some Winchester
"Lawman" +P+ ammo for it.

(the second rule is to have a *rifle* if you get to choose the time and
place)

Best regards,
Bob

In article >,
zxcvbob > wrote:

> There is endless debate about 9mm vs .38 Special +P vs .45, the answer
> is whichever one you will actually carry. The first rule of gunfighting
> is to have a gun.

Duh. ;-)

>
> 9mm is perfectly adequate, especially if you can get some Winchester
> "Lawman" +P+ ammo for it.

Still learning about ammo., thanks for the advice!
Right now all I have are target rounds.
Not very good for stopping power.

>
> (the second rule is to have a *rifle* if you get to choose the time and
> place)

That's between me, Bambi, and the .308...
Venison anyone?
(just to bring it kicking and screaming back on topic ;-) )

>
> Best regards,
> Bob

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

"ms. tonya" > wrote in message
...
(William Boyd)WROTE:
Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke
Please keep this circulating... You walk across the parking lot, unlock
your car, and get inside. Then you start the engine and shift into
REVERSE, and you look into the rear view mirror to back out of your
parking space and you notice a piece of paper stuck to the middle of the
rear window. So, you shift into PARK, unlock your doors and jump out of
your car to remove that
paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. When you reach
the back of your car, that is when the car-jacker appear out of nowhere,
jump into your car and take off! Your engine was running and they
practically mow you down as they speed off in your car. And guess what
ladies? I bet your purse is still in the car... BE AWARE OF THIS NEW
SCHEME THAT IS NOW BEING USED.Just drive away and remove the paper that
is stuck to your window later, and be thankful that you read this
email.. I hope you will forward this to friends and family... especially
to women! A purse contains all of your identification, and you certainly
do NOT want someone getting your home address. They already HAVE your
keys! ------------------------------------------------------

RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if
paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light.
Latest going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk
with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to
turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full
membership to gang.


=====================

Gangsters like that WANT to die. Helping them toward that goal is the
neighborly thing to do.

http://www.packing.org/state/michigan/
Michigan State Constitution Declaration of Rights
Article I, Section 6:
Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself
and the state.

> Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.

I don't bear my arms... my fair complexion is prone to sunburn and I
appreciate the appearance of wrinkle-free skin. K

"kevnbro" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself
>> and the state.
>
> I don't bear my arms... my fair complexion is prone to sunburn and I
> appreciate the appearance of wrinkle-free skin. K
>

<drum crash!>

"Is this an audience or an oil painting?"
-Henny Youngman

In article .com>,
"kevnbro" > wrote:

> > Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself
> > and the state.
>
> I don't bear my arms... my fair complexion is prone to sunburn and I
> appreciate the appearance of wrinkle-free skin. K
>

Smart ass.... <G>
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "ms. tonya" > wrote in message
> ...
> (William Boyd)WROTE:
> Subject: New form of car jacking - Not a joke
> Please keep this circulating... You walk across the parking lot, unlock
> your car, and get inside. Then you start the engine and shift into
> REVERSE, and you look into the rear view mirror to back out of your
> parking space and you notice a piece of paper stuck to the middle of the
> rear window. So, you shift into PARK, unlock your doors and jump out of
> your car to remove that
> paper (or whatever it is) that is obstructing your view. When you reach
> the back of your car, that is when the car-jacker appear out of nowhere,
> jump into your car and take off! Your engine was running and they
> practically mow you down as they speed off in your car. And guess what
> ladies? I bet your purse is still in the car... BE AWARE OF THIS NEW
> SCHEME THAT IS NOW BEING USED.Just drive away and remove the paper that
> is stuck to your window later, and be thankful that you read this
> email.. I hope you will forward this to friends and family... especially
> to women! A purse contains all of your identification, and you certainly
> do NOT want someone getting your home address. They already HAVE your
> keys! ------------------------------------------------------
>
> RESPONSE: Here in Detroit area they will carjack your auto regardless if
> paper is on your back window or simply stopped at a traffic light.
> Latest going on's here with potential gang member is driving at dusk
> with head lights off waiting for the first people to blink at him to
> turn lights on. Driver is then guned down and kid now has full
> membership to gang.
>
>
> =====================
>
> Gangsters like that WANT to die. Helping them toward that goal is the
> neighborly thing to do.
>
> http://www.packing.org/state/michigan/
> Michigan State Constitution Declaration of Rights
> Article I, Section 6:
> Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself
> and the state.
>
>

I agree with you. Unfortunately, even tho Michigan has open carry, you
can't have a loaded gun /in your car/ without a conceal carry permit.
Open carry doesn't apply in a vehicle. (stupid politicians)

I think if I lived in Detroit I would get a permit just so I could keep
a .44 Special in the glovebox or under the seat.

Bob

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...

>> Gangsters like that WANT to die. Helping them toward that goal is the
>> neighborly thing to do.
>>
>> http://www.packing.org/state/michigan/
>> Michigan State Constitution Declaration of Rights
>> Article I, Section 6:
>> Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself
>> and the state.
>
> I agree with you. Unfortunately, even tho Michigan has open carry, you
> can't have a loaded gun /in your car/ without a conceal carry permit. Open
> carry doesn't apply in a vehicle. (stupid politicians)
>
> I think if I lived in Detroit I would get a permit just so I could keep a
> .44 Special in the glovebox or under the seat.
>
> Bob

Permits aren't so bad. Although it's just a statistical sample of one, I
know one person who was too dumb to have a gun, and was prevented from
getting his permit for that reason. Long story.....

In article >,
"Doug Kanter" > wrote:

> Permits aren't so bad. Although it's just a statistical sample of one, I
> know one person who was too dumb to have a gun, and was prevented from
> getting his permit for that reason. Long story.....

Do tell? :-)

Sounds entertaining if you have time to type!

The permit process in Texas is a bit of a PITA, but it's do-able.

Have not finished all the paperwork yet, but I've got the class and some
of the notarized stuff done.

The only thing holding me up is passport pics.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson