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I've made it clear that I would never boycott a local business just
because it was owned or run by Moslems. I've already sworn off Iranian
fairy floss, my teeth aren't the best and the one time I tried it I had
to rinse my mouth out the pain was so bad.

However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how would
I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're not
required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to find
it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but nobody
makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors are Jewsh
and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish businesses at the moment.

Obviously Turkish restaurants are a no-brainer. Turkish bakeries are
more problematical. Their products are everywhere - even if I'm sure
the lunch place is not run by Moslems, do I have to ask where they get
the pides and foccaccias? Probably safer to stick to baguettes.

The lunch places themselves are a problem. If all the Lebanese in the
Melbourne food industry dropped dead, we'd starve to death, certainly at
lunchtime. But how do you know if somebody who you think is probably
Lebanese - could be Greek or Egyptian or some other sort of wog, after
all - is Christian or Moslem? Or maybe a Scientologist?

Same thing goes for Indian and Malyasian restaurants and grocers. Not
to mention the distinct possibility that there are a number of partners
of different backgrounds. I'm not seriously going to ask, now am I? But
I'm hardly going to boycott our new local Indian restaurant -
proprietors orginally from Malaysia and Mumbai - because I don't know
the religious backgrounds of the proprietors.

Get away from retail businesses and it gets worse. There are Indians
everywhere these days. Doctors, lawyers, IT professionals, and they
never mention their religion. The Moslems really ought to wear some sort
of badge you know so you can identify them.

And don't mention the cricket, tests against India and Pakistan would
definitely have to be ignored but we'd have to refuse to play the
English as well on account of the ethnic origins of some of their players.

I have the idea that ths sort of problem has arisen in the past, I'm
just trying to remember where...

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Old Mother Ashby > wrote:


> However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how would
> I know who to stay away from?


You must be really stupid. Haven't you ever noticed those tattoos on
their foreheads? The "A" is for agnostic, the "C" for Christian, the
"M" for Moslem and the "A" for atheist.

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Don't buy any gas. Walk, bus, subway to work. If the whole nation
started dumping the SUV, the middle east will be in financial ruin,
they won't have any money to buy weapons.

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Dan Abel wrote:


You forgot to mention the I - for IDIOT - that IS on YOUR forehead!
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"Old Mother Ashby" > wrote in message
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> I have the idea that ths sort of problem has arisen in the past, I'm
> just trying to remember where...


Subtle, Christine. Very subtle.

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Old Mother Ashby wrote:

> However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how
> would I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're
> not required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
> affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to
> find it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but
> nobody makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors
> are Jewsh and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish
> businesses at the moment.


My maternal grandmother claimed that all the pork stores in NYC were
Jewish-owned. I doubt that; but some were.

I believe there are Turks and Arabs selling Greek food in Minneapolis.

Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine advocated a
boycott against maple syrup to send the US a message.


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Dan Abel wrote:

>In article
>,
> Old Mother Ashby > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>>However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how would
>>I know who to stay away from?
>>
>>

>
>You must be really stupid. Haven't you ever noticed those tattoos on
>their foreheads? The "A" is for agnostic, the "C" for Christian, the
>"M" for Moslem and the "A" for atheist.
>
>
>

Of course, silly me. It's in the Bible, isn't it, the Mark of The Beast.
Never mind, I'm going to the optometrist soon, I'll ask him about it, my
prescription might need adjusting.

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Dan Goodman wrote:

>Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>
>
>
>>However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how
>>would I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're
>>not required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
>>affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to
>>find it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but
>>nobody makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors
>>are Jewsh and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish
>>businesses at the moment.
>>
>>

>
>My maternal grandmother claimed that all the pork stores in NYC were
>Jewish-owned. I doubt that; but some were.
>
>I believe there are Turks and Arabs selling Greek food in Minneapolis.
>
>Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine advocated a
>boycott against maple syrup to send the US a message.
>
>
>
>

Monty Python lives!

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Dan Goodman wrote:

> Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>
> > However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how
> > would I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're
> > not required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
> > affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to
> > find it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but
> > nobody makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors
> > are Jewsh and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish
> > businesses at the moment.

>
> My maternal grandmother claimed that all the pork stores in NYC were
> Jewish-owned. I doubt that; but some were.
>
> I believe there are Turks and Arabs selling Greek food in Minneapolis.



Devout Mormons have huge holdings in Las Vegas...

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Why woudl you want to stay away form people because of their nationality?

I have been known to boycot something for a while, but only based on
actual behavior form identifiable people that were part of the business
in question. I.e., someone not refunding a damaged good, or there was
that time when I was *falsely* accused of attempted theft behind my back.
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> Why woudl you want to stay away form people because of their nationality?



Because certain nationalities can have have traits that are fairly
obnoxious, e.g. Russians (rude), Koreans (cheap), Albanians (thieving),
etc...

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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> jake wrote:
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> > Why woudl you want to stay away form people because of their nationality?

>
>
> Because certain nationalities can have have traits that are fairly
> obnoxious, e.g. Russians (rude), Koreans (cheap), Albanians (thieving),
> etc...


WOPs (filth, pickpocket [~Albanian],)

Merriam Webster Thesaurus

filth

noun

1 foul matter that mars the purity or cleanliness of something <the
filth in the restaurant's kitchen was unbelievable>
Synonyms dirt, grime, muck, smut, soil
Related words scum, sewage, slime, sludge, swill; garbage, refuse,
trash; soot; dirtiness, filthiness, foulness, griminess, grubbiness,
nastiness, squalidness, uncleanliness, uncleanness
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Sheldon

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> jake wrote:
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>>Why woudl you want to stay away form people because of their nationality?

>
>
>
> Because certain nationalities can have have traits that are fairly
> obnoxious, e.g. Russians (rude), Koreans (cheap), Albanians (thieving),
> etc...
>


I don't know how not to interpret that as racism
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Dan Goodman wrote:
>
>> Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>>
>>> However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how
>>> would I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're
>>> not required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
>>> affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to
>>> find it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but
>>> nobody makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors
>>> are Jewsh and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish
>>> businesses at the moment.

>> My maternal grandmother claimed that all the pork stores in NYC were
>> Jewish-owned. I doubt that; but some were.
>>
>> I believe there are Turks and Arabs selling Greek food in Minneapolis.

>
>
> Devout Mormons have huge holdings in Las Vegas...


Hey, don't laugh! In the border towns of southern Idaho, it's estimated
that 90% of their lottery ticket sales are to Utah residents!

<and my great aunt used to swear that Jews ate pork in the dark corners
of Chinese restaurants, and not just on Christmas>



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Old Mother Ashby > wrote in
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> The lunch places themselves are a problem. If all the Lebanese in
> the Melbourne food industry dropped dead, we'd starve to death,
> certainly at lunchtime. But how do you know if somebody who you
> think is probably Lebanese - could be Greek or Egyptian or some
> other sort of wog, after all - is Christian or Moslem? Or maybe a
> Scientologist?


He could be a Lebanese Scientologist of Christian background. I knew a
Lebanese couple who ran a restaurant called the El Morocco and they
were Jehovah's Witnesses.

I met a Chinese fellow from Taiwan whose parents were devout Shinto.
Most pizzerias in Ottawa are owned by Lebanese, except in the Italian
quarter, obviously.

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the poor have no food, they call me a communist."

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"Dan Goodman" > wrote in
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> Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine
> advocated a boycott against maple syrup to send the US a message.


Huh? Québec is the largest producer of maple syrup...that is another
stupid boycott.

"The province of Quebec in Canada is by far the world's largest
producer of maple syrup, producing 15,600,000 litres in 2001 - about
four times as much as all U.S. production combined."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup

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In article >,
Michel Boucher > wrote:


> Huh? Québec is the largest producer of maple syrup...that is another
> stupid boycott.
>
> "The province of Quebec in Canada is by far the world's largest
> producer of maple syrup, producing 15,600,000 litres in 2001 - about
> four times as much as all U.S. production combined."



Practice makes perfect.

There are 200,000 Muslims in Denmark. Boycotting Danish products will
hurt them.

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> There are 200,000 Muslims in Denmark. Boycotting Danish products
> will hurt them.


They aren't the one who are rioting. As far as I know, all their
demonstrations have been peaceful. Why would you want to punish them?
Did you want them to riot?

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In article >,
Michel Boucher > wrote:

> Dan Abel > wrote in
> :
>
> > There are 200,000 Muslims in Denmark. Boycotting Danish products
> > will hurt them.

>
> They aren't the one who are rioting. As far as I know, all their
> demonstrations have been peaceful. Why would you want to punish them?
> Did you want them to riot?


I was trying to agree with you! This boycott is stupid.

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Dan Abel > wrote in
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> In article >,
> Michel Boucher > wrote:
>
>> Dan Abel > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > There are 200,000 Muslims in Denmark. Boycotting Danish
>> > products will hurt them.

>>
>> They aren't the one who are rioting. As far as I know, all their
>> demonstrations have been peaceful. Why would you want to punish
>> them? Did you want them to riot?

>
> I was trying to agree with you! This boycott is stupid.


Ah, sorry. Irony is so hard to parse out sometimes :-)

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In article > ,
"Dan Goodman" > wrote:

> Old Mother Ashby wrote:
>
> > However I've been thinking. If I did want to stage a boycott, how
> > would I know who to stay away from? I mean, in this country you're
> > not required to put a sign up at the door indicating your religious
> > affiliation - it's optional, of course, kosher businesses seem to
> > find it a useful marketing ploy to advertise themselves as such, but
> > nobody makes them and you just sort of assume that the proprietors
> > are Jewsh and you can stay away if you're boycotting Jewish
> > businesses at the moment.

>
> My maternal grandmother claimed that all the pork stores in NYC were
> Jewish-owned. I doubt that; but some were.


I know a Jewish person who's family who owned a Taylor Pork Roll store
at the Jersey Shore for many decades.
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Michel Boucher wrote:

> "Dan Goodman" > wrote in
>
> > Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine
> > advocated a boycott against maple syrup to send the US a message.

>
> Huh? Quibec is the largest producer of maple syrup...that is another
> stupid boycott.


I believe that this was mentioned in the comments.

> "The province of Quebec in Canada is by far the world's largest
> producer of maple syrup, producing 15,600,000 litres in 2001 - about
> four times as much as all U.S. production combined."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup


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"Dan Goodman" > wrote in
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>> > Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine
>> > advocated a boycott against maple syrup to send the US a
>> > message.

>>
>> Huh? Quibec is the largest producer of maple syrup...that is
>> another stupid boycott.

>
> I believe that this was mentioned in the comments.


And well it should be. Still a stupid boycott :-)

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"Dan Goodman" > wrote in
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>> > Last year (if I remember right), someone on fr.rec.cuisine
>> > advocated a boycott against maple syrup to send the US a
>> > message.

>>
>> Huh? Quibec is the largest producer of maple syrup...that is
>> another stupid boycott.

>
> I believe that this was mentioned in the comments.


I've found the stuff and it was in fact proposed as a boycott of Anglo-
USAian products. By a cruel twist of fate, Canada is still part of the
Commonwealth and has the Queen as the head of state.

However, that being said, we don't care if we don't export maple syrup.
We certainly don't export our best stuff, but the thicker, sweeter glop
foreigns seem to favour for some reason which is still unfathomable to
us. This even holds for Western Canada where is it nigh impossible to
find clear maple syrup.

No accounting for taste, eh?

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Michel Boucher > wrote in
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>
> However, that being said, we don't care if we don't export maple syrup.
> We certainly don't export our best stuff, but the thicker, sweeter glop
> foreigns seem to favour for some reason which is still unfathomable to
> us.


The maple syrup I buy isn't very thick, and I love it. It's Canadian - Camp
brand (http://www.citadelle-camp.com/a_frame.html) says on the label packed
in Canada by the Maple Producers (Co-op). Also has a certified pure Maple
Mark on the label.

It's the only pure maple syrup I've ever seen for sale at the supermarket I
use. It's not something I always have on hand though, as it costs about
$7.50 Australian (about US$5.5, Canadian$6.35) for a 250ml bottle and it
doesn't last very long! I will buy it more often in winter, though, as I
really like it on porridge instead of brown sugar.

There are various maple flavoured syrups available which are a lot cheaper,
but aren't what I want. A new brand of maple syrup appeared on the shelf a
while back which was cheaper ($5 something), and looked promising as it was
Canadian - Steeves brand. However,I looked at the label and as well as
maple syrup it also contained flavouring and water and something else! So
I'm sticking to the Camp, just trying not to buy it too often <g>.



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In article >, Rhonda Anderson > wrote:
>Michel Boucher > wrote in
1:
>
>> However, that being said, we don't care if we don't export maple syrup.
>> We certainly don't export our best stuff, but the thicker, sweeter glop
>> foreigns seem to favour for some reason which is still unfathomable to
>> us.

>
>The maple syrup I buy isn't very thick, and I love it. It's Canadian - Camp
>brand (http://www.citadelle-camp.com/a_frame.html) says on the label packed
>in Canada by the Maple Producers (Co-op). Also has a certified pure Maple
>Mark on the label.


Ah! Another bigpond denizen I see. :-)

I was introduced to Camp maple syrup late last year by a local
gourmand. Until then I had thought maple syrup was over-rated crap.

Now I just need someone to tell me where to get edible strawberries.
(The cream's no problem. :-)

>It's the only pure maple syrup I've ever seen for sale at the supermarket I
>use. It's not something I always have on hand though, as it costs about
>$7.50 Australian (about US$5.5, Canadian$6.35) for a 250ml bottle and it
>doesn't last very long! I will buy it more often in winter, though, as I
>really like it on porridge instead of brown sugar.
>
>There are various maple flavoured syrups available which are a lot cheaper,
>but aren't what I want. A new brand of maple syrup appeared on the shelf a
>while back which was cheaper ($5 something), and looked promising as it was
>Canadian - Steeves brand. However,I looked at the label and as well as
>maple syrup it also contained flavouring and water and something else! So
>I'm sticking to the Camp, just trying not to buy it too often <g>.


Cheers, Phred.

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(Phred) wrote in
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> In article >, Rhonda
> Anderson > wrote:
>>
>>The maple syrup I buy isn't very thick, and I love it. It's Canadian -
>>Camp brand (
http://www.citadelle-camp.com/a_frame.html) says on the
>>label packed in Canada by the Maple Producers (Co-op). Also has a
>>certified pure Maple Mark on the label.

>
> Ah! Another bigpond denizen I see. :-)


I mustn't have been posting much lately if this is the first time you've
noticed me! I've been around for a while <g>
>
> I was introduced to Camp maple syrup late last year by a local
> gourmand. Until then I had thought maple syrup was over-rated crap.


I'm sure we used to get Camp brand when I was a kid. It was pretty much
bought solely to have with waffles and icecream. Seemed to be some kind
of rule in my house - if you had waffles (the sort you bought frozen and
stuck in the toaster) and icecream, you had to have maple syrup.
>
> Now I just need someone to tell me where to get edible strawberries.
> (The cream's no problem. :-)
>


I bought some really nice strawberries at Penrith Woolies last year -
quite large, but not white and floury like some big strawberries are.
They were very flavoursome. From Qld, I think. Haven't bought any
strawberries for a while. Perhaps you should try growing your own! I
always mean to plant some, but haven't got around to it yet. Have to work
out the best spot for them.

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>> jake wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why woudl you want to stay away form people because of their nationality?

>>
>>
>>
>> Because certain nationalities can have have traits that are fairly
>> obnoxious, e.g. Russians (rude), Koreans (cheap), Albanians (thieving),
>> etc...
>>

>
> I don't know how not to interpret that as racism


What nationality is Greg? His post seems to suggest that stupidity is a
trait of that group.


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In article >, Rhonda Anderson > wrote:
(Phred) wrote in
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>> In article >, Rhonda
>> Anderson > wrote:
>>>
>>>The maple syrup I buy isn't very thick, and I love it. It's Canadian -
>>>Camp brand (http://www.citadelle-camp.com/a_frame.html) says on the
>>>label packed in Canada by the Maple Producers (Co-op). Also has a
>>>certified pure Maple Mark on the label.

>>
>> Ah! Another bigpond denizen I see. :-)

>
>I mustn't have been posting much lately if this is the first time you've
>noticed me! I've been around for a while <g>


I just happened to be gazing mindlessly at the screen and noticed the
"bigpond.com" in your e-mail address in the displayed "From:" field.
I think I have noticed the name before. :-)

[Snipped more Camp stuff...]

>> Now I just need someone to tell me where to get edible strawberries.
>> (The cream's no problem. :-)

>
>I bought some really nice strawberries at Penrith Woolies last year -
>quite large, but not white and floury like some big strawberries are.
>They were very flavoursome. From Qld, I think. Haven't bought any
>strawberries for a while. Perhaps you should try growing your own! I
>always mean to plant some, but haven't got around to it yet. Have to work
>out the best spot for them.


I'm just in the process of starting my second ever vegie garden (the
first was something of a notable failure 20 years ago but I don't
think strawberries would like the climate here (much less the "soil").
They do grow them commercially less than 20 miles away -- but it's a
thousand feet higher, on a decent basaltic clay loam, and with about
50% more rainfall than our annual 40" (and *much* better distributed).

Our local Coles had some nice ones very briefly last year -- caused
quite a stampede from the office after someone brought in a sample for
smoko and handed them around. :-) However, my long-term impression of
modern strawberries is that they're *grossly* over-rated in general.

Cheers, Phred.

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