cybercat wrote:
> It is so weird, man, really it is. I think it all boils down to whether or
> not
> you can look any human in the eye and just identify with the things you
> have in common. Anybody who can do that--empathize--is not going
> to condone, tolerate or promote racist bullshit of any kind. (Life is just
> hard enough without being hated on sight.)
>
> Those who do get taken care of in the school of "what goes around
> comes around." I have seen it time and time again.

Yep. Amazing how life works like that.

>Better think twice
> before you jump on the bandwagon and kick those who are already
> "down" because of bigoted business/social practices. Among other
> worthy outcomes, you might find you have beloved grandchildren
> who are being kept from fulfilling their potential by bigots like you.

Karma's a bitch.

-L.

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:

> Michael
>
> --
> "I live on good soup and not fine words"
> --Moliere, La Femmes Savantes


have a cool blues song?

http://tinyurl.com/kx3gs
<rt click, save target>

prolly better than that pork glosh you mixed up yesterday
whew! garlic and buttermilk! you are brave! but very creative.

Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> "-L." >
> ups.com:
>
> >
> > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> >> Quite frankly I don't see all the fuss anyway. As you said, almost
> >> all immigrant nationalities, races and religions have been joked
> >> about and/or hated. Being Irish and *** I've had the double whammy
> >> Personally I think the jokes are funny. I can laugh at myself.
> >
> > I don't think it's funny when there's real hatred behind it. The
> > anti-Mexican fervor out here is unbelievable.
> >
> > -L.
>
> There will always be hatred until the ignorant and uneducated become
> educated. Until then, I refuse to lose my sense of humor over it.

'Zactly... it's not the shade, it's the depth. When one envisions
their own tone so deep as to block out all light then one wonders if
that individual is really the same as others underneath. Folks
incapable of laughing at themeslves are the very ones who hate to their
impotent core... they hate themselves

Sheldonskin (Thick n' Translucent)

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
I bit my tongue, but felt like
> asking them were they aware that the Pennsylvania Dutch are those who have
> an actual condition called 'Maple Syrup disease' exclusive to their
> community resulting from inbreeding.


I'd never heard of Maple Syrup disease so I did some quick web research.
The name comes from the odor of the urine of an infant affected by it.
It smells like burnt sugar.


The condition is not exclusive to the Mennonite community of
Pennsylvania, but it is more prevalent there, as high as 1 per 176
newborns in that population as opposed to 1 per 180,000 in the rest of
the U.S.


As with any inherited disease, the disease is not caused by inbreeding,
but is more likely to show up with inbreeding. This is a narrow but
important distinction. An inherited disease shows up at random, but if
the population is large enough, the chances of 2 parents both carrying
the disease (no symptoms) marrying and passing it on to their children
(with symptoms because they've inherited it from both sides) are slim.
As the population gets smaller (greater chance of inbreeding), the
chances increase of infants inheriting the disease.


So if, by some chance, you had a population with no inherited diseases
whatsover, even brother/sister, mother/son and father/daughter incest
wouldn't matter from a disease perspective (although I bet everyone here
finds the idea icky, at least for human populations).


I got some of my information he
http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic1368.htm


--Lia

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:

> Yup! I just noticed that the P in yup is silent. Well, not silent,
> but different. More like the first half of a B, but without the B
> sound. Call me on the phone and I'll say it for you.


I can describe the difference in sounds you're talking about. The /p/
sound in "pit" is called aspirated. There's an explosion of air
released that had been stopped between the lips. The final /p/ sound in
"yup" is unaspirated meaning that the air is stopped and not released.
English speakers tend not to notice the difference because there's no
difference in meaning. You could aspirate the /p/ in yup, and everyone
would still know what you meant, but in many other languages, those
would be 2 different words.


--Lia

cybercat > wrote in message
...
[snip]
> Wow, what a bunch of morons some of you are. On
> both sides of the fence--southern and northern--and
> across the yard, out west. It might be best to stick
> to cooking talk. ( I am a southerner AND a northerner.

How cosmopolitan of you but the irony from your simple-minded
"observation" above is streaking on past you.

> And I have a functioning brain so I don't make
> stupid generalizations based upon imagined regional
> character.)

Another fly-by... Wow.

BTW: I seem to have missed any cooking references within your article.
Try not to trip over your feet on the way off your step-ladder because
you've pointed your nose so high...

ObFood: Philly Cheesesteak from Tony Luke Jr.'s, Oregon Street.

The Ranger

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:12:02 -0700, "Dave Bugg" >
> wrote:
>
>>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>
>>> Watch how many people spell Minnesota weird, to emphasize the way we
>>> pronounce it wrong.
>>
>>Yah, shore. You betcha!!
>
> You spelled, "shooor," wrong. I don't know anyone who actually SAYS
> that.
>
> But I do say you betcha. And I say ya instead of yes pretty
> frequently too, I guess.
>
> Carol in Minnesoda

All I know, from when you called me, is that listening to you call me
"bitch" in that sweet, sweet voice you have is the funniest thing I've heard
in a long time.

Lisa Ann

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Lisa Ann" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Derek Lyons" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "aem" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>Luke Kilpatrick wrote:
>> >>> [a fairly typical indignant defense of the target of jokes that
> struck
>> >>> too close to home]
>> >>
>> >>Next is usually a 'hey, can't you tell a joke from a real insult?'
>> >>post, then some more jokes in the spirit of piling on, then either the
>> >>thread branches to semi-relevant side topics that popped up by chance
>> >>or it descends to personal attacks and name-calling.
>> >
>> > The funny part is this; if someone starting posting 'jokes' about
>> > blacks, or Jews, or gays, or women... The outrage and uproar would be
>> > loud and sustained. And *nobody* would tell any blacks/Jews/gays
>> > "hey, its just a joke, deal with it".
>> >
>> > But somehow - it's OK when the target is Southerners?
>>
>> For the same reason, I presume, that it's "okay" to poke fun at men,
> blondes
>> and other groups that don't have the ACLU standing behind them.
>>
>> I doubt that anyone here on this group would actually move to the south
> and
>> start proclaiming some of the joking that was posted here as The Truth.
>> (Although I am serious that going to a bar and singing "Marching Thru
>> Georgia" could probably get you seriously injured at worst, escorted out
> of
>> the premises at best.)
>>
>> I'm not a native Southerner, obviously, but I come from a state that has
>> been the butt of jokes in the Midwest for ages - Indiana. And while it's
>> okay for *me* to tell jokes about Indiana, there's a line that I don't
> want
>> other people to cross.
>>
>> After less than a week here, however, I've already encountered 2nd hand
> some
>> of the bigotry that Luke is protesting against. I had a job interview
>> Tuesday (for a job in my original field, yay!). While interviewing,
>> Glenn
>> was telling me he'd been evaluating the software that I (or whoever he
>> hires, but I'm thinking positive here!) hires...and that he was
>> completely
>> turned off and insulted by the salesman for Number One Provider in the
>> Country, because Salesman for NOPitC treated him...well, since Glenn
> seemed
>> to be grasping for words that didn't involve profanity, I provided him
> with
>> my version: "He was condescending and patronizing. And I can tell you
>> why." (I've dealt with NOPitC for years, and their sales people only
>> seem
>> to have manners when your company is on the Fortune 100 *and* your
> corporate
>> address is in the Northeast. Considering they're headquartered in
>> Dublin,
>> OH and are *not* on the Fortune 100, I find this funny.) The thing is,
>> NOPitC really is the best software package out there...but I can
>> guarantee
>> that Glenn is not going to buy it just because of that salesman. And
>> it's
>> not going to hurt Glenn's project a bit that he's not buying the "Jaguar"
>> software. And Glenn doesn't *have* a Southern accent - he's from
> Cleveland,
>> for heaven sakes. But Corporate is in South Carolina, so obviously
> Salesman
>> from NOPitC "knows" that everyone employed there is mentally deficient.
>>
>> I'm not sure why I'm rambling about this, except I understand Luke taking
>> offense. It's funny when Jeff Foxworthy or Bill Engvald or Ron White
>> make
>> jokes about the South - because it's okay to make fun of yourself - and
>> they're so obviously joking. But it can easily stop being funny when
> other
>> people keep piling it on and give the impression that they believe what
>> they're saying.
>>
>> Lisa Ann
>>
>>
>
> I have a college education and consider my self fairly conservative in
> appearance (no Daisy Duke's on this 40+ year old body), but I actually
> walked out of an interview in Philadelphia when I had an interviewer ask
> 'do
> YAWL actually date YAWL brothers down there?' reacting to my growing up in
> NC being obvious in my speech. I couldn't resist it, but I picked up my
> stuff, headed for the door and turned and responded 'not if our brothers
> are
> anything nearly resembling your type which makes farm animals look
> promising'.
> I actually couldn't face another interview for a while after that, I get
> the
> condescending remarks and people with less education than I talking down
> to
> me because they assume I am stupid because of my accent. If you get to
> know
> me, and still think I'm stupid, well that's your perogative, but don't
> judge
> me just because of where I came from.
> -ginny
>

Not only was the question stupid and offensive, but he mis-used the word
"y'all". I hate it when people use it as the singular thinking they're
being cutesy.

That being said, I loved your response to him!

Lisa Ann

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> JoeSpareHeadroom wrote:
>>
>> People love to generalize. People often say idiotic things about
>> New York, thinking everyone here's a carbon copy of Hillary Clinton.
>
> Utter nonsense, even an imbecile like you should know she's a NY
> wannabe from of all places, the redneckiest of all, Arkansas! Get a
> friggin' IQ, you lying piece of shit.
>
> Sheldon
>

Actually, originally, she's from Park Ridge, IL - a Chicago suburb. I have
no doubt she regards her time in Arkansas as time in purgatory.

Lisa Ann

Sheldon wrote:

> Sheldonskin (Thick n' Translucent)

Barrys hair? translucent, I tried to go platinum, since it was dark
brown to begin with and then.. 4 blonde kits later... it's glowing very
light orange.. like a blonde circus peanut

I goto the filling station and a colleague says "what the hell have you
done to your head" I Just grinned and whipped my hat off.. it was down
right shocking..
the whole lot of them was laughing at me.

that's cool, that's all i wanted anyway was some attention

i don't give a rip how I come about it either

wooooooooooooooo!

In article >, says...

> Wow, what a bunch of morons some of you are. On both sides
> of the fence--southern and northern--and across the yard, out
> west. It might be best to stick to cooking talk. ( I am a southerner
> AND a northerner. And I have a functioning brain so I don't make
> stupid generalizations based upon imagined regional character.)
>
>

Boy, you have just hit the nail on the head.

--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

In article >,
says...
> > Wow, what a bunch of morons some of you are. On
> > both sides of the fence--southern and northern--and
> > across the yard, out west. It might be best to stick
> > to cooking talk. ( I am a southerner AND a northerner.
>
> How cosmopolitan of you but the irony from your simple-minded
> "observation" above is streaking on past you.
>
> > And I have a functioning brain so I don't make
> > stupid generalizations based upon imagined regional
> > character.)
>
> Another fly-by... Wow.
>

In case you didn't understand - which of course you did not - you are
one of the people he is talking about, with 100% accuracy. You calling
anyone "simple-minded" is like Danny DeVito calling someone "short."


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

In article .com>,
says...

> People who
> > wouldn't *think* of making racial jokes about blacks think nothing of
> > telling a joke about Mexicans or a joke using "broken English" poking
> > fun at Chinese people.
>
>
> What's wrong with that...???
>

You really don't know? We all know that you are not the sharpest knife
in the drawer, but this is going a bit far!



--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Peter A > pewled in message
...
[snip forgettable mewling whinge]

Bite me, Pete. Since you're too stupid to understand how to filter me, I
will continue causing you such pain and suffering as my prose allows.

ES&D.

The Ranger
--
Peter Aiken: Living proof of why cousins should marry.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:42:36 -0400, Julia Altshuler
> wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
>> Yup! I just noticed that the P in yup is silent. Well, not silent,
>> but different. More like the first half of a B, but without the B
>> sound. Call me on the phone and I'll say it for you.
>
>I can describe the difference in sounds you're talking about. The /p/
>sound in "pit" is called aspirated. There's an explosion of air
>released that had been stopped between the lips. The final /p/ sound in
>"yup" is unaspirated meaning that the air is stopped and not released.
>English speakers tend not to notice the difference because there's no
>difference in meaning. You could aspirate the /p/ in yup, and everyone
>would still know what you meant, but in many other languages, those
>would be 2 different words.

Thanks, Julia!

Carol

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:51:24 -0400, "Lisa Ann"
> wrote:

>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:12:02 -0700, "Dave Bugg" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>>
>>>> Watch how many people spell Minnesota weird, to emphasize the way we
>>>> pronounce it wrong.
>>>
>>>Yah, shore. You betcha!!
>>
>> You spelled, "shooor," wrong. I don't know anyone who actually SAYS
>> that.
>>
>> But I do say you betcha. And I say ya instead of yes pretty
>> frequently too, I guess.
>>
>> Carol in Minnesoda
>
>All I know, from when you called me, is that listening to you call me
>"bitch" in that sweet, sweet voice you have is the funniest thing I've heard
>in a long time.

LOL! There she was, marveling at how sweet and adorable I sounded, so
I called her a bitch. "Okay, there's my Damsel!" (or something along
those lines) I had to prove it was really me, and not someone nice
who was claiming to be me. <EG>

Carol

Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>
> Watch how many people spell Minnesota weird, to emphasize the way we
> pronounce it wrong. And NO ONE talks like the people in the movie,
> "Fargo."

No one expected you to - you're not in North Dakota. However, many
natives of Fargo do speak that way. I can also tell you that people
from the part of central Wisconsin my sister has lived in for the past
25 years have a distinct accent that reflects the Scandinavian heritage
of that area.

> We do eat hotdish, though. Just not lutefisk.
>
I still have no idea what hotdish is.

> Carol, reaching for a blood pressure pill

Over accents?

On 11 Aug 2006 11:26:19 -0700, "sf" > wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>
>> Watch how many people spell Minnesota weird, to emphasize the way we
>> pronounce it wrong. And NO ONE talks like the people in the movie,
>> "Fargo."
>
>No one expected you to - you're not in North Dakota. However, many
>natives of Fargo do speak that way. I can also tell you that people
>from the part of central Wisconsin my sister has lived in for the past
>25 years have a distinct accent that reflects the Scandinavian heritage
>of that area.

The movie "Fargo" took place in Minnesota. However, I was born in
Fargo. Lived there for an entire 18 months. My ex tells me that when
you go way farther north in Minnesota, people start sounding more like
that.

>> We do eat hotdish, though. Just not lutefisk.
>>
>I still have no idea what hotdish is.

Casserole.

Caaarol (I guess we have sort of a drawl)

In article >,
says...

> Bite me, Pete.
>

"Bite me?" Are we in junior high school here? Well, you are, apparently,
in mind if not in body. Would it really bring you pleasure to cause me
"pain and suffering?" Is pestering people you don't know on the
newsgroups the height of your life? Does it make you feel good about
yourself? So it seems. Sad but true.


--
Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On 11 Aug 2006 11:26:19 -0700, "sf" > wrote:
>
>>Damsel in dis Dress wrote:
>>>
>>> Watch how many people spell Minnesota weird, to emphasize the way we
>>> pronounce it wrong. And NO ONE talks like the people in the movie,
>>> "Fargo."
>>
>>No one expected you to - you're not in North Dakota. However, many
>>natives of Fargo do speak that way. I can also tell you that people
>>from the part of central Wisconsin my sister has lived in for the past
>>25 years have a distinct accent that reflects the Scandinavian heritage
>>of that area.
>
> The movie "Fargo" took place in Minnesota. However, I was born in
> Fargo. Lived there for an entire 18 months. My ex tells me that when
> you go way farther north in Minnesota, people start sounding more like
> that.
>
>>> We do eat hotdish, though. Just not lutefisk.
>>>
>>I still have no idea what hotdish is.
>
> Casserole.
>
> Caaarol (I guess we have sort of a drawl)

We MUST get together on Skype)))

Peter A > wrote in message
...
> > Bite me, Pete.
> >
> "Bite me?" Are we in junior high school here?

I respond to the level that's appropriate. You haven't matured beyond
jr. high so why would I elevate the dialogue to a higher level? Repeat
after me: "Keep it simple."

> Would it really bring you pleasure to cause me "pain and
> suffering?" Is pestering people you don't know
[snip remaining prattle]

You find a masochist's pleasure in reading everything I post so the pain
and suffering is an indirect result.

As far as "pestering people I don't know," I'm sure They're out there.
But, unlike you, They don't need to let me know just how far under their
collective skins I've gotten.

Feel free to keep proving me right.

The Ranger
--
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you really really are a
stupid, inane, vapid and petty little piece of excrement.
- TeaLady, AFU

Peter A wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
> > Wow, what a bunch of morons some of you are. On both sides
> > of the fence--southern and northern--and across the yard, out
> > west. It might be best to stick to cooking talk. ( I am a southerner
> > AND a northerner. And I have a functioning brain so I don't make
> > stupid generalizations based upon imagined regional character.)
> >
> Boy, you have just hit the nail on the head.
>
and both of you contributed to a continuation of the morons

you must be so proud

lox with creme fraiche and red onions

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121...
> "-L." >
> ups.com:
>
> >
> > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote:
> >> Quite frankly I don't see all the fuss anyway. As you said, almost
> >> all immigrant nationalities, races and religions have been joked
> >> about and/or hated. Being Irish and *** I've had the double whammy
> >> Personally I think the jokes are funny. I can laugh at myself.
> >
> > I don't think it's funny when there's real hatred behind it. The
> > anti-Mexican fervor out here is unbelievable.
> >
> > -L.
>
> There will always be hatred until the ignorant and uneducated become
> educated. Until then, I refuse to lose my sense of humor over it.
>
> Michael
>

Don't lose your backbone, either.

"Michael "Dog3" Lonergan" > wrote in message
6.121...
> "cybercat" > :
>
> >>
> >> There will always be hatred until the ignorant and uneducated become
> >> educated. Until then, I refuse to lose my sense of humor over it.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >
> > Don't lose your backbone, either.
>
> Oh, I have plenty of backbone. I've marched, paraded, done charity work
> etc. and I'm not afraid of a good battle over a cause I'm passionate
about.
> OTOH, life to me is meant to be lived to the fullest every day. I don't
> let the little stuff get me down. Quite frankly, I mostly ignore ignorant
> people. It's usually more effective than an open confrontation, not that
> I'm afraid of confrontation. I've found that ignoring them bothers them
> more than a good argument.
>
> Michael
>

I see. I guess I was just saying that it would be a shame for the pendulum
to swing so far the other way that you don't even "call" bigots and bullies
on their behavior. Silence suggests tacit approval. I don't get upset, but
I do take the time to say, "Asshole."