I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
recipes I couldn't find a description.

TIA

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"Ken Knecht" > wrote

>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.

Here you go:

http://images.google.com/images?q=pa...es+penne&hl=en

nancy

Ken Knecht wrote:
> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.

Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
pasta. But, I'm not sure.

Karen

"Ken Knecht" > schreef in bericht
...
>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
Are you familiar with Google images? It should give you a pic faster than
you can say penne.

I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

"Ken Knecht" > wrote in message
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>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> TIA

From the Ronzoni web site:

Penne Rigate Definition & Description: From the Latin for "feathers"
(reminiscent of old-fashioned quill pens) they are diagonally cut tubular
shapes with ridged surfaces. Best Uses: Versatile in size and shape, penne
takes only 6 minutes to cook! Use it in entrées, side dishes, soup, oven
bakes or cold salads. Most pasta sauces are great with penne, but thinner
sauces will cling to ridges in penne.

http://www.ronzoni.com/cooking/Pasta...N=Short+Shapes

Jke wrote:
> I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.

There's a taxonomy he

Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
"macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)

Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
pen

Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside

Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface

Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end

And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
it even more complicated than that:

http://www.foodsubs.com/PastaTubes.html

--Blair

In article >,
Ken Knecht > wrote:

> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> TIA

images.google.com - search on penne pasta
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"Ken Knecht" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Untie the two knots to email me
>
> A trillion here, a trillion there,
> pretty soon you're talking real money.


Yes. Penne is a pasta shape. What description do you need?

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"Jke" > ha scritto nel messaggio
...
>
> "Ken Knecht" > schreef in bericht
> ...
>>I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>
> Are you familiar with Google images? It should give you a pic faster than
> you can say penne.
>
> I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.
>
>

No. It is impossible . Penne are these:

http://images.google.it/images?q=pen...Cerca+immagini

They can be "lisce or rigate" (Smooth or striped).

Ziti are these:

http://images.google.it/imgres?imgur...lr%3D%26sa%3DN

They are similar to "Bucatini" but with a bigger diameter. They generally
use them not long as they are, but broken in 4" pieces.

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"Karen" > wrote in message
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>
> Ken Knecht wrote:
>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>
> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>
> Karen

Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.

Ciao
lp

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> "Karen" > wrote in message
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>>
>> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
>>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>
>> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>
>> Karen
>
> Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>
> Ciao
> lp
>

The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
plume
Pandora

Pandopa wrote:
> "Luca Pinotti"
> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots of
> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
> >>
> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>
> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
> plume
> Pandora

Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
pencil.

M-W

pen
noun
Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
FEATHER
1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
a : QUILL
---


Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
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>
> Pandopa wrote:
>> "Luca Pinotti"
>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing lots
>> >>> of
>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>> >>
>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>
>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
>> plume
>> Pandora
>
> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
> pencil.

Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
"Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.


> pen
> noun
> Etymology: Middle English penne, from Middle French, feather, pen, from
> Latin penna, pinna feather; akin to Greek pteron wing -- more at
> FEATHER
> 1 : an implement for writing or drawing with ink or a similar fluid: as
> a : QUILL

Pencil
from L. penicillus "paintbrush, pencil," lit. "little tail," dim. of
peniculus "brush," itself a dim. of penis "tail"

Luca

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>> Pandopa wrote:
>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>> >>> lots of
>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>> >>
>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>
>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
>>> plume
>>> Pandora
>>
>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>> pencil.

>
> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
> italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.

I meant stilographic pen

Ciao
Pandora

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>>>
>>> Pandopa wrote:
>>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>>> >>> lots of
>>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>>
>>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to a
>>>> plume
>>>> Pandora
>>>
>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>> pencil.
>
>>
>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence the
>> italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>
> I meant stilographic pen

Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Ciao
Luca

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>>>>
>>>> Pandopa wrote:
>>>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>>>> >>> lots of
>>>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>>>
>>>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to
>>>>> a
>>>>> plume
>>>>> Pandora
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>> pencil.
>>
>>>
>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>
>> I meant stilographic pen
>
> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
> there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)

Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
ciao
Pandora

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>>>>>
>>>>> Pandopa wrote:
>>>>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>>>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>>>>> >>> lots of
>>>>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>>>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>>>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not to
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> plume
>>>>>> Pandora
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not yet
>>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that particular
>>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>>> pencil.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
>>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>>>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>>
>>> I meant stilographic pen
>>
>> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
>> there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
>
> Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
> Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?


Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)

Ciao
Luca

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>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pandopa wrote:
>>>>>>> "Luca Pinotti"
>>>>>>> >> Ken Knecht wrote:
>>>>>>> >>> I assume it's a pasta shape. I looked in Google but while seeing
>>>>>>> >>> lots of
>>>>>>> >>> recipes I couldn't find a description.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Penne means pen (or pencil), I think, and that's the shape of the
>>>>>>> >> pasta. But, I'm not sure.
>>>>>>> > Penna (penne pl.): feather, plume, pen, quill.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The shape of pasta "penne" it's more similar to a pen (pencil) not
>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> plume
>>>>>>> Pandora
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>>>>> particular
>>>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>>>> pencil.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in 1795.
>>>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>>>>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>>>
>>>> I meant stilographic pen
>>>
>>> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850 although
>>> there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
>>
>> Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
>> Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
>
>
> Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
> I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)

Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma sono
romana.
BTW I meant investigations on penne
cheers
Pandora

"Pandora" > wrote in message
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>
>>>>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>>>>> pencil.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in
>>>>>> 1795.
>>>>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus [hence
>>>>>> the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant stilographic pen
>>>>
>>>> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850
>>>> although there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
>>> Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
>>
>>
>> Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
>> I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)
>
> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma
> sono romana.

You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
regions :-)

> BTW I meant investigations on penne

What else to know? Penne were first made in Gragnano (Naples) between 1600
and 1800. There's no patend pending and no offficial birth date ;-)

Ciao
Luca

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> "Pandora" > wrote in message
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>>
>>>>>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume, a
>>>>>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>>>>>> pencil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in
>>>>>>> 1795.
>>>>>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus
>>>>>>> [hence the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more acient.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant stilographic pen
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850
>>>>> although there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
>>>> Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
>>>
>>>
>>> Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
>>> I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)
>>
>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma
>> sono romana.
>
> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
> regions :-)

Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well known
here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no favours by
attacking her before you even know her as we do

Ophelia
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>
> "Luca Pinotti"
>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
>> regions :-)
>
> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well known
> here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no favours by
> attacking her before you even know her as we do

Thank you , Ophelia, for the beloved !
I love you too
Pandora

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> "Luca Pinotti"
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> wrote in message ...
>> "Pandora" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. Penne is so named because it is representitive of a plume,
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> quill pen (a pen made from a feather)... the modern pencil had not
>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>> been invented at the time of the penne designation for that
>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>> pasta configuration. I'll let yoose investigate the etymology for
>>>>>>>>> pencil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correct. The pencil (wooden sheath and graphite) was invented in
>>>>>>>> 1795.
>>>>>>>> "Goose pen" (feather with properly cut hollow shaft or calamus
>>>>>>>> [hence the italian word "calamaio" for ink pot]) is far more
>>>>>>>> acient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I meant stilographic pen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh gosh... The fountain pen (as we know it today) is dated 1850
>>>>>> although there are examples dated 960 AD. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you will find something else, after your investigation.
>>>>> Are you writing from Italy or do you live in Usa?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Investigation on what? Penne or pens?
>>>> I live in Italy. You should argue it from by poor English ;-)
>>>
>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma
>>> sono romana.
>>
>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least 7
>> regions :-)
>
> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well known
> here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no favours by
> attacking her before you even know her as we do

Sorry, who's attacking who???
I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.

Please read again and do some simple math.

Ciao
Luca

>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino ma
>>>> sono romana.
>>>
>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least
>>> 7 regions :-)
>>
>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no favours
>> by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>
> Sorry, who's attacking who???
> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>
> Please read again and do some simple math.
>
> Ciao
> Luca
Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2 = ????
Oh, Well --

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>>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino
>>>>> ma sono romana.
>>>>
>>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>>>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at least
>>>> 7 regions :-)
>>>
>>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no
>>> favours by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>>
>> Sorry, who's attacking who???
>> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>>
>> Please read again and do some simple math.
>>
>> Ciao
>> Luca
> Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2 =
> ????
> Oh, Well --

Geez... You're smart! ;-)

lp

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> "Dee Randall" > wrote in message
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>>>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino
>>>>>> ma sono romana.
>>>>>
>>>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>>>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>>>>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at
>>>>> least 7 regions :-)
>>>>
>>>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>>>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no
>>>> favours by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>>>
>>> Sorry, who's attacking who???
>>> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>>>
>>> Please read again and do some simple math.
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Luca
>> Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2 =
>> ????
>> Oh, Well --
>
> Geez... You're smart! ;-)

A little more respect for the Queens of this newsgroup please )

Sheldon wrote:
> Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> > Jke wrote:
> > > I am under the *impression* penne may be marketed as ziti in the USA.
> >
> > There's a taxonomy he
> >
> > Ziti: straight macaroni with a medium diameter (smaller is just
> > "macaroni" and bigger gets into the "manicotti" and "canneloni" range)
> >
> > Penne or Penne Ziti: Ziti with the ends cut obliquely, like a quill
> > pen
> >
> > Penne Rigate: Penne with ridges on the outside
> >
> > Penne Lisce: Penne with a non-ridged surface
> >
> > Rigatoni: Ziti with ridges on the outside and a straight-cut end
> >
> > And, oh yeah, a couple of thousand years of spaghetti bending has made
> > it even more complicated than that:
>
> Thousands, try about 100 years... it was only a little more than 120
> years ago that the first extruded/tubular pasta was made.... previously
> the 'talians made only cut flat pasta (cut by knife and wires), not
> even 'ghettis were dreamed up yet. Of course for thousands of years
> the orientals produced long noodles entirely by hand, using no tools
> whatsoever, by intricate stretching techniques. The first pasta
> extrusion dies were made in trhe US in 1903.

Sheldon you ignorant burger flipper.

http://international.loc.gov/cgi-bin...+@lit(mcc/027))

Note clear depiction of extrusion at bottom of machine.

The first mention of the word "spaghetti" in /english/ was in 1849.
Who knows how long the Italians were using the words spaghetti
("string") and spago ("cord") to refer to long, thin noodles before
that.

You are so ****ing sad.

--Blair

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>>>>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino Torino
>>>>>>> ma sono romana.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>>>>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not to
>>>>>> mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at
>>>>>> least 7 regions :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>>>>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no
>>>>> favours by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, who's attacking who???
>>>> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>>>>
>>>> Please read again and do some simple math.
>>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>> Luca
>>> Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2 =
>>> ????
>>> Oh, Well --
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>> Geez... You're smart! ;-)
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> A little more respect for the Queens of this newsgroup please )
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Opheliaaaaa! You make me blush !!!!!!!!! Thank you for the honour
Tomorrow at 5 o'clock we can take a tea together..I will wait for you!
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>>>>>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>>>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino
>>>>>>>> Torino ma sono romana.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends? ;-)
>>>>>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not
>>>>>>> to mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover at
>>>>>>> least 7 regions :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>>>>>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no
>>>>>> favours by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, who's attacking who???
>>>>> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read again and do some simple math.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciao
>>>>> Luca
>>>> Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2 =
>>>> ????
>>>> Oh, Well --
>>>
>>> Geez... You're smart! ;-)
>>
>> A little more respect for the Queens of this newsgroup please )
>>
>
> Opheliaaaaa! You make me blush !!!!!!!!! Thank you for the honour
> Tomorrow at 5 o'clock we can take a tea together..I will wait for you!

I shall bring cakes)

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>>>>>>>>> Perchè non hai visto come scrivo io
>>>>>>>>> In quale regione ti trovi dell'Italia? Io in Piemonte, vicino
>>>>>>>>> Torino ma sono romana.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You too trying to teach italian cuisine to our American friends?
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>> I'm from Milan. Thus, with my friends from Naples and Taranto (not
>>>>>>>> to mention the ones from Tuscany, Emilia and Veneto) we can cover
>>>>>>>> at least 7 regions :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well bully for you!!! If you would like to know it, Pandora is well
>>>>>>> known here and well loved by some of us too You do yourself no
>>>>>>> favours by attacking her before you even know her as we do
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, who's attacking who???
>>>>>> I've been misunderstood... I was suggesting a collaboration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please read again and do some simple math.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ciao
>>>>>> Luca
>>>>> Dee Dee -- removing gloves - looking at fingers and pausing -- 2 + 2
>>>>> = ????
>>>>> Oh, Well --
>>>>
>>>> Geez... You're smart! ;-)
>>>
>>> A little more respect for the Queens of this newsgroup please )
>>>
>>
>> Opheliaaaaa! You make me blush !!!!!!!!! Thank you for the honour
>> Tomorrow at 5 o'clock we can take a tea together..I will wait for you!
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> I shall bring cakes)

yes please. I love english cakes
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