"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>> "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This advisory is not a prognostication but the report of an
> >>>>> appointed watchman. One who has no special powers...
> >>>>
> >>>> "appointed," indeed.
> >>>
> >>> Yes.
>
> But no way to prove that lofty "appointment." I see.

Being a watchman is not a lofty appointment.

> We're supposed to
> believe you just because you said it.

No. The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to
convince. Again, the latter purpose has been set aside for HIS four
horsemen.

> I must chortle about that...

Your choice.

> >> Got a nice certificate to show that?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> Maybe a name tag with that information on it?
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> This is no more credible than your wild-eyed nonsense about nuclear
> >> devastation causing tectonic plates to move.
> >
> > It remains possible.
>
> How stupid a thing to say. It remains possible in the same way that if
> you flap your arms fast enough you can fly.

....only with the LORD's help.

> In some overstretched
> theory, it might be possible, but in anything approaching the rational
> and empirical laws of physics of the real universe, it is so remote as
> to be functionally impossible.

Not if the LORD wills it.

> You were given the numbers and, typically, choose to ignore the facts.

It remains my choice to ignore that which is untruthful.

> Speaks badly to your continuing lie that you choose to write truthfully.

Actually, my choice to ignore that which is untruthful is consistent
with my choice to continue to write truthfully.

> >> "Constantly quoting oneself and expecting different results this
> >> time is a sure sign of madness."
> >
> > "You will be judged by your own measure."
>
> I welcome it.

That day will come upon you "like a thief in the night."

> But my comment above still stands.

Your comments are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> >>>> Self-appointed...
> >>>
> >>> No.
> >>
> >> Yet, no indication that anyone or anything has offered such an
> >> "appointment."
> >
> > The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to convince.
> > The latter purpose resides with HIS four horsemen.
>
> So you say.

It remains as written.

> Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> sensible to simply disbelieve you.

.... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
people achieve lasting weight loss.

> >>> Those who are reborn of water and the Holy Spirit are divinely
> >>> appointed watchpersons in this world.
> >>
> >> Nice. Where in the bible does it say that?
> >
> > This knowledge is given to those who have chosen to walk with Christ.
>
> Um, passed on to you by those voices you hear?

No.

> > You are welcome to join US and receive this knowledge for yourself
> > (John 3:8).
>
> Ah, so nowhere.

Just as the LORD guides the wind in a seemingly random fashion, so HE
guides those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit.

However, despite appearances, nothing is random (Proverbs 16:33).

> So you're adding to the words and ideas in the bible.

No. The LORD helps those who walk with HIM understand HIS Word.

> Hmmmph. Quite the scholar... bwah...

The LORD is more than a scholar. HE is the source of all knowledge and
wisdom.

> I actually knew that it wasn't in there anywhere.

Without the LORD, what you know is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

> Just wanted to see how
> you'd try to slime your way out of answering it. You never disappoint
> when the expectation of your actions shade toward the slippery and phony.

It remains my choice to continue writing truthfully.

> That passage has nothing to do with "watchpersons" - rather the
> opposite.

That is not what I discern.

> As though those reborn are footloose. The word "wind" can be
> translated as either "spirit" or "wind."

Correct.

> John 3:8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you
> do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone
> who is born of the Spirit.
>
> Funny how both the word and the concept of "watchperson" are utterly
> absent from that passage.

An "ill wind" is commonly associated with a herald of catastrophe.

> >> And those who believe they've been divinely appointed with no
> >> evidence for it are nuts.
> >
> > Those who are divinely appointed are the evidence and the testimony.
>
> And it's impossible to distinguish between "those who are divinely
> appointed," or say so, and those who are nuts.

Not for those with discerning hearts.

> Just as much proof for
> both and each of them. All talk, no evidence.
>
> Credentials by bluster.

Again, the LORD's purpose for me here is to inform and not to convince
as is the purpose of HIS four horsemen.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> H.E. Eickleberry, Jr. wrote:
>>>> "Dazed and confused" > wrote in message
>>>> oups.com...
>>>>
>>>> [snip]

>
>
Total frigging psycho

And a "big shot" MD/PhD with NO hospital affiliation.

Fraud.

Al wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." wrote:
> >> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
> >> oups.com...
> >>> H.E. Eickleberry, Jr. wrote:
> >>>> "Dazed and confused" > wrote in message
> >>>> oups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>> [snip]
>
> >
> Total frigging psycho
>
> And a "big shot" MD/PhD with NO hospital affiliation.
>
> Fraud.

Sorry my choice to be openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
forgive all my iniquities.

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"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> >>Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> >>posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> >>sensible to simply disbelieve you.
> >
> > .... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
> > people achieve lasting weight loss.
>
> Exactly. And for the same reasons.
>
> You say it works and you claim to be a scientist. And you have forgotten
> how science is done. And you have become so caught up in your
> egotistical raving and believe yourself so totally, that you can't
> conceive why your empty words don't bring you supporters or belief from
> others.
>
> You have made wild claims about your 2 pound diet. Absolutes. Staggering
> (fake, extrapolated, irrelevant) numbers. And you haven't supported any
> of it with any testable facts. The simple assertion that *nobody* has
> failed at it more suggests that *nobody is using it* than that it's so
> *perfect*. And to claim that you got the 2-pounds of food per day idea
> from an IMAX film about Everest climbers when the very words of Everest
> climbers have been given to you in disagreement to that idea makes it
> outright unbelievable.
>
> When you assert that 2 pounds of food is good for weight loss for
> *everyone* and, further, that it's the *perfect amount of food* for
> *everyone* under *all* circumstances, simple reason says some parts of
> that will not stand scrutiny. If some is suspect, all must be
> demonstrated to be true. You haven't done anything to show its efficacy
> beyond offering inflated and unbelievable claims. You make the claims,
> so the burden of proof is on you. Particularly when you throw in all
> that bunkum and stretched folly from the bible as divine endorsement.
> Your insistence that the Hebrew marchers ate 2 pounds of manna a day and
> that's all they ate when the bible contradicts that shows that you're
> more interested in being "right" than correct. Your insistence that an
> omer is a weight measure when not one source supports that - not a
> single one - and all that explain it say it's a volume measure. Once
> again, you're trying to force definitions to fit your ideas rather than
> the other, proper, way to use them.
>
> So I don't believe that your 2 pound diet is good for permanent weight
> loss any more than I believe any other diet is. In order for it to be
> efficacious, it must be adhered to. Just like every other diet. Humans
> haven't shown themselves to be good at that. So your diet is finally no
> more nor less and a calorie-restricted eating plan, just as likely to
> fail as all others. And all your protestation about it not being a diet
> is just as much nonsense. All directed eating regimens are diets, by
> definition, no matter how much you want the words to mean something
> else. If you would concentrate on the actual program and forget all that
> extra drivel, it might invite serious looks. But as long as you insist
> on surrounding it with all that claptrap, it comes across as just
> another to-good-to-be-true bit of inflated, self-serving pomposity.
>
> That you would suggest that 2 pounds of food is good for *everyone* at
> *all times* no matter *age, size, activity level* is nutritional
> nonsense. Just as all humans differ slightly from each other, we all
> have differing needs. Feed an Amish farmer 2 pound of food a day and see
> him be unable to perform his daily tasks. A professional football team.
> A 90-pound quadriplegic. A teen-aged cheerleader. An 87-year-old,
> sedentary woman.
>
> Old news. All of it. And all of it unexplained, untested, unbelievable.
>
> Now you explain why anyone should accept your story.
>
> Pastorio

Sorry the truth contained within the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so
terribly. Please forgive all my iniquities.

In the interim, you remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in
Jesus' most precious and holy name.

May GOD continue to touch your life in the ways HE has to draw you
closer to HIM.

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Andrew
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Bob (this one) wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> >>>>posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> >>>>sensible to simply disbelieve you.
> >>>
> >>>.... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
> >>>people achieve lasting weight loss.
> >>
> >>Exactly. And for the same reasons.
> >>
> >>You say it works and you claim to be a scientist. And you have forgotten
> >>how science is done. And you have become so caught up in your
> >>egotistical raving and believe yourself so totally, that you can't
> >>conceive why your empty words don't bring you supporters or belief from
> >>others.
> >>
> >>You have made wild claims about your 2 pound diet. Absolutes. Staggering
> >>(fake, extrapolated, irrelevant) numbers. And you haven't supported any
> >>of it with any testable facts. The simple assertion that *nobody* has
> >>failed at it more suggests that *nobody is using it* than that it's so
> >>*perfect*. And to claim that you got the 2-pounds of food per day idea
> >>from an IMAX film about Everest climbers when the very words of Everest
> >>climbers have been given to you in disagreement to that idea makes it
> >>outright unbelievable.
> >>
> >>When you assert that 2 pounds of food is good for weight loss for
> >>*everyone* and, further, that it's the *perfect amount of food* for
> >>*everyone* under *all* circumstances, simple reason says some parts of
> >>that will not stand scrutiny. If some is suspect, all must be
> >>demonstrated to be true. You haven't done anything to show its efficacy
> >>beyond offering inflated and unbelievable claims. You make the claims,
> >>so the burden of proof is on you. Particularly when you throw in all
> >>that bunkum and stretched folly from the bible as divine endorsement.
> >>Your insistence that the Hebrew marchers ate 2 pounds of manna a day and
> >>that's all they ate when the bible contradicts that shows that you're
> >>more interested in being "right" than correct. Your insistence that an
> >>omer is a weight measure when not one source supports that - not a
> >>single one - and all that explain it say it's a volume measure. Once
> >>again, you're trying to force definitions to fit your ideas rather than
> >>the other, proper, way to use them.
> >>
> >>So I don't believe that your 2 pound diet is good for permanent weight
> >>loss any more than I believe any other diet is. In order for it to be
> >>efficacious, it must be adhered to. Just like every other diet. Humans
> >>haven't shown themselves to be good at that. So your diet is finally no
> >>more nor less and a calorie-restricted eating plan, just as likely to
> >>fail as all others. And all your protestation about it not being a diet
> >>is just as much nonsense. All directed eating regimens are diets, by
> >>definition, no matter how much you want the words to mean something
> >>else. If you would concentrate on the actual program and forget all that
> >>extra drivel, it might invite serious looks. But as long as you insist
> >>on surrounding it with all that claptrap, it comes across as just
> >>another to-good-to-be-true bit of inflated, self-serving pomposity.
> >>
> >>That you would suggest that 2 pounds of food is good for *everyone* at
> >>*all times* no matter *age, size, activity level* is nutritional
> >>nonsense. Just as all humans differ slightly from each other, we all
> >>have differing needs. Feed an Amish farmer 2 pound of food a day and see
> >>him be unable to perform his daily tasks. A professional football team.
> >>A 90-pound quadriplegic. A teen-aged cheerleader. An 87-year-old,
> >>sedentary woman.
> >>
> >>Old news. All of it. And all of it unexplained, untested, unbelievable.
> >>
> >>Now you explain why anyone should accept your story.
> >>
> >>Pastorio
> >
> > Sorry the truth contained within the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so
> > terribly.
>
> <LOL>

Without the LORD, there can be only despair.

For this you will remain in my prayers, dear Bob whom I love, in Jesus'
most precious and holy name.

May GOD continue to draw you closer to HIM.

Amen.

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Andrew
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Bob (this one) wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Bob (this one) wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> >>>>>>posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> >>>>>>sensible to simply disbelieve you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>.... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
> >>>>>people achieve lasting weight loss.
> >>>>
> >>>>Exactly. And for the same reasons.
> >>>>
> >>>>You say it works and you claim to be a scientist. And you have forgotten
> >>>>how science is done. And you have become so caught up in your
> >>>>egotistical raving and believe yourself so totally, that you can't
> >>>>conceive why your empty words don't bring you supporters or belief from
> >>>>others.
> >>>>
> >>>>You have made wild claims about your 2 pound diet. Absolutes. Staggering
> >>>>(fake, extrapolated, irrelevant) numbers. And you haven't supported any
> >>>>of it with any testable facts. The simple assertion that *nobody* has
> >>>>failed at it more suggests that *nobody is using it* than that it's so
> >>>>*perfect*. And to claim that you got the 2-pounds of food per day idea
> >>>
> >>>>from an IMAX film about Everest climbers when the very words of Everest
> >>>
> >>>>climbers have been given to you in disagreement to that idea makes it
> >>>>outright unbelievable.
> >>>>
> >>>>When you assert that 2 pounds of food is good for weight loss for
> >>>>*everyone* and, further, that it's the *perfect amount of food* for
> >>>>*everyone* under *all* circumstances, simple reason says some parts of
> >>>>that will not stand scrutiny. If some is suspect, all must be
> >>>>demonstrated to be true. You haven't done anything to show its efficacy
> >>>>beyond offering inflated and unbelievable claims. You make the claims,
> >>>>so the burden of proof is on you. Particularly when you throw in all
> >>>>that bunkum and stretched folly from the bible as divine endorsement.
> >>>>Your insistence that the Hebrew marchers ate 2 pounds of manna a day and
> >>>>that's all they ate when the bible contradicts that shows that you're
> >>>>more interested in being "right" than correct. Your insistence that an
> >>>>omer is a weight measure when not one source supports that - not a
> >>>>single one - and all that explain it say it's a volume measure. Once
> >>>>again, you're trying to force definitions to fit your ideas rather than
> >>>>the other, proper, way to use them.
> >>>>
> >>>>So I don't believe that your 2 pound diet is good for permanent weight
> >>>>loss any more than I believe any other diet is. In order for it to be
> >>>>efficacious, it must be adhered to. Just like every other diet. Humans
> >>>>haven't shown themselves to be good at that. So your diet is finally no
> >>>>more nor less and a calorie-restricted eating plan, just as likely to
> >>>>fail as all others. And all your protestation about it not being a diet
> >>>>is just as much nonsense. All directed eating regimens are diets, by
> >>>>definition, no matter how much you want the words to mean something
> >>>>else. If you would concentrate on the actual program and forget all that
> >>>>extra drivel, it might invite serious looks. But as long as you insist
> >>>>on surrounding it with all that claptrap, it comes across as just
> >>>>another to-good-to-be-true bit of inflated, self-serving pomposity.
> >>>>
> >>>>That you would suggest that 2 pounds of food is good for *everyone* at
> >>>>*all times* no matter *age, size, activity level* is nutritional
> >>>>nonsense. Just as all humans differ slightly from each other, we all
> >>>>have differing needs. Feed an Amish farmer 2 pound of food a day and see
> >>>>him be unable to perform his daily tasks. A professional football team.
> >>>>A 90-pound quadriplegic. A teen-aged cheerleader. An 87-year-old,
> >>>>sedentary woman.
> >>>>
> >>>>Old news. All of it. And all of it unexplained, untested, unbelievable.
> >>>>
> >>>>Now you explain why anyone should accept your story.
> >>>>
> >>>>Pastorio
> >>>
> >>>Sorry the truth contained within the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so
> >>>terribly.
> >>
> >><LOL>
>
> I note no truth on offer, Chung. Silent on that matter. I have to laugh
> at your feeble efforts to distract from the utter vacuum of intelligence
> in your diet. You *say* there's truth, but you don't *show* it - best
> reason for that is that there's nothing to show. Since it's so well
> documented that you are a liar, there's no good reason to give your
> silly diet any credence. EOFS.
>
> Pastorio

You still remind me of that certain special sponge :-)

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"Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Bob (this one) wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>Bob (this one) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> >>>>>>>>posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> >>>>>>>>sensible to simply disbelieve you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>.... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
> >>>>>>>people achieve lasting weight loss.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Exactly. And for the same reasons.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You say it works and you claim to be a scientist. And you have forgotten
> >>>>>>how science is done. And you have become so caught up in your
> >>>>>>egotistical raving and believe yourself so totally, that you can't
> >>>>>>conceive why your empty words don't bring you supporters or belief from
> >>>>>>others.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You have made wild claims about your 2 pound diet. Absolutes. Staggering
> >>>>>>(fake, extrapolated, irrelevant) numbers. And you haven't supported any
> >>>>>>of it with any testable facts. The simple assertion that *nobody* has
> >>>>>>failed at it more suggests that *nobody is using it* than that it's so
> >>>>>>*perfect*. And to claim that you got the 2-pounds of food per day idea
> >>>>>>from an IMAX film about Everest climbers when the very words of Everest
> >>>>>>climbers have been given to you in disagreement to that idea makes it
> >>>>>>outright unbelievable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>When you assert that 2 pounds of food is good for weight loss for
> >>>>>>*everyone* and, further, that it's the *perfect amount of food* for
> >>>>>>*everyone* under *all* circumstances, simple reason says some parts of
> >>>>>>that will not stand scrutiny. If some is suspect, all must be
> >>>>>>demonstrated to be true. You haven't done anything to show its efficacy
> >>>>>>beyond offering inflated and unbelievable claims. You make the claims,
> >>>>>>so the burden of proof is on you. Particularly when you throw in all
> >>>>>>that bunkum and stretched folly from the bible as divine endorsement.
> >>>>>>Your insistence that the Hebrew marchers ate 2 pounds of manna a day and
> >>>>>>that's all they ate when the bible contradicts that shows that you're
> >>>>>>more interested in being "right" than correct. Your insistence that an
> >>>>>>omer is a weight measure when not one source supports that - not a
> >>>>>>single one - and all that explain it say it's a volume measure. Once
> >>>>>>again, you're trying to force definitions to fit your ideas rather than
> >>>>>>the other, proper, way to use them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>So I don't believe that your 2 pound diet is good for permanent weight
> >>>>>>loss any more than I believe any other diet is. In order for it to be
> >>>>>>efficacious, it must be adhered to. Just like every other diet. Humans
> >>>>>>haven't shown themselves to be good at that. So your diet is finally no
> >>>>>>more nor less and a calorie-restricted eating plan, just as likely to
> >>>>>>fail as all others. And all your protestation about it not being a diet
> >>>>>>is just as much nonsense. All directed eating regimens are diets, by
> >>>>>>definition, no matter how much you want the words to mean something
> >>>>>>else. If you would concentrate on the actual program and forget all that
> >>>>>>extra drivel, it might invite serious looks. But as long as you insist
> >>>>>>on surrounding it with all that claptrap, it comes across as just
> >>>>>>another to-good-to-be-true bit of inflated, self-serving pomposity.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>That you would suggest that 2 pounds of food is good for *everyone* at
> >>>>>>*all times* no matter *age, size, activity level* is nutritional
> >>>>>>nonsense. Just as all humans differ slightly from each other, we all
> >>>>>>have differing needs. Feed an Amish farmer 2 pound of food a day and see
> >>>>>>him be unable to perform his daily tasks. A professional football team.
> >>>>>>A 90-pound quadriplegic. A teen-aged cheerleader. An 87-year-old,
> >>>>>>sedentary woman.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Old news. All of it. And all of it unexplained, untested, unbelievable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Now you explain why anyone should accept your story.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Pastorio
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Sorry the truth contained within the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so
> >>>>>terribly.
> >>>>
> >>>><LOL>
> >>
> >>I note no truth on offer, Chung. Silent on that matter. I have to laugh
> >>at your feeble efforts to distract from the utter vacuum of intelligence
> >>in your diet. You *say* there's truth, but you don't *show* it - best
> >>reason for that is that there's nothing to show. Since it's so well
> >>documented that you are a liar, there's no good reason to give your
> >>silly diet any credence. EOFS.
> >>
> >>Pastorio
> >
> > You still remind me of that certain special sponge :-)
>
> Poor Chung reduced to talking about children's TV programs.

Have you ever flipped a "crabby patty" ?

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Andrew
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"Bob (this one)" wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > "Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >
> >>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>>Bob (this one) wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Bob (this one) wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Bob (this one)" wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Not a shred of any kind of confirmation of your relentless
> >>>>>>>>>>posturing. Given the likelihoods and given your record, it's much more
> >>>>>>>>>>sensible to simply disbelieve you.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>.... as you disbelieve the efficacy of the 2PD-OMER Approach for helping
> >>>>>>>>>people achieve lasting weight loss.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Exactly. And for the same reasons.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You say it works and you claim to be a scientist. And you have forgotten
> >>>>>>>>how science is done. And you have become so caught up in your
> >>>>>>>>egotistical raving and believe yourself so totally, that you can't
> >>>>>>>>conceive why your empty words don't bring you supporters or belief from
> >>>>>>>>others.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>You have made wild claims about your 2 pound diet. Absolutes. Staggering
> >>>>>>>>(fake, extrapolated, irrelevant) numbers. And you haven't supported any
> >>>>>>>>of it with any testable facts. The simple assertion that *nobody* has
> >>>>>>>>failed at it more suggests that *nobody is using it* than that it's so
> >>>>>>>>*perfect*. And to claim that you got the 2-pounds of food per day idea
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>from an IMAX film about Everest climbers when the very words of Everest
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>climbers have been given to you in disagreement to that idea makes it
> >>>>>>>>outright unbelievable.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>When you assert that 2 pounds of food is good for weight loss for
> >>>>>>>>*everyone* and, further, that it's the *perfect amount of food* for
> >>>>>>>>*everyone* under *all* circumstances, simple reason says some parts of
> >>>>>>>>that will not stand scrutiny. If some is suspect, all must be
> >>>>>>>>demonstrated to be true. You haven't done anything to show its efficacy
> >>>>>>>>beyond offering inflated and unbelievable claims. You make the claims,
> >>>>>>>>so the burden of proof is on you. Particularly when you throw in all
> >>>>>>>>that bunkum and stretched folly from the bible as divine endorsement.
> >>>>>>>>Your insistence that the Hebrew marchers ate 2 pounds of manna a day and
> >>>>>>>>that's all they ate when the bible contradicts that shows that you're
> >>>>>>>>more interested in being "right" than correct. Your insistence that an
> >>>>>>>>omer is a weight measure when not one source supports that - not a
> >>>>>>>>single one - and all that explain it say it's a volume measure. Once
> >>>>>>>>again, you're trying to force definitions to fit your ideas rather than
> >>>>>>>>the other, proper, way to use them.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>So I don't believe that your 2 pound diet is good for permanent weight
> >>>>>>>>loss any more than I believe any other diet is. In order for it to be
> >>>>>>>>efficacious, it must be adhered to. Just like every other diet. Humans
> >>>>>>>>haven't shown themselves to be good at that. So your diet is finally no
> >>>>>>>>more nor less and a calorie-restricted eating plan, just as likely to
> >>>>>>>>fail as all others. And all your protestation about it not being a diet
> >>>>>>>>is just as much nonsense. All directed eating regimens are diets, by
> >>>>>>>>definition, no matter how much you want the words to mean something
> >>>>>>>>else. If you would concentrate on the actual program and forget all that
> >>>>>>>>extra drivel, it might invite serious looks. But as long as you insist
> >>>>>>>>on surrounding it with all that claptrap, it comes across as just
> >>>>>>>>another to-good-to-be-true bit of inflated, self-serving pomposity.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>That you would suggest that 2 pounds of food is good for *everyone* at
> >>>>>>>>*all times* no matter *age, size, activity level* is nutritional
> >>>>>>>>nonsense. Just as all humans differ slightly from each other, we all
> >>>>>>>>have differing needs. Feed an Amish farmer 2 pound of food a day and see
> >>>>>>>>him be unable to perform his daily tasks. A professional football team.
> >>>>>>>>A 90-pound quadriplegic. A teen-aged cheerleader. An 87-year-old,
> >>>>>>>>sedentary woman.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Old news. All of it. And all of it unexplained, untested, unbelievable.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Now you explain why anyone should accept your story.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Pastorio
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Sorry the truth contained within the 2PD-OMER Approach bothers you so
> >>>>>>>terribly.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>><LOL>
> >>>>
> >>>>I note no truth on offer, Chung. Silent on that matter. I have to laugh
> >>>>at your feeble efforts to distract from the utter vacuum of intelligence
> >>>>in your diet. You *say* there's truth, but you don't *show* it - best
> >>>>reason for that is that there's nothing to show. Since it's so well
> >>>>documented that you are a liar, there's no good reason to give your
> >>>>silly diet any credence. EOFS.
> >>>>
> >>>>Pastorio
> >>>
> >>>You still remind me of that certain special sponge :-)
> >>
> >>Poor Chung reduced to talking about children's TV programs.
> >
> > Have you ever flipped a "crabby patty" ?
>
> No, but I've flipped off something in your direction.

Sorry this discourse distresses you. Please forgive all my iniquities.

> <LOL>

Sorry for causing your despair. Again, please forgive all my
iniquities.

> So you enjoy watching kiddie TV programs?

The father enjoys being with his child.

> You seem to know a lot about
> them.

The LORD is the source of all wisdom and knowledge.

> Gotta know about something, huh, Andrew...?

Simply living a life that is more abundant through LORD Jesus Christ.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory,
cooking and nutrition that interest those following this thread here
during the next on-line chat (03/16/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8

Alan Holmes wrote:

> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible for
> you to access the internet.

Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
forgive all my iniquities.

You will be in my prayers, dear Alan.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/jjl29

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Alan Holmes wrote:
>
>> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible for
>> you to access the internet.
>
> Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
> forgive all my iniquities.
>
> You will be in my prayers, dear Alan.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/jjl29
>

there is nothing worse than a person imposing his will on others,
especially if it is a religious type of will. while yes no one has to
click on this post, it is incredibly bad taste to post religious stuff
on a cooking NG...unless it has to do with Okrah "i'm too fat"
Whiner-phry, hahaha sorry i had to throw that in

so begone proselytizer!

Grizzman

PS. i know what i am talking about as i was raised a JW until i left
home when i was 15

Grizzman wrote:

> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Did you have to dredge this up? You're responding to three week
old, crossposted troll bait.

****ing asshole.

--
Reg

Do you think He will be hungry?



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Reg wrote:
> Grizzman wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>
> Did you have to dredge this up? You're responding to three week
> old, crossposted troll bait.
>
> ****ing asshole.
>
my my....that took a lot of thought. i wish i was as erudite as you

and i'm not into anal sex especially with such an educated man like you!

In article . com>, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote:
>Alan Holmes wrote:
>
>> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible for
>> you to access the internet.
>
>Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
>forgive all my iniquities.
>
>You will be in my prayers, dear Alan.
>
>Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Now that I'm getting on in years I find myself preoccupied by the
hereafter.

Too often these days, when I walk into a room I have to stop and think
"What am I here after?"

Cheers, Phred.

--
LID

Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
. com>...

> Alan Holmes wrote:
>
>> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible
>> for you to access the internet.
>
> Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please forgive
> all my iniquities.

So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
overflows?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> . com>...
>
> > Alan Holmes wrote:
> >
> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible
> >> for you to access the internet.
> >
> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please forgive
> > all my iniquities.
>
> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
> overflows?

No.

Still praying for your endangered soul, dear Mark.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/jjl29

One should never impose their will on others especially if it is a
religious will. i was raised a lousy JW and i pretty much know what i am
talking about.

BEGONE proselytizer! go back to the haughty self righteous hell you came
from

Grizzman

Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
. com>...

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>> . com>...
>>
>> > Alan Holmes wrote:
>> >
>> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible
>> >> for you to access the internet.
>> >
>> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
>> > forgive all my iniquities.
>>
>> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
>> overflows?
>
> No.

And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

> And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?
>
obviously a "canned" prayer, chicken dick cant even say his "own" prayers.


Grizzman

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> . com>...
>
> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> >> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> >> . com>...
> >>
> >> > Alan Holmes wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible
> >> >> for you to access the internet.
> >> >
> >> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
> >> > forgive all my iniquities.
> >>
> >> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
> >> overflows?
> >
> > No.
>
> And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?

Actually, I have typed "No" many times.

Don't need a macro to do it for me.

Still praying for your endangered soul, dear Mark.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/jjl29

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> > . com>...
> >
> > > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
> > >> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
> > >> . com>...
> > >>
> > >> > Alan Holmes wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it impossible
> > >> >> for you to access the internet.
> > >> >
> > >> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
> > >> > forgive all my iniquities.
> > >>
> > >> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
> > >> overflows?
> > >
> > > No.
> >
> > And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?
>
> Actually, I have typed "No" many times.

Because you can't think of anything more substantive.

Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
om>...

> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>> . com>...
>>
>> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>> >> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>> >> . com>...
>> >>
>> >> > Alan Holmes wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it
>> >> >> impossible for you to access the internet.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
>> >> > forgive all my iniquities.
>> >>
>> >> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
>> >> overflows?
>> >
>> > No.
>>
>> And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?
>
> Actually, I have typed "No" many times.

Without the Haldoperidol and the Lorazepam your posts are meaningless.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

One should never impose their will on others especially if it is a
religious will. i was raised a lousy JW and i pretty much know what i am
talking about.

BEGONE proselytizer! go back to the haughty self righteous hell you came
from

Grizzman

One should never impose their will on others especially if it is a
religious will. i was raised a lousy JW and i pretty much know what i am
talking about.

BEGONE proselytizer! go back to the haughty self righteous hell you came
from

Grizzman

On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:43:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" >
wrote:

>Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
. com>...
>
>> Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>>> . com>...
>>>
>>> > Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>>> >> Previously, on alt.atheism, Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD in episode
>>> >> . com>...
>>> >>
>>> >> > Alan Holmes wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Please ask the lord to stop your mouth working and make it
>>> >> >> impossible for you to access the internet.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sorry my being openly Christian bothers you so terribly. Please
>>> >> > forgive all my iniquities.
>>> >>
>>> >> So have macros that take over your posting when your wee little brain
>>> >> overflows?
>>> >
>>> > No.
>>>
>>> And yet this is, what, the third time you've posted this exact text?
>>
>> Actually, I have typed "No" many times.
>
>Without the Haldoperidol and the Lorazepam your posts are meaningless.

If he took those meds then he probably wouldn't be posting.

Ben