On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:12:53 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> The German site worked for me this time, too. I've got it downloaded,
> installed, and will start playing with it later this evening.

Use the scripts, Luke!...
<http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Script_Library>

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 22:42:26 -0500, Steve Wertz
> rummaged among random neurons and opined:

>On 6 Apr 2006 14:33:28 -0700, "Sheldon" > wrote:
>
>>Oh, and of those who constantly need to remind that they've killfiled
>>anyone, they haven't, they lie. I know for a fact that hardly anyone
>>here has me killfiled,
>
>Deja/Google had you kill-filed for *5* years. That's quite a feat
>to have that many complaints against you. You are the Kinf Of
>Killfiles everywhere.
>
>Only last February did they start carrying your posts again (not
>quotes of your posts, but the originals). Somebosy must have made
>a mistake and flipped the wrong switch.

Only seeing Sheldumb through this post - have had the guy killfiled
for about 5 or 6 years. The only reason I'm responding to*this* post
is his idiotic claim that "hardly anyone here has me killfilled."

Sheldon, dear lad, the only time I see you is through others' posts.
You attacked me a few years ago for absolutely no reason and that was
the E.N.D. Don't reply, bucko, as I won't see it, even if I actually
"see" it through another's post.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...doing juvenile and don't care
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Most vigitaryans I iver see looked enough like their food to be
classed as cannybals."

Finley Peter Dunne (1900)

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:49:57 GMT, Yeff > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:12:53 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> The German site worked for me this time, too. I've got it downloaded,
>> installed, and will start playing with it later this evening.
>
>Use the scripts, Luke!...
><http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Script_Library>

Well, bless your pea-pickin' heart! I'll look into this before I get
in over my head.

Thanks,
Carol
--

Some people are like Slinkies... they don't really have a purpose but
they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

Stolen from "traid" on the IRC

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:49:57 GMT, Yeff > wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:12:53 -0500, Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> The German site worked for me this time, too. I've got it downloaded,
>> installed, and will start playing with it later this evening.
>
>Use the scripts, Luke!...
><http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Script_Library>

Those things terrify me! I'm trying, but I'm getting pretty
frustrated. Like, I want certain posters, threads and keywords
deleted. Can't for the life of me figure out how to do that.

I'd also like to pull down bodies when I download headers, but I can't
find anything that looks like I can set it up that way.

Carol, still on Agent
--

Some people are like Slinkies... they don't really have a purpose but
they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

Stolen from "traid" on the IRC

"Lefty" > wrote in message
...
>I wonder how many people actually use Killfile even though they say they
>do.
> I'll bet very few --I think people are too afraid they would miss
> something.
>
> This ng is like a high-rise walkup in Brooklyn,where virtually every
> ethnic
> group is represented. As you pass each door there is a different smell.
> You
> either like the smell or you don't -- but to the people cooking behind
> each
> door, theirs smells great.
>
> It would be nice if you could become a giant and get a whiff of the
> whole
> building at once so you could classify it, but you can't. So you cannot
> say
> "that building smells great", or "that building stinks". Like passing by
> those doors you can click on a topic header here, and just by seeing the
> number of posts, drifts, and the posters, you can get a whiff of that
> whole
> building -- if you tap into each thread drift you will get good smells
> and
> bad.
>
> You could killfile the ones you deem as usually bad smelling; like
> holding
> your nose, closing your eyes, and plugging your ears as you pass certain
> doors; but by doing so you might also miss out on the music. That
> intolerant
> asshole, that whining pussy, that know-it-all, might be the best horn
> player
> you've ever heard.
>
> Creative people always have their eyes, noses, ears, and palates open to
> new
> things. They can tolerate a lot of stinky chitterlings cooking in the
> pot if
> the cooker takes a break and plays Schubert, or Marley really well.
>
> Great food is an art. There is no place for killfiles in art, because
> perfection is a sum-total of myriad imperfections.
>
> You can dislike, argue, rant, call somebody a fool in one of their
> cooking
> posts but next time you pass their door you may hear great music.
> Creative
> people change levels; you can now appreciate that poster on a different
> level. So you called them names about cooking ten posts ago--that
> doesn't
> mean you cannot like what they say about the music and tell them so.
> So
> the killfile is actually killing possibilities.
>
> Thus, this ng does not stick entirely to cooking because art has no
> specific
> boundaries -- a writer's block can sometimes be overcome by changing
> media,
> like painting a landscape. Should writers ngs never discuss landscapes
> because it is not Writing?
>
> You need to be open to continuums in this world, as in the real world
> (whatever that means to you), to enrich your life, and your art -- and
> It's
> OK to be ****ed-off just as much as it's OK to be smarmy.
>
> (Obfood: see "stinky chitterlings" [aka chittlin's] above.)
> --
> Lefty
>
> Life is for learning
> The worst I ever had was wonderful
>
>
>
>
>
Almost everyone is open to good recipes and good taste. What bothers
people is bad taste.

MoM

sf wrote:

> > Speaking of which.... that name shifting Chung name shifted to get
> > around some people's filters for a little. It's amazing that these name
> > shifting *******s catch on the the fact that their names have been
> > filtered out and that they can ooze through filters by shifting their
> > user name. It's a pity that they don't learn to modify the approach that
> > causes people to filter them.
> >
> Chill Dave, it's not the end of the world... our time isn't so
> precious that 5 seconds of readjusting a filter will matter anywhere
> near a hill of beans in the whole scheme of things.

True enough. The question is why we should have to. People should be free to
speak their minds, and there are appropriate newsgroups for it. This particular
born again asshole has been cross-spamming for a long time. It's bd enough he
is preaching his nonsense in this group, but he could have the decency to stick
to one name. I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got sick
of Chung I plonked him. I plonked him because I am not interested in his
religious nonsense. I am offended by his religious nonsense no matter what name
he posts under.

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:33:37 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

> sf wrote:
>
> > > Speaking of which.... that name shifting Chung name shifted to get
> > > around some people's filters for a little. It's amazing that these name
> > > shifting *******s catch on the the fact that their names have been
> > > filtered out and that they can ooze through filters by shifting their
> > > user name. It's a pity that they don't learn to modify the approach that
> > > causes people to filter them.
> > >
> > Chill Dave, it's not the end of the world... our time isn't so
> > precious that 5 seconds of readjusting a filter will matter anywhere
> > near a hill of beans in the whole scheme of things.
>
> True enough. The question is why we should have to. People should be free to
> speak their minds, and there are appropriate newsgroups for it. This particular
> born again asshole has been cross-spamming for a long time. It's bd enough he
> is preaching his nonsense in this group, but he could have the decency to stick
> to one name. I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
> names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got sick
> of Chung I plonked him. I plonked him because I am not interested in his
> religious nonsense. I am offended by his religious nonsense no matter what name
> he posts under.
>
First of all, as I said in another post: How hard is it to right
click and select "filter"? To keep your usenet filters unclogged, set
it to expire xx days after the last post.

Secondly, IMO, we have at least two people here in rfc who actively
respond to each and every crossposted piece of christian garbage here
and they are only contributing to the noise. Thanks to my KFs I can't
look to see who they are. I am discounting the idiots who claim to be
lurkers that just can't take it anymore as flamers who are hiding
behind the rfc header.

Anyway, crossposting would have stopped a long time ago if pastorio
hadn't gotten that bee in his bonnet. Now someone else (you?) has
taken up the gauntlet. Stop. How easy is that? Stop, refilter, take
a breath and move on to something that doesn't raise your blood
pressure as much, like soup.

Lentil Soup
Recipe courtesy Giada De Laurentiis

Recipe Summary
Difficulty: Easy
Prep Time: 10 minutes
Cook Time: 1 hour
Yield: 6 servings
User Rating:


2 tablespoons olive oil, plus extra for drizzling
1 medium onion, chopped
2 carrots, peeled and chopped
2 celery stalks, chopped
2 garlic cloves, chopped
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
1 (14 1/2-ounce) can diced tomatoes
1 pound lentils (approximately 1 1/4 cups)
11 cups low-salt chicken broth
4 to 6 fresh thyme sprigs
2/3 cup dried elbow pasta
1 cup shredded Parmesan

Heat the oil in a heavy large pot over medium heat. Add the onion,
carrots, and celery. Add the garlic, salt, and pepper and sauté until
all the vegetables are tender, about 5 to 8 minutes. Add the tomatoes
with their juices. Simmer until the juices evaporate a little and the
tomatoes break down, stirring occasionally, about 8 minutes. Add the
lentils and mix to coat. Add the broth and stir. Add the thyme
sprigs. Bring to a boil over high heat. Cover and simmer over low
heat until the lentils are almost tender, about 30 minutes.

Stir in the pasta. Simmer until the pasta is tender but still firm to
the bite, about 8 minutes. Season with salt and pepper, to taste.

Ladle the soup into bowls. Sprinkle with the Parmesan, drizzle with
olive oil, and serve.


Episode#: EI1C01
Copyright © 2003 Television Food Network, G.P., All Rights Reserved


--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

sf wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 15:33:37 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>
>> sf wrote:
>>
>> > > Speaking of which.... that name shifting Chung name shifted to get
>> > > around some people's filters for a little. It's amazing that these name
>> > > shifting *******s catch on the the fact that their names have been
>> > > filtered out and that they can ooze through filters by shifting their
>> > > user name. It's a pity that they don't learn to modify the approach that
>> > > causes people to filter them.
>> > >
>> > Chill Dave, it's not the end of the world... our time isn't so
>> > precious that 5 seconds of readjusting a filter will matter anywhere
>> > near a hill of beans in the whole scheme of things.
>>
>> True enough. The question is why we should have to. People should be free to
>> speak their minds, and there are appropriate newsgroups for it. This particular
>> born again asshole has been cross-spamming for a long time. It's bd enough he
>> is preaching his nonsense in this group, but he could have the decency to stick
>> to one name. I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
>> names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got sick
>> of Chung I plonked him. I plonked him because I am not interested in his
>> religious nonsense. I am offended by his religious nonsense no matter what name
>> he posts under.
>>
>
> First of all, as I said in another post: How hard is it to right
> click and select "filter"? To keep your usenet filters unclogged, set
> it to expire xx days after the last post.
>
> Secondly, IMO, we have at least two people here in rfc who actively
> respond to each and every crossposted piece of christian garbage here
> and they are only contributing to the noise. Thanks to my KFs I can't
> look to see who they are. I am discounting the idiots who claim to be
> lurkers that just can't take it anymore as flamers who are hiding
> behind the rfc header.
>
> Anyway, crossposting would have stopped a long time ago if pastorio
> hadn't gotten that bee in his bonnet. Now someone else (you?) has
> taken up the gauntlet. Stop. How easy is that? Stop, refilter, take
> a breath and move on to something that doesn't raise your blood
> pressure as much, like soup.
>
I've removed the other reply to addy. I'm not sure if that was an
accident or not to include that addy.

My opinion and only that, killfiles don't work because others will quote
that person so you see the post anyway. I use killfiles myself for
certain threads and certain people. I never see either unless included
in a quote. If a poster continues to insist on quoting those posters, I
just add them to the twit filter as well. It works. Heck in real life
there are people you would not have anything to do with so why would
this be any different.

ObFood: I'm just finishing up a mini bulk cooking session. Some of
these pre-made dishes will help me get through the upcoming busy week.
IMO one of the easiest ways to deal with a busy lifestyle yet put good
homecooked meals on the table is by bulk cooking sessions or oamc even
if you have to modify it to your needs.

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> I've been attempting
> to download the Dialog program ever since Steve posted about it,

Listen to Steve, Damsel. He is correct about 40tude Dialog, except he
is not nearly enthusiastic enough. I've been mentioning that
newsreader/mailer for years. It's long been a better one than Agent.
It has a better feature set and looks a lot better than the garish
Agent. And it has an x-face support, the most important newsreader
feature of them all! ;-)

Of course, the best newsreader by far is still MacSOUP...

Bubba

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:33:58 +0200, (Victor Sack)
wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> I've been attempting
>> to download the Dialog program ever since Steve posted about it,
>
>Listen to Steve, Damsel. He is correct about 40tude Dialog, except he
>is not nearly enthusiastic enough. I've been mentioning that
>newsreader/mailer for years. It's long been a better one than Agent.
>It has a better feature set and looks a lot better than the garish
>Agent. And it has an x-face support, the most important newsreader
>feature of them all! ;-)

I'm trying to get it all figured out. There are things that Agent
does that I really like, and I can't find a way to accomplish them
with Dialog. I'll keep plugging away until I completely run out of
brain cells.

>Of course, the best newsreader by far is still MacSOUP...

Yeah, yeah, yeah ...

Carol
--

Some people are like Slinkies... they don't really have a purpose but
they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

Stolen from "traid" on the IRC

Dave Smith wrote:

> The question is why we should have to. People should be free to
> speak their minds, and there are appropriate newsgroups for it. This
particular
> born again asshole has been cross-spamming for a long time. It's bd
enough he
> is preaching his nonsense in this group, but he could have the decency to
stick
> to one name. I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
> names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got
sick
> of Chung I plonked him. I plonked him because I am not interested in his
> religious nonsense. I am offended by his religious nonsense no matter what
name
> he posts under.


Yep, I agree completely, the dude is a mental case who continually FLOODS
this and other groups with his spam. I don't see it when I post via OE
becaue I have him and all his "phrases" filtered but when I view this froup
via Google I see a SHOCKING amount of his posts. Hopefully his ISP will see
the folly of his ways and cancel his account (and I don't say that very
often about a poster, only for spammers and the kiddie por - noe sickies)...

--
Best
Greg

In article >,
Dave Smith > wrote:

> I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
> names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got sick
> of Chung I plonked him.

I just used the name chung so it didn't matter what the email address
was. If the from line includes anything at all that says chung, it's
history.

Regards,
Ranee

Remove do not & spam to e-mail me.

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
http://talesfromthekitchen.blogspot.com/

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 23:33:58 +0200, Victor Sack wrote:

> And it has an x-face support, the most important newsreader
> feature of them all! ;-)

I'm glad you included that wink
--

Practice safe eating. Always use condiments.

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:55:19 -0500, Steve Wertz wrote:

> Now that I use IMAP and not Agent for email, I could probably
> switch to dialog. If I can get it run under Linux/Wine.

Dialog doesn't do IMAP, just POP. As for Wine, I'm pretty sure I've seen
post where people made it work.

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

Ranee Mueller wrote:

> I just used the name chung so it didn't matter what the email
> address was. If the from line includes anything at all that says
> chung, it's history.

For me, the best thing was to filter that cardiology group. That gets
him AND all the replies, up until some helpful person here decides to
eliminant the cross-posts

Seriously, since I've added that filter, plus his name in the subject,
it's like he doesn't even exist for me anymore.



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On 10 Apr 2006 02:28:03 GMT, Default User wrote:

> Seriously, since I've added that filter, plus his name in the subject,
> it's like he doesn't even exist for me anymore.

I don't even have a clue who you guys are talking about. I killfile
crossposts to more than three groups on RFC and that cuts down on a lot of
crap.

--

-Jeff B.
zoomie at fastmail dot fm

Ranee Mueller wrote:

> In article >,
> Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > I have a special dislike for those assholes who keep changing
> > names to sneak past filters that were installed just for them. When I got sick
> > of Chung I plonked him.
>
> I just used the name chung so it didn't matter what the email address
> was. If the from line includes anything at all that says chung, it's
> history.

There is an username Andrew something posting from the same domain, and since that
is his first name I assumed it was a name shift. "Andrew" is stuck on the same
stupid rhetoric, but having omitted the the filtered Chung it came through....
temporarily.
I have no tolerance for name shifting *******s.

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> I'm trying to get it all figured out. There are things that Agent
> does that I really like, and I can't find a way to accomplish them
> with Dialog. I'll keep plugging away until I completely run out of
> brain cells.

1. See
<http://www.40tude.com/dialog/wiki/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions>.

2. Ask questions in <news:news.software.readers>.

3. Just explore the menus and the buttons and play with them - I have
hitherto been able to figure out every single programme on any platform
I've ever dealt with.

4. RTFM

Bubba

Steve Wertz > wrote:

> Now that I use IMAP and not Agent for email, I could probably
> switch to dialog. If I can get it run under Linux/Wine.

Seen this?
<http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/...nder-Linux-HOW
TO/dialog.html>

Victor