Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> The SO just came home from shopping. He dragged home this pretty cool
> bucket but it's a tamale kit. I *think* the name is 'melissa's' but
> not sure as the I is actually some kind of chile. Anyway there are 2
> steamer baskets with all stuff, corn husks etc. You do have to add
> your own fresh ingredients, naturally. I asked him why he bought it
> since he hates tamales. The answer was "I liked the bucket and
> thought you would make a planter out of it." LOLOL... I said "Planter
> my ass, you're getting tamales."
>
> Michael

LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy hates
tamales... she doesn't understand them. But tamales are good! YAY
Steven!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy hates
> tamales... she doesn't understand them. But tamales are good! YAY
> Steven!

that's right! you almost ordered the pork tamales from that mexican
restaraunt called, La Plata Grande...hehe...(The big plate) or do you
eat the chips and salsa drink your free water and disappear back into
the jungle...

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "jmcquown" > hitched up their panties and
> posted :
>
>> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>> The SO just came home from shopping. He dragged home this pretty
>>> cool bucket but it's a tamale kit. I *think* the name is
>>> 'melissa's' but not sure as the I is actually some kind of chile.
>>> Anyway there are 2 steamer baskets with all stuff, corn husks etc.
>>> You do have to add
>>> your own fresh ingredients, naturally. I asked him why he bought it
>>> since he hates tamales. The answer was "I liked the bucket and
>>> thought you would make a planter out of it." LOLOL... I said
>>> "Planter my ass, you're getting tamales."
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy
>> hates tamales... she doesn't understand them. But tamales are good!
>> YAY Steven!
>>
>> Jill
>
> Besides, I've got planters all over the place. He's never liked
> tamales. Don't know why. He likes enchiladas though so he's saved
> This kit looks kinda cheapo but I'll give it a shot next week.
>
> Michael

I'm thinking I'll make chicken enchiladas tomorrow. I have to get some
ingredients to prepare the sauce but I've got the chicken and I've got
several cheeses and I've got the tortillas

Hey, do you have any idea where Queenie Park is in STL? John has asked me
to check into cheap lodgings March 30-April 3rd. He'll be doing an indoor
art show there. I might actually get up the nerve to drive 300 miles;
regardless of that, he will want an inexpensive place to stay.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote

> LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy hates
> tamales... she doesn't understand them.

I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
them, at all. Perhaps someone could recommend a good kind
I could order online.

nancy

On 2006-03-01, Nancy Young > wrote:

> I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
> them, at all.

How could you not "get them" if you've never had one?

Anyway, the bad thing about tamales is the fact that traditional
tamales are made with manteca, which is typically hydrogenated lard.
The masa (dough) used for tamales is about 40% manteca and 60% masa,
so the finished dough is very fattening. Also, traditionally, tamales
are usually about 2/3rds dough and 1/3filling. This means one must
eat a bunch of them to get an adequate meat fix. The good thing about
tamales, if you make them yourself, *YOU* can make them however you
like. Reduce the fat, make the tamales with 2/3rds meat and 1/3 masa,
etc. Also, much of the fat in the masa is steamed out during cooking.

I won't eat the skimpy filled tamales, but occasionally I come across
a good one with a lots of meat. When you find those, tamales are
awesome.

nb

"notbob" > wrote

> On 2006-03-01, Nancy Young > wrote:
>
>> I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
>> them, at all.
>
> How could you not "get them" if you've never had one?

I've seen them made on tv. Food is made into a paste of some
sort, then spread, inexplicably and painstakingly, onto a corn
leaf. This is tied up in a bundle. Then the paste stuff is cooked.
In the tied up corn leaf.

(laugh) Am I wrong?

> I won't eat the skimpy filled tamales, but occasionally I come across
> a good one with a lots of meat. When you find those, tamales are
> awesome.

I would order them if I knew of a good source, so I can change
my mind, thus 'getting' tamales.

nancy

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "jmcquown" > hitched up their panties and
> posted :
>
>> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>> "jmcquown" > hitched up their panties and
>>> posted :
>>>
>>>> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
>>>>> The SO just came home from shopping. He dragged home this pretty
>>>>> cool bucket but it's a tamale kit. I *think* the name is
>>>>> 'melissa's' but not sure as the I is actually some kind of chile.
>>>>> Anyway there are 2 steamer baskets with all stuff, corn husks etc.
>>>>> You do have to add
>>>>> your own fresh ingredients, naturally. I asked him why he bought
>>>>> it since he hates tamales. The answer was "I liked the bucket and
>>>>> thought you would make a planter out of it." LOLOL... I said
>>>>> "Planter my ass, you're getting tamales."
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy
>>>> hates tamales... she doesn't understand them. But tamales are
>>>> good! YAY Steven!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Besides, I've got planters all over the place. He's never liked
>>> tamales. Don't know why. He likes enchiladas though so he's saved
>>> This kit looks kinda cheapo but I'll give it a shot next week.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> I'm thinking I'll make chicken enchiladas tomorrow. I have to get
>> some ingredients to prepare the sauce but I've got the chicken and
>> I've got several cheeses and I've got the tortillas
>>
>> Hey, do you have any idea where Queenie Park is in STL?
>
> Why yes I do as a matter of fact. The dog museum is there and I
> horseback ride with a friend there once in a blue moon. Want me to
> research some hotels and email them to you?
>
> Michael
>
That would be great, thanks! Keep in mind, el cheapo

Jill

Nancy Young wrote:
> "notbob" > wrote
>
>> On 2006-03-01, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
>>> them, at all.
>>
>> How could you not "get them" if you've never had one?
>
> I've seen them made on tv. Food is made into a paste of some
> sort, then spread, inexplicably and painstakingly, onto a corn
> leaf. This is tied up in a bundle. Then the paste stuff is cooked.
> In the tied up corn leaf.
>
> (laugh) Am I wrong?
>
The meat - pork, beef or chicken - is well seasoned, cooked in water,
cooled, then shredded. The "dough" is masa (very finely ground cornmeal)
which traditionally *is* mixed with lard although I used vegetable
shortening and some of the broth from the meat until it reaches a spreadable
consistency. You spread the masa dough on a soaked corn husk then add the
cooked meat in the middle. Roll up the tamale in the corn husk and either
tie it with a strip of corn husk or twist one of the ends. Then you steam
them, stacked standing upright, usually over the leftover broth from the
meat, until the masa dough easily pulls away from the corn husk when tested.
The broth is then usually "recycled" to make a sauce for the tamales.

>> I won't eat the skimpy filled tamales, but occasionally I come across
>> a good one with a lots of meat. When you find those, tamales are
>> awesome.
>
There is a place in Memphis called El Mezcal that does their tamales a
little differently. I think they are actually Peruvian-style, but don't
quote me on that The dough is more like traditional flour rather than
yellow masa. They are "fluffy", for lack of a better word. At any rate,
the tamales are big and the shredded pork filling is quite ample. They
serve them already removed from the corn husks. I don't get over to that
part of town very often but now you've set off a craving!

Jill

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> notbob > hitched up their panties and posted
> :
>
>> On 2006-03-01, Nancy Young > wrote:
>>
>>> I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
>>> them, at all.
>>
>> How could you not "get them" if you've never had one?
>>
>> Anyway, the bad thing about tamales is the fact that traditional
>> tamales are made with manteca, which is typically hydrogenated lard.
>> The masa (dough) used for tamales is about 40% manteca and 60% masa,
>> so the finished dough is very fattening. Also, traditionally,
>> tamales are usually about 2/3rds dough and 1/3filling. This means
>> one must eat a bunch of them to get an adequate meat fix. The good
>> thing about tamales, if you make them yourself, *YOU* can make them
>> however you like. Reduce the fat, make the tamales with 2/3rds meat
>> and 1/3 masa, etc. Also, much of the fat in the masa is steamed out
>> during cooking.
>>
>> I won't eat the skimpy filled tamales, but occasionally I come across
>> a good one with a lots of meat. When you find those, tamales are
>> awesome.
>>
>> nb
>
> I've never made tamales but I'm going to. I've got to look up how to
> make the sauce for them though.
>
> Michael

Use the broth from the... wait, I have no idea what this "kit" involves.
When I made them I used the broth from cooking the meat and after making the
masa dough (using some of the broth) I used the broth to thicken and make a
nicely spiced sauce for the tamales.

Jill

In article >,
"Nancy Young" > wrote:

> "jmcquown" > wrote
>
> > LOL! That's a good one! How can anyone hate tamales? Okay, Nancy hates
> > tamales... she doesn't understand them.
>
> I don't hate them, I've never had them. No, I don't 'get'
> them, at all. Perhaps someone could recommend a good kind
> I could order online.


Sorry, no. Find a Mexican restaurant and order them there.

--
Dan Abel

Petaluma, California, USA