I got the container from the fridge,
and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.

Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.

Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
I pondered ; "What happened ? "

Of course, I used a cutting board
to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.

All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.

How to prevent this in the future ?
Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
Rinse the pieces in a colander ?

???


<rj>

"<RJ>" > wrote in message
...
>I got the container from the fridge,
> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>
> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>
> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
> Of course, I used a cutting board
> to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
>
> All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
> got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
>
> How to prevent this in the future ?
> Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
> Rinse the pieces in a colander ?
>
> ???


Everyone except you washes melons before cutting them. Sorry we forgot to
suggest it earlier. And no, you don't wash the pieces after you've cut the
melon.

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I got the container from the fridge,
> > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> >
> > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> >
> > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> >
> > Of course, I used a cutting board
> > to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
> >
> > All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
> > got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
> >
> > How to prevent this in the future ?
> > Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
> > Rinse the pieces in a colander ?
> >
> > ???
>
>
> Everyone except you washes melons before cutting them. Sorry we forgot to
> suggest it earlier. And no, you don't wash the pieces after you've cut the
> melon.

I also clean the board after each use......
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I got the container from the fridge,
>> > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>> >
>> > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>> >
>> > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>> >
>> > Of course, I used a cutting board
>> > to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
>> >
>> > All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
>> > got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
>> >
>> > How to prevent this in the future ?
>> > Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
>> > Rinse the pieces in a colander ?
>> >
>> > ???
>>
>>
>> Everyone except you washes melons before cutting them. Sorry we forgot to
>> suggest it earlier. And no, you don't wash the pieces after you've cut
>> the
>> melon.
>
> I also clean the board after each use......
> --
> Peace!
> Om

It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us miserable.
This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I was
like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months." The
doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or shaking
hands.

Back to the canteloupe: They grow on the ground, and are probably exposed to
juice from damaged melons during shipping or storage. Perfect for growing
germs.

<RJ> wrote:
> I got the container from the fridge,
> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>
> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>
> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
> Of course, I used a cutting board
> to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
>
> All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
> got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
>
> How to prevent this in the future ?
> Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?

Absolutely. With soap and water too.

> Rinse the pieces in a colander ?

I try to keep the knife as clean as I can when cutting it. I do not
rinse the sliced fruit.

-L.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
> It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us miserable.
> This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I was
> like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months." The
> doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or shaking
> hands.

More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.

>
> Back to the canteloupe: They grow on the ground, and are probably exposed to
> juice from damaged melons during shipping or storage. Perfect for growing
> germs.

They are also sprayed with insecticides and fungicides. Plus are
covered in bird and rodent poop, and any other critter who munches on
melons.

-L.

"-L." > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>> It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us miserable.
>> This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I was
>> like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months."
>> The
>> doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or
>> shaking
>> hands.
>
> More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.

I'd have to be near death before I'd sit on a toilet seat in a public place.
:-)

<RJ> wrote:
> I got the container from the fridge,
> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>
> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>
> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> I pondered ; "What happened ? "


"Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
quickly.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "<RJ>" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I got the container from the fridge,
>> > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>> >
>> > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>> >
>> > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>> >
>> > Of course, I used a cutting board
>> > to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
>> >
>> > All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
>> > got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
>> >
>> > How to prevent this in the future ?
>> > Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
>> > Rinse the pieces in a colander ?
>> >
>> > ???
>>
>>
>> Everyone except you washes melons before cutting them. Sorry we forgot to
>> suggest it earlier. And no, you don't wash the pieces after you've cut
>> the
>> melon.
>
> I also clean the board after each use......
> --
> Peace!
> Om

I just go thru cutting a bad melon that I bought at a stand Saturday --
there was no hint that it was bad.
But this is the way I do melons.

I sit it in the sink, run water over it, put a little liquid soap in my hand
and bath it like a baby. (Washing and rinsing my hands as I do this.)
I have a clean plastic cutting board and clean knife waiting. I cut the
melon into pieces and you will have to cut as you desire.
I, too, clean the board after use - put it in the dishwasher, wash knife by
hand.
HTH,
Dee Dee

"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> <RJ> wrote:
>> I got the container from the fridge,
>> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>>
>> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>>
>> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
>
> "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> quickly.

Are you that sure?
I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach cramps
and diarrhea almost as soon as.
Dee Dee
Dee Dee

Dee Randall wrote:
> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > <RJ> wrote:
> >> I got the container from the fridge,
> >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> >>
> >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> >>
> >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> >
> >
> > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > quickly.
>
> Are you that sure?

Yes.

> I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach cramps
> and diarrhea almost as soon as.
> Dee Dee
> Dee Dee

Your experience notwithstanding, it still doesn't mean that everything
that makes you sick makes you sick almost instantly. I put it out there
as a possibility, not a fact.

In article .com>,
"Christopher Helms" > wrote:

> <RJ> wrote:
> > I got the container from the fridge,
> > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> >
> > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> >
> > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
>
> "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> quickly.

I must agree...
When I came down with Salmonella, it was a full 8 hours before the
symptoms started.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Dee Randall" > wrote:

> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > <RJ> wrote:
> >> I got the container from the fridge,
> >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> >>
> >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> >>
> >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> >
> >
> > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > quickly.
>
> Are you that sure?
> I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach cramps
> and diarrhea almost as soon as.
> Dee Dee
> Dee Dee

That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)

Coffee is a known laxative and the stronger (and older) it is, the worse
it gets.

And it ain't the caffeine. It's the oils and acids in the coffee.

That's why the Gastroenterologist told me to give up ALL coffee, not
just regular, but decaffeinated too.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"<RJ>" > wrote in message
...
> I got the container from the fridge,
> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>
> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>
> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
> Of course, I used a cutting board
> to slice, clean, peel and dice the 'lope.
>
> All I can figure is, whatever was on the skin
> got onto the board, then onto the finished pieces.
>
> How to prevent this in the future ?
> Do YOU wash the cantaloupe before cutting ?
> Rinse the pieces in a colander ?
>

If your alimentary canal runs true to form (OK - I had too do it) that
strain of whatever probably won't be too much of a problem next time...


> ???
>
>
> <rj>

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Dee Randall" > wrote:
>
>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> > <RJ> wrote:
>> >> I got the container from the fridge,
>> >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>> >>
>> >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>> >>
>> >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>> >
>> >
>> > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
>> > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
>> > quickly.
>>
>> Are you that sure?
>> I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
>> things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach
>> cramps
>> and diarrhea almost as soon as.
>> Dee Dee
>> Dee Dee
>
> That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)
>
> Coffee is a known laxative and the stronger (and older) it is, the worse
> it gets.
>
> And it ain't the caffeine. It's the oils and acids in the coffee.
>
> That's why the Gastroenterologist told me to give up ALL coffee, not
> just regular, but decaffeinated too.
> --
> Peace!
> Om
>
Yes, I've done that. But lately when I go to "town" I will get a double
expresso and add a cream. I think I'm going to have to start carrying my
own cream. HA HA HA!
Dee Dee

"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Dee Randall wrote:
>> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>> >
>> > <RJ> wrote:
>> >> I got the container from the fridge,
>> >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>> >>
>> >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>> >>
>> >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>> >
>> >
>> > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
>> > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
>> > quickly.
>>
>> Are you that sure?
>
> Yes.
>
>> I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
>> things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach
>> cramps
>> and diarrhea almost as soon as.
>> Dee Dee
>> Dee Dee
>
> Your experience notwithstanding, it still doesn't mean that everything
> that makes you sick makes you sick almost instantly. I put it out there
> as a possibility, not a fact.
>

But, it sure is fun to believe these things. :-) Every time I get sick,
it's because of my son, even though he's now 17 and is no longer famous for
sneezing and spraying snot all over everything, like little kids are so fond
of doing. I have scientific proof of my theory, but I can't find it at the
moment.

"-L." > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >
> > It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us miserable.
> > This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I was
> > like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months."
The
> > doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or
shaking
> > hands.
>
> More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.
>
> >
> > Back to the canteloupe: They grow on the ground, and are probably
exposed to
> > juice from damaged melons during shipping or storage. Perfect for
growing
> > germs.
>
> They are also sprayed with insecticides and fungicides. Plus are
> covered in bird and rodent poop, and any other critter who munches on
> melons.
>
> -L.
>

There was a news expose a few years ago about fruit from Mexico, seems they
use human waste as fertilizer in certain areas of that country. Can we say
e-coli boys and girls?
-ginny

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> "Dee Randall" wrote:
> > "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > <RJ> wrote:
> > >> I got the container from the fridge,
> > >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > >>
> > >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > >>
> > >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> > >
> > >
> > > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > > quickly.
> >
> > Are you that sure?
> > I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> > things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach cramps
> > and diarrhea almost as soon as.
>
> That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)

Not so fast there. Produce can easily be contaminated from being grown
near to run off and animal waste. As diligent as inspectors are there
are still more than a few instances where imported produce is rife with
harmful bacteria... much produce consumed in the US comes from Mexco,
often it is grown near septic fields or in direct contact with
animal/human waste. Plenty of home gardeners in the US plant too near
a septic field, their's and/or their neighbor's. In times of heavy
spring rains and when flooding occurs much of the run off is coliform
contaminated, and therefore so are resultant crops.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub..._NO_115=131175

Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.

Sheldon

>
> Your experience notwithstanding, it still doesn't mean that everything
> that makes you sick makes you sick almost instantly. I put it out there
> as a possibility, not a fact.

I'd agree - I nearly reported the wrong restaurant for giving me food
poisoning a few months ago. I started feeling unwell after lunch on
Saturday, and on Monday, when I'd recovered, was all ready to ring
Environmental Health and tell them which restaurant it was . . .
fortunately, before I rang them I got to work, and discovered that the
eight people I'd eaten a pub lunch with on Friday had all got sick on
Saturday afternoon as well.

My Dr said that salmonella, in particular, can take more than 24 hours
to present, so a few of the meals you ate before the melon might have
been the culprit. (Of course, it could equally have been the
canteloupe!)

--
www.gastronomydomine.com

"Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> <RJ> wrote:
>> I got the container from the fridge,
>> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>>
>> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>>
>> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
>
> "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> quickly.
>

Feeling ill from food poisoning within two hours is entirely possible.
Staphylococcus aureus onset can be within one to eight hours. I had this
once; I started feeling ill before I even left the restaurant. My doctor
said that rapid-onset food poisoning makes you feel really rotten, but
there's usually a shorter recovery period than with the delayed-onset types.

Here's a site with some information on various types of food poisoning:
http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/foodsafety/poisoning.html

I wouldn't wish food poisoning on anyone. First you're afraid you're going
to die, and then you're afraid you're *not* going to die...

Karen

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "-L." > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> >
>> > It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us
>> > miserable.
>> > This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I
>> > was
>> > like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months."
> The
>> > doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or
> shaking
>> > hands.
>>
>> More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.
>>
>> >
>> > Back to the canteloupe: They grow on the ground, and are probably
> exposed to
>> > juice from damaged melons during shipping or storage. Perfect for
> growing
>> > germs.
>>
>> They are also sprayed with insecticides and fungicides. Plus are
>> covered in bird and rodent poop, and any other critter who munches on
>> melons.
>>
>> -L.
>>
>
> There was a news expose a few years ago about fruit from Mexico, seems
> they
> use human waste as fertilizer in certain areas of that country. Can we
> say
> e-coli boys and girls?
> -ginny

I can attest to that! Many years ago, after eating dinner in
Juarez, Mexico, I came down with a world class case of
Montezuma's Revenge. My co-workers had to take me to
the ER. Never again.


>
>

"Tom Royer" > wrote in message
...
> "Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "-L." > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>>
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us
>>> > miserable.
>>> > This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I
>>> > was
>>> > like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months."
>> The
>>> > doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or
>> shaking
>>> > hands.
>>>
>>> More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Back to the canteloupe: They grow on the ground, and are probably
>> exposed to
>>> > juice from damaged melons during shipping or storage. Perfect for
>> growing
>>> > germs.
>>>
>>> They are also sprayed with insecticides and fungicides. Plus are
>>> covered in bird and rodent poop, and any other critter who munches on
>>> melons.
>>>
>>> -L.
>>>
>>
>> There was a news expose a few years ago about fruit from Mexico, seems
>> they
>> use human waste as fertilizer in certain areas of that country. Can we
>> say
>> e-coli boys and girls?
>> -ginny
>
> I can attest to that! Many years ago, after eating dinner in
> Juarez, Mexico, I came down with a world class case of
> Montezuma's Revenge. My co-workers had to take me to
> the ER. Never again.
>
>
If you look at the cartons of produce to see where they are from, they most
likely as not are marked "Product of Mexico" or something similar.

I think our guts are/have gotten used to "it."
Dee Dee

"Karen" > wrote in message
news:0jjhg.765600$084.49246@attbi_s22...
>
> "Christopher Helms" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>
>> <RJ> wrote:
>>> I got the container from the fridge,
>>> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>>>
>>> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>>> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>>>
>>> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>>> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>>
>>
>> "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
>> day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
>> quickly.
>>
>
> Feeling ill from food poisoning within two hours is entirely possible.
> Staphylococcus aureus onset can be within one to eight hours. I had this
> once; I started feeling ill before I even left the restaurant. My doctor
> said that rapid-onset food poisoning makes you feel really rotten, but
> there's usually a shorter recovery period than with the delayed-onset
> types.
>
> Here's a site with some information on various types of food poisoning:
> http://www.vdacs.virginia.gov/foodsafety/poisoning.html
>
> I wouldn't wish food poisoning on anyone. First you're afraid you're
> going to die, and then you're afraid you're *not* going to die...
>
> Karen
>
>
Thanks for the url. Particularly interesting to me is Disease: Listeriosis
Common in nature, food processing environments, and intestinal tracts of
humans and animals. Spread in untreated water, unpasteurized milk and dairy
products, raw meat and seafood, plus raw vegetables fertilized with infected
manure.
Symptoms (after eating): Onset: 2-30 days.

Dee Dee

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...


> Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
> in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
> instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.
>
> Sheldon

That happens all the time when it rains hard enough. Some minutia isn't
worth worrying about.

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > "Dee Randall" wrote:
> > > "Christopher Helms" wrote:
> > > > <RJ> wrote:
> > > >> I got the container from the fridge,
> > > >> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > > >>
> > > >> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > > >> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > > >>
> > > >> Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > > >> I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > > > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > > > quickly.
> > >
> > > Are you that sure?
> > > I feel queezy and a lot of gas almost immediately after eating certain
> > > things. I've drank coffee in restaurants that I've had the stomach
> > > cramps
> > > and diarrhea almost as soon as.
> >
> > That's food sensitivities, not food poisoning. ;-)
>
> Not so fast there. Produce can easily be contaminated from being grown
> near to run off and animal waste. As diligent as inspectors are there
> are still more than a few instances where imported produce is rife with
> harmful bacteria... much produce consumed in the US comes from Mexco,
> often it is grown near septic fields or in direct contact with
> animal/human waste. Plenty of home gardeners in the US plant too near
> a septic field, their's and/or their neighbor's. In times of heavy
> spring rains and when flooding occurs much of the run off is coliform
> contaminated, and therefore so are resultant crops.
>
> http://www.ars.usda.gov/research/pub...EQ_NO_115=1311
> 75
>
> Btw, those with home gardens be diligent with irigation, do not water
> in such a way that forceful spray splashes from the ground onto plants,
> instead use soaker hoses and drip systems.
>
> Sheldon

Um, sweetie, we were talking about TIMING here.
As a general rule (unless I guess the food you ate had a helluva
bacterial toxin load), it needs an incubation period in the intestines
to make you sick.

If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
> or is it food allergy/sensitivity?

Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
an allergy or sensitivity to get it.

All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.

http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467

Staphylococcus aureus

Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
food ingested.

--
Reg

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article .com>,
> "Christopher Helms" > wrote:
>
> > <RJ> wrote:
> > > I got the container from the fridge,
> > > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > >
> > > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > >
> > > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> >
> >
> > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > quickly.
>
> I must agree...
> When I came down with Salmonella, it was a full 8 hours before the
> symptoms started.

Hmm, that's because you have a natural immunity... so why didn't you
tell us how susequently the Salmonella came down with OmManiosis and
died. hehehehe

Sheldon

In article > ,
Reg > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food poisoning
> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
>
> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
>
> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
>
> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
>
> Staphylococcus aureus
>
> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
> food ingested.

Makes sense........

Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.

I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
The brand was "Apple Tree".

That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
The can was bulging at both ends.

Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article .com>,
"Sheldon" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article .com>,
> > "Christopher Helms" > wrote:
> >
> > > <RJ> wrote:
> > > > I got the container from the fridge,
> > > > and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
> > > >
> > > > Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> > > > I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
> > > >
> > > > Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
> > > > I pondered ; "What happened ? "
> > >
> > >
> > > "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> > > day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> > > quickly.
> >
> > I must agree...
> > When I came down with Salmonella, it was a full 8 hours before the
> > symptoms started.
>
> Hmm, that's because you have a natural immunity... so why didn't you
> tell us how susequently the Salmonella came down with OmManiosis and
> died. hehehehe
>
> Sheldon

Antibiotic therapy a' la' Dr. (XXXXXXXX).
Said good Dr. also gave me IV demerol and Fenargin.

Nice buzz, and I slept for about 4 hours in the ER, peacefully, for the
first time in 3 days. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...
> In article > ,
> Reg > wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>>
>> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food
>> > poisoning
>> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
>>
>> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
>> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
>> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
>> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
>>
>> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
>> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
>>
>> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
>>
>> Staphylococcus aureus
>>
>> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
>> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
>> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
>> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
>> food ingested.
>
> Makes sense........
>
> Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.
>
> I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> The brand was "Apple Tree".
>
> That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> The can was bulging at both ends.
>
> Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)

So, how did they taste?

;o) Rich

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
...

>
> Antibiotic therapy a' la' Dr. (XXXXXXXX).
> Said good Dr. also gave me IV demerol and Fenargin.
>
> Nice buzz, and I slept for about 4 hours in the ER, peacefully, for the
> first time in 3 days. ;-)

That's Demerol® (meperidine) and Phenergan® (promethazine).
--


--Rich

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:


> I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> The brand was "Apple Tree".
>
> That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> The can was bulging at both ends.
>
> Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)

Made canapes?

Sorry, had to.



Brian

--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Christopher Helms wrote:

> <RJ> wrote:
>
>>I got the container from the fridge,
>>and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>>
>>Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
>>I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.
>>
>>Today, feeling much better, ( but 5 pounds lighter )
>>I pondered ; "What happened ? "
>
>
>
> "Within two hours" is awfully quick. Maybe it was someting you ate the
> day before. Not every nasty thing that makes you sick acts that
> quickly.
>

I agree. A reaction this quick sounds a lot more like a toxic or
allergic reaction or possibly an intolerance rather than e-coli.
Bacterial infection generally takes a little more time to build up momentum.

Kathleen

"projectile vomit chick" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:35:32 GMT, in rec.food.cooking,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > hit the crackpipe and
> declared:
>>"-L." > wrote in message
groups.com...
>>>
>>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's amazing, the things we can't see, but which will make us
>>>> miserable.
>>>> This is appetizing: I got the underwear form of crabs last spring. I
>>>> was
>>>> like "WTF? I haven't been near another human being in several months."
>>>> The
>>>> doctor said the best way to avoid it was to stop handling money or
>>>> shaking
>>>> hands.
>>>
>>> More likely you got it from a toilet seat or from trying on clothing.
>>
>>I'd have to be near death before I'd sit on a toilet seat in a public
>>place.
>>:-)
>>
>
> Why? The surface of the toilet seat is probably cleaner than your
> bottom.


You're off your feed today.

Kathleen wrote:

> I agree. A reaction this quick sounds a lot more like a toxic or
> allergic reaction or possibly an intolerance rather than e-coli.
> Bacterial infection generally takes a little more time to build up
> momentum.


Tell me more. Like the original poster, I have, from time to time,
gotten those severe symptoms from canteloupe. The symptoms have always
shown up almost immediately. I've wondered if I was allergic to
canteloupe altogether. I've wondered if there was something to the
combination of canteloupe with a glass of milk. Come to think of it, I
don't think I've ever eaten a half a canteloupe all at once since my
first experience with the symptoms 30 years ago, and I've never had
canteloupe within 5 hours of any sort of dairy either. Symptoms that
severe will teach you that sort of caution. I have had a sliver of
canteloupe at a time since. I thought I knew the basics of allergic
reactions. What would characterize a toxic reaction? Could it just be
too much fiber?


--Lia

Oh pshaw, on Tue 06 Jun 2006 06:25:14p, Julia Altshuler meant to say...

> Kathleen wrote:
>
>> I agree. A reaction this quick sounds a lot more like a toxic or
>> allergic reaction or possibly an intolerance rather than e-coli.
>> Bacterial infection generally takes a little more time to build up
>> momentum.
>
>
> Tell me more. Like the original poster, I have, from time to time,
> gotten those severe symptoms from canteloupe. The symptoms have always
> shown up almost immediately. I've wondered if I was allergic to
> canteloupe altogether. I've wondered if there was something to the
> combination of canteloupe with a glass of milk. Come to think of it, I
> don't think I've ever eaten a half a canteloupe all at once since my
> first experience with the symptoms 30 years ago, and I've never had
> canteloupe within 5 hours of any sort of dairy either. Symptoms that
> severe will teach you that sort of caution. I have had a sliver of
> canteloupe at a time since. I thought I knew the basics of allergic
> reactions. What would characterize a toxic reaction? Could it just be
> too much fiber?

I guess it varies widely with the individual. I can eat an entire
cantelope and never give it a thought, although some other foods will
occasionally do that to me.

--
Wayne Boatwright @¿@¬
_____________________

In article >,
"Rich" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article > ,
> > Reg > wrote:
> >
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you get sick within minutes of eating something, is it food
> >> > poisoning
> >> > or is it food allergy/sensitivity?
> >>
> >> Or various non-bug causes such as scombroid (not that it
> >> applies here, it's caused by seafood). It can hit in
> >> as little 20-30 minutes. You don't even need to have
> >> an allergy or sensitivity to get it.
> >>
> >> All in all, it *is* possible to develop symptoms caused by
> >> a bug within two hours, S. Aureus being a good example.
> >>
> >> http://www.safefood.net.au/content.cfm?sid=467
> >>
> >> Staphylococcus aureus
> >>
> >> Onset of symptoms: The onset of symptoms is usually 1-6 hours.
> >> The onset and severity of the illness is usually dependent
> >> on the individuals susceptibility to the toxin, the amount
> >> of contaminated food eaten, and the amount of toxin in the
> >> food ingested.
> >
> > Makes sense........
> >
> > Just pray it ain't C. botulinum.
> >
> > I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> > The brand was "Apple Tree".
> >
> > That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> > The can was bulging at both ends.
> >
> > Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)
>
> So, how did they taste?
>
> ;o) Rich

<snicker> Ask the rats in the land fill.......
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Rich" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >
> > Antibiotic therapy a' la' Dr. (XXXXXXXX).
> > Said good Dr. also gave me IV demerol and Fenargin.
> >
> > Nice buzz, and I slept for about 4 hours in the ER, peacefully, for the
> > first time in 3 days. ;-)
>
> That's Demerol® (meperidine) and Phenergan® (promethazine).

Funny, I googled Phenargan before I posted to make sure I'd spelled it
right. :-( And still got it wrong.....
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"Default User" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>
> > I found a can of peas in the back of the pantry the other day.
> > The brand was "Apple Tree".
> >
> > That store went out of business a good 18 years ago here in town.
> > The can was bulging at both ends.
> >
> > Guess what I did with that can of peas? ;-)
>
> Made canapes?
>
> Sorry, had to.
>
>
>
> Brian

Not... ;-)

That's one thing my parents taught me at an early age.
_Never_ ever eat a can of food that is bulging. Don't
even open it.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"<RJ>" > wrote in message
...
>I got the container from the fridge,
> and had a delightful breakfast of chilled, cubed cantaloupe.
>
> Within two hours, I was regretting breakfast !
> I spent the rest of the day, rushing to the bathroom.



My girlfriend told me she didn't like my melon, so we cant-elope...