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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>
> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
> break of human rights.
>
> Article 18.
> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
> worship and observance.
>
> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
> sin. James 4:17


Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:

http://tinyurl.com/s39k8

However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
Word of GOD:

http://tinyurl.com/q86j9

May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
name.

Amen!

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>>
>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
>> break of human rights.
>>
>> Article 18.
>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
>> worship and observance.
>>
>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
>> sin. James 4:17
>>

>
> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
>
> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
> Word of GOD:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
>
> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> name.
>
> Amen!
>
> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
> 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
> thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
> LORD willing:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
>
> For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
> how the LORD has reshaped me:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's love,
>
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
>
>


Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
already concluded.

It is the opposite of gaining knowledge.

And it shows!




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AcesLucky wrote:
>
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
> >>
> >> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
> >> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
> >> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
> >> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
> >> break of human rights.
> >>
> >> Article 18.
> >> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> >> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
> >> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
> >> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
> >> worship and observance.
> >>
> >> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
> >> sin. James 4:17
> >>

> >
> > Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> > the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
> >
> > However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
> > 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
> > Word of GOD:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
> >
> > May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> > seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> > name.
> >
> > Amen!

>
> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
> already concluded.


No.

Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."

Source:

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Jesus' most
precious and holy name.

May GOD continue to draw you closer to HIS light so that someday you
will be able to read what is written on HIS thigh:

"KING of kings and LORD of lords"

Amen!

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8


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On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:

>
>Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>


What is so "honorable" about W ???????
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:27:10 GMT, Michael F. Poellot
> wrote:

>On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>

>
>What is so "honorable" about W ???????


You have to be a sociopath of the worst kind to go into somebody
else's country and convert people knowing they can be killed for it.


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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> AcesLucky wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
>>>> break of human rights.
>>>>
>>>> Article 18.
>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
>>>> worship and observance.
>>>>
>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
>>>> sin. James 4:17
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
>>>
>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
>>> Word of GOD:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
>>>
>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
>>> name.
>>>
>>> Amen!
>>>

>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
>> already concluded.
>>

>
> No.
>
> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
>
> Source:
>
> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
>


Doesn't change anything that I said. It is STILL forever looking for
something to support /that which it has already concluded/.

See, the faith you're talking about begins with a belief OF god. The
faith begins with an assumption that a god exists! Otherwise everything
that's dependent on it (in your definition) becomes immediately moot.

A prerequisite of your faith, therefor, concludes that there IS a god to
be loyal to!

That, being a given in your mind set, is why you speculate about
biblical seals being broken and so forth. Once you accept the horoscope,
you can see how everything fits what it says. That's because the
language is always too ambiguous to be clear, so you make out of it
whatever you need to keep supporting the belief.

It's social hypnosis.

But thank you for your prayers. They have been proved scientifically not
to work; but it's the thought that counts!


> You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor whom I love, in Jesus' most
> precious and holy name.
>
> May GOD continue to draw you closer to HIS light so that someday you
> will be able to read what is written on HIS thigh:
>
> "KING of kings and LORD of lords"
>
> Amen!
>
> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
> 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
> thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
> LORD willing:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
>
> For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
> the LORD has reshaped me:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's love,
>
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
>
>
>

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Michael F. Poellot wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > wrote:
>
>
>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>
>>

>
> What is so "honorable" about W ???????
>


He's been proved to be a liar.
He's been proved to be a mas murderer of innocent people.
He's been proved to be incompetent.

Oh! He's a Christian! What more do you need?
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AcesLucky wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > AcesLucky wrote:
> >
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>
> >>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
> >>>>
> >>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
> >>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
> >>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
> >>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
> >>>> break of human rights.
> >>>>
> >>>> Article 18.
> >>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> >>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
> >>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
> >>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
> >>>> worship and observance.
> >>>>
> >>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
> >>>> sin. James 4:17
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> >>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
> >>>
> >>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
> >>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
> >>> Word of GOD:
> >>>
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
> >>>
> >>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> >>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> >>> name.
> >>>
> >>> Amen!
> >>>
> >> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
> >> already concluded.
> >>

> >
> > No.
> >
> > Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
> >
> > Source:
> >
> > http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
> >

>
> Doesn't change anything that I said.


No. It simply contradicts what you have written.

Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
belief in GOD.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
how the LORD has reshaped me:

http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8

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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:58:07 -0700, AcesLucky >
wrote:

>Michael F. Poellot wrote:


>> What is so "honorable" about W ???????
>>

>
>He's been proved to be a liar.
>He's been proved to be a mas murderer of innocent people.
>He's been proved to be incompetent.
>
>Oh! He's a Christian! What more do you need?


Correction !!! He is a reborn Christian ( = sanctimonious hypocrit )
who quit drinking !!!! That´s even worse.
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....make straight paths for HIM. (Matthew 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
(Isaiah 40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding a "great
earthquake" (Revelation 6:12) that may possibly happen in less than 5
days (03/29/06), the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT
came to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know. It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7. Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
this message.

At 7:00 AM Eastern Standard Time next Wednesday (3/29/2006), an unusual
total solar eclipse will happen in Turkey at 2:00 PM (their time) that
will darken the skies of the ancient cities where the 7 Churches of
Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in Revelation (1:11
and then chapters 2 through 3). A parallel solar eclipse apparently
happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which is the year that
Jerusalem was destroyed. This upcoming total solar eclipse next
Wednesday could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this
solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
6 that precede the "great earthquake" heralded by the 12th verse,
please visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

This Sunday (3/26/2006) you are welcome to stop by the on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chatroom between 2-5 PM Eastern Standard Time to ask
questions and confirm the authenticity of this message:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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"Christopher A. Lee" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:27:10 GMT, Michael F. Poellot
> > wrote:
>
>>On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>>the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>

>>
>>What is so "honorable" about W ???????

>
> You have to be a sociopath of the worst kind to go into somebody
> else's country and convert people knowing they can be killed for it.


He converted himself, years ago.


rob


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On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:

>May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
>seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
>name.


The second coming of David Koresh?

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Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:58:07 -0700, AcesLucky >
wrote:

>Michael F. Poellot wrote:
>> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>
>>>

>>
>> What is so "honorable" about W ???????
>>

>
>He's been proved to be a liar.
>He's been proved to be a mas murderer of innocent people.
>He's been proved to be incompetent.


That's called, 'Proven Leadership.'

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> AcesLucky wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
>>>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
>>>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
>>>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
>>>>>> break of human rights.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Article 18.
>>>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
>>>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
>>>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
>>>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
>>>>>> worship and observance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
>>>>>> sin. James 4:17
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
>>>>>
>>>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
>>>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
>>>>> Word of GOD:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
>>>>>
>>>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
>>>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
>>>>> name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
>>>> already concluded.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
>>>
>>> Source:
>>>
>>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
>>>
>>>

>> Doesn't change anything that I said.
>>

>
> No. It simply contradicts what you have written.
>
> Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
> belief in GOD.
>


Right; that's why there's no such thing as church.

(By now, ignoring reality is a no-brainer, isn't it?)

> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
> 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
> thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
> LORD willing:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
>
> For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for
> how the LORD has reshaped me:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's love,
>
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
>
>

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AcesLucky wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > AcesLucky wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>> AcesLucky wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >>>>>

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
> >>>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
> >>>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
> >>>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
> >>>>>> break of human rights.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Article 18.
> >>>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> >>>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
> >>>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
> >>>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
> >>>>>> worship and observance.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
> >>>>>> sin. James 4:17
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> >>>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
> >>>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
> >>>>> Word of GOD:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
> >>>>>
> >>>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> >>>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> >>>>> name.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amen!
> >>>>>
> >>>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
> >>>> already concluded.
> >>>>
> >>> No.
> >>>
> >>> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
> >>>
> >>> Source:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
> >>>
> >> Doesn't change anything that I said.

> >
> > No. It simply contradicts what you have written.
> >
> > Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
> > belief in GOD.

>
> Right;


GOD is right.

> that's why there's no such thing as church.


The purpose of the Christian church is to bring praise and glory to GOD
and not for folks to find their faith there.

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satyr wrote:
>
> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > wrote:
>
> >May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> >seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> >name.

>
> The second coming of David Koresh?


No.

The "great tribulation" as referenced by the 14th verse of Revelation 7.

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"Michael F. Poellot" wrote:
>
> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> >the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >

>
> What is so "honorable" about W ???????


There is honor is being chosen by the LORD to lead "one nation under
GOD."

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
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LORD willing:

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> AcesLucky wrote:
>
>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>
>>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>
>>>>>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
>>>>>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
>>>>>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
>>>>>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
>>>>>>>> break of human rights.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Article 18.
>>>>>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
>>>>>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
>>>>>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
>>>>>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
>>>>>>>> worship and observance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
>>>>>>>> sin. James 4:17
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>>>>>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
>>>>>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
>>>>>>> Word of GOD:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
>>>>>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
>>>>>> already concluded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
>>>>>
>>>>> Source:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Doesn't change anything that I said.
>>>>
>>> No. It simply contradicts what you have written.
>>>
>>> Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
>>> belief in GOD.
>>>

>> Right;
>>

>
> GOD is right.
>
>
>> that's why there's no such thing as church.
>>

>
> The purpose of the Christian church is to bring praise and glory to GOD
> and not for folks to find their faith there.
>


You've got it backwards, ...unless you need /church/ to bring praise and
glory to god. (Which somehow won't surprise me.)


But back to faith...it's believing things that are not supported by
evidence (Hebrews).

Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.
[Richard Dawkins]

"If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are
conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits."
[Dan Barker]

"Faith is not a justification, but an admission that there is no
justification. If there are rational reasons to believe something, then
"faith" is superfluous. If there are no rational reasons to believe
something, then continued belief is, by definition, irrational."
[Acknowledgements to Godfrey]


The only difference between faith and superstition is context.
[AcesLucky]

> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
> 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
> thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
> LORD willing:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
>
> For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
> the LORD has reshaped me:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's love,
>
> Andrew
> http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
>
>
>

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Most religions over the centuries have killed or brutalized non believers.
they think this is serving their god and lubricating their path to heaven.

"AcesLucky" > wrote in message
news:qudVf.2699$x11.6@fed1read10...
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>
>>>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> AcesLucky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and
>>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr
>>>>>>>>> Rahman
>>>>>>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you
>>>>>>>>> wonderful
>>>>>>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such
>>>>>>>>> injustice and
>>>>>>>>> break of human rights.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Article 18.
>>>>>>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and
>>>>>>>>> religion;
>>>>>>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
>>>>>>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
>>>>>>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
>>>>>>>>> worship and observance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> sin. James 4:17
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
>>>>>>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Word of GOD:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
>>>>>>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
>>>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
>>>>>>> already concluded.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Source:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't change anything that I said.
>>>>>
>>>> No. It simply contradicts what you have written.
>>>>
>>>> Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
>>>> belief in GOD.
>>>>
>>> Right;
>>>

>>
>> GOD is right.
>>
>>
>>> that's why there's no such thing as church.
>>>

>>
>> The purpose of the Christian church is to bring praise and glory to GOD
>> and not for folks to find their faith there.
>>

>
> You've got it backwards, ...unless you need /church/ to bring praise and
> glory to god. (Which somehow won't surprise me.)
>
>
> But back to faith...it's believing things that are not supported by
> evidence (Hebrews).
>
> Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of
> evidence.
> [Richard Dawkins]
>
> "If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are
> conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits."
> [Dan Barker]
>
> "Faith is not a justification, but an admission that there is no
> justification. If there are rational reasons to believe something, then
> "faith" is superfluous. If there are no rational reasons to believe
> something, then continued belief is, by definition, irrational."
> [Acknowledgements to Godfrey]
>
>
> The only difference between faith and superstition is context.
> [AcesLucky]
>
>> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
>> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
>> 03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
>> thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
>> LORD willing:
>> http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq
>> For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
>> the LORD has reshaped me:
>> http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo
>>
>> Prayerfully in Christ's love,
>> Andrew http://tinyurl.com/rgsp8
>>
>>
>>



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On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:55:38 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> wrote:

>"Michael F. Poellot" wrote:
>>
>> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
>> >the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
>> >

>>
>> What is so "honorable" about W ???????

>
>There is honor is being chosen by the LORD to lead "one nation under
>GOD."


Is there dishonor when you **** it up?


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satyr wrote:
>
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:55:38 -0500, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Michael F. Poellot" wrote:
> >>
> >> On 24 Mar 2006 06:05:34 -0800, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> >> >the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >> >
> >>
> >> What is so "honorable" about W ???????

> >
> >There is honor is being chosen by the LORD to lead "one nation under
> >GOD."

>
> Is there dishonor when you **** it up?


Though we may stumble, the LORD keeps us from falling.

Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, the 2006 global earthquake advisory for
03/29/06, cooking and nutrition that interest those following this
thread here during the next on-line chat (03/30/06) from 5 to 6 pm EST,
LORD willing:

http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
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http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

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Andrew
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AcesLucky wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > AcesLucky wrote:
> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>> AcesLucky wrote:
> >>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>> AcesLucky wrote:
> >>>>>> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >>>>>>> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >>>>>>>

> > http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html
> >
> >>>>>>>> It would be great if you and others wrote to your Government and asked
> >>>>>>>> why § 18 of the human rights of the UNO is not kept there, so Mr Rahman
> >>>>>>>> is set free soon. Please do not just let him die there, you wonderful
> >>>>>>>> people with a Christian heart here. Speak out against such injustice and
> >>>>>>>> break of human rights.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Article 18.
> >>>>>>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
> >>>>>>>> this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
> >>>>>>>> freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
> >>>>>>>> private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
> >>>>>>>> worship and observance.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To him therefore who knows to do good, and doesn't do it, to him it is
> >>>>>>>> sin. James 4:17
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thankfully, Honorable President George Bush speaks for the citizens of
> >>>>>>> the U.S. when pressuring Afganistan to release Abdul Rahman:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/s39k8
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> However, this may be part of the 5th seal being opened (Revelation
> >>>>>>> 6:11) as possibly was the slaying of Tom Fox, who recently died for the
> >>>>>>> Word of GOD:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q86j9
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> May GOD help us endure what will happen with the opening of the 6th
> >>>>>>> seal possibly in less than 5 days, in Jesus' most precious and holy
> >>>>>>> name.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Amen!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Faith. Forever looking for something to support that which it has
> >>>>>> already concluded.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> No.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Faith is "belief and trust in and loyalty to GOD."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Source:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith
> >>>>>
> >>>> Doesn't change anything that I said.
> >>>>
> >>> No. It simply contradicts what you have written.
> >>>
> >>> Those with faith are neither looking for nor needing support for their
> >>> belief in GOD.
> >>>
> >> Right;

> >
> > GOD is right.
> >
> >> that's why there's no such thing as church.

> >
> > The purpose of the Christian church is to bring praise and glory to GOD
> > and not for folks to find their faith there.

>
> You've got it backwards


No.

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http://tinyurl.com/8w7uq

For those who are put off by the signature, my advance apologies for how
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http://tinyurl.com/7mcuo

Prayerfully in Christ's love,

Andrew
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> ...make straight paths for HIM. (Matthew 3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)
>
> "Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
> rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain."
> (Isaiah 40:4)
>
> Dear Friend,
>
> Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
> effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding a "great
> earthquake" (Revelation 6:12) that may possibly happen in less than 5
> days (03/29/06), the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT
> came to mind.
>
> This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out
> into the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard
> by all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
> Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know. It will be
> my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
> understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
> in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
> referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7. Please join me in our
> collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
> infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of
> this message.
>
> At 7:00 AM Eastern Standard Time next Wednesday (3/29/2006), an unusual
> total solar eclipse will happen in Turkey at 2:00 PM (their time) that
> will darken the skies of the ancient cities where the 7 Churches of
> Christ reside in the same order as given **twice** in Revelation (1:11
> and then chapters 2 through 3). A parallel solar eclipse apparently
> happened on this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which is the year that
> Jerusalem was destroyed. This upcoming total solar eclipse next
> Wednesday could very well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in
> the prophetic vision given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in
> the 12th verse of Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this
> solar eclipse visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.
>
> For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
> observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation
> 6 that precede the "great earthquake" heralded by the 12th verse,
> please visit the following online article:
>
> http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse
>
> This Sunday (3/26/2006) you are welcome to stop by the on-line
> HeartMDPhD.com chatroom between 2-5 PM Eastern Standard Time to ask
> questions and confirm the authenticity of this message:
>


Sooooooooooooo. What's the deal? It's now 2:17pm MONDAY. March 27th.
And errr, ehhh.. What's up? Sompt'n happen?

> http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp
>
> In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
> USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial
> recipients, would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ,
> cardiology, atheism, and/or cooking food.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> Andrew
> --
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> http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/
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AcesLucky wrote:
>
> Sooooooooooooo. What's the deal? It's now 2:17pm MONDAY. March 27th.
> And errr, ehhh.. What's up? Sompt'n happen?


"Prepare the way for the LORD, make straight paths for HIM." (Matthew
3:3 and Isaiah 40:3)

"Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the
rough ground shall become level, and the rugged places a plain." (Isaiah
40:4)

Dear Friend,

Through many days of prayer seeking the LORD's guidance on how to
effectively call out as one of HIS lowly watchmen regarding a "great
earthquake" (Revelation 6:12) that may possibly happen tomorrow
(03/29/06), the above verses which are from both the OT and the NT came
to mind.

This electronic message will be a feeble solitary voice calling out into
the desert that is the Internet ever hopeful that it will be heard by
all so that "the glory of the LORD will be revealed." (Isaiah 40:5)
Please help by conveying this message to everyone you know. It will be
my fervent prayer, in Jesus' most precious and holy name, that all who
understand the essence of this message will be protected from all harm
in this time that may possibly be leading to "the great tribulation"
referenced in the 14th verse of Revelation 7. Please join me in our
collectively praying for GOD's protection, HIS continued mercy and HIS
infinite grace for all those who are blessed by an understanding of this
message.

At 7:00 AM Eastern Standard Time Wednesday (3/29/2006), an unusual total
solar eclipse will happen in Turkey at 2:00 PM (their time) that will
darken the skies of the ancient cities where the 7 Churches of Christ
reside in the same order as given **twice** in Revelation (1:11 and then
chapters 2 through 3). A parallel solar eclipse apparently happened on
this same day (March 29th) in 70AD, which is the year that Jerusalem was
destroyed. This upcoming total solar eclipse next Wednesday could very
well be the same eclipse that was seen by John in the prophetic vision
given to him by LORD Jesus Christ as described in the 12th verse of
Revelation 6. A "great earthquake" is linked to this solar eclipse
visualized by John as described in Revelation 6:12.

For more details including a link that has descriptions of recent
observed events that may possibly represent the elements in Revelation 6
that precede the "great earthquake" heralded by the 12th verse, please
visit the following online article:

http://MabletonGA.OurLittle.net/SolarEclipse

You are invited to sign up for being notified about the next on-line
HeartMDPhD.com chat to ask questions and confirm the authenticity of
this message and its author:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/chat.asp

In the continued interest of making this message "on-topic" for the
USENET newsgroups ACC, SMC, AA, and RFC that are its initial recipients,
would be glad to also chat about LORD Jesus Christ, cardiology, atheism,
and/or cooking food.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
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Cardiologist and Foundation Advisor
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com/


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