mdginzo wrote:
> >I spent months checking google and Medline, which is how I know >there
> >isn't a single one.
>
> >If they're so easy to find, with documented evidence, then post them.
>
> Jesus, if you are that stupid that you cannot punch in Atkins and
> "kidney scarring" into a Google box then I will just dismiss you.


I don't think it matters whether she can punch it in or not, as
everything brought up by Google is opinion in her opinion [heh]. Except
for her opinion that the authors of scientific studies showing a link
between kidney damage in diabetics and high protein diets are making up
conclusions rather than analyzing the data. Yet another national
scandal to break the surface on usenet.


V.
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Vernoique Chez Sheep

"Veronique" > writes:


>mdginzo wrote:
>> >I spent months checking google and Medline, which is how I know >there
>> >isn't a single one.
>>
>> >If they're so easy to find, with documented evidence, then post them.
>>
>> Jesus, if you are that stupid that you cannot punch in Atkins and
>> "kidney scarring" into a Google box then I will just dismiss you.


>I don't think it matters whether she can punch it in or not, as
>everything brought up by Google is opinion in her opinion [heh]. Except
>for her opinion that the authors of scientific studies showing a link
>between kidney damage in diabetics and high protein diets are making up
>conclusions rather than analyzing the data. Yet another national
>scandal to break the surface on usenet.

To be fair, the study shows accelerated kidney damage at the limit
of statistical significance (just enough correlation to say there's
correlation); they suspect but don't demonstrate causation, although
of course the future kidney damage can't cause someone to go on a
high-protein diet. Also the Atkins diet is supposedly high-fat but
not high-protein, although the Atkins company says it's high-protein.

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Joseph Michael Bay wrote:

> "Veronique" > writes:
>
>
>
>>mdginzo wrote:
>>
>>>>I spent months checking google and Medline, which is how I know >there
>>>>isn't a single one.
>>>
>>>>If they're so easy to find, with documented evidence, then post them.
>>>
>>>Jesus, if you are that stupid that you cannot punch in Atkins and
>>>"kidney scarring" into a Google box then I will just dismiss you.
>
>
>
>>I don't think it matters whether she can punch it in or not, as
>>everything brought up by Google is opinion in her opinion [heh]. Except
>>for her opinion that the authors of scientific studies showing a link
>>between kidney damage in diabetics and high protein diets are making up
>>conclusions rather than analyzing the data. Yet another national
>>scandal to break the surface on usenet.
>
>
> To be fair, the study shows accelerated kidney damage at the limit
> of statistical significance (just enough correlation to say there's
> correlation); they suspect but don't demonstrate causation, although
> of course the future kidney damage can't cause someone to go on a
> high-protein diet. Also the Atkins diet is supposedly high-fat but
> not high-protein, although the Atkins company says it's high-protein.

My rather conservate nutrition text wants you to eat a gram of protein
per kilo of body weight per day; that's pretty close to the old health
food store standard of half a gram per day per pound of body weight,
minimum. The text also says that you can eat double that with no
problems at all.

I happen to know, because I keep track, that I generally get between 100
and 125 grams of protein per day. So I'm not on what that nutrition
text would consider a seriously high-protein diet.

I do, however, generally get at least 60% of my calories from fat.

Dana