The Bubbo > wrote in
:

..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com


LOL!!

Thanks for the laughs :-)


Still riding the 8.7billion miles (uphill) to Riverview??


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

"The Bubbo" > wrote

> Nancy Young wrote:

>> I would suggest that even with two people driving, that is a long
>> time to be on the road without real sleep. Be smart, if you feel
>> drowsy at all, pull over. People have a funny habit of driving off
>> the road when they fall asleep behind the wheel.

> started flying across the road. When I muttered "damned mice flying across
> the
> road" I realized it was time to wake the girl, change the cd and work a
> little
> harder to stay focused.
>
> to be clear, I did NOT fall asleep!

(laugh!) Funny.

When I was in my 20s, I could drive all day and all night, too.
I wouldn't try it now.

> As luck would have it, we blew a tire outside Sterling, CO at 4 in the
> morning. We dialed up AAA and got towed in (the wheel was rusted to the
> bolts
> and I couldn't get it off, I can change my own tire. Hell, even the tow
> truck
> driver couldn't get the wheel off) and we napped in the parking lot of the
> repair shop. Made it to denver in time to meet a friend for breakfast then
> headed down to New Mexico.

Ugh, that's got to be the worst, car trouble on a road trip. They should
break while they are sitting there in the driveway instead of
inconveniencing
everyone. (laugh)

nancy

PeterL wrote:
> The Bubbo > wrote in
> :
>
> .:Heather:.
> www.velvet-c.com
>
>
> LOL!!
>
> Thanks for the laughs :-)
>
>
> Still riding the 8.7billion miles (uphill) to Riverview??
>
>

DUDE!
I had reconstructive surgery on my right wrist a few weeks ago so I haven't
been able to ride my bike. I'm getting my strength back in there and I'll be
bike riding the rest of the summer.

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

Nancy Young wrote:
>
> "The Bubbo" > wrote
>
>> Nancy Young wrote:
>
>>> I would suggest that even with two people driving, that is a long
>>> time to be on the road without real sleep. Be smart, if you feel
>>> drowsy at all, pull over. People have a funny habit of driving off
>>> the road when they fall asleep behind the wheel.
>
>> started flying across the road. When I muttered "damned mice flying across
>> the
>> road" I realized it was time to wake the girl, change the cd and work a
>> little
>> harder to stay focused.
>>
>> to be clear, I did NOT fall asleep!
>
> (laugh!) Funny.
>
> When I was in my 20s, I could drive all day and all night, too.
> I wouldn't try it now.

Yeah, the last time I did it I drove 25 hours from minneapolis to atlanta
starting at 5 in the afternoon. We stopped in Paducah, KY for waffle house at
4am (it was awful), Nashville for Bongo Java, and Hatch show print at 9am,
Lynchburg TN for the JD distillery (Goose wasn't doing tours so we didn't
stay) then meandered the rest of the way down. We got to Atlanta around 5.
Slept for 3 hours, found some dinner and then crashed. The next day we headed
out to Savannah.

>
>> As luck would have it, we blew a tire outside Sterling, CO at 4 in the
>> morning. We dialed up AAA and got towed in (the wheel was rusted to the
>> bolts
>> and I couldn't get it off, I can change my own tire. Hell, even the tow
>> truck
>> driver couldn't get the wheel off) and we napped in the parking lot of the
>> repair shop. Made it to denver in time to meet a friend for breakfast then
>> headed down to New Mexico.
>
> Ugh, that's got to be the worst, car trouble on a road trip. They should
> break while they are sitting there in the driveway instead of
> inconveniencing
> everyone. (laugh)
>

It was really frustrating because I can change a tire and I would have changed
this one and not called for a tow but I could not get the wheel off. The tow
truck driver came out and he was all cranky because we got him out of bed and
so he was going to show us dumb girls a lesson. He couldn't get the tire off
either. I didn't mind that particular flat tire, the trip was a last minute
jump in the car and go kind of thing and I just figured it was part of the
adventure.

> nancy
>
>

I miss road tripping like that. I had cats at the time and it's easy enough to
leave them with enough food or have someone stop in. Now I have two dogs and
it requires more planning.

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com
Step off, beyotches, I'm the roflpimp!

The Bubbo > wrote in
:

> PeterL wrote:
>> The Bubbo > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> .:Heather:.
>> www.velvet-c.com
>>
>>
>> LOL!!
>>
>> Thanks for the laughs :-)
>>
>>
>> Still riding the 8.7billion miles (uphill) to Riverview??
>>
>>
>
> DUDE!
> I had reconstructive surgery on my right wrist a few weeks ago


Yep, know all about that.


>so I
> haven't been able to ride my bike. I'm getting my strength back in
> there and I'll be bike riding the rest of the summer.
>


No doubt I'll read about it when you do :-)


--
Peter Lucas
Brisbane
Australia

'Enjoy today, it was paid for by a veteran'

Mordechai Housman wrote:
> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover for
> a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>
> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>
> It will be my wife and I, and a nine-year-old boy.
>
> What would you suggest I pack for food for these three people?
>
> Mordechai


You aren't going to do all this in one day, are you? If so, I hope you
will share the driving with your wife. That much driving can get
dangerously hypnotic.

A cooler with bottled water, cheese and crackers, drinkable yogurt,
fresh fruit or fruit salad in a covered plastic bowl. Nuts are good if
they aren't too salty, maybe mixed with raisins or dried cranberries.
You could also take a thermos or plastic container of gazpacho or other
cold soup that you could drink out of paper cups.

I would try to pack snack foods that aren't too salty or sweet because
that will increase thirst and the need for more frequent bathroom stops.

I'd make sure the 9 year old had books, puzzles, and maybe a sketching
pad to keep him busy. A map so he can keep track of the distance you
have covered might interest some 9 yr. olds. If he likes music, let him
take a personal listening device or go to the library and get some
books-on-tape that you will all enjoy. A pillow so he can nap in the
back seat if he gets bored is a valuable addition.

gloria p

"aem" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover
>> for
>> a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>>
>> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>>
>> It will be my wife and I, and a nine-year-old boy.
>>
>> What would you suggest I pack for food for these three people?
>>
> Cash or a credit card. For several reasons it's much better to stop
> for a while and get something to eat. Take apples or bananas, maybe,
> and some water. But don't be planning on driving nonstop for many
> hours without any kind of break or walking around time. -aem

I forgot to mention that we eat only kosher, so for the most part we
have to bring our own food.

I think I'd better explain the details.

We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.

We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can stop
in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone recently
opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.

So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as well.
We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan is
to bring along our own food.

The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife and
my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
They will be bringing their own food.

Mordechai

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Roberta" > wrote
>
>> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>
>>> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover
>>> for a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>>>
>>> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>
>> I would suggest that you at least stop at a rest area to get out and
>> eat if you can - 8-9 hours in a car seems like a LONG trip without
>> stops.
>
> I would suggest that even with two people driving, that is a long
> time to be on the road without real sleep. Be smart, if you feel
> drowsy at all, pull over. People have a funny habit of driving off
> the road when they fall asleep behind the wheel.

Good suggestion, Nancy. We made frequent stops on our last trip, but the
point was that we rotated drivers so everyone could get a chance to
sleep at least four hours at a stretch.

That last trip was a much longer one, and we had more drivers then, but
still, it was rough. Luckily we were not in a hurry.

We won't hurry much this time either, but we do want to make it in time
for the wedding. The trip is an 8-hour trip, but we hope to leave with a
nice time margin.

"Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> On 13 Jun 2006 09:02:51 -0700, "Karen" > wrote:
>
>>
>>Sheldon wrote:
>>> You're obviously trying to save the price of a motel room, you're
>>> nuts.
>>
>>Maybe not. A week vacation filled with 4 days driving is not enough
>>time vacationing. Two drivers can do 8-9 hours, no problem.
>
> But it's not a week's trip - he specifically says they're driving to
> their destination and only stopping for two or three hours... I assume
> for a wedding or funeral or something of that sort... and then turning
> around and driving the same distance again (so I assume back home).
> Now THAT seems nuts to me.

Well, the wedding is Thursday night, and we need to be back home for the
Sabbath, Friday evening. It's as simple as that. We wish we could stay
in Toronto for the Sabbath, but we have commitments back home, so we
can't.

The Bubbo > writes:
> I will sometimes do huge 24 hour stints (there are 2 of us) and
> having a massive number of Starbucks Double Shots next to me is like
> rule number one. They don't taste the greatest and they have more
> calories than I want but they taste a far sight better than some of
> the shit coffee I've had from interstate gas stations and truck
> stops.

I tend not to do really long road trips anymore, but for the longest
single unbroken driving trip I did (Arlington, VA to Minneapolis, via
a slightly innefficient route for around 22 hours, immediately after
catching a flight in from Miami), I burnt through two 4-packs of those
little Starbucks bottled mocha frappuccinos.

I was basically hallucinating Incan Monkey Gods by the time I got to
Minnesota. I no longer have the stamina for that (and I have somewhat
better judgment...)

--
Richard W Kaszeta

http://www.kaszeta.org/rich

Mordechai Housman wrote:
> I think I'd better explain the details.
>
> We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
> eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
> relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
> That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.
>
> We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can stop
> in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
> stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone recently
> opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.
>
> So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as well.
> We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan is
> to bring along our own food.
>
> The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife and
> my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
> They will be bringing their own food.

Sounds like fun!

I don't know the restrictions of kosher...

Karen

"Karen" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>> I think I'd better explain the details.
>>
>> We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
>> eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
>> relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
>> That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.
>>
>> We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can
>> stop
>> in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
>> stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone
>> recently
>> opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.
>>
>> So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as
>> well.
>> We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan
>> is
>> to bring along our own food.
>>
>> The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife
>> and
>> my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
>> They will be bringing their own food.
>
> Sounds like fun!
>
> I don't know the restrictions of kosher...
>
> Karen

I didn't expect anyone to, or need them to know it. That's why I didn't
mention kosher in the first place. I just asked for general suggestions,
and I can winnow out or substitute for any that I can't eat.

Mordechai Housman wrote:
> I didn't expect anyone to, or need them to know it. That's why I didn't
> mention kosher in the first place. I just asked for general suggestions,
> and I can winnow out or substitute for any that I can't eat.

If one is kosher, and one can't eat at any restaurant, doesn't this
type of question or dilemma come up a lot? Travel, vacation, business,
work days, flying, hospital stay, etc.?

(not trying to sound snippy, just curious)

Karen

Karen wrote:
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
> > I think I'd better explain the details.
> >
> > We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
> > eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
> > relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
> > That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.
> >
> > We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can stop
> > in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
> > stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone recently
> > opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.
> >
> > So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as well.
> > We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan is
> > to bring along our own food.
> >
> > The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife and
> > my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
> > They will be bringing their own food.
>
> Sounds like fun!
>
> I don't know the restrictions of kosher...
>
> Karen

You only get to eat circumcised meat.

Sheldon

Mordechai Housman wrote:
>
> I think I'd better explain the details.
>
> We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
> eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
> relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
> That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.
>
> We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can stop
> in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
> stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone recently
> opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.
>
> So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as well.
> We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan is
> to bring along our own food.
>
> The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife and
> my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
> They will be bringing their own food.
>
> Mordechai

In that case I'll repeat my "rent and RV" suggestion. I don't know all
the Kosher rules so I can't suggest anything there, but if you're
intending to eat full meals on the road with 3 or 4 people, have special
requirements on the type of food and can't eat at the typical truck stop
then an RV would be a very big help. An RV gives you room to sit down at
a table, a refrigerator to keep your food cold, a stove / microwave to
heat your food and bathroom and sink facilities.

Pete C.

Pete C. wrote:
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
> >
> > I think I'd better explain the details.
> >
> > We have two or three drivers on this trip. No one will be driving for
> > eight hours straight. We plan on taking frequent stops for bathrooms,
> > relaxation, and so forth. We don't like hectic rushing and so forth.
> > That's why we have this particular group along for the ride.
> >
> > We eat only kosher, and there are few places along the way we can stop
> > in. I actually just heard that in Niagara Falls (which we will be
> > stopping at briefly on our way to a wedding in Toronto) someone recently
> > opened a kosher pizza store. But I doubt we will stop there.
> >
> > So we plan on eating breakfast in the car, and possibly lunch as well.
> > We might stop and eat, if the mood strikes us. In any case, our plan is
> > to bring along our own food.
> >
> > The reason I asked for suggestions about food for just me, my wife and
> > my son, is because the other people are friends, from other families.
> > They will be bringing their own food.
> >
> > Mordechai
>
> In that case I'll repeat my "rent and RV" suggestion. I don't know all
> the Kosher rules so I can't suggest anything there, but if you're
> intending to eat full meals on the road with 3 or 4 people, have special
> requirements on the type of food and can't eat at the typical truck stop
> then an RV would be a very big help. An RV gives you room to sit down at
> a table, a refrigerator to keep your food cold, a stove / microwave to
> heat your food and bathroom and sink facilities.

An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even triples
the tolls.

Sheldon

"Sheldon" > wrote in news:1150314476.135627.97460
@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even triples
> the tolls.
>
> Sheldon


Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
those beasts?

Andy

Andy wrote:

> "Sheldon" > wrote in news:1150314476.135627.97460
> @f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even triples
> > the tolls.
> >
> > Sheldon
>
> Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
> those beasts?
>

Nope.

Sheldon wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> > Andy wrote:
> > > "Sheldon" wrote:
> > >
> > > > An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even triples
> > > > the tolls.
> > >
> > > Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
> > > those beasts?
> > >
> >
> > Nope.
>
> Depends. In the US each state's DMV is different.
>
> http://www.nysdmv.com/forms/mv500c.pdf
>

They don't have enough seating capacity to be a bus and they don't weigh enough
to require the truck license. Your cited example (NY) allows driving an RV
less than 23,000 lb, and that's a good sized RV. Most of them are way under
that.

It has long been a bone of contention for truck drivers who have to get a CDL
and all the nonsense that goes along with it, and then Grandpa goes out and
gets a huge RV and can drive it with his regular car licence.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Sheldon wrote:
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> > > Andy wrote:
> > > > "Sheldon" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even triples
> > > > > the tolls.
> > > >
> > > > Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
> > > > those beasts?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nope.
> >
> > Depends. In the US each state's DMV is different.
> >
> > http://www.nysdmv.com/forms/mv500c.pdf
> >
>
> They don't have enough seating capacity to be a bus and they don't weigh enough
> to require the truck license. Your cited example (NY) allows driving an RV
> less than 23,000 lb, and that's a good sized RV. Most of them are way under
> that.
>
> It has long been a bone of contention for truck drivers who have to get a CDL
> and all the nonsense that goes along with it, and then Grandpa goes out and
> gets a huge RV and can drive it with his regular car licence.

Yes, but not many RVs weigh 80,000# and have air brakes.

Pete C.

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > Andy wrote:
>> > > > "Sheldon" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even
>> > > > > triples
>> > > > > the tolls.
>> > > >
>> > > > Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
>> > > > those beasts?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Nope.
>> >
>> > Depends. In the US each state's DMV is different.
>> >
>> > http://www.nysdmv.com/forms/mv500c.pdf
>> >
>>
>> They don't have enough seating capacity to be a bus and they don't weigh
>> enough
>> to require the truck license. Your cited example (NY) allows driving an
>> RV
>> less than 23,000 lb, and that's a good sized RV. Most of them are way
>> under
>> that.
>>
>> It has long been a bone of contention for truck drivers who have to get a
>> CDL
>> and all the nonsense that goes along with it, and then Grandpa goes out
>> and
>> gets a huge RV and can drive it with his regular car licence.
>
> Yes, but not many RVs weigh 80,000# and have air brakes.
>
> Pete C.
============

Pete,

They might not weigh as much nor have the air brakes - but a lot of them
sure are as long as the truck/trailer combinations and without a bit of
experience and/or training can make for an 'accident waiting to happen'.
Being a former driver I have to go along with the way of thinking that there
should be additional testing required to drive the larger RVs. While
several of the "G'pa's" out there may have been driving longer than I've
been alive... there's still a big difference from driving Model As and Delta
88s to driving 28 and 40 foot long Airstreams (or Coachmans, etc.)!

Or maybe I'm just ****ed that I paid so much for my CDL that I can't afford
to buy a Winnebago. <SNORT> Kidding!

--
Syssi

Syssi wrote:
>
> "Pete C." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> > > Andy wrote:
> >> > > > "Sheldon" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > An RV gets 7 miles to the gallon (if lucky), and double, even
> >> > > > > triples
> >> > > > > the tolls.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Don't you need a special driver license endorsement to drive one of
> >> > > > those beasts?
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Nope.
> >> >
> >> > Depends. In the US each state's DMV is different.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.nysdmv.com/forms/mv500c.pdf
> >> >
> >>
> >> They don't have enough seating capacity to be a bus and they don't weigh
> >> enough
> >> to require the truck license. Your cited example (NY) allows driving an
> >> RV
> >> less than 23,000 lb, and that's a good sized RV. Most of them are way
> >> under
> >> that.
> >>
> >> It has long been a bone of contention for truck drivers who have to get a
> >> CDL
> >> and all the nonsense that goes along with it, and then Grandpa goes out
> >> and
> >> gets a huge RV and can drive it with his regular car licence.
> >
> > Yes, but not many RVs weigh 80,000# and have air brakes.
> >
> > Pete C.
> ============
>
> Pete,
>
> They might not weigh as much nor have the air brakes - but a lot of them
> sure are as long as the truck/trailer combinations and without a bit of
> experience and/or training can make for an 'accident waiting to happen'.
> Being a former driver I have to go along with the way of thinking that there
> should be additional testing required to drive the larger RVs. While
> several of the "G'pa's" out there may have been driving longer than I've
> been alive... there's still a big difference from driving Model As and Delta
> 88s to driving 28 and 40 foot long Airstreams (or Coachmans, etc.)!
>
> Or maybe I'm just ****ed that I paid so much for my CDL that I can't afford
> to buy a Winnebago. <SNORT> Kidding!
>
> --
> Syssi

I haven't seen many 75' RVs. Most are probably closer to 40'. But yes, a
class B CDL class would be good for them. My last move I rented a nice
International 4300 with a 24' box and lift gate to shuffle stuff to the
big truck. Was fine for me, but kinda scary thinking any soccer mom
could rent it.

The biggest problem with a lot of the RVs, particularly the cheaper ones
is they build too long for the chassis wheelbase and have too much tail
swing. At least the bus based ones have the rear axles far enough back.

I'd like to see driver testing all at a class B CDL level and automatics
prohibited for the test. Would help remove some of the worst drivers
from the road.

Pete C.

"Mordechai Housman" > wrote in news:COrjg.4493
$891.4041@trndny01:

> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover for
> a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>
> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>
> It will be my wife and I, and a nine-year-old boy.
>
> What would you suggest I pack for food for these three people?

Wrap some chicken breasts with butter and preferred spices in foil. Wrap
several times. Place foil packs on engine, drive 3 or 4 hours. Stop and
place chicken on spread smeared with butter and herbs. Enjoy.


--

Charles
The significant problems we face cannot be solved
at the same level of thinking we were at when we
created them. Albert Einstein

"Karen" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>> I didn't expect anyone to, or need them to know it. That's why I
>> didn't
>> mention kosher in the first place. I just asked for general
>> suggestions,
>> and I can winnow out or substitute for any that I can't eat.
>
> If one is kosher, and one can't eat at any restaurant, doesn't this
> type of question or dilemma come up a lot? Travel, vacation, business,
> work days, flying, hospital stay, etc.?
>
> (not trying to sound snippy, just curious)
>
> Karen

Not everyone travels a lot. Not everyone can, what with work, school and
so forth. I like to, but I don't often get the chance. There are
religious obligations, and so forth. But there are times that it becomes
possible, but most people prefer to take local trips to some touristy
place near them, and then be home that night.

In any case, yes, the question comes up, but I wanted to do the best I
can and be efficient.

The trip went well, and the food worked out, though we didn't quite plan
well for the last day, the day of our return, because we thought we'd be
getting home some three hours earlier than we did. So for breakfast we
ate doughnuts and a soy pudding I'd bought, and drank some vitamin water
(I forget the brand name, but they're well-known, I think).

We got home around noon, so I made a brunch. I fried up some "potato
eggs," as I call them: I fry potatoes and when they are just about done
I pour egg over them and make it into an omelet. (Other times I also use
onion, but not this time.) That with some bread and crème
cheese/margarine (and coffee for my wife) made up for the lack of a
decent breakfast that morning, and gave us lunch as well.

We had a good time on the trip too. We stopped for about an hour at
Niagara Falls. We'd meant to stop for only half an hour, but a weird
little thing happened. We were in Canada, already. One of the drivers
took the car to find a duty-free store to buy some things, and when he
tried to leave the parking lot the only exit was back into the States.
So he had to find the manager and explain the situation. The manager
opened the gate and let him exit the parking lot without leaving Canada.
But al that took some time.

So we came perhaps an hour or so late to the wedding, which was no big
deal. Few Jewish events start exactly on time anyway, so we didn't miss
much.

So what did we end up taking for food? We left around 8:45 in the
morning, due to a blackout that caused our alarm clocks not to ring at
the right time. Only half an hour late is actually an improvement for
us.

Anyway, we ate breakfast in the car, mostly things like crème cheese
sandwiches and other breakfast things.

For lunch we had tuna fish sandwiches (mine on six-grain bread, everyone
else's on rye). For dinner we ate at the wedding, though we did have
snacks along the way: cookies, iirc. For drinks we brought lots of
small water bottles (I personally drink only bottled water, even at
home; I can't stand the taste of tap water in most places), Poweraid
(which is a sort of kosher Gatorade, I think), some coca cola for me (I
need the caffeine, but I don't like the taste of coffee, even in candies
or in cake), and my wife brought along a cup of coffee for herself.

I think that was it. Oh yes, we brought along oranges and bananas. And
as I mentioned, I brought along the soy pudding (banana flavored), for
a little protein, but I didn't wind up eating any until the return trip,
and no one else was interested in it, apparently.

A lot of people here suggested trail mix, but I completely forgot to get
some. Perhaps on our next trip, maybe a longer one.

I also need to find a way to keep stuff (like the food, the cameras, the
batteries, the tape recorder, etc.) neat and accessible in the car. We
had to root around the bags to find anything, and the bananas were
getting squashed, and sometimes we just gave up looking for something,
in frustration.

Anyone have any ideas about that?

Mordechai

"Pete C." > wrote in message
...

> In that case I'll repeat my "rent and RV" suggestion. I don't know all
> the Kosher rules so I can't suggest anything there, but if you're
> intending to eat full meals on the road with 3 or 4 people, have
> special
> requirements on the type of food and can't eat at the typical truck
> stop
> then an RV would be a very big help. An RV gives you room to sit down
> at
> a table, a refrigerator to keep your food cold, a stove / microwave to
> heat your food and bathroom and sink facilities.
>
> Pete C.

Actually, I dream of renting an RV or some such thing and traveling
cross-country. Optimally, I'd like to visit as all of the continental
United States, especially if the RV can fit a freezer in there. This is
the kind of thing that has beds too, right?

Someday, I hope to do this.

"Charles Quinn" > wrote in message
. 125.201...
> "Mordechai Housman" > wrote in news:COrjg.4493
> $891.4041@trndny01:
>
>> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover
>> for
>> a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>>
>> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>>
>> It will be my wife and I, and a nine-year-old boy.
>>
>> What would you suggest I pack for food for these three people?
>
> Wrap some chicken breasts with butter and preferred spices in foil.
> Wrap
> several times. Place foil packs on engine, drive 3 or 4 hours. Stop
> and
> place chicken on spread smeared with butter and herbs. Enjoy.

How do you keep stuff on the engine while driving? Doesn't it fall off?

"Mordechai Housman" > wrote in newsZ4lg.239$NZ6.219
@trndny07:

> "Charles Quinn" > wrote in message
> . 125.201...
>> "Mordechai Housman" > wrote in news:COrjg.4493
>> $891.4041@trndny01:
>>
>>> I'm going to be on the road for about 8 or 9 hours, with a stopover
>>> for
>>> a few hours,and then 8 or 9 hours back.
>>>
>>> We will be traveling there during the day, and returning at night.
>>>
>>> It will be my wife and I, and a nine-year-old boy.
>>>
>>> What would you suggest I pack for food for these three people?
>>
>> Wrap some chicken breasts with butter and preferred spices in foil.
>> Wrap
>> several times. Place foil packs on engine, drive 3 or 4 hours. Stop
>> and
>> place chicken on spread smeared with butter and herbs. Enjoy.
>
> How do you keep stuff on the engine while driving? Doesn't it fall off?

Under hoses or other things under the hood.

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Mordechai Housman wrote:
> I also need to find a way to keep stuff (like the food, the cameras, the
> batteries, the tape recorder, etc.) neat and accessible in the car. We
> had to root around the bags to find anything, and the bananas were
> getting squashed, and sometimes we just gave up looking for something,
> in frustration.
>
> Anyone have any ideas about that?

Stackable boxes.

We never really eat in the car, while driving, too.

Some people eat while watching tv, or at the movies, or in the car. I
don't know why, but we don't seem to do that much.

Karen

Karen wrote:
> Mordechai Housman wrote:
>> I also need to find a way to keep stuff (like the food, the cameras, the
>> batteries, the tape recorder, etc.) neat and accessible in the car. We
>> had to root around the bags to find anything, and the bananas were
>> getting squashed, and sometimes we just gave up looking for something,
>> in frustration.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas about that?
>
> Stackable boxes.

I've heard of folks using liquor boxes, with the cardboard sectionals.
I don't eat a lot in my car either.