Might as well toss your fish oil pills into the chowder. You served salmon a
lot when you might have gotten the same health benefits with lean pork.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/hl_nm/omega3_dc
says Omega-3 is not really all that great.

Have you noticed how lately they tout something as a major health benefit
and then discount it after five years? The process is getting faster now,
they are already publishing stuff that doubts efficacy of Omega-3 benefits.

It's like all those years you were told to limit eggs. They recently changed
it and now say don't worry about it anymore.

We should be able to depend on the government to require at least that any
involvement by profit interests in these studies must be prominently
published so the consumer can judge whether it is science-based or
profit-based research --and requiring that any media report must include the
origin of these studies.

I know that can sometimes be a gray area, but if Chicken of the Sea is in
any way involved in health research on Tuna, it should be the most prominent
sponsor mentioned, by law. Then if later studies done independently
replicate it or not the consumer can be the judge. At least knowing the
corporate interest will provide a balanced skepticism.

How many people have in the past few years adjusted their diet to increase
Omega-3 as well as other so-called benefits that are rapidly falling by the
wayside. It's almost like if you set up a healthy eating-lifestyle two years
ago, it not only might be useless and outdated, but may prove harmful even
if it merely edges-out something else important.

I'm not talking about fad diets here. It has gotten to a point where actual
foods are competing with each other for ad space. I have a bag of dried
plums that says on the bag that it is better than bananas for potassium. The
problem is even doctors are swayed, so if you ask an opinion, they only have
the info the media, including journals, has.

With all the leaps that modern science is capable of you want to know if
your choices are at least not harmful. But you don't want to avoid something
then find out it never was harmful to begin with, or the other way around.

The Omega-3 studies they talked about today just ****ed me off. If you are
relatively healthy and live in an area that provides many choices, you have
less to be concerned about for the time being. But if you are in a position
where you must make choices for any reason there has to be some provisions
that require honesty, and punish misinformation.

A rant. I am getting fired up to play in a tournament tomorrow. Doesn't
anybody play badminton on this group?

--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful

Omega 3s - we supplement our kids with it because of research
showing its benefits on neurological function; and eldest kid has
medical issues I won't elaborate on here that have been shown to
benefit from Omega 3s. But we're careful not to eat too much fish that
could have high levels of mercury. It's such a balancing act.

In the end, as always, eat a wide range of foods, and eat them low on
the processing chain... prepared foods, foods with lots of ingredients
on the label, are just not going to be as healthy for you as things you
cook up yourself from whole ingredients - veg, fruit, whole grains,
animal proteins, nuts and legumes. IT's not all that difficult to
explain, but in this world it requires effort to actually eat this way.

Leila

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Omega 3s - we supplement our kids with it because of research
> showing its benefits on neurological function; and eldest kid has
> medical issues I won't elaborate on here that have been shown to
> benefit from Omega 3s. But we're careful not to eat too much fish that
> could have high levels of mercury. It's such a balancing act.
>
> In the end, as always, eat a wide range of foods, and eat them low on
> the processing chain... prepared foods, foods with lots of ingredients
> on the label, are just not going to be as healthy for you as things you
> cook up yourself from whole ingredients - veg, fruit, whole grains,
> animal proteins, nuts and legumes. IT's not all that difficult to
> explain, but in this world it requires effort to actually eat this way.
>
> Leila
>
Absolutely. What I wanted to illustrate here is that, for example, people
are told not to eat much fish due to mercury but to include X amount of
Omega-3 which now turns out to be crap (your childrens special needs are of
course an exception to this). So people go out and buy fish oil supplements
so as to get Omega-3 but avoid mercury; this because their doctor says they
have a heart risk and need Omega-3, spending their money on this when, in
fact, they don't need the Omega-3 supplemented at all because the
heart-benefit claims are false. They could have ate reasonable amounts of
the good, healthy fish instead of a pill. This much money could afford way
more in terms of healthy food because fish oil caps are processed and
expensive.

Nobody researches harder to enable a performance/health balanced diet than I
do--and I am saying it IS difficult to maintain balance in the amounts of
nutrients in the amounts of food I need when, after adjusting a diet I find
out that the adjustment is based on nonsense. For me, adding something, or
changing something is sometimes a big adjustment. The complaint is that
they allow misinformation, which should be regulated.

When they came out with the studies that eggs must be limited, people for
whom eggs were the best source of morning protein because they were easy
and, importantly, available, had to find other sources. That takes work. I
don't mind work, but I don't want to work on my diet on the schedule chosen
to publish studies. You can say well just substitute Tofu-- meaning learn to
cook a new kind of food and adjust it to taste over the next several weeks
to see if it is what you need; you don't simply exchange Tofu for eggs, you
have to learn about it. What if I am currently focusing elsewhere in a
training area?

They put ingredients on a can in order of quantity, they should make them
label nutritional research by prominence of sponsor. AND they should make
the corporate sponsor of a study deemed to be false reimburse or buy back
anything purchased under recommendations that are later shown to be
motivated only by profit.
--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful


> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Omega 3s - we supplement our kids with it because of research
> showing its benefits on neurological function; and eldest kid has
> medical issues I won't elaborate on here that have been shown to
> benefit from Omega 3s. But we're careful not to eat too much fish that
> could have high levels of mercury. It's such a balancing act.
>
> In the end, as always, eat a wide range of foods, and eat them low on
> the processing chain... prepared foods, foods with lots of ingredients
> on the label, are just not going to be as healthy for you as things you
> cook up yourself from whole ingredients - veg, fruit, whole grains,
> animal proteins, nuts and legumes. IT's not all that difficult to
> explain, but in this world it requires effort to actually eat this way.
>
> Leila
>

Did you play Regulation or picnic-style badminton? I thought there would be
people here that play regulation-style since there are posters from Canada,
and Down Under, and some Brits.

I grew up near a horse farm. I got to ride free by guiding newbies on the
trails. That is a great environment to rehab in.

--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful





"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
...
> "Lefty" > hitched up their panties and posted
> :
>
> <snippage for space>
>
> > Might as well toss your fish oil pills into the chowder. You served
> > salmon a lot when you might have gotten the same health benefits with
> > lean pork.
> >
> > Have you noticed how lately they tout something as a major health
> > benefit and then discount it after five years? The process is getting
> > faster now, they are already publishing stuff that doubts efficacy of
> > Omega-3 benefits.
>
> I only take Omega-3 because my doctor tells me to. I'll not discontinue
it
> unless he tells me it's no good for me. I feel great these days and want
> to continue
>
>
> >
> > It's like all those years you were told to limit eggs. They recently
> > changed it and now say don't worry about it anymore.
>
> In my case I use the egg substutes *sigh* I wonder when those will start
> being bad for you.
>
> >
> > How many people have in the past few years adjusted their diet to
> > increase Omega-3 as well as other so-called benefits that are rapidly
> > falling by the wayside. It's almost like if you set up a healthy
> > eating-lifestyle two years ago, it not only might be useless and
> > outdated, but may prove harmful even if it merely edges-out something
> > else important.
>
> I take Omega-3 in pill form and eat a lot of fish. I love fish. It is
> probably one of my most favorite foods. As I stated above, Omega-3 was
> suggested by my doctor. I eat a lot of pork too.
>
> >
> > A rant. I am getting fired up to play in a tournament tomorrow.
> > Doesn't anybody play badminton on this group?
>
> I haven't played badminton since last June. When I get the time, and feel
> like dealing with the drama queens, I'll sub for a regular in a dart
> tournament now and then at a local *** establishment. I'm really good at
> darts when I'm in the mood to play.
>
> For fun I garden, read and horseback ride (although I'm not supposed to
> yet). All 7 of my doctors are firm that I should not be on horses. It is
> the only thing I do in defiance of them. I have a lot of friends with
> horses and one is always available for me. My favorite is Hildy. She's a
> mean spirited thouroughbred which my friend Janet saved. Hildy is pretty
> much my horse. No one else will ride her. Janet said when I was sick
> Hildy got depressed a lot. Janet lives right off Creve Coeur Park and they
> have jumps set up too. Hildy likes to jump. I have offered to pay for
> Hildy's upkeep but Janet will not hear of it.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> --
> "The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
> served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
> found."
>
> --Calvin Trillin
>

Lefty wrote:

> Might as well toss your fish oil pills into the chowder. You served salmon a
> lot when you might have gotten the same health benefits with lean pork.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/hl_nm/omega3_dc
> says Omega-3 is not really all that great.
>
> Have you noticed how lately they tout something as a major health benefit
> and then discount it after five years? The process is getting faster now,
> they are already publishing stuff that doubts efficacy of Omega-3 benefits.

Lefty, I'll check out the article. I can't say I changed out diet in
any way regarding Omega-3 but I do take and Omega 3-6-9 supplement daily
in addition to other supplements. My take on a lot of the marketing
buzz words is they use whatever will sell the product. For awhile it
was new & improved, low fat, then low carb, heart smart, now trans-fat
free and omega 3. There are whole aisles of organic products too,
another buzz word. I've likely missed a couple. They will keep doing
this until the next thing comes along. That is what companies pay these
marketing experts to do. Find a buzz word that will sell their product.
I'm glad most of my food dollars are not spent in a grocery store!

"~patches~" > wrote in message
...
> Lefty wrote:
>
> > Might as well toss your fish oil pills into the chowder. You served
salmon a
> > lot when you might have gotten the same health benefits with lean pork.
> >
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060324/hl_nm/omega3_dc
> > says Omega-3 is not really all that great.
> >
> > Have you noticed how lately they tout something as a major health
benefit
> > and then discount it after five years? The process is getting faster
now,
> > they are already publishing stuff that doubts efficacy of Omega-3
benefits.
>
> Lefty, I'll check out the article. I can't say I changed out diet in
> any way regarding Omega-3 but I do take and Omega 3-6-9 supplement daily
> in addition to other supplements. My take on a lot of the marketing
> buzz words is they use whatever will sell the product. For awhile it
> was new & improved, low fat, then low carb, heart smart, now trans-fat
> free and omega 3. There are whole aisles of organic products too,
> another buzz word. I've likely missed a couple. They will keep doing
> this until the next thing comes along. That is what companies pay these
> marketing experts to do. Find a buzz word that will sell their product.
> I'm glad most of my food dollars are not spent in a grocery store!

You are lucky. In another life I lived more like you do with canning and
growing veggies. Now the only natural food I harvest is the fish I catch.
It's not just the O-3 supplements (I don't take them but eat lots of the
right fish), it's the whole idea that they build a whole science around a
particular "benefit" that is false.
The areas where socialist ideas about laws against the people are needed
are food and medicine. The rest of consuming can be "Buyer Beware" but they
should tightly regulate what can be done to sell food and drugs.
--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful

In article >, says...
>
> The Omega-3 studies they talked about today just ****ed me off. If you are
> relatively healthy and live in an area that provides many choices, you have
> less to be concerned about for the time being. But if you are in a position
> where you must make choices for any reason there has to be some provisions
> that require honesty, and punish misinformation.

I can see exactly where you are coming from here, but it is my honest
conviction that the people really to blame are journalists who are desperate
for some other gimmick to write about. One of them hears about something and
before you know it there are 25 vultures hacking away at the dead horse.

3 weeks later they've spotted a dying Wildebeest across the desert and horses
are no longer on the menu.

These hysterical fads and the short attention span syndrome seem to become more
and more common, or maybe I am gettting more and more cynical.

>
> A rant. I am getting fired up to play in a tournament tomorrow. Doesn't
> anybody play badminton on this group?
>

Used to until I ended up with chronic tennis elbow that necessitated an op and
a busted knee that no doctor can find anything wrong with. Still hurts like
hell if I have to get down on my knees more than 3 times in a day or walk half
a mile. :-( Sports is good for you, yeah, right.

> --
> Lefty

-Peter

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