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I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon
confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, white wine and Dijon mustard. http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg modom |
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mmmmm. that looks yum.
-- Bron |
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modom > wrote: > I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon > confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The > sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, > white wine and Dijon mustard. > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg > > > modom You should join alt.binaries.food :-) -- Peace, Om. "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson |
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![]() "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > modom > wrote: > >> I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon >> confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The >> sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, >> white wine and Dijon mustard. >> >> http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg >> >> >> modom > > You should join alt.binaries.food > > :-) No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no exceptions. |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:00:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
> wrote: >No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like >that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no >exceptions. > That is an astonishingly foolish thing to to say modom |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> modom > wrote: >> >>> I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon >>> confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The >>> sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, >>> white wine and Dijon mustard. >>> >>> http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg >>> >>> >>> modom >> You should join alt.binaries.food >> >> :-) > > No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like > that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no > exceptions. > > Perhaps you should take you own advice in this area. Especially when you post crappy pics for all to see like these: http://image50.webshots.com/50/4/77/...1nuaOMa_ph.jpg http://image52.webshots.com/152/5/76...1zPNNlL_ph.jpg Compared to the above crappy pics you took - modom's picture is great. |
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![]() "modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... >I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon > confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The > sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, > white wine and Dijon mustard. > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg I like photo and recipe. Could you please post the whole recipe? Cheers Pandora > > > modom |
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![]() "JohnHancock" > wrote in message news:QXfGf.57021$V.33596@fed1read04... > Doug Kanter wrote: >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message >> ... >>> In article >, >>> modom > wrote: >>> >>>> I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon >>>> confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The >>>> sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, >>>> white wine and Dijon mustard. >>>> >>>> http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg >>>> >>>> >>>> modom >>> You should join alt.binaries.food >>> >>> :-) >> >> No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like >> that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no >> exceptions. > > > Perhaps you should take you own advice in this area. Especially when you > post crappy pics for all to see like these: > > http://image50.webshots.com/50/4/77/...1nuaOMa_ph.jpg > > http://image52.webshots.com/152/5/76...1zPNNlL_ph.jpg > > > Compared to the above crappy pics you took - modom's picture is great. > Agreed, but no flash. And, they were posted as a spoof on all this "tonight's dinner" silliness. |
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![]() "modom" > wrote in message ... > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:00:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" > > wrote: > > >>No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like >>that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no >>exceptions. >> > That is an astonishingly foolish thing to to say OK - I'll modify the statement. You could take issue with the photography class comment, but certainly not my comment about using natural light instead of flash. For every 100,000 people who own one or more cameras, how many do you estimate also have the necessary diffusers and reflectors to use flash correctly? I'll guess and say 3. Sometimes there's no choice, like when a press photographer absolutely has to get a shot of someone coming out of a courtroom, or freezing the action at a kid's birthday party. But, for most of us "civilians", flash results in the worst possible pictures. Since a dish of food is (or at least should be) stationary, it's easy to find better options. |
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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:20:04 -0600, modom wrote:
The asparagus look really nice and green. Did you trim the asparagus ends? |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:28 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:
> it's easy to find better options. What are they?? at night in a residential kitchen. Can you even turn the flash off of the cheap cameras? |
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![]() "jay" > wrote in message news ![]() > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:28 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: > >> it's easy to find better options. > > > What are they?? at night in a residential kitchen. Two options: Overhead light and adjust white balance. Or, no picture. People choose "no picture" all the time. > Can you even turn the > flash off of the cheap cameras? > If you had a recipe which required extremely thin slices of meat, and you had no sharp knife, no sharpener and no neighbor to borrow from, would you make the recipe, or choose another? |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:02 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:
> > "jay" > wrote in message > news ![]() >> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:28 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: >> >>> it's easy to find better options. >> >> >> What are they?? at night in a residential kitchen. > > Two options: Overhead light and adjust white balance. Or, no picture. People > choose "no picture" all the time. >> Can you even turn the >> flash off of the cheap cameras? >> > > If you had a recipe which required extremely thin slices of meat, and you > had no sharp knife, no sharpener and no neighbor to borrow from, would you > make the recipe, or choose another? BS.. you must teach school. |
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![]() "jay" > wrote in message news ![]() > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:31:02 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: > >> >> "jay" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:28 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: >>> >>>> it's easy to find better options. >>> >>> >>> What are they?? at night in a residential kitchen. >> >> Two options: Overhead light and adjust white balance. Or, no picture. >> People >> choose "no picture" all the time. > > >>> Can you even turn the >>> flash off of the cheap cameras? >>> >> >> If you had a recipe which required extremely thin slices of meat, and you >> had no sharp knife, no sharpener and no neighbor to borrow from, would >> you >> make the recipe, or choose another? > > > BS.. you must teach school. Nope. :-) When I look, I see. Learned it from my biology teacher 35-ish years ago. It's a rare skill these days. |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:41:26 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:
>> BS.. you must teach school. > > Nope. :-) When I look, I see. Learned it from my biology teacher 35-ish > years ago. It's a rare skill these days. I looked at your pictures. Enough said. |
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![]() "jay" > wrote in message news ![]() > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:41:26 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: > > >>> BS.. you must teach school. >> >> Nope. :-) When I look, I see. Learned it from my biology teacher 35-ish >> years ago. It's a rare skill these days. > > I looked at your pictures. Enough said. > Yes, but my goal was not to make anything look appetizing. The towel looked pretty good, though. |
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 08:37:52 +0100, "Pandora" >
wrote: > >"modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio .. . >>I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon >> confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The >> sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, >> white wine and Dijon mustard. >> >> http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg > >I like photo and recipe. >Could you please post the whole recipe? Pandora, there really wasn't a recipe. I minced a shallot and chopped some dried figs and minced a little preserved lemon (Tom Colicchio's recipe from The Craft of Cooking). I pounded the loin chops till they were about 3/8 inch thick. I'd guess that's about a centimeter for you Europeans. Maybe thinner than that. I set the fig/lemon/shallot mix on the meat and added some herbs de Provence. I rolled them up and set them in a skillet with some olive oil and dusted them with black pepper. I brought them to a sizzle and got them a little brown. Then I set them in the 350F convection oven. While they roasted, I chopped a mirepoix and sweated it in olive oil. About 1 1/2 tablespoons each. When the mirepoix began to get a little color, I added chicken stock and wine -- about a cup of each. Maybe more chicken stock than that. Reduced it a lot. A lot. Then I added about 1 1/2 teaspons of dijon mustard and two dashes of cayenne. After the chops were done -- about 20 minutes -- I pulled the skillet from the oven and dumped the sauce over them along with about 1/4 cup more white wine to deglaze the pan. I cooked it down on the stove top till the sauce was thickened. That's about it. modom |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:24:02 GMT, jay > wrote:
>On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 13:50:28 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote: > >> it's easy to find better options. > > >What are they?? at night in a residential kitchen. Can you even turn the >flash off of the cheap cameras? Actually I had to turn the flash on! And the camera is a pretty expensive one, to boot. But thanks for the defense anyway. As a working visual artist and a teacher, I was well aware of the relative quality of the photo I posted. I made some decisions about the technology and the meal and the image and offered what I offered with fairly clear idea of what I was doing. I didn't tidy the plate or check the white balance or anything like that. The aim was to present a rough and ready document of some stuff I'd made and was about to eat. Prettyfication seemed to run counter to that aim. Doug's suggestion that I educate myself seemed to be rather like the man who tasted a cup of tea and complained that it was really bad coffee. Except in this case it also presumed that I was ignorant, and that presumption was an error of a different sort. modom |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:14:51 GMT, jay > wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:20:04 -0600, modom wrote: > >The asparagus look really nice and green. Did you trim the asparagus ends? I popped them where they wanted to break. It was fun to do, by the way. modom |
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![]() "modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 08:37:52 +0100, "Pandora" > > wrote: > >> >>"modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio . .. >>>I stuffed pounded pork loin chops with a mix of dried figs, lemon >>> confit, and shallot. All were minced. Well, not the chops. The >>> sauce is a mirepoix with reduced chicken stock, a dash of cayenne, >>> white wine and Dijon mustard. >>> >>> http://i1.tinypic.com/ndrjva.jpg >> >>I like photo and recipe. >>Could you please post the whole recipe? > > Pandora, there really wasn't a recipe. I minced a shallot and chopped > some dried figs and minced a little preserved lemon (Tom Colicchio's > recipe from The Craft of Cooking). I pounded the loin chops till they > were about 3/8 inch thick. I'd guess that's about a centimeter for > you Europeans. Maybe thinner than that. I set the fig/lemon/shallot > mix on the meat and added some herbs de Provence. I rolled them up > and set them in a skillet with some olive oil and dusted them with > black pepper. I brought them to a sizzle and got them a little brown. > Then I set them in the 350F convection oven. Oh Thank you! It's a very nice recipe! > > While they roasted, I chopped a mirepoix and sweated it in olive oil. > About 1 1/2 tablespoons each. When the mirepoix began to get a little > color, I added chicken stock and wine -- about a cup of each. Maybe > more chicken stock than that. Reduced it a lot. A lot. Then I added > about 1 1/2 teaspons of dijon mustard and two dashes of cayenne. What is a mirepoix? > > After the chops were done -- about 20 minutes -- I pulled the skillet > from the oven and dumped the sauce over them along with about 1/4 cup > more white wine to deglaze the pan. I cooked it down on the stove top > till the sauce was thickened. I think I will make ASAP. I like the combination of taste you made. Thank you Pandora > > That's about it. > > modom |
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:10:02 +0100, "Pandora" >
wrote: >> While they roasted, I chopped a mirepoix and sweated it in olive oil. >> About 1 1/2 tablespoons each. When the mirepoix began to get a little >> color, I added chicken stock and wine -- about a cup of each. Maybe >> more chicken stock than that. Reduced it a lot. A lot. Then I added >> about 1 1/2 teaspons of dijon mustard and two dashes of cayenne. > >What is a mirepoix? From: http://www.foodreference.com/html/fmirepoix.html "A mirepoix is a mixture of diced vegetables, carrots, onions and celery (sometimes with ham or bacon), usually sauted in butter. It is said to have been created in the 18th century by the chef of the Duc de Levis-Mirepoix in France. Mirepoix is used to flavor stews, soups, stocks, etc. The usual mixture is 50% onions, and 25% each carrots and celery." > >I think I will make ASAP. I like the combination of taste you made. >Thank you >Pandora Remember to trust your instincts about relative measurements and proportions. Go with what seems right to you. modom |
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![]() "modom" > ha scritto nel messaggio ... > On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:10:02 +0100, "Pandora" > > wrote: > >>> While they roasted, I chopped a mirepoix and sweated it in olive oil. >>> About 1 1/2 tablespoons each. When the mirepoix began to get a little >>> color, I added chicken stock and wine -- about a cup of each. Maybe >>> more chicken stock than that. Reduced it a lot. A lot. Then I added >>> about 1 1/2 teaspons of dijon mustard and two dashes of cayenne. >> >>What is a mirepoix? > > From: http://www.foodreference.com/html/fmirepoix.html > > "A mirepoix is a mixture of diced vegetables, carrots, onions and > celery (sometimes with ham or bacon), usually sauted in butter. It is > said to have been created in the 18th century by the chef of the Duc > de Levis-Mirepoix in France. Mirepoix is used to flavor stews, soups, > stocks, etc. The usual mixture is 50% onions, and 25% each carrots and > celery." Oh! I understand, We call it "Soffritto"! > >> >>I think I will make ASAP. I like the combination of taste you made. >>Thank you >>Pandora > > Remember to trust your instincts about relative measurements and > proportions. Go with what seems right to you. Of course. Thank you very much! Pandora > > > modom |
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modom > wrote: > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 14:14:51 GMT, jay > wrote: > >The asparagus look really nice and green. Did you trim the asparagus ends? > > I popped them where they wanted to break. It was fun to do, by the > way. I don't know how to do this. I thought I did, for years. Then one day I realized that it wants to break at the tip. I took some of the butts that I was about to toss, and bit into them. They were tender, crisp and sweet! I realized that about half of what I was going to toss was perfectly good. A few years later I got a really nice bunch of asparagus. Right away my wife starts in on me with the "break it off and throw it away" routine. I broke a bottom off and ate it. It was just fine! -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California, USA |
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modom > wrote: > On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:00:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" > > wrote: > > > >No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like > >that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no > >exceptions. > > > That is an astonishingly foolish thing to to say Haven't been posting here long, have you? :-( On a scale of foolishness on this group, I'd only give it a "3". How can you even compare that with "don't buy a teddy bear or you're a pedophile"? Frankly, I like your dinner pictures much better than the professional pictures I see in magazines. I know that your food is designed to be eaten, and that right after you take these pictures, you eat dinner. We don't wipe the drops of sauce off of the rims of our plates before we eat, and we don't arrange the meat slices "just so" either. And the crowning touch is that it's February in the northern hemisphere. There *is* no natural light at dinner time! -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California, USA |
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"Doug Kanter" > wrote: > If you had a recipe which required extremely thin slices of meat, and you > had no sharp knife, no sharpener and no neighbor to borrow from, would you > make the recipe, or choose another? I'd take my gun...and shoot myself! An rfc poster without a sharp knife? Just not a possibility. Actually, I'd just have the butcher slice it. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California, USA |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:22:18 -0800, Dan Abel > wrote:
>In article >, > modom > wrote: > >> On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 04:00:14 GMT, "Doug Kanter" >> > wrote: >> >> >No....it should join a photography class in its home town. A picture like >> >that should be done in natural light, not with flash. There are no >> >exceptions. >> > >> That is an astonishingly foolish thing to to say >Haven't been posting here long, have you? Only about 12 years. But, I'm trying to learn my way about as quickly as I can. Probably I was just in one of those too easily astonished moods that hit me from time to time. > >On a scale of foolishness on this group, I'd only give it a "3". How >can you even compare that with "don't buy a teddy bear or you're a >pedophile"? Point it well taken. And yet aesthetic judgments that allow no exceptions strike me as astonishingly foolish. That might just be me, though -- something to do with my profession. > >Frankly, I like your dinner pictures much better than the professional >pictures I see in magazines. I know that your food is designed to be >eaten, and that right after you take these pictures, you eat dinner. We >don't wipe the drops of sauce off of the rims of our plates before we >eat, and we don't arrange the meat slices "just so" either. > Communication is possible after all! >And the crowning touch is that it's February in the northern hemisphere. >There *is* no natural light at dinner time! And my kitchen has no windows, anyway. modom |
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