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in article , Ophelia at
wrote on 5/29/06 1:38 PM:

>
> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "David Brewer" > wrote in message
>>>> . uk...
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pie refers to a meat pie or similar.. and the chips (remember you
>>>>>> call
>>>> them
>>>>>> fries).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I suppose it used to be (is) a popular and easy meal, not to my
>>>>>> taste
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One can buy these from our 'fish' shops the same way we buy fish and
>>>> chips
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ophelia
>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought that Scots bought "chips and fish".
>>>>
>>>> Chip shops sell all manner of food. Fish and Chips (ie a Fish Supper)
>>>> is
>>>> the
>>>> first thing that comes to mind but there are plenty of other things on
>>>> sale.
>>>> Other suppers are haggis, white pudding, black pudding, various pies,
>>>> chiken
>>>> etc etc etc. Don't foget the deep fried Mars bars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact I
>>> make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.

>>
>> Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)

>
> LOL nor have I
>
>

Not even a Veronica Mars?

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ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
>Not even a Veronica Mars?



That at least looks like it would taste good.



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"ANIM8Rfsk" > wrote in message
...
> in article , Ophelia at
> wrote on 5/29/06 1:38 PM:
>
>>
>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "David Brewer" > wrote in message
>>>>> . uk...
>>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pie refers to a meat pie or similar.. and the chips (remember you
>>>>>>> call
>>>>> them
>>>>>>> fries).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose it used to be (is) a popular and easy meal, not to my
>>>>>>> taste
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One can buy these from our 'fish' shops the same way we buy fish and
>>>>> chips
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ophelia
>>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought that Scots bought "chips and fish".
>>>>>
>>>>> Chip shops sell all manner of food. Fish and Chips (ie a Fish Supper)
>>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>> first thing that comes to mind but there are plenty of other things on
>>>>> sale.
>>>>> Other suppers are haggis, white pudding, black pudding, various pies,
>>>>> chiken
>>>>> etc etc etc. Don't foget the deep fried Mars bars.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Allan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact
>>>> I
>>>> make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.
>>>
>>> Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)

>>
>> LOL nor have I
>>
>>

> Not even a Veronica Mars?


Allan was referring to deep fried Mars bars. I don't know what Veronica
Mars is/are.
>



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Ken from Chicago wrote:
>Tho some people are anal-retentive about NOT ... gasp ... mixing food ....
>while eating.


You would have to be really, really anal retentive to keep the foods from
mixing by that point. ;-)



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ANIM8Rfsk > wrote:

> in article , Ophelia at
> wrote on 5/29/06 1:38 PM:
>
> >
> > "allan connochie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> "CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>>
> >>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>> "David Brewer" > wrote in message
> >>>> . uk...
> >>>>> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Pie refers to a meat pie or similar.. and the chips (remember you
> >>>>>> call
> >>>> them
> >>>>>> fries).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I suppose it used to be (is) a popular and easy meal, not to my
> >>>>>> taste
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> One can buy these from our 'fish' shops the same way we buy fish and
> >>>> chips
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ophelia
> >>>>>> Scotland
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I thought that Scots bought "chips and fish".
> >>>>
> >>>> Chip shops sell all manner of food. Fish and Chips (ie a Fish Supper)
> >>>> is
> >>>> the
> >>>> first thing that comes to mind but there are plenty of other things on
> >>>> sale.
> >>>> Other suppers are haggis, white pudding, black pudding, various pies,
> >>>> chiken
> >>>> etc etc etc. Don't foget the deep fried Mars bars.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Allan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact I
> >>> make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.
> >>
> >> Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)

> >
> > LOL nor have I
> >
> >

> Not even a Veronica Mars?
>

Not deep fried!?!?!?!?!?1/


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"CHI-MUM" > wrote in
:

>
> "Seymour Bigby-Heinz" -stuff> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 28 May 2006 15:47:06 GMT, LucasP > wrote:
>>
>>>I really wish these Yanks would stop thinking that their
>>>language/culture is the be all to end all.

>>
>> Don't be such a bitter little fart. That's probably why your American
>> wife dumped your pathetic arse.
>>
>> Sy

>
> The world is a melting pot. I'm a Scot. My hubby is a Sassenach.


LOL!!!

Sassenach..........

A Gaelic expression meaning 'Saxon', usually used abusively by Scots and
Irish people to refer to the English.

http://www.movinghere.org.uk/help/glossary.htm


>We
> eat Canadian, Us, Indian, Scots, German and probably others I can't
> recall. Food, that is.
>



I'm glad you clarified that one!!

But don't those Yanks get tetchy when you tell them that they aren't the
be all to end all, hey??!! :-)


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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
.uk...

> Allan was referring to deep fried Mars bars. I don't know what Veronica
> Mars is/are.


http://veronica-mars.org/

Ian


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in article , Mark Nobles at
wrote on 5/29/06 2:48 PM:

> ANIM8Rfsk > wrote:
>
>> in article , Ophelia at
>>
wrote on 5/29/06 1:38 PM:
>>
>>>
>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "David Brewer" > wrote in message
>>>>>> . uk...
>>>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pie refers to a meat pie or similar.. and the chips (remember you
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> fries).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose it used to be (is) a popular and easy meal, not to my
>>>>>>>> taste
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One can buy these from our 'fish' shops the same way we buy fish and
>>>>>> chips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ophelia
>>>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that Scots bought "chips and fish".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chip shops sell all manner of food. Fish and Chips (ie a Fish Supper)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first thing that comes to mind but there are plenty of other things on
>>>>>> sale.
>>>>>> Other suppers are haggis, white pudding, black pudding, various pies,
>>>>>> chiken
>>>>>> etc etc etc. Don't foget the deep fried Mars bars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact I
>>>>> make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.
>>>>
>>>> Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)
>>>
>>> LOL nor have I
>>>
>>>

>> Not even a Veronica Mars?
>>

> Not deep fried!?!?!?!?!?1/


Deep frying is the only way Kristen Bell could get any hotter!

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in article , Ophelia at
wrote on 5/29/06 2:44 PM:

>
> "ANIM8Rfsk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in article , Ophelia at
>>
wrote on 5/29/06 1:38 PM:
>>
>>>
>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> "allan connochie" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "David Brewer" > wrote in message
>>>>>> . uk...
>>>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pie refers to a meat pie or similar.. and the chips (remember you
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> fries).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose it used to be (is) a popular and easy meal, not to my
>>>>>>>> taste
>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One can buy these from our 'fish' shops the same way we buy fish and
>>>>>> chips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ophelia
>>>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that Scots bought "chips and fish".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chip shops sell all manner of food. Fish and Chips (ie a Fish Supper)
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> first thing that comes to mind but there are plenty of other things on
>>>>>> sale.
>>>>>> Other suppers are haggis, white pudding, black pudding, various pies,
>>>>>> chiken
>>>>>> etc etc etc. Don't foget the deep fried Mars bars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Naw, it's Fish and Chips! But Pie and chips are popular too. In fact
>>>>> I
>>>>> make them for my hubby. To high cholesterol for me.
>>>>
>>>> Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)
>>>
>>> LOL nor have I
>>>
>>>

>> Not even a Veronica Mars?

>
> Allan was referring to deep fried Mars bars. I don't know what Veronica
> Mars is/are.


An excellent TV show, for those reading this in rec.arts.tv :-)

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On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:18:37 +0100, "allan connochie"
> wrote:

>Like you I prefer fish and can safely say I've never tried a mars :-)


You don't know what you're missing out on!
--
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DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com
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"Obveeus" > wrote in message ...
>
> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>Tho some people are anal-retentive about NOT ... gasp ... mixing food ....
>>while eating.

>
> You would have to be really, really anal retentive to keep the foods from
> mixing by that point. ;-)
>
>
>
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"Ian F." > wrote in message
...
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> .uk...
>
>> Allan was referring to deep fried Mars bars. I don't know what Veronica
>> Mars is/are.

>
> http://veronica-mars.org/


Ah thank you)


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"CHI-MUM" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Seymour Bigby-Heinz" -stuff> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 28 May 2006 15:47:06 GMT, LucasP > wrote:
>>
>>>I really wish these Yanks would stop thinking that their
>>>language/culture is the be all to end all.

>>
>> Don't be such a bitter little fart. That's probably why your American
>> wife dumped your pathetic arse.
>>
>> Sy

>
> The world is a melting pot. I'm a Scot. My hubby is a Sassenach. We eat
> Canadian, Us, Indian, Scots, German and probably others I can't recall.
> Food, that is.
>
> MoM


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Following up to Ophelia

>> Is that British for deep dish pizza?

>
>No it is a Scottish thing.


and Italian.
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Following up to Ken from Chicago

>> ... and deep fried pizza.....

>
>Is that British for deep dish pizza?


No, deep dish is a US abomination that you can also find in UK. I
have had a deep fried pizza on the Amalfi coast BTW.
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>Go buy a pie and chips, and find out for yourself.

>I really wish these Yanks would stop thinking that their
>language/culture is the be all to end all.


Not this Yank. "23-Skidoo" represents the high water mark of American
English. That was somewhere around the Coolidge administration, and the
language has been in a slow, painful decline ever since. I'm an
American and I don't know what the hell we're talking about sometimes.
"Whazzzzzup!!!" was our last "contribution" to the pot and that was
really more of a gutteral sound based on a short phrase than actual
english. Whazzzzzup! was intended to sell mediocre beer rather than to
communicate anything meaningful or to describe something for which
there was not an accurate word already in use. We have a president who
simply cannot speak at all without a telepromptor. We're not all proud
of the current state of the language here, believe it or not. Half the
people here in America can't even spell. And other half are Mexicans,
most of whom give every visual indication of also being borderline
illiterate, but in a different language.

"Pie and chips? Who doesn't like free pie and chips? It's pie. With
chips. For free."

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"Christopher Helms" > wrote in
oups.com:


> communicate anything meaningful or to describe something for which
> there was not an accurate word already in use. We have a president who
> simply cannot speak at all without a telepromptor. We're not all proud
> of the current state of the language here, believe it or not. Half the
> people here in America can't even spell. And other half are Mexicans,
> most of whom give every visual indication of also being borderline
> illiterate, but in a different language.
>



And lets not even *talk* about the Rap/gangsta culture!!


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savage must weep.

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> If you are trying to convince the rest of the world that Americans are a
> bunch of ignorant, stupid jackasses you are doing a great job. I hope
> they are smart enough to realize that not all of us have a 6th grade
> education and room-temperature IQ.
>
> --
> Peter Aitken


They really are just embarassingly stupid. I think they get this crap
from watching GI Jane or something.

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Following up to Geoff Miller

>If it weren't, you and so many other ******s woudn't resent us so
>much, now would you?


people dislike morons like you for what you are. On usenet its a
trait amongst Americans, lets hope you're not typical, although
looking at the man you twice voted president, its not hopeful.

>We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.


or a bunch of arrogant "red state" pillocks who screwed up
Vietnam and now Iraq?
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Peter A > blathers:

: We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.

> Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?


Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
Name one. One!

Our industrial might and military prowess won the biggest war in
ur technical and organizational skills developed the most awesome
weapon known to mankind. We can take that weapon and bomb the
living crap out of any nation on earth with airplanes taking off
from and landing at bases on our own soil, and project our might
halfway around the world with airlift, sealift or amphibious
assaults when it suits us.

And if you really **** us off, we can incinerate your entire country
a hundred times over with the push of a button. Why, we'll wipe our
collective national backside with the tattered remnants of your coun-
try's national soul. (Are you reading this, Mr. Ahmadinejad?)

But as true as all of that is, I'm not just talking about military
might. How about the economic kind? Ever heard of, say, Coca-Cola,
McDonalds, Nike, Boeing, Jeep, blue jeans, or Windows?


: And we have shitloads of nuclear weapons. When we want your
: opinion, we'll read it from your entrails. Got it, pantnoodle?

> If you are trying to convince the rest of the world that Americans
> are a bunch of ignorant, stupid jackasses you are doing a great job.


Given that everything I've said in this thread is in fact true, I'm
not quite sure I understand where ignorance or stupidity enters into
it. On _my_ side of the debate, anyway. You may recoil at forthright
declarations of all that I've said, but that hardly makes it untrue --
or me stupid or ignorant.


> I hope they are smart enough to realize that not all of us have a
> 6th grade education and room-temperature IQ.


I can'ty help noticing that I'm obviously plenty smart enough to get
you to respond, and plenty educated enough to demolish your insipid
remarks when you do.

Life is good here in the Hyperpower. God's in His Heaven, George W.
Bush is in his White House, and all's right with the world. I wonder
what the poor people are up to today...

Say, maybe there's something good on cable.




Geoff

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and isn't this falafel delicious?" -- Nathaniel Blake

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Scott en Aztlán <newsgroup> writes:

: We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet. And we
: have shitloads of nuclear weapons. When we want your opinion, we'll
: read it from your entrails. Got it, pantnoodle?

> How about "...we'll read it from the glowing iridescent slag that used
> to be your entrails and the heaps of ash that used to be your bones?"




Scott, you have the soul of a poet.




Geoff

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The Reid > writes:

: If it weren't, you and so many other ******s woudn't resent
: us so much, now would you?

> people dislike morons like you for what you are.


I'm a moron for speaking the truth?

Maybe we have more in common than you realize. You leftists
like "speaking truth to power." For my part, I like speaking
truth to anti-American wankstains.


> On usenet its a trait amongst Americans,


Well, seeing as how we *invented* Usenet and still control it,
I'd say we can exhibit pretty much any trait that we want to,
wouldn't you?


> lets hope you're not typical, although looking at the man you
> twice voted president, its not hopeful.


I voted for him both times, I'm proud to say. And he'll be in
office for the better part of three more years, so you'd best
pull your underwear out of your intellectual asscrack and settle
in for the long haul.


: We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.

> or a bunch of arrogant "red state" pillocks who screwed up
> Vietnam and now Iraq?


It was people like you, but in our country, who screwed up
Vietnam. As for Iraq, Instant Gratification Bunny, World
War II wasn't won in a week, either...but we still won.
Thanks to us, Iraq now has its first democratically-elected,
constitutional government ever.

You probably ****ed and moaned about Margaret Thatcher, too.
One of the last of the Real Men. How does it feel to be a
subject of a has-been, second-rate nation? I bet it really
twists your knickers that your position in the world has been
usurped by an upstart young nation such as mine. Tough luck,
buddy.



Geoff

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"Geoff Miller" > wrote in message
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>
>
> The Reid > writes:
>
> : If it weren't, you and so many other ******s woudn't resent
> : us so much, now would you?
>
>> people dislike morons like you for what you are.

>
> I'm a moron for speaking the truth?
>
> Maybe we have more in common than you realize. You leftists
> like "speaking truth to power." For my part, I like speaking
> truth to anti-American wankstains.
>
>
>> On usenet its a trait amongst Americans,

>
> Well, seeing as how we *invented* Usenet and still control it,
> I'd say we can exhibit pretty much any trait that we want to,
> wouldn't you?
>
>
>> lets hope you're not typical, although looking at the man you
>> twice voted president, its not hopeful.

>
> I voted for him both times, I'm proud to say. And he'll be in
> office for the better part of three more years, so you'd best
> pull your underwear out of your intellectual asscrack and settle
> in for the long haul.
>
>
> : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
>
>> or a bunch of arrogant "red state" pillocks who screwed up
>> Vietnam and now Iraq?

>
> It was people like you, but in our country, who screwed up
> Vietnam. As for Iraq, Instant Gratification Bunny, World
> War II wasn't won in a week, either...but we still won.
> Thanks to us, Iraq now has its first democratically-elected,
> constitutional government ever.
>
> You probably ****ed and moaned about Margaret Thatcher, too.
> One of the last of the Real Men. How does it feel to be a
> subject of a has-been, second-rate nation? I bet it really
> twists your knickers that your position in the world has been
> usurped by an upstart young nation such as mine. Tough luck,
> buddy.
>


> Geoff


And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see a prime example of the "Ugly
American", known and loved the world over.

Dora




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On 31 May 2006 12:44:31 -0700, (Geoff
Miller) wrote:

[...]

Sigh.......

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limey > sniffs:

[my ENTIRE POST quoted]

> And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see a prime example of
> the "Ugly American", known and loved the world over.



That's the beauty of it: the world doesn't _have_ to like us.
It only has to fear us.

Being the Hyperpower means never having to say we're sorry.

When you get a chance, snookums, pull your mommy out from
underneath that Tory MP and get her to teach you how to use
a text editor.



Geoff

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Geoff Miller wrote:

> Peter A > blathers:
>
> : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
>
> > Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?

>
> Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
> country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
> Name one. One!

<snip rest of drivel>

Shame everyone hates you really isn't it?

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Geoff Miller wrote:

> limey > sniffs:
>
> [my ENTIRE POST quoted]
>
> > And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see a prime example of
> > the "Ugly American", known and loved the world over.

>
>
> That's the beauty of it: the world doesn't _have_ to like us.
> It only has to fear us.


But you'd love to be liked too, admit it.



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"nicandal" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> > Peter A > blathers:
> >
> > : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
> >
> > > Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?

> >
> > Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
> > country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
> > Name one. One!

> <snip rest of drivel>
>
> Shame everyone hates you really isn't it?
>


It is a shame we are so hated. But I believe we can come back. With our
next election and next presidential election if we Americans stand up and
vote out the big wigs on both sides, we can easily overcome being disliked.
If there is one thing Europe in particular is good at...forgiving.

Just because we are a superpower does not mean we can not do better. And
all Americans on both sides should be working for this. And for the most
part we can. If we stop taking sides and find a workable middle ground.
Stop name calling and actually resolve issues.

Lava


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"Lava" > wrote in
k.net:

>
> "nicandal" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> Geoff Miller wrote:
>>
>> > Peter A > blathers:
>> >
>> > : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
>> >
>> > > Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?
>> >
>> > Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
>> > country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
>> > Name one. One!

>> <snip rest of drivel>
>>
>> Shame everyone hates you really isn't it?
>>

>
> It is a shame we are so hated. But I believe we can come back. With
> our next election and next presidential election if we Americans stand
> up and vote out the big wigs on both sides, we can easily overcome
> being disliked.


I'm genuinely interested.....

Who would you name as the next President?

Is there anyone worthy/intelligent enough in the running?

Hillary Clinton??


>If there is one thing Europe in particular is good
> at...forgiving.
>


LOL!! The Poms still haven't forgiven the Krauts, or the French, and
Russia hasn't forgiven *anyone*........!!!


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

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"Geoff Miller" wrote:
>
> limey wrote:
>
>> And here, ladies and gentlemen, you see a prime example of
>> the "Ugly American", known and loved the world over.


<Text editor used - garbage snipped>

> When you get a chance, snookums, pull your mommy out from
> underneath that Tory MP and get her to teach you how to use
> a text editor.


> Geoff


Since my mother is no longer alive, your remark is highly inappropriate -
and, since you didn't ask, I now live in the US and hear your kind of crap
all the time, usually from people who have never left the country. You have
a very ignorant view of the world - and of this country's supremacy in
particular. If we were so supreme, we wouldn't be universally hated, mired
down in war, lost our position as leaders in world trade, sacrificed our own
workers so that India and China could benefit, and most of all, have an
idiot in the White House. Wait - we can bomb everyone to hell! Well,
whoop-de-doo - that makes us really great. Wake up, twit.

Now, I suggest that everyone take this where it belongs, on alt.politics.




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"Geoff Miller" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Peter A > blathers:
>
> : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
>

(diatribe snipped)
Pax Romana came to an end, Pax Brittania came to an end, even Pax Sovieticus
came to an end. Pax Americanus can't last forever. Sure, under current
condition, the US military, and the US economy/culture can subvert or
destroy anything in the world. Blowing something away is easy. Holding
another country without destroying it is much harder.

The finest structures in the world succumb to the lowly termite. Stone is
eventually ground away by the wind. If and when the US falls, or merely goes
lower on empire food chain like UK did, the odds are it won't be due to an
overt outside enemy on an actual attack. It will fall like most previous
empires, from within, from lack of money or interest, or from the social
contract breaking down due to a marginalized middle class, a small uber-rich
class of haves, and a honking big crowd of have-nots.

(standard disclaimer- I hope it lasts till I am worm food, and I'm trying
very hard to not contribute to entropy.)

aem sends....


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Lava wrote:
> "nicandal" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > Geoff Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Peter A > blathers:
> > >
> > > : We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.
> > >
> > > > Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?
> > >
> > > Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
> > > country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
> > > Name one. One!

> > <snip rest of drivel>
> >
> > Shame everyone hates you really isn't it?
> >

>
> It is a shame we are so hated. But I believe we can come back. With our
> next election and next presidential election if we Americans stand up and
> vote out the big wigs on both sides, we can easily overcome being disliked.
> If there is one thing Europe in particular is good at...forgiving.
>
> Just because we are a superpower does not mean we can not do better. And
> all Americans on both sides should be working for this. And for the most
> part we can. If we stop taking sides and find a workable middle ground.
> Stop name calling and actually resolve issues.
>
> Lava


It will not happen. Bush has set us back to the dark days of Reagan--
and then some.

And there's no more "voting out" nor "voting in" people. They are all
one party- The Greed Party.

We live in a country with NO opposition party. It is a joke. The
"democrat v republican" debate is a charade- to make us think they care
about us.

And thank the U.S. corporate media (part of the problem) for not
reporting any of this-- nor exposing it.

An oligarchy. That's what the U.S. is now.

Most Americans are too naive to grasp this reality.

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ameijers wrote:
>
> Pax Romana came to an end, Pax Brittania came to an end, even Pax Sovieticus
> came to an end.


now if only the PAX network would end!!! they have the WORSE show on cable

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Geoff Miller wrote:

> Peter A wrote:
> > Geoff Miller wrote:

>
> > > We're the most dominant nation in the history of the planet.

>
> > Can anyone really be so ignorant of history?

>
> Oh? What ignorance? What history are you alluding to? So what
> country was *ever* more dominant than America is now, then?
> Name one. One!


1. The Achaemenid Empire
2. Macedonia
3. Rome
4. Mongol Empire
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"Geoff Miller" > wrote in message
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>
> --
> "Child brides and honor killings? Well, that's just their culture,
> and isn't this falafel delicious?" -- Nathaniel Blake
>

That quote isn't a very nice way to describe Texans!


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