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![]() Michel Boucher wrote: > "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 > @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > > > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France > > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. > > Gauging by the description of your reactions, you obviously believe > tourists can impose their values on others rather than "when in > Rome...". Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit down...??? -- Best Greg |
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![]() gRunge whinges: > He'd better not take iff his shoes in front of me > dumbo american Yet your "patron" Jacqueline takes off more than that in front of you all the time, gRunge...!!! -- Best Greg "and she's BELGIAN..." > "Joseph Coulter" > a écrit dans le message > de news: ... > > "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 > > @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > > > >> I go in another one, I order just one item and sit down to > >> read. I take off my shoes and put my foot up on a chair, > >> which, in the USA is 100% OK at the fifty or so Starbucks > >> I've been to throughout the US -- so long as you take off > >> your shoes of course! > > > > I know I for one would find this behavior to be at least as rude as the > > cigarette smoking Frenchman who at least has cultural habit on his side. > > > > -- > > Joseph Coulter > > Cruises and Vacations > > http://www.josephcoulter.com/ > > > > |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in ink.net: > Michel Boucher wrote: > >> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 >> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> >> > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France >> > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. >> >> Gauging by the description of your reactions, you obviously >> believe tourists can impose their values on others rather than >> "when in Rome...". > > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit > down...??? More than what? -- "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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![]() Padraig Breathnach wrote: > wrote: > > > >Bailey Legull wrote: > >> Ugly American tourists want to know. > > > >Applying logic, are Irish people who go to Irish pubs across the globe > >automatically Ugly Irish? > > I'll stay neutral on the specific question, but I will comment that > most Irish people I know have little inclination to visit Irish pubs > overseas. The reasoning is simple: why spend good money to travel and > then seek the experiences you can have at home? Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to Nizhny Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" Ireland. They are almost as ubiquitous as McDonalds and are more "concept" than "reality"... -- Best Greg |
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![]() Bailey Legull wrote: > I go to France as often as I can. Some of my fondest memories include > getting coffee first thing in the morning from some little > hole-in-the-wall bar or cafe and watching men in overalls sweep the > sleeping city clean with big orange brooms. That would be Mixi leading a tour group... -- Best Greg |
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![]() Michel Boucher wrote:... > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in ink.net: > > > Michel Boucher wrote: > > > >> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 > >> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > >> > >> > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France > >> > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. > >> > >> Gauging by the description of your reactions, you obviously > >> believe tourists can impose their values on others rather than > >> "when in Rome...". > > > > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit > > down...??? > > More than what? More than those patrons who stand at the counter...??? -- Best Greg |
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:32:30 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote: >"Gregory Morrow" > wrote >in ink.net: > >> Michel Boucher wrote: >> >>> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 >>> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >>> >>> > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France >>> > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. >>> >>> Gauging by the description of your reactions, you obviously >>> believe tourists can impose their values on others rather than >>> "when in Rome...". >> >> Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit >> down...??? > >More than what? In Italy and I guess France but I am not sure, you pay far less to stand at the "bar" and eat or to take it away, but if you want to eat at a table that same food will cost more. aloha, Cea --smithfarms.com farmers of pure kona roast beans to kona to email |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to Nizhny > Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" Ireland. They > are almost as ubiquitous as McDonalds and are more "concept" than > "reality"... I had a good time in an Irish Pub in Copenhagen. We had wanted to take someone out for some drinks because he had worked so hard to help us out with some family stuff and we knew that someone else was getting the credit. He had suggested the spot. It was a nice place, and one of the very few places we found in that country were prices didn't make us almost faint. |
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![]() "Zox" wrote> Hello coffee addicts, <<ill-tempered, self-centered, whiny rant snipped>> > So there you are. Folks have already paid far too much attention to your little rant, but I just can't resist --- you're a self-centered, insensitive little twerp, Zox .. . . you better hope you never sit me next to me when you take of your shoes and plant your feet on a chair . . |
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![]() Dave Smith wrote: > Gregory Morrow wrote: > > > Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to Nizhny > > Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" Ireland. They > > are almost as ubiquitous as McDonalds and are more "concept" than > > "reality"... > > I had a good time in an Irish Pub in Copenhagen. We had wanted to take > someone out for some drinks because he had worked so hard to help us out with > some family stuff and we knew that someone else was getting the credit. He had > suggested the spot. It was a nice place, and one of the very few places we > found in that country were prices didn't make us almost faint. > The guy(s) who run those Irish pub franchises are good businessmen. They can ship an "authentic" Irish pub most anywhere in the world and have it up and running in no time... When the Iron Curtain started breaking up Irish pubs were often the first "western" - type businesses that opened up in some of these countries. IIRC there was one opened at Moscow's Sheremetyevo Airport in the late 80's or so, it was the first private business to open in that airport. Of course that also may have had something to do with Air Rianta (Irish Airports Authority) being given the franchise to operate the duty - frees at some Russian airports... Unlike the American franchise McDonalds, Irish pubs don't carry any "cultural imperialism", etc. baggage. I mean who doesn't love an Irish pub? Some French farmer isn't going to attack the place and in India you don't have to adjust to local vegan food customs, etc., etc... Canny business people those Irish! -- Best Greg |
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Joseph Coulter > wrote:
> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 > @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > > > I go in another one, I order just one item and sit down to > > read. I take off my shoes and put my foot up on a chair, > > which, in the USA is 100% OK at the fifty or so Starbucks > > I've been to throughout the US -- so long as you take off > > your shoes of course! > > I know I for one would find this behavior to be at least as rude as the > cigarette smoking Frenchman who at least has cultural habit on his side. Wow. Cigarette smoking gets up my nose, physically. My eyes sting, my throat hurts. 2nd hand cigarette smoke is one the biggest drawbacks on the otherwise pleasurable pursuit of travel. My worst reaction to someone putting their feet up on a chair would be mild indignance, but I'd still be OK. They'd have to have _very_ smelly feet for it to have a physical effect. I'm genuinely surprised you can equate the two- and for the record, I don't think it's "OK" to put your feet up on seats- or at least, I don't do it. -- David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk http://homepage.mac.com/davidhornecomposer http://soundjunction.org |
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Gregory Morrow wrote:
> > > I had a good time in an Irish Pub in Copenhagen. We had wanted to take > > someone out for some drinks because he had worked so hard to help us out > with > > some family stuff and we knew that someone else was getting the credit. He > had > > suggested the spot. It was a nice place, and one of the very few places we > > found in that country were prices didn't make us almost faint. > > > > The guy(s) who run those Irish pub franchises are good businessmen. They > can ship an "authentic" Irish pub most anywhere in the world and have it up > and running in no time... Just have lots of beer and whiskey and the Irish will come :-) There is one in a city near here. Some friends of mine play there, Irish music of course. > Unlike the American franchise McDonalds, Irish pubs don't carry any > "cultural imperialism", etc. baggage. I mean who doesn't love an Irish pub? > Some French farmer isn't going to attack the place and in India you don't > have to adjust to local vegan food customs, etc., etc... Irish cuisine, and i use the term loosely, is a lot of meat and potatoes, so vegetarians are pretty much SOL on that account. No self respecting Irishmen is going to cook up a batch of Irish Vegan Stew with tofu instead of lamb. |
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:45:08 -0500, notbob > wrote:
>On 2006-08-09, > wrote: > >> In Italy and I guess France but I am not sure, you pay far less to >> stand at the "bar" and eat or to take it away, but if you want to eat >> at a table that same food will cost more. > >Are you serious? And how do they know? Are there Starbucks that >actually have table service? Is this commom practice at other eating >establishments, this butt space pricing versus foot space pricing? > >nb They only have so much table and chair space. I know this is for sure in Firenze/Florence. They ask if you are eating in or not. Makes sense to me. I do not know about Starbucks because although they are on every street corner, I never have visited one. (We bring our own coffee or have it shipped. We are coffee farmers after all<g>.) I am talking about lunch or dinner places. aloha, Cea --smithfarms.com farmers of pure kona roast beans to kona to email |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote in
news ![]() >> > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit >> > down...??? >> >> More than what? > > More than those patrons who stand at the counter...??? I don't know. Is that significant to this convo or are you just feeling playful tonight? -- "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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Dave Smith > wrote in
: > If something says 5 Euros, it's 5 > Euros, tax and service included. Almost all prices in Europe include VAT or other sales tax. I say almost all because some picky person will come up with an exception like salt or gas... -- "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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"Gregory Morrow" > wrote
in nk.net: > Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to > Nizhny Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" > Ireland. We have an English pub here in Ottawa that puts on the green for Saint Patrick's Day. I find that a bit bizarre. -- "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell |
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Dave Frightens Me writes:
> Wouldn't worrying about health be more effective? Hygiene is an aspect of health. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Padraig Breathnach writes:
> I'll stay neutral on the specific question, but I will comment that > most Irish people I know have little inclination to visit Irish pubs > overseas. The reasoning is simple: why spend good money to travel and > then seek the experiences you can have at home? The main reason for Irish pubs abroad is to give Irish expats an excuse for staying in a foreign country. Anyone can open a pub. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Gregory Morrow writes:
> The guy(s) who run those Irish pub franchises are good businessmen. They > can ship an "authentic" Irish pub most anywhere in the world and have it up > and running in no time... All you need is alcohol. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Thus spaketh Zox:
> Hello coffee addicts, > > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. > Why would you want to even enter a Starbucks, let alone drink the crap they serve? -- DVD rental: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/dvd PAYG Mobile Offers: www.southeastbirmingham.co.uk/payg Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk |
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![]() Michel Boucher wrote: > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in > news ![]() > >> > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit > >> > down...??? > >> > >> More than what? > > > > More than those patrons who stand at the counter...??? > > I don't know. Is that significant to this convo or are you just > feeling playful tonight? Don't we have to first establish whether there *are* any Starbucks outlets in Italy? ;---) -- Best Greg |
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![]() Michel Boucher wrote: > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote > in nk.net: > > > Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to > > Nizhny Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" > > Ireland. > > We have an English pub here in Ottawa that puts on the green for Saint > Patrick's Day. I find that a bit bizarre. I can beat that -- in Chicago we have an English pub that is actually Scots... -- Best Greg |
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![]() Zox wrote: > Hello coffee addicts, > > I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France > and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. > > 1. I go in one near Bastille in Paris, and Starbucks needless to say > is nonsmoking, which is a big relief in a place like France. > But after I sit down some dumbo French dope walks in with a lit > cigarette and sits down, without being told by anyone who works there > that he can't enter with a cigarette. Idiots! I resolved the > situation eventually. > > 2. I go in another one, I order just one item and sit down to > read. I take off my shoes and put my foot up on a chair, > which, in the USA is 100% OK at the fifty or so Starbucks > I've been to throughout the US -- so long as you take off > your shoes of course! At this French Starbucks however > some jerkoff worker approaches wearing a yellow shirt, > which is against Starbucks regulations, not only tells me > to put my foot down but clearly is already ****ed off and gives me > a hand sign as if to say "better not do it again". Little ****er! > I should have smacked him upside the head. Later I called up > to talk to the manager and he says he wanted me to > come all the way to the cafe to complain in person. > Yeah right! I did my part entirely and he wants more! > This was the store at the pompidou center in paris. > I also tried complaining to headquarters via email but > unsurprisingly it appears that feature is broken on > the Starbucks.fr website. > ERMMM..... so did you do anything right ?? Rosie |
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"Craig Welch" > wrote in message
... > Zox wrote: > >>> He probably took off his shoes, which would drive anyone from the >>> place. >> >> Peter, you're a dirty little skanky smoker, aren't you? >> >> Did you know that smoking causes lung cancer >> and makes people want to strangle you? > > It doesn't cause lung cancer. It is associated with a higher risk of lung > cancer. That's not the same thing. At least half the attraction of food is based on scent. Unless everything you eat contains pepperoni, it's pretty hard for food aromas to cut through a haze of smoke. And, by the way, I smoke, but never in the house, and never around people who are eating. |
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![]() "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote in message ... > > At least half the attraction of food is based on scent. Unless everything > you eat contains pepperoni, it's pretty hard for food aromas to cut > through a haze of smoke. And, by the way, I smoke, but never in the house, > and never around people who are eating. > And unless your meal contains lots of Parmesan or Romano cheese, smelly feet would cause loss of appetite at the very least. Last time I checked, nobody puts smelly cheese in their coffee, even at Starbucks. |
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Anyone who goes to Starbucks in the first place has to have his head
examined. Overpriced yuppie junk. And worse yet, the jerk goes to one in Europe! If you're going to do that, stay home! JohnP "PeterL" > wrote in message ups.com... > > Joseph Coulter wrote: >> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 >> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> >> > I go in another one, I order just one item and sit down to >> > read. I take off my shoes and put my foot up on a chair, >> > which, in the USA is 100% OK at the fifty or so Starbucks >> > I've been to throughout the US -- so long as you take off >> > your shoes of course! >> >> I know I for one would find this behavior to be at least as rude as the >> cigarette smoking Frenchman who at least has cultural habit on his side. > > I would definitely agree with that. It's not OK in any restaurant or > coffee shops I go to in the US. > >> >> -- >> Joseph Coulter >> Cruises and Vacations >> http://www.josephcoulter.com/ > |
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Dave Smith wrote:
> wrote: > > > > > >> Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit > > >> down...??? > > > > > >More than what? > > In Italy and I guess France but I am not sure, you pay far less to > > stand at the "bar" and eat or to take it away, but if you want to eat > > at a table that same food will cost more. In Italy, when the menu says your drink costs X, many cafes will charge you: X if you drink it at the counter 2X if you sit at a table inside 3X if you sit at a table outside In France there's generally a small difference between counter and table prices, but not like in Italy. > I don't know about Italy, but in many parts of western Europe, service is > automatically included in the price. If something says 5 Euros, it's 5 > Euros, tax and service included. That's a separate issue. Restaurants usually add the tip to the bill in most of Europe, but cafes usually don't. |
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On 2006-08-10, Iceman > wrote:
> In Italy, when the menu says your drink costs X, many cafes will charge > you: > > X if you drink it at the counter > > 2X if you sit at a table inside > > 3X if you sit at a table outside How many x's if you're riding off on your Vespa? nb |
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![]() notbob wrote: > On 2006-08-10, Iceman > wrote: > > In Italy, when the menu says your drink costs X, many cafes will charge > > you: > > > > X if you drink it at the counter > > > > 2X if you sit at a table inside > > > > 3X if you sit at a table outside > > How many x's if you're riding off on your Vespa? If you're quick enought it's free ;--) -- Best Greg |
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:20:43 GMT, Craig Welch wrote:
> Some people like to smoke. Some don't. It's what's generally called a > 'freedom of choice' matter. If you don't like smoking, don't go where > people smoke. He went into a non-smoking establishment, where no one was smoking when he ordered his coffee. Shouldn't that be enough? -- -BB- To e-mail me, unmunge my address |
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On 9 Aug 2006 12:30:47 -0700, "Zox" > wrote:
>Hello coffee addicts, > >I've gone to three Starbucks while being a tourist in France >and I have to say, 2 out of 3 have sucked. Thank you for confirming to the French that all Americans are uneducated boors. You make an ass out of yourself by ASSUMING that behavior that is tolerated in teh Us will equally be tolerated elsewhere. What a frigging brain-dead moron you are. You must make your mother proud - she did want a moron for a son, did she not? jim |
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Aaaah the US and hey presto ! She's back
Duuuuh "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" > a écrit dans le message de news: ... > > > Joseph Coulter wrote: > >> "Zox" > wrote in news:1155151847.776385.46220 >> @b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> >> >>> I go in another one, I order just one item and sit down to >>>read. I take off my shoes and put my foot up on a chair, >>>which, in the USA is 100% OK at the fifty or so Starbucks >>>I've been to throughout the US -- so long as you take off >>>your shoes of course! >> >> >> I know I for one would find this behavior to be at least as rude as the >> cigarette smoking Frenchman who at least has cultural habit on his side. > > I have NEVER been in a restaurant in the U.S. where they allowed that sort > of thing - even Micky D's! >> > |
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Lol morrow socializing in pubs
Poor, lonesome morrow "Gregory Morrow" > a écrit dans le message de news: et... > > Michel Boucher wrote: > >> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote >> in nk.net: >> >> > Besides which the "Irish Pubs" to found everywhere from Papeete to >> > Nizhny Novgorod to Caracas are hardly representative of the "real" >> > Ireland. >> >> We have an English pub here in Ottawa that puts on the green for Saint >> Patrick's Day. I find that a bit bizarre. > > > I can beat that -- in Chicago we have an English pub that is actually > Scots... > > -- > Best > Greg > > > |
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You sure act like one, 8 years and still understands nothing
"Gregory Morrow" > a écrit dans le message de news: t... > > Dave Frightens Me wrote: > >> On 9 Aug 2006 13:37:08 -0700, "aem" > wrote: >> >> > >> >Dave Frightens Me wrote: >> >> >> >> Gosh, are you an American by any chance? >> >> >> > >> >Now that's funny, but no, trolls don't have nationalities. -aem >> >> It's not his first post, so I don't think it's a troll. > > > I've been on Usenet for eight years now and there are still those who > claim > I'm a troll... > > -- > Best > Greg > > > > |
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He is a little excited, waiting for Jacqueline to appear
"Michel Boucher" > a écrit dans le message de news: ... > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in > news ![]() >>> > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit >>> > down...??? >>> >>> More than what? >> >> More than those patrons who stand at the counter...??? > > I don't know. Is that significant to this convo or are you just > feeling playful tonight? > > -- > > "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth > is a revolutionary act." > > George Orwell |
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Cretinus martin's ******* son
"Gregory Morrow" > a écrit dans le message de news: et... > > Michel Boucher wrote: > >> "Gregory Morrow" > wrote in >> news ![]() >> >> > Do the Starbucks in Rome charge more for patrons who wish to sit >> >> > down...??? >> >> >> >> More than what? >> > >> > More than those patrons who stand at the counter...??? >> >> I don't know. Is that significant to this convo or are you just >> feeling playful tonight? > > > Don't we have to first establish whether there *are* any Starbucks outlets > in Italy? > > ;---) > > -- > Best > Greg > > > |
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