Fred Stone wrote:
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> :
>
> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> >> oups.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >> >> >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> >> >> > > ups.com:
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > Jim-Poncin wrote:
> >> >> >> > > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >
> >> >> >> > > >> > > wrote in message
> >> >> >> > > >> > > news:1136257081.151461.40910
> >> >> @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
> >> >> >> > > >> > > .
> >> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> Andrew, it is you who is frail, enslaved to your
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> fantasy, insecurely striking out at those who
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> would bring you back to reality and mental
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> health.
> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > >> > > > The strength you covet is from the LORD.
> >> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> >> > > >> > > Andrew, I have all the strength I need
> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> > > >> > That is not what I discern.
> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> > > >> That's because you're blinded by your delusions.
> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> > > > You remind me of the blind man who chooses to disbelieve
> >> >> >> > > > the vision of the seeing.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > You remind me of the schizophrenic who is certain that his
> >> >> >> > > hallucinations are more real than anything his sane
> >> >> >> > > neighbors can see.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > And so the blind man would choose to believe that the seeing
> >> >> >> > are hallucinating.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why, because you say so?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No. Because of his sinful tendency to covet.
> >> >>
> >> >> You think you've got something that we want?
> >> >
> >> > It is what I know.
> >>
> >> I don't believe you.
> >
> > That would be your choice using the free will that the LORD has
> > generously given you.
> >
>
> I cannot choose to believe that your fairy tales are the truth.

It is written that what is impossible with man is possible with the
LORD. Would suggest you choose to place your faith in the LORD and see
what happens:

http://www.OurMableton.net/GiftForJesus

> >> >> Prove it exists.
> >> >
> >> > That is not the LORD's purpose for me here. Consider yourself
> >> > informed, however.
> >>
> >> I've heard it all before, many times. Consider me bored.
> >
> > Sorry the truth bores you. Please forgive my iniquities.
>
> You cannot be forgiven for something you do not repent of.

The act of forgiving is a choice that is possible for all who have the
gift of free will that the LORD has generously given.

> >> > You will remain in my prayers, dear Fred whom I love, in Jesus'
> >> > name.
> >>
> >> The Wellbutrin and the Synthroid do more for me than any number of
> >> prayers from any number of believers.
> >
> > Neither will ever heal or save you as the LORD moved by prayer might:
> >
> > http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/healer.asp
>
> Once again you make claims lacking evidence or proof.

May the LORD give you the proof you seek if you are truly seeking Him
with your heart in the spirit of Thomas of "doubting" fame, in Jesus'
most precious and holy name.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/12/06) from 6 to 7 pm
EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:22:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:

>Fred Stone wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> >> >> oups.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
>> >> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> >> >> >> > > ups.com:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> > Jim-Poncin wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > news:1136257081.151461.40910
>> >> >> @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > .
>> >> >> >> > > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> Andrew, it is you who is frail, enslaved to your
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> fantasy, insecurely striking out at those who
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> would bring you back to reality and mental
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> health.
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > > The strength you covet is from the LORD.
>> >> >> >> > > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > Andrew, I have all the strength I need
>> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > That is not what I discern.
>> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> > > >> That's because you're blinded by your delusions.
>> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > > > You remind me of the blind man who chooses to disbelieve
>> >> >> >> > > > the vision of the seeing.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > You remind me of the schizophrenic who is certain that his
>> >> >> >> > > hallucinations are more real than anything his sane
>> >> >> >> > > neighbors can see.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And so the blind man would choose to believe that the seeing
>> >> >> >> > are hallucinating.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Why, because you say so?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No. Because of his sinful tendency to covet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You think you've got something that we want?
>> >> >
>> >> > It is what I know.
>> >>
>> >> I don't believe you.
>> >
>> > That would be your choice using the free will that the LORD has
>> > generously given you.
>> >
>>
>> I cannot choose to believe that your fairy tales are the truth.
>
>It is written that what is impossible with man is possible with the
>LORD. Would suggest you choose to place your faith in the LORD and see
>what happens:


Faith is immoral. It requires you to pretend something is true that
you don't know is true. You can't build a morality on a lie.

You just have to stop lying to yourself.

And try actually reading the bible - without skipping over the
inconvient parts that don't fit your lie. You'd be amazed at how much
you miss when you stop doing that. And what a rather horrifying thing
it is.

It's a pretty story you have built up. And it's a different story
than every other theist has. Unfortunately it's all your own. You
have made your own god in your own image and you are trying to suck
others into worshipping it. Take responsibility for your actions.

It's the only moral thing to do.

Kate wrote:
>
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 09:22:18 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > wrote:
>
> >Fred Stone wrote:
> >>
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> >> :
> >> >>
> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> >> >> oups.com:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
> >> >> >> >> > > ups.com:
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > Jim-Poncin wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > news:1136257081.151461.40910
> >> >> >> @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > .
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> Andrew, it is you who is frail, enslaved to your
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> fantasy, insecurely striking out at those who
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> would bring you back to reality and mental
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> health.
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > > The strength you covet is from the LORD.
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > Andrew, I have all the strength I need
> >> >> >> >> > > >> >
> >> >> >> >> > > >> > That is not what I discern.
> >> >> >> >> > > >>
> >> >> >> >> > > >> That's because you're blinded by your delusions.
> >> >> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >> >> > > > You remind me of the blind man who chooses to disbelieve
> >> >> >> >> > > > the vision of the seeing.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > You remind me of the schizophrenic who is certain that his
> >> >> >> >> > > hallucinations are more real than anything his sane
> >> >> >> >> > > neighbors can see.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > And so the blind man would choose to believe that the seeing
> >> >> >> >> > are hallucinating.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Why, because you say so?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No. Because of his sinful tendency to covet.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You think you've got something that we want?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It is what I know.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't believe you.
> >> >
> >> > That would be your choice using the free will that the LORD has
> >> > generously given you.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I cannot choose to believe that your fairy tales are the truth.
> >
> >It is written that what is impossible with man is possible with the
> >LORD. Would suggest you choose to place your faith in the LORD and see
> >what happens:
>
> Faith is immoral.

That is not what I discern.

You will be in my prayers, dear Kate whom I love, in Jesus' name.

Would be more than happy to "glow" and chat about this and other things
like cardiology, diabetes and nutrition that interest those following
this thread here during the next on-line chat (01/12/2006) from 6 to 7
pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/cpayh

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/bgfqt

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/b6xwk

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
:

> Fred Stone wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> >> >> oups.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort wrote:
>> >> >> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Fred Stone wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote
>> >> >> >> > > in
>> >> >> >> > > news:1136465994.332949.35970
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
>> >> >> >> > > :
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> > Jim-Poncin wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > > wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > news:1136257081.151461.40910
>> >> >> @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com..
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > .
>> >> >> >> > > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> Andrew, it is you who is frail, enslaved to
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> your fantasy, insecurely striking out at those
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> who would bring you back to reality and mental
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> health.
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > > The strength you covet is from the LORD.
>> >> >> >> > > >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > > Andrew, I have all the strength I need
>> >> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> >> > > >> > That is not what I discern.
>> >> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> >> > > >> That's because you're blinded by your delusions.
>> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > > > You remind me of the blind man who chooses to
>> >> >> >> > > > disbelieve the vision of the seeing.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > You remind me of the schizophrenic who is certain that
>> >> >> >> > > his hallucinations are more real than anything his sane
>> >> >> >> > > neighbors can see.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And so the blind man would choose to believe that the
>> >> >> >> > seeing are hallucinating.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Why, because you say so?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No. Because of his sinful tendency to covet.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You think you've got something that we want?
>> >> >
>> >> > It is what I know.
>> >>
>> >> I don't believe you.
>> >
>> > That would be your choice using the free will that the LORD has
>> > generously given you.
>> >
>>
>> I cannot choose to believe that your fairy tales are the truth.
>
> It is written that what is impossible with man is possible with the
> LORD. Would suggest you choose to place your faith in the LORD and
> see what happens:
>
> http://www.OurMableton.net/GiftForJesus
>
>> >> >> Prove it exists.
>> >> >
>> >> > That is not the LORD's purpose for me here. Consider yourself
>> >> > informed, however.
>> >>
>> >> I've heard it all before, many times. Consider me bored.
>> >
>> > Sorry the truth bores you. Please forgive my iniquities.
>>
>> You cannot be forgiven for something you do not repent of.
>
> The act of forgiving is a choice that is possible for all who have the
> gift of free will that the LORD has generously given.
>
>> >> > You will remain in my prayers, dear Fred whom I love, in Jesus'
>> >> > name.
>> >>
>> >> The Wellbutrin and the Synthroid do more for me than any number of
>> >> prayers from any number of believers.
>> >
>> > Neither will ever heal or save you as the LORD moved by prayer
>> > might:
>> >
>> > http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/healer.asp
>>
>> Once again you make claims lacking evidence or proof.
>
> May the LORD give you the proof you seek if you are truly seeking Him
> with your heart in the spirit of Thomas of "doubting" fame, in Jesus'
> most precious and holy name.
>

I'm not interested in imaginary proofs from imaginary beings.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Point the finger and make a fuss
before someone points the finger at us."

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
:

> Kate wrote:

>>
>> Faith is immoral.
>
> That is not what I discern.
>

I discern that you are delusional.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Point the finger and make a fuss
before someone points the finger at us."

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
:

> Fred Stone wrote:
>>
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in
>> :
>>

<...>

>
> It is written that what is impossible with man is possible with the
> LORD. Would suggest you choose to place your faith in the LORD and
> see what happens:
>
> http://www.OurMableton.net/GiftForJesus
>

I still cannot choose to believe that which I do not believe.

<...>

>> You cannot be forgiven for something you do not repent of.
>
> The act of forgiving is a choice that is possible for all who have the
> gift of free will that the LORD has generously given.
>

My forgiveness is null and void if you choose to refuse to repent of
your behavior.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Point the finger and make a fuss
before someone points the finger at us."