In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:
(snip)
The
> waitpeople hereabouts dress like they just mucked the barn, smell like
> it too.... when you enter a steak house around NY's Capital region you
> know with absolute certainty you're in cow country.
>
> Sheldon

How are the steaks?
--
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Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> "Sheldon" wrote:
> (snip)
> The
> > waitpeople hereabouts dress like they just mucked the barn, smell like
> > it too.... when you enter a steak house around NY's Capital region you
> > know with absolute certainty you're in cow country.
> >
> > Sheldon
>
> How are the steaks?

Let's put it this way, I can do a whole lot better on my grill with
USDA Choice steaks [I choose myself] from the stupidmarket, and at
about 1/3 the cost. I very rarely order steak from any restaurant, I'm
usually disappointed in both the quality and the cooking... typically I
order dishes out I don't like to bother with at home, like liver,
seafood. Chinese, etc. I tend not to cook things at home that will
stink up the place or require a whole lot of ingredients I choose not
to stock.

The reason I tried steak at a few restaurants hereabout is because I'm
the newbie here and these joints came highly recommended by the
locals... I like to give folks a fair chance... when it comes to fine
food these hillybillys don't know shit from shinola... they'd best
stick to their church feeds. I shoulda backed right out of the last
highly recommended steakhouse soon as I saw those bright pink
tablecloths... looked like fabric for a suit Liberace would choose.
The salad bar was good, the 2nis excellent and generous... my
porterhouse was small, fatty, gristley and quite a bit over cooked from
medium rare... definitely not worth the $26. I did say something to
the waitres when she asked why I wasn't eating, she looked and offered
to get me a new steak but I declined, I knew I'd never be back. I
asked her to take my half eaten steak to teh cook and bring me another
2ni instead. She did and didn't charge. Wasn't her fault the cook
should be hung... I tipped her extra for the drink. I find more often
the service is great but the food stinks, that's why I don't mind
tipping service people.... to me tipping is to ensure I'll be
remembered as kind and generous and be treated in kind upon my return.
When I know I'll never be back I'll tip the customery 15%, but those
places I return to regularly I tip 20-25% (I return regularly for a
reason). And I always tip the bar separately, in fact typically as
soon as I walk in I order my first drink at the bar and spend a few
moments chatting with teh bar help, always good to let the bar know you
arrived. I get far more value in service and product than my generous
tips. Without repeat business and recommendations restaurants can't do
well, in fact they'll barely survive, lots don't. I don't eat out to
save money, I know the restaurant needs to make a profit, but I don't
like getting ripped off either... it being a pleasant experience is a
major part of why I'll eat out, otherwise I can more easily cook at
home, slapping a steak on the grill is easier than falling off a log.
And restaurants don't serve my favorite steak, a thick 1st cut chuck,
grilled really hot and fast. Only reason I order porterhouse out is
because I don't like steaks from the rib, those flavorless cuts are
reserved for the wimps who really don't like the taste of beef and have
rotten teeth... if you're gonna order ribeye you may as well save a few
bucks and order the skinless boneless chicken breasts, or better yet
the tofu... yep, I see those bottles of ketchup empty out on the tables
where folks order steak. If I ran a steak house there be no ketchup,
no steak sauce of any kind... what a stupid concept, "steak sauce"...
means you detest steak.... like those who order top shelf scotch for a
sour, and ask for extra sugar yet. Idiots.

Sheldon

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, Glitter Ninja wrote:

> Elaine Parrish > writes:
>
> >water with them (I mark that as considerate), however, in my home or in
> >their own, they filled their glasses with ice from the ice maker and then
> >poured their bottled water over it. What is it that they think they have -
>
> That's weird. Seriously weird. When we lived in a house in the old
> part of town, the water was so bad we had to buy filtered water from the
> grocery store, and we filled our ice cube trays with the filtered
> store-bought water. You could tell if you froze the tap water (usually
> because of the chunks in it. Ew.) My job was in the old part of town,
> too, and I got sick one day drinking too much water from the water
> fountain.
> I suspect for those who use both bottled and tap, it's preference and
> not necessity. I fully admit that I prefer bottled in many situations,
> even if it's just filtered tap water and nothing special, because
> getting ill on crappy water was a terrible feeling I don't want to
> repeat.
>
> Stacia
>

I can relate to the bad water. On the farm, we had a well and the water
was iron-rich - so iron rich that drinking it was akin to filling a glass
with with rusty nails and then pouring the water in. boo, hiss. We had to
have a heavy duty filter to get water that was anywhere near "clear".
Still the sinks and tubs had that unmistakable rust ring beneath the
faucets. Of course, I got beautiful auburn highlights in my very dark hair
for free!

When we moved "to town", we had city water. I thought I had died and gone
to heaven. I lost 10 pounds just by washing the iron ore out of my hair!

I love bottled water and drink a good bit of it, but I do it because I
like it. And I don't pour it over the ice cubes out of my ice maker <g>.
The commercial water is fine. There is nothing wrong with it. But it does
"taste" better boiled. So, I boil up some and keep it in the frige (so I
don't have to use ice). But even that I do simply because I like it.

I wish my friends would just say that they do it because they like it
(especially when they are filling their glasses with ice <g>). It's almost
like they have to justify drinking bottled water. Hey, get a clue, buy a
vowel! You're an adult. You can drink bottled water if you want to. You
don't even have to have a reason.

Some people do drink bottled water for health reasons, but I suspect my
friends are trying to be trendy and "keep up with the Joneses" without
having a clue. Typically, they are very in touch with being a round peg in
a round hole.

Elaine, too

Well..... when he was little, my brother lived for years on wheat thin
crackers and peanut butter. Oh, and Frosty-O's breakfast cereal and
milk. He would eat the occasional banana as well. One Thanksgiving in
later life, my grandmother turned to him and said "YOU were the very
worst eater of them ALL!" Which was perfectly true. All my sibs and I
had our "food issues" but my brother was the grand chamption of "I
won't eat___________" But he survived and he's in his 40's now, and in
apparent good health. =o)

Melissa

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, sarah bennett wrote:
> >
> >
> > There are people who really can't tell the difference. Rather than admit it,
> > they claim that people who can tell the difference are just being trendy.
> >
> >
>
> OTOH, I know many many people who will not buy store brands, citing
> quality as the reason. In my experience (and I *can* tell the difference
> between quality products and crap), most store brand ingredients that
> are not highly processed (i.e. canned tomatoes, eggs, kraft-level
> cheddar cheese, pasta) taste no different from the low-to mid priced
> national brands that most people purchase.
>
> --
>
> saerah

I totally agree. I have found some differences in "high-end" and "low-end"
products, but there are really few differences in store brands and medium
to lower priced brands. In many cases, the store brands are packed by the
same canners. The same goes for other products, too.

Many products today are produced by the same company and just labeled
differently. For some of the cheaper brands (not necessarily store
brands), a little less veggie and a little more water is added to the
can. So, I'm not sure there are a lot of "savings" when we calculate what
we are paying for water <g>.

Elaine, too

On 14 Jan 2006 10:55:02 -0800, I needed a babel fish to understand
"itsjoannotjoann" > :

>
>OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> I cook for myself and my father...
>> I cook what he likes as long as it is healthy. ;-)
>>
>> If I want something else, I make myself a separate meal.
>>
>> It's no big deal...
>>
>> NOBODY should be forced or badgered to eat something they don't like!
>> Life is too short to not enjoy your food.
>> --
>
>
>True, true. But then you have those that are 'fussy eaters' because
>their parents, mother in particular, who have kow towed to them.
>Example: Five year old great nephew who will eat nothing, but nothing,
>but chicken nuggets. We are at my s-i-l's house, his grandmother, for
>Thanksgiving. Every possible vegetable dish has been prepared,
>including turkey and ham plus the usual kiddie favorite of mac &
>cheese. Noooooo, he's got to have chicken nuggets. Pull some nuggets
>out of the freezer and pop them in the oven for the little prince. The
>little shit does this because he can get away with it. This is at
>every single meal not just Thanksgiving. I'd let the let darling
>starve until he could sit down at the table and eat what everyone else
>is having.

All I know is, my kids would NEVER get away with this. I do have a
daughter who pretty much always wants chicken nuggets if were going
out to eat. Either that or Pizza.
but, if were eating at someone else's house, or our own and that's not
on the menu, she know good and well to hold her tongue.
She does make some pretty choice faces on food I know she does not
like (spinach anyone)
----------------------------------------
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke

On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article
> >,
> Elaine Parrish > wrote:
> (Daddy's Menu Ordering When Someone Else is Buying class snipped)
> >
> > It really does make for a pleasant evening. It's right up there with slow
> > dancing with a man that knows that the hand he has on your back is there
> > to give signals and guide and the arm that is holding your hand is to be a
> > solidly stable rudder so the woman doesn't have to guess where his feet
> > are going. sheesh.
> >
> > In hindsight, my dad wasn't nearly as stoopid as I thought when I was a
> > teenager. go figure! <VBG>
> >
> > Elaine, too
>
> Are you sure you and Miss Manners aren't half-sisters? Do you REALLY
> know where your dad was on some of those nights when he wasn't home?
> "-) Go, Dad!! Your father's grace and manner remind me of a woman with
> whom I once worked: When we went to lunch and someone else was picking
> up the check, she'd always order large (with enough to take home) with a
> laughing, "Well, since Tim is buying, I'll have _FITB_." Your story
> reminds me of hers because it was an opposite attitude and behavior. :-/
>
> I believe I'll pass this along to Beck for lessons with Sam. Thanks,
> Elaine.
> --
> http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 1-15-2006, RIP Connie Drew
>


Tee hee hee. It's a Southern thang. It's officially called the Southern
Code of Conduct (I'm not kidding). It's been passed down from generation
to generation for more than 200 years. It was universal in the South until
about the 1970s when we as a society began to revert to being barbarians.
There are those that blame it on Elvis and Rock-N-Roll though I have
serious doubts <g>. I think garden variety greed comes closer to the
cause. There are fewer and fewer of us "faithful" and more and more
of the "barbarians" (Most of them are in politics - white trash in good
suits with brass balls and no conscience {:-0 ) "You can hitch a mule to
a carriage, but that doesn't make him a standardbred" (As grandpa was
fond of saying) haha.


It's a wonderful code. It covers everything and gave us a common society.
Learning the "code" and following it made (makes) you a good member of
society and put(s) everyone on the same page in common social situations.
Also referred to as "manners" or etiquette, it transcended all
socio-economic, race, and sex categories.

Many people today think that "good" manners are something that you kinda
make up along the way and do them when you feel like it or on a special
occasion, etc. There really is a "code of conduct" and it is optional.
Either one chooses to follow it .... or not. It is an "honor" system and
it is a system that is only as good as the "honor" of those involved.

The "Gentle" people adhered to the code and
were termed "Genteel". "Gentleman" has a specific meaning and is not
interchangeable with "man" or "male". As is true for "gentlewoman" or
"lady" [id.est the Gentleman's Lady].

By the same token, "white trash" and "poor white trash" and "white trash
scum" also have specific meanings.

There was a time when people found it a source of pride to be honorable
and genteel. Some still do. They worked very hard to make sure that they
upheld their "end of the bargin" and that their children were taught "not
to disgrace the family name" and how to accomplish that.

After the Civil War, everyone was poor - most painfully so for
generations to come. Before they could work out of it, several wars
and the Great Depression came along. But what even the poorest man could
be was honorable and mannerly - the mark of pride and self-respect because
it wasn't "the easy way out".

My grandfather used to say, " All I have is my solemn word and my good
name and if that is all I have when I leave this world, I will die a rich
man."

All of the politicians that I know could take a lesson. <g>

Elaine, too

Sheldon wrote:
> sarah bennett wrote:
>
>>I would venture to say that most bottled waters are just filtered tap
>>water.
>
>
> It "all* comes directly from a local municipal water tap...
<snip>

Uh, no. the companies that bottle water have to divulge where the water
comes from. There are a number of brands of water that come from
non-municipal sources.


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disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
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what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
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sarah bennett wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > sarah bennett wrote:
> >
> >>I would venture to say that most bottled waters are just filtered tap
> >>water.
> >
> >
> > It "all* comes directly from a local municipal water tap...
> <snip>
>
> Uh, no. the companies that bottle water have to divulge where the water
> comes from.

No they don't. All they need to provide is that it's water and the
business contact info. Other beverages and food products need not
mention the specific source of their water. Canned tuna doesn't say
where the contents were harvested.... like tuna, all you need know is
that water is from Planet Earth.

Sheldon wrote:
> sarah bennett wrote:
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>>sarah bennett wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would venture to say that most bottled waters are just filtered tap
>>>>water.
>>>
>>>
>>>It "all* comes directly from a local municipal water tap...
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>Uh, no. the companies that bottle water have to divulge where the water
>>comes from.
>
>
> No they don't. All they need to provide is that it's water and the
> business contact info. Other beverages and food products need not
> mention the specific source of their water. Canned tuna doesn't say
> where the contents were harvested.... like tuna, all you need know is
> that water is from Planet Earth.
>

http://www.bottledwater.org/public/p.../labeling.html

it's about halfway down. If the water comes from a municipal source, it
has to be labeled as such.

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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

>> That's weird. Seriously weird. When we lived in a house in the old
>> part of town, the water was so bad we had to buy filtered water from the
>> grocery store, and we filled our ice cube trays with the filtered
>> store-bought water.

In a million years I would *never* drink our tap water. The old septic
tank was located just a little bit too close to the well.

But we brush our teeth with it, I cook with it, and the animals drink
it without getting sick.

Jo Anne

Jo Anne Slaven wrote:

> In a million years I would *never* drink our tap water. The old septic
> tank was located just a little bit too close to the well.
>
> But we brush our teeth with it, I cook with it, and the animals drink
> it without getting sick.
>

We had a purification system installed in our place years ago. It consisted of
a chlorinator, an osmosis filter and a holding tank. I had to laugh at one guy
who liked out tap water and commented on its purity, so much better tasting
than the chlorinated water in the city. We probably had more chlorine in the
water than his city water.

On 2006-01-20, Elaine Parrish > wrote:

> The "Gentle" people adhered to the code and
> were termed "Genteel". "Gentleman" has a specific meaning and is not
> interchangeable with "man" or "male". As is true for "gentlewoman" or
> "lady" [id.est the Gentleman's Lady].

These are the same "Gentle" people who would bring their children to
a public picnic to watch a black man lynched from a tree, have his
genitals cut off, stuffed in his mouth, and set on fire. How
very "Genteel".

> By the same token, "white trash" and "poor white trash" and "white trash
> scum" also have specific meanings.

Yeah, it pretty much means you're not one of the "Genteel" crowd and
there's a fair chance you can end up beat to a pulp or worse.

There's a lot of things I love about The South, but the lack of
tolerance for anyone not conforming to the accepted norm, whether by
choice or by chance of birth, isn't one of them. I spent a couple
years in TN. Some of the finest most friendly people I ever met.
But, you exercise individuality at your own peril.

nb

On 2006-01-21, sarah bennett > wrote:

> it's about halfway down. If the water comes from a municipal source, it
> has to be labeled as such.

More mis-information from VI(TM). Labeling laws are different
from state to state and they all have plenty of loopholes. In CA,
water labeled spring water must actually come from a true spring and
cannot be filtered tap water. OTOH, it doesn't have to be the same
spring the brand was originally named after. Also, it's not required
to list as ingredients small amounts of added salt or chlorine. Very
few bottled waters are free of both. I know of only one. Many b/w's
are incredibly salty. Perrier is a freaking cow lick in a bottle!

nb

notbob wrote:
> On 2006-01-21, sarah bennett > wrote:
>
>
>>it's about halfway down. If the water comes from a municipal source, it
>>has to be labeled as such.
>
>
> More mis-information from VI(TM). Labeling laws are different
> from state to state and they all have plenty of loopholes. In CA,
> water labeled spring water must actually come from a true spring and
> cannot be filtered tap water. OTOH, it doesn't have to be the same
> spring the brand was originally named after. Also, it's not required
> to list as ingredients small amounts of added salt or chlorine. Very
> few bottled waters are free of both. I know of only one. Many b/w's
> are incredibly salty. Perrier is a freaking cow lick in a bottle!
>
> nb

Ok, I guess Sheldon's right about that one.

--

saerah

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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

sarah bennett wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
> > sarah bennett wrote:
> >>Sheldon wrote:
> >>>sarah bennett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I would venture to say that most bottled waters are just filtered tap
> >>>>water.
> >>>
> >>>It "all* comes directly from a local municipal water tap.
> >>
> >>Uh, no. the companies that bottle water have to divulge where the water
> >>comes from.
> >
> > No they don't. All they need to provide is that it's water and the
> > business contact info. Other beverages and food products need not
> > mention the specific source of their water. Canned tuna doesn't say
> > where the contents were harvested.... like tuna, all you need know is
> > that water is from Planet Earth.
> >
>
> http://www.bottledwater.org/public/p.../labeling.html
>
> it's about halfway down. If the water comes from a municipal source, it
> has to be labeled as such.

Nope. You don't read well (we already knew that). And you obviously
didn't read all the way to the end of that section. As anyone can
plainly see it's pretty much what I said.

After much wrangling regarding indication of water source, INSTEAD...

"Instead, FDA concluded_ that appropriate and feasible means to inform
consumer about their bottled water included:"

1. Providing on the bottled water label a company contact (with phone
number or an address) that would direct customers on how to obtain
information.

2. A combination approach whereby some quality information would be
specified on the label and the remainder of the information would be
available through contact with the company.

3. Distribution of an information package with bulk water deliveries.
---

As anyone can plainly see no source information is required.... anyone
with a working brain should understand why that information is
absolutely meaningless... potable water is potable water is potable
water.

Bottled water has previously been discussed to death on rfc. Amazing
how so many newbies arrive and somehow think rfc didn't exist prior to
their arrival. Really, the only new topics anymore are the OT ones,
everything on topic has been discussed down to its individual atoms
(some to their sub-atomic particles), and often.

At any given time a minimum 80% of regular rfc posters are newbies....
being generous here.

Claiming one changed handles doesn't exempt one from newbiedom unless
that fact
was at the time publicly posted and widely disseminated , whereasas all
regular posters were notified by email as well. It's just too easy to
steal some long ago past poster's identity... especially how so many
these days use munged addies and no real identifiable name... I mean
like there's got to be dozens of Boobs.

My name is real, my addie is real... nothing ever been munged.... there
really is no viable reason for hiding ones true ID except that you are
a low life lying sneak... yeah, I know some of you post under various
IDs, to rfc and other Newsgroups... some of yoose even perfom self
sex-change.

Sheldon (who's been posting to rfc continuously longer than anyone)

Sheldon wrote:

>
> At any given time a minimum 80% of regular rfc posters are newbies....
> being generous here.
>
> Claiming one changed handles doesn't exempt one from newbiedom unless
> that fact
> was at the time publicly posted and widely disseminated ,

who is claiming they changed their handle?


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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

sarah bennett wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> >
> > At any given time a minimum 80% of regular rfc posters are newbies....
> > being generous here.
> >
> > Claiming one changed handles doesn't exempt one from newbiedom unless
> > that fact
> > was at the time publicly posted and widely disseminated ,
>
> who is claiming they changed their handle?

RFC is a public forum... my posts are available to everyone... it's not
all about you. Did you forget and think this is email?

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>> Elaine replied to Nathalie:
>>
>> >> "cooked fish sushi" (an oxymoron IMO).
>>
>> The term "sushi" refers to the rice, not to what's on it. Eel sushi is
>> cooked, but it's still sushi.
>>
>> <snip>
>> > I don't know if it was steamed, blanched, poached, or something else. I
>> > saw Emeril "cook" some fish by making a marinade (with lemon juice?) and
>> > just soaking it for a few minutes. It still looked "raw", but he kept
>> > saying, "see how it is cooking?" Then he served it in some dish he had
>> > billed as "raw" something or other. So, apparently, it was raw, but it
was
>> > cooked. Does that make sense? So maybe they aren't "cooking" it, but just
>> > soaking it in something.
>>
>> You're talking about seviche. We've discussed it here many times. When fish
>> is soaked in an acidic solution, the proteins change in the same way as if
>> the fish was cooked. It's a very common preparation in Latin American and
>> Caribbean cuisines.
>>
>>
>> > I really don't know. I wasn't eating it and didn't plan to, so I wasn't
>> > real inquisitive. I tasted the shrimp one and the California Roll, but
>> > didn't care for the clump of cold rice or the wasabi.
>>
>> The "clump of cold rice" is what MAKES it sushi. If all you want is the
>> other stuff without the rice, don't ask for sushi.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>
> Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
>
> It's even MORE expensive!!!

oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!

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Sheldon wrote:
> sarah bennett wrote:
>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>At any given time a minimum 80% of regular rfc posters are newbies....
>>>being generous here.
>>>
>>>Claiming one changed handles doesn't exempt one from newbiedom unless
>>>that fact
>>>was at the time publicly posted and widely disseminated ,
>>
>>who is claiming they changed their handle?
>
>
> RFC is a public forum... my posts are available to everyone... it's not
> all about you. Did you forget and think this is email?
>

The fact that this is a public forum is why I asked. I mean, you were
replying to me, and implied upthread that I was a newbie, so I assumed
you were talking about me, but apparently not. Who are you talking
about? I am curious.

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"Peace is not an absence of war, it is a virtue, a state of mind, a
disposition for benevolence, confidence, justice."
-Baruch Spinoza

"There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly
what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
-Douglas Adams

Peter Aitken wrote:
> There are people who really can't tell the difference. Rather than admit it,
> they claim that people who can tell the difference are just being trendy.

Ok, how does that relate to sushi? Tell the difference between sushi
and what? AFAIC, sushi isn't special - I'm not sure what it is I am
supposed to be so impressed by. <shrug>

-L.

Sheldon wrote:

>
> My name is real, my addie is real... nothing ever been munged.... there
> really is no viable reason for hiding ones true ID except that you are
> a low life lying sneak... yeah, I know some of you post under various
> IDs, to rfc and other Newsgroups... some of yoose even perfom self
> sex-change.
>
> Sheldon (who's been posting to rfc continuously longer than anyone)
>

okay, seriously, it's little paragraphs like this that keep me reading your
posts. They're so ****ing...weird, I can't help myself. I know that if there
is any excessively loooong thread (this one, mexican oregano) I can just skip
to your posts and cheer myself up.

You're like the weird little cosmic-cracker hovering around and blessing us
with interdimensional moonbeams.

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Bubbo wrote:
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> >
> > My name is real, my addie is real... nothing ever been munged.... there
> > really is no viable reason for hiding ones true ID except that you are
> > a low life lying sneak... yeah, I know some of you post under various
> > IDs, to rfc and other Newsgroups... some of yoose even perfom self
> > sex-change.
> >
> > Sheldon (who's been posting to rfc continuously longer than anyone)

And changes his address to avoid killfiles (check the google stats).

--Blair

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:10:08 GMT, The Bubbo >
wrote:

>Sheldon wrote:
>
>>
>> My name is real, my addie is real... nothing ever been munged.... there
>> really is no viab
>> Sheldon (who's been posting to rfc continuously longer than anyone)

You have, Sheldon? Under what name? The earliest I can find you
posting is about May of 1996.

There are quite a few of us who have been posting continuously since
much earlier. For myself, I started posting in November 1994...just
after one of the split attempts. I know Nancy Dooley has been
posting longer...and I know of several others as well.

Christine

In article >,
The Bubbo > wrote:

> > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
> >
> > It's even MORE expensive!!!
>
> oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
>
> --
> .:Heather:.

It is indeed...
So is the octopus!

and the little quail eggs. ;-d
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> The Bubbo > wrote:
>
>
>>>Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
>>>
>>>It's even MORE expensive!!!
>>
>>oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
>>
>>--
>>.:Heather:.
>
>
> It is indeed...
> So is the octopus!
>
> and the little quail eggs. ;-d

::salivating at the thought of those little quail eggs::


--

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what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear
and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There
is another theory which states that this has already happened."
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> The Bubbo > wrote:
>
>> > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
>> >
>> > It's even MORE expensive!!!
>>
>> oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
>>
>> --
>> .:Heather:.
>
> It is indeed...
> So is the octopus!
>
> and the little quail eggs. ;-d

oooooh! the octopus can be so lovely if done right. Fatty salmon will always
be my favorite but I love it all except mackerel.



--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:10:08 GMT, The Bubbo >
> wrote:
> >Sheldon wrote:
> >> My name is real, my addie is real... nothing ever been munged.... there
> >> really is no viab
> >> Sheldon (who's been posting to rfc continuously longer than anyone)
>
> You have, Sheldon? Under what name? The earliest I can find you
> posting is about May of 1996.
>
> There are quite a few of us who have been posting continuously since
> much earlier. For myself, I started posting in November 1994...just
> after one of the split attempts. I know Nancy Dooley has been
> posting longer...and I know of several others as well.

I believe Sheldon means "without sleeping".

And, it goes without belaboring, "without saying anything of value."

--Blair

In article >,
says...
> In article >,
> The Bubbo > wrote:
>
> > > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
> > >
> > > It's even MORE expensive!!!
> >
> > oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
> >
> > --
> > .:Heather:.
>
> It is indeed...
> So is the octopus!
>
> and the little quail eggs. ;-d
>

After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
creatures.

Tony P. wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>> In article >,
>> The Bubbo > wrote:
>>
>> > > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > It's even MORE expensive!!!
>> >
>> > oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
>> >
>> > --
>> > .:Heather:.
>>
>> It is indeed...
>> So is the octopus!
>>
>> and the little quail eggs. ;-d
>>
>
> After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
> its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
> knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
> creatures.
>

http://www.glumbert.com/media/shark.html



--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

Tony P. wrote:

> After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
> its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
> knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
> creatures.


Octopi are SMART - as smart as cats at least...

--
Best
Greg

sarah bennett > writes:
>Sheldon wrote:

>> RFC is a public forum... my posts are available to everyone... it's not
>> all about you. Did you forget and think this is email?

So when you sent me that nasty, threatening email a few years ago, did
you forget and think you were posting online? You're crazy. I don't
care what anyone says to justify your behavior, you are certifiable.

>The fact that this is a public forum is why I asked. I mean, you were
>replying to me, and implied upthread that I was a newbie, so I assumed
>you were talking about me, but apparently not. Who are you talking
>about? I am curious.

He's probably just gotten paranoid and angry about some random thing
again. It happens pretty often.

Stacia

The Bubbo > writes:

>You're like the weird little cosmic-cracker hovering around and blessing us
>with interdimensional moonbeams.

That is the best thing I've read on Usenet in years.

Stacia

On 20 Jan 2006 18:07:20 -0800, "-L." > wrote:

>
>Peter Aitken wrote:
>> There are people who really can't tell the difference. Rather than admit it,
>> they claim that people who can tell the difference are just being trendy.
>
>Ok, how does that relate to sushi? Tell the difference between sushi
>and what? AFAIC, sushi isn't special - I'm not sure what it is I am
>supposed to be so impressed by. <shrug>

Just because *you* don't think it's special doesn't mean it isn't.

Nathalie in Switzerland

In article >,
Tony P. > wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> > In article >,
> > The Bubbo > wrote:
> >
> > > > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > It's even MORE expensive!!!
> > >
> > > oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
> > >
> > > --
> > > .:Heather:.
> >
> > It is indeed...
> > So is the octopus!
> >
> > and the little quail eggs. ;-d
> >
>
> After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
> its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
> knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
> creatures.
>

They are still tasty...... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
The Bubbo > wrote:

> http://www.glumbert.com/media/shark.html
>
>
>
> --
> .:Heather:.

That was seriously cool...... ;-)

Thanks!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Tony P. > wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> > In article >,
>> > The Bubbo > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > It's even MORE expensive!!!
>> > >
>> > > oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > .:Heather:.
>> >
>> > It is indeed...
>> > So is the octopus!
>> >
>> > and the little quail eggs. ;-d
>> >
>>
>> After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
>> its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
>> knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
>> creatures.
>>
>
> They are still tasty...... ;-)

Smart is tastier than stupid any day...

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

In article >,
The Bubbo > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Tony P. > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> > In article >,
> >> > The Bubbo > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > > Ask for Sashimi. ;-)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It's even MORE expensive!!!
> >> > >
> >> > > oh, but the super fatty salmon is so so so good!
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > .:Heather:.
> >> >
> >> > It is indeed...
> >> > So is the octopus!
> >> >
> >> > and the little quail eggs. ;-d
> >> >
> >>
> >> After seeing the story about the octopus that both was sneaking out of
> >> its tank for a little midnight snack and was covering its tracks and
> >> knew when it was being watched I have a whole new respect for the
> >> creatures.
> >>
> >
> > They are still tasty...... ;-)
>
> Smart is tastier than stupid any day...
>
> --
> .:Heather:.

ROFL!!!

Killer whale anyone? ;-D

Just kidding.
I DO draw the line at marine mammals......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article >,
(S'mee) wrote:

> I was checking out Gloria's Sweet & Sour Cocktail Meatball recipe
> (which sounds excellent, btw; my sibling makes something very similar).
> Anyway, I figured I wouldn't bother to save the recipe because Miguel
> (DH) doesn't like meatballs of any kind. Or white sauce. Or coconut.
> Or most sandwiches. *Sigh*
>
> Now I'm sure at least 10 people are queuing up to tell me I should
> make him eat it anyway, because they certainly wouldn't put up with
> that. But I'm more interested in knowing what kind of fussiness
> the rest of you may have to deal with...

My own fussiness comes to mind. I have some friends (and family) who
will eat any food item at least once. Not me. The list of stuff I
dislike (or refuse to try is very long). Still, I have never had a
problem finding something to eat, so I don't worry about it.

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006, notbob wrote:

> On 2006-01-20, Elaine Parrish > wrote:
>
> > The "Gentle" people adhered to the code and
> > were termed "Genteel". "Gentleman" has a specific meaning and is not
> > interchangeable with "man" or "male". As is true for "gentlewoman" or
> > "lady" [id.est the Gentleman's Lady].
>
> These are the same "Gentle" people who would bring their children to
> a public picnic to watch a black man lynched from a tree, have his
> genitals cut off, stuffed in his mouth, and set on fire. How
> very "Genteel".


Would these be picnics that were advertised in all the newspapers, on the
radio, and on television for weeks on end that were picked up by the
newswires and broadcast all throughout the country drawing huge crowds of
reporters documenting these events?

Would these be picnics that were held in the public square or at the
football stadium or at the baseball park at high noon with everyone taking
pictures and making video?


You know, notbob, this is the USA and you have the right to be an idiotic
fool, but you really shouldn't be so proud of strutting it around in
public.


Of the great many horrid atrocities that have occurred on Southern soil,
they didn't happen as you describe. The proof of that is that the
white trash scum that perpetrated those atrocities did so under cover of
darkness draped in sheets and hoods. They cloaked themselves in secrecy
and committed heinous acts out of the view of mainstream society. If
you know these atrocities, then you were peering out from under a pointed
hood at the time.

The people that participated in the atrocities were, throughout history
and are still now, the most cowardly, despicable, vile people on this
earth and are not mainstream southern society. They are not now, nor have
they ever been. Anyone unable to grasp that concept is stupid. Anyone who
would prejudge, judge, and condemn an entire group of people for the acts
of a few is a bigot by definition and ignorant by example. And, he should
go right out and buy himself a white sheet and a hood, because he is not a
bit different than they are regardless of his chosen object of
vilification. Moreover, he can proudly assume solid standing in the rank
and file of White Trash with his like-minded brethren and not ever have to
worry about being accepted in mainstream society.

Your need to hold culpable an entire group of people for the acts of some
is absolutely no different than the members of the KKK holding culpable an
entire group of people for the acts of some. Your need to vilify an entire
group of people is exactly like theirs. They can't meet the burdens of
society, stand on their own merits, or bear close scrutiny. Therefore,
they choose a group of people to vilify so they will have someone to which
they can feel superior. Geez, notbob, that's the classic case of the
jackass calling the donkey long-eared.

Man's capacity for committing horrendous acts against his fellow man is
infinite. It has been since the beginning of time and will be until the
end of time. There is no corner of the earth that has been spared. There
is no corner of these United States that has been spared, either. The
atrocities perpetrated against African-Americans on Southern soil were
(and are) unconscionable, as were (and are) the atrocities committed
throughout this country. More atrocities were (and are) perpetrated
against other races and groups daily even now as well from sea to shining
sea. We have a short and brutal history in this country. There is more
than enough blame to go around. Mainstream society in the US has never
accepted the atrocities as a norm and they do not now.

If you'd like to suggest that I am guilty because I didn't stop it or fix
it or change it, then I would charge you with the same. You were here for
a couple of years, why didn't you fix it? Why don't you fix it where you
live now? Do you really believe that all the KKK members, Neo-Nazis,
skinheads, white supremists, separatists, and all the other various and
sundry racists and bigots only live south of the Mason-Dixon line? If you
do, you need to take a bow because you are a righteous member of
Bigots-R-Us and totally equal to the White Trash dudes in the sheets and hoods.

People really have very little power regarding changing, stopping, fixing,
etc. the atrocities that mankind commits against mankind in this world.
This world is in a frightful state - right now as you live and breath.
It's filled with hate, crime, injustice, misdeeds, wars, corruption, and
inhumanity. What would you have me do - then or now? What have you done?
What are you doing? Why don't you just fix it all? Why did you allow it
to get this way in the first place? Of course, if it was never your
intention to invoke this idiotic argument, then this topic is not moot,
and I apologize for injecting it here.


>
> > By the same token, "white trash" and "poor white trash" and "white trash
> > scum" also have specific meanings.
>
> Yeah, it pretty much means you're not one of the "Genteel" crowd and
> there's a fair chance you can end up beat to a pulp or worse.
>

Hey, this is the USA, if you want to be white trash that is your right. Go
for it! Go all the way, be White Trash Scum. Just dont expect the world to
embrace you for it.

If you are not one of the genteel crowd, it is simply because you choose
not to be. You choose not to be by not bothering to learn some basic
manners and simple etiquette and choosing not to have personal integrity.
It has nothing to do with your station in life or with any financial
accounting or with the color of your skin. It has to do, totally and
completely, with the way you chose to conduct yourself in your private
life and when you interact with others, and how you behave in public, and
whether or not you choose to be honorable.

From your posts, I can see why you might have had a problem here.

This ng is filled with genteel people - those with manners and social
graces. They certainly are not all southerners and they aren't all from
the US. Here, no one is being judged by race, creed, color, national origin,
socio-economic standing, or condition of birth. And yet, the genteel are
easily recognizable. They are people with enough pride and self-respect to
rise out of the gutter of human baseness. We see the gutter-snipes and
white trash often enough right here, too, and they are just as easily
recognizable. Which you choose to be is your own free will. It is a matter
of personal choice and, perhaps, a modicum of intelligence - just enough
to recognize that there is a world above gutter level and to have enough
gumption to want to rise off your belly and crawl out. Then all one has to
do is to take enough personal responsibility to honor the guidelines of
civility, decorum, and common decency. For some, that is beyond all they
can muster. The same inadequacies of character and spirit that allow man
to abdicate his responsibilities in other areas, allow him to abdicate it
socially. Some think that respect is an on-demand right, while others see
no value in it at all. Those that don't have self-respect don't hold
respect as having value and don't have respect for others.

In any culture, there are mores, protocols, and acceptable and
non-acceptable behaviors. If you moved into any other culture, would you,
really, not expect to find unique mores, protocols, and acceptable and
non-acceptable behaviors that were different from your own? Do you really
believe that another culture would accept you if you if you disregarded
their cultural norms? The Asian societies are some of the most genteel
I've ever encountered. Do you think you would be respected in their
society if you disregarded their societal norms?

That would be very short-sighted of you. Geez, people cannot even move
from one ng to another in Usenet and be accepted if they do not learn the
culture and at least try to observe the mores. The fine citizens of RFC
protect, support, and even force this ngs culture on newbies. The attitude
in most ngs - including this one - is get with the program or get out. And
plenty of RFCers are quick to turn out into the cyber streets with
virtual baseball bats and tire irons to impress their will on others. You are,
frequently, leading the way. And, yes, that is a reference to that
jackass/mule/long-eared thang again.

With as much respect as I can muster (I am required to say that under the
guidelines of the Southern Code of Conduct, page 498, subsection 102A,
paragraph 5), if you want to denigrate my culture, you might want to
actually learn something about it first or have a baseball bat bigger than
my own (page 786, subsection 35, paragraph 3). A couple of years in
Tennessee won't get you many points (but it is better than someone that
has never even been here) and this post certainly doesn't inspire
confidence. But if you really think you know my culture well enough to
denigrate it, then put on your white sheet and your pointy hood and come
ahead. You'll not be the first bigot I've encountered and you won't be the
last.



> There's a lot of things I love about The South,

hehe. You conceal it very well.

>but the lack of
> tolerance for anyone not conforming to the accepted norm, whether by
> choice or by chance of birth, isn't one of them.

One norm? We have only one norm? Oh, I remember now. Going to church!

Well, yeah, but the Organized Religions are lightening up a bit. The
Church of Christ still hotly promotes that they are the only ones going to
heaven, but the others are pretty much ignoring that stance now. And none
of them drown you in the river for not going to church anymore. Geez, that
sounds pretty tolerant to me.


I spent a couple
> years in TN. Some of the finest most friendly people I ever met.
> But, you exercise individuality at your own peril.

Awwww, thats not fair. Being lewd, crude, rude, and vulgar are staples
with the White Trash. They welcome like kind and they have successfully
created a typical societal underbelly. You could slither over there any
time <g>.

>
> nb
>