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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> "Dee Randall" wrote:
> > "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > <RJ> wrote:
> > >> I got the container from the fridge,
> > >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > >>
> > >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > >>
> > >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> > >
> > >
> > > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > > quickly.

> >
> > Are you that sure?
> > I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> > things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach cramps
> > and diarrhea almost as soon as.

>
> That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)


Not so fast there. Produce can easily be contaminated from being grown
near to run off and animal waste. As diligent as inspectors are there
are still more than a few instances where imported produce is rife with
harmful bacteria... much produce consumed in the US comes from Mexco,
often it is grown near septic fields or in direct contact with
animal/human waste. Plenty of home gardeners in the US plant too near
a septic field, their's and/or their neighbor's. In times of heavy
spring rains and when flooding occurs much of the run off is coliform
contaminated, and therefore so are resultant crops.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub..._NO_115=131175

Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.

Sheldon

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> Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
> in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
> instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.
>
> Sheldon


That happens all the time when it rains hard enough. Some minutia isn't
worth worrying about.


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"Sheldon" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > "Dee Randall" wrote:
> > > "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > > <RJ> wrote:
> > > >> I got the container from the fridge,
> > > >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > > >>
> > > >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > > >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > > >>
> > > >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > > >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > > > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > > > quickly.
> > >
> > > Are you that sure?
> > > I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> > > things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach
> > > cramps
> > > and diarrhea almost as soon as.

> >
> > That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)

>
> Not so fast there. Produce can easily be contaminated from being grown
> near to run off and animal waste. As diligent as inspectors are there
> are still more than a few instances where imported produce is rife with
> harmful bacteria... much produce consumed in the US comes from Mexco,
> often it is grown near septic fields or in direct contact with
> animal/human waste. Plenty of home gardeners in the US plant too near
> a septic field, their's and/or their neighbor's. In times of heavy
> spring rains and when flooding occurs much of the run off is coliform
> contaminated, and therefore so are resultant crops.
>
> http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub...EQ_NO_115=1311
> 75
>
> Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
> in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
> instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.
>
> Sheldon


Um, sweetie, we were talking about TIMING here.
As a general rule (unless I guess the food you ate had a helluva
bacterial toxin load), it needs an incubation period in the intestines
to make you sick.

If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
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Peace!
Om

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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
> or is it food allergy/sensitivity?


Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
an allergy or sensitivity to get it.

All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.

http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467

Staphylococcus aureus

Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
food ingested.

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Reg > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?

>
> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
>
> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
>
> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
>
> Staphylococcus aureus
>
> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
> food ingested.


Makes sense........

Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.

I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
The brand was "Apple Tree".

That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
The can was bulging at both ends.

Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)
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Peace!
Om

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"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
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> In article > ,
> Reg > wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food
>> > poisoning
>> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?

>>
>> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
>> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
>> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
>> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
>>
>> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
>> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
>>
>> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
>>
>> Staphylococcus aureus
>>
>> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
>> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
>> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
>> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
>> food ingested.

>
> Makes sense........
>
> Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.
>
> I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> The brand was "Apple Tree".
>
> That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> The can was bulging at both ends.
>
> Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)


So, how did they taste?

;o) Rich


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"Rich" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article > ,
> > Reg > wrote:
> >
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food
> >> > poisoning
> >> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
> >>
> >> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
> >> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
> >> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
> >> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
> >>
> >> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
> >> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
> >>
> >> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
> >>
> >> Staphylococcus aureus
> >>
> >> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
> >> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
> >> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
> >> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
> >> food ingested.

> >
> > Makes sense........
> >
> > Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.
> >
> > I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> > The brand was "Apple Tree".
> >
> > That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> > The can was bulging at both ends.
> >
> > Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)

>
> So, how did they taste?
>
> ;o) Rich


<snicker> Ask the rats in the land fill.......
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Peace!
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:


> I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> The brand was "Apple Tree".
>
> That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> The can was bulging at both ends.
>
> Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)


Made canapes?

Sorry, had to.



Brian

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"Default User" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>
> > I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> > The brand was "Apple Tree".
> >
> > That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> > The can was bulging at both ends.
> >
> > Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)

>
> Made canapes?
>
> Sorry, had to.
>
>
>
> Brian


Not... ;-)

That's one thing my parents taught me at an early age.
_Never_ ever eat a can of food that is bulging. Don't
even open it.
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Peace!
Om

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