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The story below has been all over the European and American press in the
past week or so. Here is one version. The (French) recipe for the soup referred to in the story can be found at <http://www.association-sdf.com/fichiers/fiche_pratique_soupe.pdf>. Here it is, carelessly translated on the fly. Pig soup Cooking time 3 hours 2 kg smoked bacon 1 pig ear 2 pig trotters 2 pig tails 1 kg onions 2 kg carrots 2 kg turnips 2 kg potatoes 1 kg leeks 1 kg celery stalks coarse salt The vegetables are peeled, washed and cut into small pieces. The meat is also cut in small cubes. The soup should be possible to eat without having to use a knife. Put everything into water to cook, add coarse salt. One shouldn't take too much water: it is called pig "soup", but the final result is rather less liquid than a classical soup. One should count on 3 hours of cooking, checking that the vegetables and the meat are cooked through. Victor From: <http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1907672,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1124-rdf> Charity Slammed for Serving Discriminatory Soup In Paris, a charity group linked to the far right is under fire for serving pork soup to the homeless. Critics say the government should ban the program as the choice of food discriminates against Muslims and Jews. Every Thursday night a handful of volunteers equipped with a trunk of hot food meet up in a poor district of Paris to feed the needy. They kick off with red wine served from a cask on the roof of a car, and an appetizer of dried sausage. That is followed with bowls of steaming hot soup, traditionally known as a "repas gaulois" or Gallic dinner, cheese and dessert. Anne Lucien-Brun, a retiree, has been volunteering with the group, Solidarity for the French (SDF) for the past year. "I am here to serve soup to the homeless, to the people who are let down by our society, and to those who accept eating soup with pork in it," she said. Although SDF has links to a fringe far-right political group, Lucien-Brun says that rather than being politically motivated, the work she does is about defending French traditions. "We are in France, in Europe. We cook with pork, we have soup with pork and we don't see why our country should be banned from doing something that is our tradition," Lucien-Brun said. The government doesn't actually prohibit pork dinners, but some city officials would like to see that happen. Paris City Hall is managed by a coalition of Socialists and Greens who say the meals are discriminatory and xenophobic because they're designed to exclude observant Muslims who don't eat pork. Although the police say there's no law against distributing soup to the homeless, they shut down weekly dinners twice in December on the grounds that they were creating a public disturbance. The volunteers say such action amounts to police harassment and prevents them from providing a much-needed service to anyone who wants to take advantage of it. Kalif Kamaté, a homeless Muslim from Mali says he prefers not to eat pork, but that these days he can't afford to be choosy. Similar pork dinners have been organized in Nice, Nantes and Strasbourg, where they were also banned for a time last month. Although they have since resumed, an anti-racism group is working to outlaw the initiative nationwide. Mouloud Aounit is President of the "Movement Against Racism and for Friendship Between People." He says the pork soup kitchens go against the very concept of solidarity. "These extremist groups are using the soup kitchen to spread their message of hate and contempt towards Muslims. We just can't accept this form of solidarity based on discrimination." But the SDF volunteers insist that they do not discriminate, and that anyone can eat their soup. Kamaté confirms that to be true. "At first I was told it was a private party. Then I asked the woman in charge and she allowed me to eat and drink with the others. It really helped me out because I'm homeless too and I face the same problems as the others." One such other person is Michel Bewulf, a 37-year-old who has been living on the streets for two years, ever since he got divorced and lost his job. He enjoys the Thursday night four-course spread. "I like to come here because it's friendly. It's also very secure," he said. "People offer me jackets, trousers, socks, sometimes money and food." Bewulf says other soup kitchens, where there are hundreds of people and not enough food, can be dangerous, and adds that some church groups proselytize while they serve. By contrast, he says the volunteers at the Gallic dinners don't bring up their political ideas and few of those who show up for their weekly serving of pork soup seem to care about the controversy it has stirred. Ultimately they are just happy to be fed and to share a meal in a pleasant atmosphere, where they don't have to fight for their food or be on their guard. Helen Seeney (tkw) |
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![]() Victor Sack wrote: > The story below has been all over the European and American press in the > past week or so. Here is one version. The (French) recipe for the soup > referred to in the story can be found at > <http://www.association-sdf.com/fichiers/fiche_pratique_soupe.pdf>. Here > it is, carelessly translated on the fly. > > Pig soup > Cooking time 3 hours > > 2 kg smoked bacon > 1 pig ear > 2 pig trotters > 2 pig tails > 1 kg onions > 2 kg carrots > 2 kg turnips > 2 kg potatoes > 1 kg leeks > 1 kg celery stalks > coarse salt > > The vegetables are peeled, washed and cut into small pieces. The meat is > also cut in small cubes. The soup should be possible to eat without > having to use a knife. Put everything into water to cook, add coarse > salt. One shouldn't take too much water: it is called pig "soup", but > the final result is rather less liquid than a classical soup. One should > count on 3 hours of cooking, checking that the vegetables and the meat > are cooked through. > > Victor > Bubba Vic, I didn't read about this in the local papers, but what a cruel person it must have been, who dreamed this up. It is worthy of the beasts in charge of feeding Jews in the Concentration Camps of Hitler Germany. |
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Margaret Suran > wrote:
> Bubba Vic, I didn't read about this in the local papers, but what a > cruel person it must have been, who dreamed this up. It is worthy of > the beasts in charge of feeding Jews in the Concentration Camps of > Hitler Germany. Soup Nazis! Really, don't be so nasty, Resi! They call it "soupe identitaire" which, considering the major ingredient, identifies them with swine, presumably a fair comparison. That is probably the worst thing one can say about them, however. No need to equate ordinary swine with mass murderers. What they are doing is offering pork soup to all comers, every Thursday in winter. Quelle horreur! They are not locking anyone up and pouring that soup down their throats. They are just a small charity, not a monopoly. Don't like pork? Hie thee elsewhere. No soup for you! Why not pork, anyway? Surely not because it is not kosher or halal? What if they were serving beef? It certainly would be just as non-kosher. One either keeps kosher or not. Really, not even a vegetarian meal would do if it is not kosher. And what about poor starving Hindus? They would be just as offended by beef soup. Picture those multitudes of starving, homeless orthodox Jews roaming the streets of Paris, Strasbourg and Nice in search of the perfectly kosher repast served by the miraculously competent goyim. Oh, and a couple of Muslims joining them, too. And do tell me what is so wrong in serving pork to a starving Jew or Muslim? The principle of pikuach nefesh (saving life) takes precedence over laws of kashrut in Judaism and there is a very similar principle in Islam, too. If one is starving, one is allowed to eat anything if there is no choice. Let them eat Danish pastries! And if you think that New York soup kitchens don't serve pork, you are very much mistaken. See, for example, <http://www.citylimits.org/content/articles/articleView.cfm?articlenumber=421> <quote> The focal point of New York hunger relief is the 82,000-square-foot warehouse at Hunts Point Cooperative Market run by Food for Survival. For 10 cents a pound the providers get goods corporate America couldn't sell--failed test-marketed products, mislabeled packages, funny-colored batches of fruit juice--and USDA surplus, which has moved on from Reagan-era cheese to a surprisingly healthy variety of basics. But surplus is surplus: 15 truckloads of Iowa pork were February's windfall. </quote> Damn those racist Iowans! Bubba |
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