There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped, sliced,
etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;

Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of sauces,
etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could be easier.

The Entrée Vous Team

Ms P

ms_peacock wrote:
> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped, sliced,
> etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>
> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of sauces,
> etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could be easier.
>
> The Entrée Vous Team
>
> Ms P

I don't find the slicing, dicing, preparation of sauces, etc to be that
hard. I wouldn't find it "easier" to pay those prices Entree Vous is
asking, truthfully.
I'd love to organize something like this for friends though. Just a hen
party to get together and cook, at cost
Goomba

ms_peacock wrote:
> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>
> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
> sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
> be easier.
>
> The Entrée Vous Team
>
> Ms P

You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
franchisee. Great, we get it.

You can still buy pre-prepared foods at the grocery store (already cooked,
just heat it up) for much less than this place touts. And I'm not waiting
36+ hours for something to defrost only to have to cook it for another hour
or three. No way, no how. But hey, if you're into it, go ahead, knock
yourself out!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> ms_peacock wrote:
>
>>There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>
>>Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
>>be easier.
>>
>>The Entrée Vous Team
>>
>>Ms P
>
>
> You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
> franchisee. Great, we get it.
>
> You can still buy pre-prepared foods at the grocery store (already cooked,
> just heat it up) for much less than this place touts. And I'm not waiting
> 36+ hours for something to defrost only to have to cook it for another hour
> or three. No way, no how. But hey, if you're into it, go ahead, knock
> yourself out!
>
> Jill
>
>
My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going even
though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part stupid
people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that way having
someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do whatever prep
they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the recipe while
she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest. That service is
*not* cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for sale

~patches~ wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>
>>> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>>
>>> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>> sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What
>>> could
>>> be easier.
>>>
>>> The Entrée Vous Team
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>>
>> You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
>> franchisee. Great, we get it.
>>
>> You can still buy pre-prepared foods at the grocery store (already
>> cooked, just heat it up) for much less than this place touts. And
>> I'm not waiting 36+ hours for something to defrost only to have to
>> cook it for another hour or three. No way, no how. But hey, if
>> you're into it, go ahead, knock yourself out!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going
> even though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part
> stupid people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that
> way having someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do
> whatever prep they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose
> the recipe while
> she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest. That service
> is *not* cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for sale

I can sell you the Mississippi/Arkansas bridge (batteries and lightbulbs not
included).

I still don't "get" the idea. But around here, you see the occasional
Swann's truck and from what I hear they deliver frozen entrees to your door.
I have a friend who used to live right across the line over in Wynne,
Arkansas who swore by the Swann's guy dropping off frozen lasanga and such.
I still think I could do better just going to the grocery store and looking
in the aisle that sells "family dinners".

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> ms_peacock wrote:
>> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>
>> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>> sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
>> be easier.
>>
>> The Entrée Vous Team
>>
>> Ms P
>
> You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
> franchisee. Great, we get it.

Wrong. I got the answer to a question posed by another poster and to the
OPs post.


Ms P

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>
>>>There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>>sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>>
>>>Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>>sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
>>>be easier.
>>>
>>>The Entrée Vous Team
>>>
>>>Ms P
>>
>>
> My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going even
> though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part stupid
> people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that way having
> someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do whatever prep
> they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the recipe while she
> is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest. That service is *not*
> cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for sale

I just got the answer posed by someone else.

I'm pretty sure I never said a thing about using the service myself. I did,
however, say I knew several people personally that would gladly pay for just
such a service. Not a one of them are stupid.

Ms P

ms_peacock wrote:

> "~patches~" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ms_peacock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>>>sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>>>
>>>>Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>>>sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
>>>>be easier.
>>>>
>>>>The Entrée Vous Team
>>>>
>>>>Ms P
>>>
>>>
>>My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going even
>>though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part stupid
>>people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that way having
>>someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do whatever prep
>>they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the recipe while she
>>is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest. That service is *not*
>>cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for sale
>
>
> I just got the answer posed by someone else.
>
> I'm pretty sure I never said a thing about using the service myself. I did,
> however, say I knew several people personally that would gladly pay for just
> such a service. Not a one of them are stupid.
>
> Ms P
>
>
Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to go
to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food, choose
the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will package
the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven? Now if
that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you know would
gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than a rock! I
would think someone with any iota of intelligence would either take a
cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe book, check online,
buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative to teach them how to
cook. Now my FM always used to say you are judged by your
acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too good at the moment
either

Cheers

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...

> buy a recipe book,

Duh....what's a book?

~patches~ wrote:

> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to go
> to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food, choose
> the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes?

No, no. They don't even slice and dice. They have a list of entrees. You select
your entrees and they sell you the ingredients, and then you have to slice, dish,
chop, assemble and package the food and then take it home to freeze it.

When the OP asked if people would use a service <?> like that I answered "no".

> Then they will package
> the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven? Now if
> that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you know would
> gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than a rock!

IMO, the only people dumber would be those of who invest in the franchise.


> I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would either take a
> cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe book, check online,
> buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative to teach them how to
> cook.

I learned most of what I know from watching cooking shows, especially the old
Galloping Gourmet shows.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to go
>> to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food, choose
>> the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes?
>
> No, no. They don't even slice and dice. They have a list of entrees. You
> select
> your entrees and they sell you the ingredients, and then you have to
> slice, dish,
> chop, assemble and package the food and then take it home to freeze it.
>
> When the OP asked if people would use a service <?> like that I answered
> "no".
>
>> Then they will package
>> the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven? Now if
>> that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you know would
>> gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than a rock!
>
> IMO, the only people dumber would be those of who invest in the franchise.

Well...you know what P.T. Barnum said, right?

"Goomba38" > wrote in message
. ..
> ms_peacock wrote:
>> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>
>> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>> sauces,
>> etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could be easier.
>>
>> The Entrée Vous Team
>>
>> Ms P
>
> I don't find the slicing, dicing, preparation of sauces, etc to be that
> hard. I wouldn't find it "easier" to pay those prices Entree Vous is
> asking, truthfully.
> I'd love to organize something like this for friends though. Just a hen
> party to get together and cook, at cost
> Goomba

I just talked to the owner of a local business here, and they've got a
commercial kitchen that they rent out for $25 per hour, with a $100/day
maximum, so you could spend they whole day there for $100. I was thinking
that if I could get 10 people together, that's just $10 per person for the
use of the space. Five people, it's still only $20 for the space. Better
than trying to cram 5 people into my kitchen and paying hospital bills when
we start tripping over each other and throwing hot food around.

~patches~ wrote:


> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
> go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
> choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
> package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
> Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
> know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
> a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
> either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
> book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
> to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
> judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
> good at the moment either


It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?


Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

> Why is it so hard to understand that others may not enjoy
> the things you do?

A more correct question would be this: why do people -- like the
patrons of this establishment -- want to *pretend* to cook? It's like
when Mario Batali or Bobby Flay are on Letterman: sure, Dave will stir
a pot or two, and flip the clicken. But when it's done, he doesn't
claim he made dinner.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>> go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>> choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>> package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>> Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>> know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>> a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>> either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>> book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>> to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>> judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>> good at the moment either
>
>
> It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
> can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
> meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
> hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?

Some of the objection to the idea comes from the fact that some of these
services claim they'll send you home with several days' worth of raw
ingredients. Unfortunately, many of those raw ingredients will not look very
attractive (or be edible) after a few days in the refrigerator. And, some
won't freeze well at all. If you have to go back to the place for fresh
ingredients 3 times a week, where's the time savings, unless it's right on
your way home?

Default User wrote:

> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>
>>Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>>go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>>choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>>package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>>Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>>know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>>a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>>either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>>book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>>to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>>judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>>good at the moment either
>
>
>
> It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
> can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
> meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
> hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?
>
>
> Brian

First I'm not narrow-minded and second if they want to spend their hard
earned dollars on this type of thing, more power to them. They can
knock themselves out for all I care. But I will stand behind my
position that this is a stupid service meant to take money from stupid
people. They can get the *exact* same thing in other ways that have
been posted without having to take the extra time and money. Their
choice not mine. Now if I were to choose an easy way out, I would hire
someone to cook the meals in my kitchen with the ingredients I choose
with the recipes I chose. When I had homecare, that is what they did.
I'll bet you it was still cheaper than what these folks are dishing out
for using the service's kitchen. Heck you can even get a cook to come
in cheaper per serving than what this service is charging.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>> go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>> choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>> package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>> Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>> know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>> a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>> either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>> book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>> to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>> judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>> good at the moment either
>
>
> It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
> can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
> meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
> hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?
>

I'm not the one you're replying to, but my puzzlement over this business is
not that people don't cook like me, but that they'd choose this particular
alternative over things that are cheaper and possibly better/easier. If the
objection is to slicing, dicing, and cutting, grocery stores stock pre-cut
meats, veggies, and cheeses. And not everything needs to be cut, anyway. If
the objection is to making sauces or choosing spice mixes, grocery stores
have that as well. And meat departments sell pre-assembled pre-breaded
pre-seasoned meats of all sorts. And you don't have to buy in a specific
quantity.

If the goal is to have a pre-made "meal" that the customer doesn't have to
fuss with, this isn't the place to go because there are very few
veggies/side dishes -- this place is entrees only, so if someone's looking
for a "complete" dinner, this isn't it.

And if someone wants a meal that's quick and easy once they get home, this
isn't it, either. The frozen meals have to thaw 36 to 48 hours, and some of
the cooking times are over 3 hours. Some of the dishes involve more
complicated cooking, as well. It's not just "pop it in the oven for a half
hour and you're done." You may save some time by having your food cut up for
you, but you still have to follow a recipe and cook it. People who hate the
process of cooking aren't going to be very pleased.

I'm sure there are people who will try this service, and some that may find
it appealing long-term. That doesn't bother me one bit. I know a few people
who should go to a place like this rather than try to cook on their own, but
there are very few of those people. And although they should go to a place
like this, they probably wouldn't.

From a business venture perspective, I just don't get who the target market
is supposed to be, and with the limitations of what this business offers, I
don't think it has long-term potential, once the novelty wears off. Yes,
there are some people who might like it, for whatever reason. I just don't
think there are enough of those people who will go to a place like this
often enough to make the business worth the risk of investing in it. I could
be wrong. Or the business model could change so that it addresses some of
the current limitations, in which case it would be a more viable
opportunity. As it is now, though, I'm very skeptical.

Donna

~patches~ wrote:
But I will stand behind my
> position that this is a stupid service meant to take money from stupid
> people. They can get the *exact* same thing in other ways that have
> been posted without having to take the extra time and money. Their
> choice not mine.

LOL, this is the exact way I feel about "Pampered Chef" products. People
shill that stuff at work all the time and it drives me bonkers. Nothing
they sell is particularly remarkable and often over priced. I can find
just about all of it elsewhere cheaper, if not better quality.
Goomba

~patches~ wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>
>>> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>>
>>> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>> sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What could
>>> be easier.
>>>
>>> The Entrée Vous Team
>>>
>>> Ms P
>>
>>
>>
>> You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
>> franchisee. Great, we get it.
>>
>> You can still buy pre-prepared foods at the grocery store (already
>> cooked,
>> just heat it up) for much less than this place touts. And I'm not
>> waiting
>> 36+ hours for something to defrost only to have to cook it for
>> another hour
>> or three. No way, no how. But hey, if you're into it, go ahead, knock
>> yourself out!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
> My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going
> even though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part
> stupid people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that
> way having someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do
> whatever prep they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the
> recipe while she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest.
> That service is *not* cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for
> sale

I actually looked at the video on one of the web pages - not Entree
Vous, but exactly the same sort of operation.

It was weird. It wasn't cooking, it was an assembly line. Customer goes
to "work station" which is set up like a sandwich shop with all the
little containers of ingredients. Customer is wearing disposable gloves,
just like in sandwich shop. Customer packs ingredients into tinfoil
container in prescribed order, seals and moves on to another work
station holding ingredients for a different dish. Booooring!

I'm wondering about the ingredients. Where are they sourced? Does the
franchisee have to buy them wholesale and then chop them up, or do they
come from some central warehouse associated with the franchisor? Are
they fresh every day, or do they keep them until they're going a bit
funny looking at the edges?

Christine

Doug Kanter wrote:

>"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>
>>buy a recipe book,
>>
>>
>
>Duh....what's a book?
>
>
>
>
It's one of them things you swat the cockroaches with.

Christiner

Default User wrote:
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>> go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>> choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>> package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>> Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>> know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>> a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>> either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>> book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>> to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>> judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>> good at the moment either
>
>
> It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
> can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
> meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
> hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?
>
> Brian

My mother *hates* to cook She freely admits it. She did it because she had
kids and it was what a mom did. She even baked cookies. (laughing) She
wonders where I got my 'cooking gene'. Beats me, I just like good food and
I enjoy preparing it and cooking it. I just don't want to do it at some
location away from my kitchen and I sure don't want to do it with a pre-set
bunch of recipes and ingredients. I want to pick out what vegetables I use,
what spices I use; make the sauce, choose the meat, etc.

Jill

Old Mother Ashby wrote:
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> ms_peacock wrote:
>>>
>>>> There was some question if the ingredients are all diced, chopped,
>>>> sliced, etc. so I asked. Here's the answer I got;
>>>>
>>>> Yes that is correct. We do all the slicing, dicing, preparation of
>>>> sauces, etc. You just come in and assemble your entrees. What
>>>> could be easier.
>>>>
>>>> The Entrée Vous Team
>>>>
>>>> Ms P
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are obviously already a fan; ready to be a customer or another
>>> franchisee. Great, we get it.
>>>
>>> You can still buy pre-prepared foods at the grocery store (already
>>> cooked,
>>> just heat it up) for much less than this place touts. And I'm not
>>> waiting
>>> 36+ hours for something to defrost only to have to cook it for
>>> another hour
>>> or three. No way, no how. But hey, if you're into it, go ahead,
>>> knock yourself out!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>>
>> My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going
>> even though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part
>> stupid people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that
>> way having someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do
>> whatever prep they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose
>> the recipe while she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my
>> guest. That service is *not* cooking! I think I have a bridge
>> somewhere for sale
>
> I actually looked at the video on one of the web pages - not Entree
> Vous, but exactly the same sort of operation.
>
> It was weird. It wasn't cooking, it was an assembly line. Customer
> goes to "work station" which is set up like a sandwich shop with all
> the little containers of ingredients. Customer is wearing disposable
> gloves, just like in sandwich shop. Customer packs ingredients into
> tinfoil container in prescribed order, seals and moves on to another
> work
> station holding ingredients for a different dish. Booooring!
>
> I'm wondering about the ingredients. Where are they sourced? Does the
> franchisee have to buy them wholesale and then chop them up, or do
> they come from some central warehouse associated with the franchisor?
> Are
> they fresh every day, or do they keep them until they're going a bit
> funny looking at the edges?
>
> Christine

Yeah, that was one of my questions about the original post. Where do the
ingredients come from? Does the franchisee have to buy them from a specific
place? How would one know about the ingredients they are given to use to
serve? Huh, no answer. The OP disappeared when questioned in depth.
Obviously a troll or someone who is going to lose their money big time on
this crap of an idea

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
><snip>
>
> I still don't "get" the idea. But around here, you see the occasional
> Swann's truck and from what I hear they deliver frozen entrees to your door.
> I have a friend who used to live right across the line over in Wynne,
> Arkansas who swore by the Swann's guy dropping off frozen lasanga and such.
> I still think I could do better just going to the grocery store and looking
> in the aisle that sells "family dinners".
>
> Jill

The Schwann's trucks come around here as well. But AFAIK the customers
are mostly elderly and disabled and have no one to drive them to the
supermarket. None of the supermarkets locally deliver, which is a shame
really.

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>> Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>> go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>> choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>> package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>> Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>> know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>> a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>> either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>> book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>> to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>> judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>> good at the moment either
>
>
> It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
> can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
> meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
> hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?
>
>
> Brian

It's an absolute refusal to see something from anyone else's point of view.
It's a refusal to see that people of normal intelligence might find these
kinds of services useful.

Ms P

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

>~patches~ > hitched up their panties and
>posted :
>
>
>
>>My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going
>>even though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part
>>stupid people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that
>>way having someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do
>>whatever prep they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the
>>recipe while she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest.
>>That service is *not* cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for
>>sale
>>
>>
>
>While the service is not my cup of tea; I certainly would not call people
>that use the service stupid. There are plenty of people in my neighborhood
>that would benefit from this service. They're called soccer moms and they
>have a helluva job and I'm sure cooking every night is not something they
>look forward to. I'm just guessing but nutritional concerns, planning etc.
>is taken care of for them. The lady 3 doors down from me drives up and down
>the street at least a dozen times a day with any one or all three of her
>children in tow. She does not work outside the home but she runs her toosh
>off. She has to be exhausted at the end of the day.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>
When I was a kid children transported themselves on bicycles. Schools
used to have bike sheds. The world's gone mad, and mothers are the
victims. Grump, grump...

Christine

ms_peacock wrote:

>"Default User" > wrote in message
...
>
>
>>~patches~ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Let's think about this. These folks would pay out all that money to
>>>go to a place where they pay to have someone else chop up the food,
>>>choose the ingredients, choose the menu and recipes? Then they will
>>>package the food themselves, take them home and put them in the oven?
>>>Now if that isn't stupid, I don't know what is? If the people you
>>>know would gladly pay for this service then IMO they are dumber than
>>>a rock! I would think someone with any iota of intelligence would
>>>either take a cooking course at a community college, buy a recipe
>>>book, check online, buy a cooking video, or get a friend or relative
>>>to teach them how to cook. Now my FM always used to say you are
>>>judged by your acquaintences. This really isn't making you look too
>>>good at the moment either
>>>
>>>
>>It astounds me that people like you are so narrow-minded. Yes, people
>>can cook if they want to. Some DON'T want to, they don't want to plan
>>meals, they don't want to prepare raw ingredients, etc. Why is it so
>>hard to understand that others may not enjoy the things you do?
>>
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>
>It's an absolute refusal to see something from anyone else's point of view.
>It's a refusal to see that people of normal intelligence might find these
>kinds of services useful.
>
>Ms P
>
>
>
>
I think you might be begging the question, meaning asserting that which
you seek to establish.

What do you mean "useful"? I have no problem with people who are not
interested in cooking, what I can't understand is why they would prefer
this service over buying something already totally prepared by a
commercial caterer. With all due respect to Brian, I don't believe
anybody is saying that people who don't like cooking are stupid, rather
they are questioning the common sense of opting for this particular
solution to the unavoidable need to eat.

You say that your friends think, when you asked them, that they might
use this sort of service. People think lots of things when asked
hypothetical questions. The proof of the pudding, dare I say it, is in
the eating. How many of your friends actually have experience of this
sort of service? Do you reckon they'd really use it on a regular basis?

Christine

"Old Mother Ashby" > wrote in message
...
> What do you mean "useful"? I have no problem with people who are not
> interested in cooking, what I can't understand is why they would prefer
> this service over buying something already totally prepared by a
> commercial caterer. With all due respect to Brian, I don't believe anybody
> is saying that people who don't like cooking are stupid, rather they are
> questioning the common sense of opting for this particular solution to the
> unavoidable need to eat.
>
> You say that your friends think, when you asked them, that they might use
> this sort of service. People think lots of things when asked hypothetical
> questions. The proof of the pudding, dare I say it, is in the eating. How
> many of your friends actually have experience of this sort of service? Do
> you reckon they'd really use it on a regular basis?
>
> Christine

Well, the ability to have food prepared without ingredients they don't like.
Stuff you put together yourself and have at least some idea of what went
into it. The chance to feed your family something decent instead of fat and
salt laden fast food. But without the time spent planning, shopping and
cooking. That way useful.


If the friends that are fairly well off and have more money than time had
the opportunity to use a service such as this I could guarantee they'd use
it fairly regularly. A couple of them would probably use the service on a
very regular basis. As one of them put it "I flat don't have time."

Money they have, time they don't.

This is something that has come up in group discussions. At least one said
she'd kill for this kind of service.

Ms P

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> ~patches~ > hitched up their panties and
> posted :
>
>
>>My feelings exactly. Ms P obviously wants to keep the topic going
>>even though the OP gave up. Like I said a stupid idea meant to part
>>stupid people of their money. If she wants to spend her money that
>>way having someone else choose the quality of ingredients, someone do
>>whatever prep they do, someone choose the menu, and someone choose the
>>recipe while she is prepared to *pay* for that, she can be my guest.
>>That service is *not* cooking! I think I have a bridge somewhere for
>>sale
>
>
> While the service is not my cup of tea; I certainly would not call people
> that use the service stupid. There are plenty of people in my neighborhood
> that would benefit from this service. They're called soccer moms and they
> have a helluva job and I'm sure cooking every night is not something they
> look forward to. I'm just guessing but nutritional concerns, planning etc.
> is taken care of for them. The lady 3 doors down from me drives up and down
> the street at least a dozen times a day with any one or all three of her
> children in tow. She does not work outside the home but she runs her toosh
> off. She has to be exhausted at the end of the day.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
Ok, I wasn't a soccer mom per sey but I raised 4 kids while getting an
education that involved daily long commutes, while running a family
business and guess what, I managed to put home cooked meals on the table
for my family every night. My kids were involved in sports and other
extra curricular activities yet that meal was always on the table every
night and I managed to get to my kids' activities too. Many a day I
started at 5 am and didn't hit the pillow until 1 or 2 am later only to
repeat the pattern the next day. I know how to survive on 4 or 5 hrs.
sleep. You do what you have to do and you know what if you didn't want
to do it DON"T HAVE KIDS. So don't tell me these parents all of a
sudden have it so bad they can't make home cooked meals. As far as Ms P
goes, I'm out of the conversation.

I'm sorry to differ in opinion with you Michael. They would spend to do
their cooking *outside* their homes away from their families? I'd call
that stupid any day. Oh and check out the menu offered, not really all
that nutritious either.

One more group we haven't considered who might use this sort of service:
dieters.


Me, I'm someone who eats, gets full, and stops eating. Wait until
hungry again, and repeat process. Eat more than usual at one meal; eat
less at next. This is so normal and obvious to me that I was surprised
to learn that there are people for whom it isn't that easy. They
genuninely have trouble knowing how much is the right amount and when to
stop eating.


The diet industry thrives on these people. Jenny Craig type places are
one more example of a business that I wouldn't have thought stood a
chance of succeeding but that has. (In a limited way; it was a fad that
had a good run. It didn't last forever, but you can't say that it
didn't make money.) If you'd told me the business plan, I would have
laughed at its stupidity. You mean you're really going to get women to
pay money to have people "counsel" them to buy frozen meals which
they're to take home, reheat, and eat? And yet it was exactly the
pre-measuredness of the meals that made the plan work.


Any one of those dieters could have bought frozen meals at the
supermarket or prepared far better meals from scratch at home, measure
the appropriate amounts to eat, figure calories, etc. But if it were
that easy for them, they'd be people who naturally knew when to stop
eating as I do. They're not.


That could be exactly the hook that could make cooking at an off-site
kitchen work. You'd prep the meals yourself so you could tweak the
seasoning, but someone else would do the planning and most of the
measuring. In other words, I don't think it is that hard to serve a
meat and 2 vegetables for dinner or a meat, a starch and a vegetable,
but that might be a difficult thing for someone with a history of diet
and eating disorder-type problems. With this plan, you have someone
else doing that part of the thinking for you.


--Lia

"Julia Altshuler" > wrote in message
...
> One more group we haven't considered who might use this sort of service:
> dieters.
>
>
> Me, I'm someone who eats, gets full, and stops eating. Wait until hungry
> again, and repeat process. Eat more than usual at one meal; eat less at
> next. This is so normal and obvious to me that I was surprised to learn
> that there are people for whom it isn't that easy. They genuninely have
> trouble knowing how much is the right amount and when to stop eating.
>
>
> The diet industry thrives on these people. Jenny Craig type places are
> one more example of a business that I wouldn't have thought stood a chance
> of succeeding but that has. (In a limited way; it was a fad that had a
> good run. It didn't last forever, but you can't say that it didn't make
> money.) If you'd told me the business plan, I would have laughed at its
> stupidity. You mean you're really going to get women to pay money to have
> people "counsel" them to buy frozen meals which they're to take home,
> reheat, and eat? And yet it was exactly the pre-measuredness of the meals
> that made the plan work.
>
>
> Any one of those dieters could have bought frozen meals at the supermarket
> or prepared far better meals from scratch at home, measure the appropriate
> amounts to eat, figure calories, etc. But if it were that easy for them,
> they'd be people who naturally knew when to stop eating as I do. They're
> not.
>
>
> That could be exactly the hook that could make cooking at an off-site
> kitchen work. You'd prep the meals yourself so you could tweak the
> seasoning, but someone else would do the planning and most of the
> measuring. In other words, I don't think it is that hard to serve a meat
> and 2 vegetables for dinner or a meat, a starch and a vegetable, but that
> might be a difficult thing for someone with a history of diet and eating
> disorder-type problems. With this plan, you have someone else doing that
> part of the thinking for you.
>

Except that for the places like this that I've looked at menus/cooking
directions for, they don't seem to be selling full meals, they're just
selling the entrees. If it's a pasta dish, you get the starch of course, but
a lot are just meat and spices or meat and a sauce. So if someone actually
wanted veggies or other side dishes, they'd still have to figure out that
part of it on their own. Not to mention salad, condiments, etc. that might
be appropriate with the meal.

I'm sure there are SOME people that will go to a business like this as it is
organized, but I just wonder if there are enough to make it a viable
business, long-term. But there are things they could do to tweak it that
could make it a lot better. Like include veggies. Or have a selection of
dishes that could be cooked from frozen and done in a half-hour for the busy
moms who don't have time to cook after work. Then they could have another
selection for people who are okay with boiling, frying, and spending some
time in the kitchen to prepare the meal.

I'm going to make it a point to go to the one here in town (different chain)
and see who their customers are. Could be enlightening.

Donna

"Old Mother Ashby" > wrote in message
...


> Well, you'll just have to hope that one opens in your town soon before
> your young friends asll starve to death or perish of supersizing syndrome.
> :-)
>
> Christine

LOL, sadly they're just going to have to suffer. I sincerely doubt if one
of those services will ever open here. Too small and too many of the wrong
kind of demographics.

I feed them when I can.

Ms P

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...

>> I'm wondering about the ingredients. Where are they sourced? Does the
>> franchisee have to buy them wholesale and then chop them up, or do
>> they come from some central warehouse associated with the franchisor?
>> Are
>> they fresh every day, or do they keep them until they're going a bit
>> funny looking at the edges?
>>
>> Christine
>
> Yeah, that was one of my questions about the original post. Where do the
> ingredients come from? Does the franchisee have to buy them from a
> specific
> place? How would one know about the ingredients they are given to use to
> serve? Huh, no answer.

Actually, you do not have this information about restaurants, either, unless
you stake out their parking lots all day to see which delivery trucks come
and go.

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote on 15 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking

> Patches, these people have 6 or even 7 digit incomes.

If I had a 6 or 7 digit income...each of my kitchens and walk in coolers
would have all the time saving devices know to man and I wouldn't require
their services. There are devices out there to chop and dice food to most
any size. But I don't have the room in my present 5 digit income kitchen to
house them.

--
-Alan

On Wed 15 Mar 2006 06:03:57a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Mr Libido
Incognito?

> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote on 15 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking
>
>> Patches, these people have 6 or even 7 digit incomes.
>
> If I had a 6 or 7 digit income...each of my kitchens and walk in coolers
> would have all the time saving devices know to man and I wouldn't
> require their services. There are devices out there to chop and dice
> food to most any size. But I don't have the room in my present 5 digit
> income kitchen to house them.
>

Guess you need to bump up that income, Alan, as do I. :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright o¿o
____________________

BIOYA

~patches~ wrote:


> First I'm not narrow-minded

Yes, you are.

> and second if they want to spend their
> hard earned dollars on this type of thing, more power to them. They
> can knock themselves out for all I care. But I will stand behind my
> position that this is a stupid service meant to take money from
> stupid people.

Nope, not narrow-minded at all.

> They can get the exact same thing in other ways that
> have been posted without having to take the extra time and money.

Nonsense. There's no other way that gives this level of planning,
pre-preparation, and similar quality of ingredients. They are
essentially paying for kits.

It wouldn't be for me, but that doesn't make it stupid.


> Heck
> you can even get a cook to come in cheaper per serving than what this
> service is charging.

Post some evidence of that.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

jmcquown wrote:


> My mother hates to cook She freely admits it. She did it because
> she had kids and it was what a mom did. She even baked cookies.
> (laughing) She wonders where I got my 'cooking gene'. Beats me, I
> just like good food and I enjoy preparing it and cooking it. I just
> don't want to do it at some location away from my kitchen and I sure
> don't want to do it with a pre-set bunch of recipes and ingredients.
> I want to pick out what vegetables I use, what spices I use; make the
> sauce, choose the meat, etc.

No kidding. But not everyone is you. Get it?



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Default User wrote:

> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
> > First I'm not narrow-minded
>
> Yes, you are.

This is like The Argument sketch from Monty Python.
No it isn't, yes it is, not it isn't.

> > They can get the exact same thing in other ways that
> > have been posted without having to take the extra time and money.
>
> Nonsense. There's no other way that gives this level of planning,
> pre-preparation, and similar quality of ingredients. They are
> essentially paying for kits.

Kits? Kraft Dinner is kit. El Paso Taco dinner kits are kids. This is a
different type of gimmick. The OP and someone else painted slightly
different pictures. The OP said that you do the slicing, dicing, chopping
and assembly. Someone who had been to one, or one like it, said that the
stuff is pre chopped, like a work station. What you end up with is a
packaged entree ready to be heated up for dinner or frozen for later, but
you had to make it yourself.

> It wouldn't be for me, but that doesn't make it stupid.

Perhaps not, but it sure looks like a dumb idea to me. I can't imagine
using the service myself and I can't imagine who would.

> > Heck
> > you can even get a cook to come in cheaper per serving than what this
> > service is charging.
>
> Post some evidence of that.

The OP suggested a cost of $120 for six entrees. I would do it for that. I
would do it for less than that. I am not a professional cook, but that
shouldn't be an issue for something that is going to be packed away and
eaten later. I know lots of people who are professional chefs. Based on
what they are paid at their restaurants it would likely mean a more
profitable hour or two of work than their regular jobs.

Default User wrote:

> ~patches~ wrote:
>
>
>
>>First I'm not narrow-minded
>
>
> Yes, you are.

Whatever

>
>
>>and second if they want to spend their
>>hard earned dollars on this type of thing, more power to them. They
>>can knock themselves out for all I care. But I will stand behind my
>>position that this is a stupid service meant to take money from
>>stupid people.
>
>
> Nope, not narrow-minded at all.
>

Not at all but I'm getting the impression you are.

>
>>They can get the exact same thing in other ways that
>>have been posted without having to take the extra time and money.
>
>
> Nonsense. There's no other way that gives this level of planning,
> pre-preparation, and similar quality of ingredients. They are
> essentially paying for kits.
>
> It wouldn't be for me, but that doesn't make it stupid.
>
>
>
>>Heck
>>you can even get a cook to come in cheaper per serving than what this
>>service is charging.
>
>
> Post some evidence of that.

Do your own research. I had homecare that use my ingredients and my
equipment to make tasty meals a lot cheaper than those quoted for the EV
service AND right in the comforts of my own home. During some of my
very busy times, I had a home maker come in that would do the same
thing. Your costs will likely depend on your area and what you expect
of homecare or a home maker.

PS. done responding on this topic.
>
>
>
> Brian
>

Default User wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> My mother hates to cook She freely admits it. She did it because
>> she had kids and it was what a mom did. She even baked cookies.
>> (laughing) She wonders where I got my 'cooking gene'. Beats me, I
>> just like good food and I enjoy preparing it and cooking it. I just
>> don't want to do it at some location away from my kitchen and I sure
>> don't want to do it with a pre-set bunch of recipes and ingredients.
>> I want to pick out what vegetables I use, what spices I use; make the
>> sauce, choose the meat, etc.
>
> No kidding. But not everyone is you. Get it?
> Brian

So you'd go someplace and spend 2 hours and hundreds of dollars to chop,
slice, dice and so on and so forth just to bring home a weeks worth of
dinners? Keep in mind, this does not include salads, vegetables and/or side
dishes.

Jill

Doug Kanter wrote:

>"jmcquown" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>
>
>>>I'm wondering about the ingredients. Where are they sourced? Does the
>>>franchisee have to buy them wholesale and then chop them up, or do
>>>they come from some central warehouse associated with the franchisor?
>>>Are
>>>they fresh every day, or do they keep them until they're going a bit
>>>funny looking at the edges?
>>>
>>>Christine
>>>
>>>
>>Yeah, that was one of my questions about the original post. Where do the
>>ingredients come from? Does the franchisee have to buy them from a
>>specific
>>place? How would one know about the ingredients they are given to use to
>>serve? Huh, no answer.
>>
>>
>
>Actually, you do not have this information about restaurants, either, unless
>you stake out their parking lots all day to see which delivery trucks come
>and go.
>
>
>
>
But if I was thinking of buying a restaurant it's certainly something
I'd need to know, don't you think?

Christine