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wizzzer@hotmail.com 07-04-2006 12:11 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
Do you have to do that?
I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
lemons.


Nancy Young[_1_] 07-04-2006 12:15 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

> wrote

> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> Do you have to do that?
> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> lemons.


If you're using bottled lemon juice, you'll want the zest
flavor more than ever. And make sure you only grate
the yellow part, none of the white.

nancy



Dave Smith[_1_] 07-04-2006 12:17 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
wrote:

> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> Do you have to do that?
> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> lemons.


The zest gives it a nice flavour. Real lemon (not registered trademark
Realemon) and lemon zest is better than the bottled stuff.




Lefty[_1_] 07-04-2006 02:03 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote
>
> > What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> > Do you have to do that?
> > I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> > lemons.

>
> If you're using bottled lemon juice, you'll want the zest
> flavor more than ever. And make sure you only grate
> the yellow part, none of the white.
>
> nancy


You grind the Zest Soap in there to make the meringue bubbly, right? See
there, I'm learning again.:-)
--
Lefty

Life is for learning
The worst I ever had was wonderful>
>




Wayne Boatwright[_1_] 07-04-2006 02:10 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
On Thu 06 Apr 2006 04:11:06p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?

> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> Do you have to do that?
> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> lemons.


I would never even consider making a Lemon Meringue Pie without fresh lemons,
both for juice and zest. Bottled juice just isn't the same, and the rind
release essential oils that contribute greatly to the flavor. Not being
snobbish here, but I just like really good LMP.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

Chris Marksberry 07-04-2006 02:19 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Lefty" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > > wrote
> >
> > > What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> > > Do you have to do that?
> > > I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy

some
> > > lemons.

> >
> > If you're using bottled lemon juice, you'll want the zest
> > flavor more than ever. And make sure you only grate
> > the yellow part, none of the white.
> >
> > nancy

>
> You grind the Zest Soap in there to make the meringue bubbly, right? See
> there, I'm learning again.:-)
> --
> Lefty


You would grind in Zest soap only if you need a substitute for
coriander/cilantro <g>

Chris in Pearland, TX



Nancy Young[_1_] 07-04-2006 02:26 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Chris Marksberry" > wrote

> "Lefty" > wrote


>> You grind the Zest Soap in there to make the meringue bubbly, right? See
>> there, I'm learning again.:-)


> You would grind in Zest soap only if you need a substitute for
> coriander/cilantro <g>


(laugh!) That was a good one.

nancy



lucyspoileddog@yahoo.com 07-04-2006 02:32 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

Chris Marksberry wrote:
> You would grind in Zest soap only if you need a substitute for
> coriander/cilantro <g>
>
> Chris in Pearland, TX


Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

Sandy


Nancy Young[_1_] 07-04-2006 02:45 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

> wrote

> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!


You are so not alone, sistah.

nancy



Sheldon 07-04-2006 02:50 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?
>
> > What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> > Do you have to do that?
> > I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> > lemons.

>
> I would never even consider making a Lemon Meringue Pie without fresh lemons,
> both for juice and zest. Bottled juice just isn't the same, and the rind
> release essential oils that contribute greatly to the flavor. Not being
> snobbish here, but I just like really good LMP.


That's true... if you're not going to use real lemons may as well serve
lemon jello with cool whip.

Sheldon


elaine[_1_] 07-04-2006 03:10 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

> wrote
>
>> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>
> You are so not alone, sistah.
>
> nancy


It does take some getting used to. But really - if you persevere - it's
ok......... Honest!

Elaine



Chris Marksberry 07-04-2006 03:11 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote
>
> > Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
> > not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>
> You are so not alone, sistah.
>
> nancy
>
>

Perhaps ya'll would like to join CCAC (Concerned Citizens Against Cilantro).
I'm a card-carrying member!

Chris in Pearland, TX



elaine[_1_] 07-04-2006 03:13 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 


--
E.
"Sheldon" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?
>>
>> > What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
>> > Do you have to do that?
>> > I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
>> > lemons.

>>
>> I would never even consider making a Lemon Meringue Pie without fresh
>> lemons,
>> both for juice and zest. Bottled juice just isn't the same, and the rind
>> release essential oils that contribute greatly to the flavor. Not being
>> snobbish here, but I just like really good LMP.

>
> That's true... if you're not going to use real lemons may as well serve
> lemon jello with cool whip.
>
> Sheldon
>

Even though I don't like lemon meringue pie, it is the one dessert I make a
lot. I wouldn't even think of making it without lemon zest and fresh
lemons.

Elaine



jay 07-04-2006 03:42 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 02:11:53 +0000, Chris Marksberry wrote:

>
> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> > wrote
>>
>> > Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>> > not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>>
>> You are so not alone, sistah.
>>
>> nancy
>>
>>

> Perhaps ya'll would like to join CCAC (Concerned Citizens Against Cilantro).
> I'm a card-carrying member!
>
> Chris in Pearland, TX


Are taste bud the second thing to go or is the first. <LOL>

Are pears in season yet?

Cilantro rules!!



Nancy Young[_1_] 07-04-2006 03:47 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Chris Marksberry" > wrote

> "Nancy Young" > wrote


>> You are so not alone, sistah.


> Perhaps ya'll would like to join CCAC (Concerned Citizens Against
> Cilantro).
> I'm a card-carrying member!


You know, I like that. CCAC is sorta like the noise I
make when I taste the stuff. We could warn people about
dishes with cilantro, point them out in our weekly newsletter,
Soap Dish. The guacamole at Jose's? Warning, it's a Soap Dish.
Like that.

nancy



Jo Anne Slaven 07-04-2006 04:06 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
On 6 Apr 2006 18:32:48 -0700, wrote:

>
>Chris Marksberry wrote:
>> You would grind in Zest soap only if you need a substitute for
>> coriander/cilantro <g>
>>
>> Chris in Pearland, TX

>
>Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!


Don't worry - there's a whole bunch of us that feel that way.

Jo Anne

Dave Smith[_1_] 07-04-2006 04:08 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
Nancy Young wrote:

> > wrote
>
> > Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
> > not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>
> You are so not alone, sistah.


I always thought it tastes more like copper. I like it. My wife does not.



Dave Smith[_1_] 07-04-2006 04:11 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
elaine wrote:

> Even though I don't like lemon meringue pie, it is the one dessert I make a
> lot. I wouldn't even think of making it without lemon zest and fresh
> lemons.


My father in law was easy to please when it came to dessert. The only things he
really liked were ice cream and chocolate sauce or apple pie (warm) with ice
cream. I heard many times about the time they had dinner at a friend's house
and the wife served lemon meringue pie. He didn't like it, but trying to be a
good guest he raved about it. Bad move. Because he had raved about it so much
she served it every time they ate there.



Wayne Boatwright[_1_] 07-04-2006 04:31 AM

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On Thu 06 Apr 2006 08:05:36p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Freight Train
Jones?

>
> Sheldon wrote:
> <snip whatever>
>
> you're nasty
>
> I saw you entertaining those nasty troll posts
>
> you was a part of it
>


<SNICKER>

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

Bob (this one) 07-04-2006 04:58 AM

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Chris Marksberry wrote:
> "Lefty" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> "Nancy Young" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> > wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie
>>>> filling? Do you have to do that? I have a whole bottle of lemon
>>>> juice. I'd rather use that than buy some lemons.
>>>
>>> If you're using bottled lemon juice, you'll want the zest flavor
>>> more than ever. And make sure you only grate the yellow part,
>>> none of the white.
>>>
>>> nancy

>>
>> You grind the Zest Soap in there to make the meringue bubbly,
>> right? See there, I'm learning again.:-) -- Lefty

>
> You would grind in Zest soap only if you need a substitute for
> coriander/cilantro <g>


Exactly. It's a genetic thing and not simply an opinion. A significant
percentage of the world's population tastes cilantro as "soapy," me
among them.

People tell me to keep trying it so that it won't taste so bad in the
future. My attitude is "I don't like it. Why would I force myself to eat
something that tastes really bad to me? So it tastes *less* bad? Excuse
me...?"

A couple drops of dish detergent or hand cleaner will work as well if
you don't have bar soap in the house.

As for the pie, you want the lemon oil that lives in the zest. It adds
depth to the lemon flavor.

Pastorio

ntantiques 07-04-2006 08:13 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 06 Apr 2006 04:11:06p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?


> I would never even consider making a Lemon Meringue Pie without fresh lemons,
> both for juice and zest. Bottled juice just isn't the same, and the rind
> release essential oils that contribute greatly to the flavor. Not being
> snobbish here, but I just like really good LMP.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬


Although he is quite fond of me, I'm pretty sure DH would trade me in
if I ever presented him with a Lemon Meringue Pie made with bottled
juice and no lemon rind. Finely grated rind is essential for a good
lemon pie. That bottled lemon juice is just nasty stuff...almost as
yucky as cilantro.
Nancy T


Viviane[_1_] 07-04-2006 12:01 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
Thank goodness for some common sense. I thought I was living in a parallel
universe to hear about people making lemon meringue pie with lemon juice out
of a bottle and others buying lemon oil to make it taste like lemon.
Funnily enough, if I want something to taste like lemon I use lemons. I was
beginning to think that sort of rationale had gone out with the ark until I
read your post. It has restored my faith in lemon meringue pie lovers.

"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote in message
28.19...
> On Thu 06 Apr 2006 04:11:06p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ?
>
>> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
>> Do you have to do that?
>> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
>> lemons.

>
> I would never even consider making a Lemon Meringue Pie without fresh
> lemons,
> both for juice and zest. Bottled juice just isn't the same, and the rind
> release essential oils that contribute greatly to the flavor. Not being
> snobbish here, but I just like really good LMP.
>
> --
> Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
> _____________________




lucyspoileddog@yahoo.com 07-04-2006 05:19 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

elaine wrote:
> > wrote
> >
> >> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
> >> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!


> It does take some getting used to. But really - if you persevere - it's
> ok......... Honest!
>
> Elaine


I don't refuse to eat something that has cilantro in it, but I don't
enjoy it now any more than I did 20 years ago. You won't find me using
it in my own cooking...soap is soap and does not belong in food, thanks
very much.

I have aquired a taste for certain foods as an adult that I hated as a
child. Love mushrooms now, and although they still taste the same as
they did when I was a kid, I've developed an appreciation of them.

Sandy


Bob (this one) 07-04-2006 07:17 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
Viviane wrote:

> Funnily enough, if I want something to taste like lemon I use lemons.


<slaps forehead> Why didn't think of that? <G>

Exactly. Use lemons for a lemony taste. Great idea.

I dimly recall some orange-flavored drink commercials years ago that
boasted that their part-juice tasted better than plain orange juice
because it was loaded with "flavor enhancers." Like a reviewer once said
about McDonald's milkshakes, "Taste better than the real thing."

Ya gotta wonder if everybody in the production and promotion lines
believe that stuff.

Pastorio

serene 08-04-2006 01:19 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 22:10:10 -0400, "elaine" > wrote:

>
> > wrote
>>
>>> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>>> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>>
>> You are so not alone, sistah.
>>
>> nancy

>
>It does take some getting used to. But really - if you persevere - it's
>ok......... Honest!


Nope. Some people are genetically inclined to taste cilantro as soapy.
That's not going to change for them.

serene

Syssi 08-04-2006 07:11 PM

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"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote
>
>> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>
> You are so not alone, sistah.
>
> nancy =============


I dunno. I think soap tastes better. Ewww! You know, until I had a bad
batch of Bean Soup (too much cilantro made it bad).. I used to like it.
Now... ewwwwwww. Nope. Icky stuff.

--
Syssi



Syssi 08-04-2006 07:14 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>> > wrote
>>
>> > Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>> > not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>>
>> You are so not alone, sistah.

>
> I always thought it tastes more like copper. I like it. My wife does not.
>
>============


Yep. Those have been my thoughts too! Not so much soapy in flavor but more
metallic. Copper. That's it! Thank you!!!


--
Syssi



CHI-MUM 09-04-2006 08:03 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
> Do you have to do that?
> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
> lemons.
>

Don't do it! If you want quick and easy use a Jello lemon meringue pie
filling.

If you're making it from scratch use real lemon juice and the grated
rind.

MoM



CHI-MUM 09-04-2006 08:05 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote
>
>> Chris, it gives me great (or perhaps grate) pleasure to know that I'm
>> not the only one on the planet to think that cilantro tastes like soap!

>
> You are so not alone, sistah.
>
> nancy
>

And what is this thing with some restaurants sprinkling dill on
everything. Ruined a perfectly good dinner. Yuk, musty dill.

MoM



Bob (this one) 20-04-2006 01:44 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
Arthur wrote:
> CHI-MUM wrote:
>> > wrote
>>
>>> What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
>>> Do you have to do that?
>>> I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
>>> lemons.
>>>

>>
>> Don't do it! If you want quick and easy use a Jello lemon meringue
>> pie filling.
>>
>> If you're making it from scratch use real lemon juice and the grated
>> rind.
>>
>> MoM
>>

> I've recently discovered that the pretty lemons and limes in my grocery
> stores are coated with some sort of "edible" carnuba or beeswax product.
> No one seems to worry about it. I try to scrub those lemons whose rind I
> plan to use, but, since the stuff is waterproof, I wonder what I am
> accomplishing. Anyone which thoughts on this matter??


Warm water, a brush, and a minute's rubbing and will get most of it off.

Pastorio

Dee Randall 23-04-2006 05:20 PM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 

"RsH" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Arthur wrote:
>
>> I've recently discovered that the pretty lemons and limes in my grocery
>> stores are coated with some sort of "edible" carnuba or beeswax product.
>> No one seems to worry about it. I try to scrub those lemons whose rind I
>> plan to use, but, since the stuff is waterproof, I wonder what I am
>> accomplishing. Anyone which thoughts on this matter??
>>
>> Art

>
> Carnuba wax is used on lots of foods... Jelly beans, for example, shine
> because they are all coated with it. It is edible and virtually
> tasteless, and is a finish protector or sealer, if you will. Don't
> bother scrubbing, and simply ignore that it has been used. Its been
> used since the beginning of last century, at a minimum, and we are
> still ingesting...
>
> FWIW
>
> RsH


Countering:
To say that it has been used for the last century does not mean that it has
caused no bodily harm. Until studies are done on each and every product
that people in good faith say that causes no harm, it's impossible to say
with certainty.
FWIW
Dee Dee



Dee Randall 23-04-2006 08:28 PM

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"graham" > wrote in message
news:OjO2g.62164$P01.2100@pd7tw3no...
>
> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "RsH" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> Arthur wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've recently discovered that the pretty lemons and limes in my grocery
>>>> stores are coated with some sort of "edible" carnuba or beeswax
>>>> product.
>>>> No one seems to worry about it. I try to scrub those lemons whose rind
>>>> I
>>>> plan to use, but, since the stuff is waterproof, I wonder what I am
>>>> accomplishing. Anyone which thoughts on this matter??
>>>>
>>>> Art
>>>
>>> Carnuba wax is used on lots of foods... Jelly beans, for example, shine
>>> because they are all coated with it. It is edible and virtually
>>> tasteless, and is a finish protector or sealer, if you will. Don't
>>> bother scrubbing, and simply ignore that it has been used. Its been
>>> used since the beginning of last century, at a minimum, and we are
>>> still ingesting...
>>>
>>> FWIW
>>>
>>> RsH

>>
>> Countering:
>> To say that it has been used for the last century does not mean that it
>> has caused no bodily harm. Until studies are done on each and every
>> product that people in good faith say that causes no harm, it's
>> impossible to say with certainty.
>> FWIW
>> Dee Dee

> Agreed, Dee. However, think of all the M'nMs eaten!
> http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e903.htm
> Graham

Very interesting, Graham. Thank you.
I've not eaten my share of M&M's, but I did stop chewing gum years ago when
I got terribly allergic to a certain brand, won't name it -- big sores! And
stopped using make-up years ago. Didn't agree with my skin.

Interesting - used on/in coffee - wonder what's that's all about.
Dee Dee



pltrgyst[_1_] 23-04-2006 09:31 PM

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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:20:53 -0400, "Dee Randall" > wrote:

>Countering:
>To say that it has been used for the last century does not mean that it has
>caused no bodily harm. Until studies are done on each and every product
>that people in good faith say that causes no harm, it's impossible to say
>with certainty.


That is true of every single thing you eat. You're going to get awfully hungry
if you wait until all those tests have been completed.

-- Larry


Dee Randall 23-04-2006 09:44 PM

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"pltrgyst" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:20:53 -0400, "Dee Randall" >
> wrote:
>
>>Countering:
>>To say that it has been used for the last century does not mean that it
>>has
>>caused no bodily harm. Until studies are done on each and every product
>>that people in good faith say that causes no harm, it's impossible to say
>>with certainty.

>
> That is true of every single thing you eat. You're going to get awfully
> hungry
> if you wait until all those tests have been completed.
>
> -- Larry


I use common sense and eat food like everyone else. Wax was the topic of
consideration I was addressing. Wax, wax, wax (:-))Dee Dee



a 17-05-2006 11:37 AM

lemon meringue pie - do you need the rind?
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 01:39:55 GMT, Arthur > wrote:

>CHI-MUM wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>
>>>What is the reason for grating the lemon rind to make the pie filling?
>>>Do you have to do that?
>>>I have a whole bottle of lemon juice. I'd rather use that than buy some
>>>lemons.
>>>

>>
>> Don't do it! If you want quick and easy use a Jello lemon meringue pie
>> filling.
>>
>> If you're making it from scratch use real lemon juice and the grated
>> rind.
>>
>> MoM
>>
>>

>I've recently discovered that the pretty lemons and limes in my grocery
>stores are coated with some sort of "edible" carnuba or beeswax product.
>No one seems to worry about it. I try to scrub those lemons whose rind I
>plan to use, but, since the stuff is waterproof, I wonder what I am
>accomplishing. Anyone which thoughts on this matter??
>
>
>Art


Actually, the part that you want most (aside from the wax) is just the
outer layer called the zest. Just the yellow part contains essential
oils that will make your pie taste better. Lemon juice is okay, but
the zest is the best part.

The white layer under the yellow is not needed, and can sometimes be
bitter, and not a good bitter.


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