Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

wrote:
> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

Good luck finding any real delis west of the Mississippi river. In
California any shop that makes sandwiches calls itself a deli. Rule of
thumb; if you can't get knishes it's not a real deli. This is true of
most restaurant things in CA. You'll find shops serving "Philly Steak
and Cheese sandwiches" made with everything from American to Swiss
cheese, everything, that is, *EXCEPT* Provolone cheese. Now you're not
likely to find better Mexican or Chinese food outside CA so I suppose it
all evens out in the end

--
L'Chaim

Miriam

In the beginning
the Word already was.

wrote:
>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

There is a Jerry's Deli in Costa Mesa. That's probably about as close
as you'll get to a decent jewish deli. Here's their address:

Jerry's Deli
3210 Park Center Drive
Costa Mesa, Ca 92626
Tel: 714-662-3354
Fax: 714-662-3363

Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
what you're looking for.

Cathy

"cathy" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>>> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?
>
> There is a Jerry's Deli in Costa Mesa. That's probably about as close
> as you'll get to a decent jewish deli. Here's their address:
>
> Jerry's Deli
> 3210 Park Center Drive
> Costa Mesa, Ca 92626
> Tel: 714-662-3354
> Fax: 714-662-3363
>
> Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
> Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
> what you're looking for.<<


Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his ham
salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!

wrote:
>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

There's also a place in Laguna Hills that is strictly Kosher (as in
closed Saturdays, etc), called the Kosher Bite. They're at 23595
Moulton Pkwy., Ste. H, Laguna Hills, (949) 770-1818

Beyond that, well, there really isn't anything else in Orange County
that qualifies even remotely as a "decent" Jewish deli. You have to
head up into LA for that. And even then, the pickings are pretty slim.

Cathy

"Steve Wertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:47:16 +0100, Pinky & Perky sing sad songs
> for the Lebanon wrote:
>
>> Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his ham
>> salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>
> This is what you get for cross-posting, folks.
>
> A bunch of freaks. That's what<


I beg your pardon?

Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
> "cathy" > wrote in message
> ...
>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>>>>where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?
>>
>>There is a Jerry's Deli in Costa Mesa. That's probably about as close
>>as you'll get to a decent jewish deli. Here's their address:
>>
>>Jerry's Deli
>>3210 Park Center Drive
>>Costa Mesa, Ca 92626
>>Tel: 714-662-3354
>>Fax: 714-662-3363
>>
>>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
>>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
>>what you're looking for.<<
>
>
>
> Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his ham
> salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>
>

I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher.
Just famous.

"Margaret Suran" > wrote in message
k.net...
>
>
> Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
>> "cathy" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>>>>>where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?
>>>
>>>There is a Jerry's Deli in Costa Mesa. That's probably about as close
>>>as you'll get to a decent jewish deli. Here's their address:
>>>
>>>Jerry's Deli
>>>3210 Park Center Drive
>>>Costa Mesa, Ca 92626
>>>Tel: 714-662-3354
>>>Fax: 714-662-3363
>>>
>>>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
>>>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
>>>what you're looking for.<<
>>
>>
>>
>> Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his ham
>> salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>
> I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher. Just
> famous.<<


Well, speaking as a xenophobic chauvinist pig, I deplore people who eat
pork - I feel so much safer amongst Muslims and Jews (but not that 'Jerry'
character, obviously! - he needs a sharp word from his Rabbi, if you ask me)

On 23-Jul-2006, Margaret Suran > wrote:

> Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
> > "cathy" > wrote in message


> >>
> >>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
> >>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
> >>what you're looking for.<<
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his
> > ham
> > salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
> >
> >
>
> I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher.
> Just famous.

The bigot to whom you reply, who pretends to be a Xian, and
thus not actually interested in kashrus, is not interested in
facts like that. Especially if it gets in the way of his hysterical
hate-mongering.

Susan

cathy wrote:
> wrote:
> >> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
> >> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

> Beyond that, well, there really isn't anything else in Orange County
> that qualifies even remotely as a "decent" Jewish deli. You have to
> head up into LA for that.

Yes - Canter's came to mind right away, but that's in
LA.(www.cantersdeli.com) I'd say they're dewfinitely the real deal. AND
they're open 24/7.

> wrote in message news:snSwg.6316$yN3.3682@trnddc04...
>
> On 23-Jul-2006, Margaret Suran > wrote:
>
>> Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
>> > "cathy" > wrote in message
>
>
>> >>
>> >>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
>> >>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if it's
>> >>what you're looking for.<<
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with his
>> > ham
>> > salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher.
>> Just famous.
>
> The bigot to whom you reply, who pretends to be a Xian,<


Ahhhhhhhh! that abbreviation of the Name, again!

It's sad to see you abandoning your religious heritage, just to try and
please the descendants of bloodthirsty savages who murdered their Messiah.

They hate him so much that they cannot bear even to write His holy name - so
consumed are they by blind rage.

Don't try to be like them, Sue - you know in your heart that they despise
you for being a 'convert' , so don't pander to the bigoted hate-filled
liars, rather stand up and tell them that they will be destroyed, and that
the pitiful remnant that remain alive will be only too glad to acknowledge
their Messiah, from the very depths of their irradiated hearts!

On 22 Jul 2006 21:39:45 -0700,
rummaged among random neurons and opined:

> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?

Nope - I've lived here for 5 years and have assiduously researched
this very subject. Outside of Jerry's in Costa Mesa and Kosher Bite in
Laguna Hills, neither of which appeal, you're outta luck. This here
part of SoCal is strictly white bread, Republican country.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...the sole Dem in the county with a
hankerin' fer hot slab pastrami on Russian rye, gone
unrequited...dammit
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Most vigitaryans I iver see looked enough like their food to be
classed as cannybals."

Finley Peter Dunne (1900)

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:31:13 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> wrote:

>Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...the sole Dem in the county with a
>hankerin' fer hot slab pastrami on Russian rye, gone
>unrequited...dammit

I tell ya, go to Langers!! But you got to head into LA for that...

Christine, who has to come back to CA next week to report for jury
duty on August 7.

Squeaks wrote:

>> Are there any decent ones around Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach,
>> where one can get beef tongue, chopped liver, other good stuff?
>
> Nope - I've lived here for 5 years and have assiduously researched
> this very subject. Outside of Jerry's in Costa Mesa and Kosher Bite in
> Laguna Hills, neither of which appeal, you're outta luck. This here
> part of SoCal is strictly white bread, Republican country.

Have you seen this web site?

http://www.ochillel.org/oc/kosher.php

Links at the bottom purport to offer similar information for San Diego, Los
Angeles, and Las Vegas.

Bob

"Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon"
> wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> news:snSwg.6316$yN3.3682@trnddc04...
>>
>> On 23-Jul-2006, Margaret Suran >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
>>> > "cathy" > wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> >>
>>> >>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
>>> >>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if
>>> >>it's
>>> >>what you're looking for.<<
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with
>>> > his
>>> > ham
>>> > salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher.
>>> Just famous.
>>
>> The bigot to whom you reply, who pretends to be a Xian,<
>
>
> Ahhhhhhhh! that abbreviation of the Name, again!
>
> It's sad to see you abandoning your religious heritage, just to try
> and please the descendants of bloodthirsty savages who murdered their
> Messiah.
>
> They hate him so much that they cannot bear even to write His holy
> name - so consumed are they by blind rage.
>
> Don't try to be like them, Sue - you know in your heart that they
> despise you for being a 'convert' , so don't pander to the bigoted
> hate-filled liars, rather stand up and tell them that they will be
> destroyed, and that the pitiful remnant that remain alive will be only
> too glad to acknowledge their Messiah, from the very depths of their
> irradiated hearts!

Is this guy for real?

> wrote in message
news:snSwg.6316$yN3.3682@trnddc04...
>
> On 23-Jul-2006, Margaret Suran >
> wrote:
>
>> Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon wrote:
>> > "cathy" > wrote in message
>
>
>> >>
>> >>Here's the website: http://www.jerrysfamousdeli.com/
>> >>Their menu is on the website, that should give you a good idea if
>> >>it's
>> >>what you're looking for.<<
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jerry obvious takes a relaxed approach to dietary laws, what with
>> > his
>> > ham
>> > salads!...........only a barbarian would eat Ham!!
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I do not see anywhere that Jerry's claims to be Jewish or Kosher.
>> Just famous.
>
> The bigot to whom you reply, who pretends to be a Xian, and
> thus not actually interested in kashrus, is not interested in
> facts like that. Especially if it gets in the way of his hysterical
> hate-mongering.

Forgive my butting in. Another element that I noticed is that the
original poster asked for a Jewish deli. While, I, as an Orthodox Jew,
will consider only KOSHER food to be Jewish, I am aware that sadly, many
Jewish people don't share that view. So I wasn't quite sure what was
being requested, nor, for that matter, what sort of answers were being
given. I'm not a member of SCJ, but I am a member of RFC, and as such I
would say that there is no reason I can think of that too many RFCers
would be likely to even think of that aspect. If asked about a Jewish
deli, it is logical that many on RFC would not consider the kashrus
factor, and there is no reason to expect them to think in terms of
kosher and non-kosher.

Christine Dabney > wrote:

>Christine, who has to come back to CA next week to report for jury
>duty on August 7.

How does that work? Is that federal court perchance? With
municipal or superior court, if you live out of state (or even
out of the county) you don't have to serve.

Steve

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 05:22:50 +0000 (UTC),
(Steve Pope) wrote:

>Christine Dabney > wrote:
>
>>Christine, who has to come back to CA next week to report for jury
>>duty on August 7.
>
>How does that work? Is that federal court perchance? With
>municipal or superior court, if you live out of state (or even
>out of the county) you don't have to serve.
>
>Steve

Right at the moment, I still am a resident of California: officially
traveling away from home on business. I haven't changed all my
residency stuff to NM yet...and I have my reasons for this. I won't do
that for another month or so. So I have to go to the court...

It is superior court. I was told by the court, that I had to show up
and talk to the judge, to get excused.

Christine, hoping to get excused.

> Forgive my butting in.<

Thnik nothing of it, you're more than welcome.

> Another element that I noticed is that the original poster asked for a
> Jewish deli. While, I, as an Orthodox Jew,.....<<

Good - since you're here, perhaps you'd give an Orthodox opinion on
conversion to Judaism?

Simply put, if a non-Jew embraces Judaism and practices all the tenets of
that faith, does that make him or her 'Jewish'?

"Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon"
> wrote in message
...

> Good - since you're here, perhaps you'd give an Orthodox opinion on
> conversion to Judaism?

I'm not sure where you mean by "here." Do you RFC, or SCJ? Due to
cross-posting, the netiquette of which I've never been too certain, some
of my posts are also showing up at SCJ, where I imagine many people have
already stated opinions about such Jewish matters. And RFC I don't think
it's really the place for such a discussion.

> Simply put, if a non-Jew embraces Judaism and practices all the
> tenets of that faith, does that make him or her 'Jewish'?

Simply answered: Absolutely yes! To be on the safe side, let me
add: And it is a great sin to say otherwise. This is assuming that the
person has done everything the way it is supposed to be done, which I am
assuming because you said "practices all the tenets of that faith."
That's one of the tenets.

We can discuss this further via private e-mail, if you'd like. I'd
prefer not to annoy Usenet posters (or whatever the correct appellation
is -- I hope I have not offended anyone).

Christine Dabney wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 20:31:13 -0700, Terry Pulliam Burd
> > wrote:
>
>> Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd...the sole Dem in the county with a
>> hankerin' fer hot slab pastrami on Russian rye, gone
>> unrequited...dammit
>
> I tell ya, go to Langers!! But you got to head into LA for that...
>
> Christine, who has to come back to CA next week to report for jury
> duty on August 7.



Do you really still have to report if you have moved out of state?
That seems unusually stringent and even illegal if you are no longer a
resident.

gloria p

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:42:30 GMT, Puester >
wrote:

>Do you really still have to report if you have moved out of state?
>That seems unusually stringent and even illegal if you are no longer a
>resident.

Again, I have NOT moved out of state yet. My legal status is that I am
traveling away from home on a business contract: I am still a resident
of California. As I mentioned before, I haven't given up my residency
there yet, for several reasons, and for another month or so, I will
officially continue to be a California resident. Thus, I have to
appear for jury duty.

And I have gone over and over this with the superior court clerk. The
only way I can get of this service is to talk with the judge.

Christine

"Christine Dabney" > wrote

> And I have gone over and over this with the superior court clerk. The
> only way I can get of this service is to talk with the judge.

Hey, what's the big deal, so you'll have a warrant out for your
arrest. Just don't get pulled over by the cops. (smile)

nancy

Christine Dabney > wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:42:30 GMT, Puester >

>>Do you really still have to report if you have moved out of state?
>>That seems unusually stringent and even illegal if you are no longer a
>>resident.

>Again, I have NOT moved out of state yet. My legal status is that I am
>traveling away from home on a business contract: I am still a resident
>of California. As I mentioned before, I haven't given up my residency
>there yet, for several reasons, and for another month or so, I will
>officially continue to be a California resident. Thus, I have to
>appear for jury duty.

>And I have gone over and over this with the superior court clerk. The
>only way I can get of this service is to talk with the judge.

Right.

It is my guess that when you tell the judge you are not maintaining a
residence in the area you've been called to serve in, and would
therefore have to pay for a hotel or similar in order to serve,
they will excuse you.

Unless it's Alameda County, in which case you're SOL.

Steve

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:44:08 -0600, Christine Dabney
> rummaged among random neurons and opined:

>Right at the moment, I still am a resident of California: officially
>traveling away from home on business. I haven't changed all my
>residency stuff to NM yet...and I have my reasons for this. I won't do
>that for another month or so. So I have to go to the court...
>
>It is superior court. I was told by the court, that I had to show up
>and talk to the judge, to get excused.
>
>Christine, hoping to get excused.

Christine, I don't think you need to worry. Judges routinely excuse
people with excuses such as this. You can also check in online:

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/jury/

And if all else fails, tell 'em you're a practicing Luddite and
believe in death by hanging, poor houses and trial by duelling at 20
paces.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
AAC(F)BV66.0748.CA

"Most vigitaryans I iver see looked enough like their food to be
classed as cannybals."

Finley Peter Dunne (1900)

To reply, replace "spaminator" with "cox"

On 25-Jul-2006, "Mordechai Housman" > wrote:

> X-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:44:26 EDT (nwrddc01.gnilink.net)
>
> "Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon"
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Good - since you're here, perhaps you'd give an Orthodox opinion on
> > conversion to Judaism?
>
> I'm not sure where you mean by "here." Do you RFC, or SCJ? Due to
> cross-posting, the netiquette of which I've never been too certain, some
> of my posts are also showing up at SCJ, where I imagine many people have
> already stated opinions about such Jewish matters. And RFC I don't think
> it's really the place for such a discussion.

He is trying to bait me, because he keeps pretending that I'm not Jewish.
I will e-mail you the specifics, if you like -they are quite amuding.

>
> > Simply put, if a non-Jew embraces Judaism and practices all the
> > tenets of that faith, does that make him or her 'Jewish'?
>
> Simply answered: Absolutely yes!

He has been told this every time he's tried to deny it.

> To be on the safe side, let me
> add: And it is a great sin to say otherwise. This is assuming that the
> person has done everything the way it is supposed to be done, which I am
> assuming because you said "practices all the tenets of that faith."
> That's one of the tenets.
>
> We can discuss this further via private e-mail, if you'd like.

Consideirng that he is a known Jew-hater, under many guises, I would not
advise this.

Susan

> I'd
> prefer not to annoy Usenet posters (or whatever the correct appellation
> is -- I hope I have not offended anyone).

Clarify yourself woman. Is a Jew-hater some one who hates Jews or a
Jew that hates? Your use of this language is like that of an Israeli
in his or her 6th year of school. In other words you don't have enough
sense to acquire a paying job on Eretz Israel scrubbing toilets.

wrote:
> On 25-Jul-2006, "Mordechai Housman" > wrote:
>
> > X-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:44:26 EDT (nwrddc01.gnilink.net)
> >
> > "Pinky & Perky sing sad songs for the Lebanon"
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > Good - since you're here, perhaps you'd give an Orthodox opinion on
> > > conversion to Judaism?
> >
> > I'm not sure where you mean by "here." Do you RFC, or SCJ? Due to
> > cross-posting, the netiquette of which I've never been too certain, some
> > of my posts are also showing up at SCJ, where I imagine many people have
> > already stated opinions about such Jewish matters. And RFC I don't think
> > it's really the place for such a discussion.
>
> He is trying to bait me, because he keeps pretending that I'm not Jewish.
> I will e-mail you the specifics, if you like -they are quite amuding.
>
> >
> > > Simply put, if a non-Jew embraces Judaism and practices all the
> > > tenets of that faith, does that make him or her 'Jewish'?
> >
> > Simply answered: Absolutely yes!
>
> He has been told this every time he's tried to deny it.
>
> > To be on the safe side, let me
> > add: And it is a great sin to say otherwise. This is assuming that the
> > person has done everything the way it is supposed to be done, which I am
> > assuming because you said "practices all the tenets of that faith."
> > That's one of the tenets.
> >
> > We can discuss this further via private e-mail, if you'd like.
>
> Consideirng that he is a known Jew-hater, under many guises, I would not
> advise this.
>
> Susan
>
> > I'd
> > prefer not to annoy Usenet posters (or whatever the correct appellation
> > is -- I hope I have not offended anyone).

Squeaks wrote:

> if all else fails, tell 'em you're a practicing Luddite and believe in
> death by hanging, poor houses and trial by duelling at 20 paces.

No need to LIE. Just repeatedly snatch at invisible insects buzzing around
your head and mutter imprecations under your breath.

Bob

Bob Terwilliger > wrote:

>Squeaks wrote:

>> if all else fails, tell 'em you're a practicing Luddite and believe in
>> death by hanging, poor houses and trial by duelling at 20 paces.

>No need to LIE. Just repeatedly snatch at invisible insects buzzing around
>your head and mutter imprecations under your breath.

Neither story would phase a judge here in Alameda County.

Once during voir dire, I told the court that based on media
publicity of the crime, I believed the accused was guilty (a
true statement on my part, and one probably shared by 90% of the
public), and that was still not sufficient to get me booted off.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:
> >And I have gone over and over this with the superior court clerk. The
> >only way I can get of this service is to talk with the judge.
>
> Right.
>
> It is my guess that when you tell the judge you are not maintaining a
> residence in the area you've been called to serve in, and would
> therefore have to pay for a hotel or similar in order to serve,
> they will excuse you.
>
> Unless it's Alameda County, in which case you're SOL.
>
> Steve

I * do*maintain a residence there... How many times do I have to tell
you all that I am still a resident there? I do everything...I maintain
a residence there (a cabin in Idyllwild), I vote there, my car is
registered there, my banking address is there, my mailing address is
there..etc. I have not changed anything to NM at this point, and I
won't for another few months.
When I travel as a travel RN, I am classified as traveling away from
home. I don't "move" from place to place, I travel away from home.
That is why I am eligible for the perks of being a traveler..with tax
free housing. It's all part of the IRS code...

Yes, I am starting to rent a house in NM. But my permanent residence,
until September at least, and maybe til October is still in California.


Christine