In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> > Not really a silly question... ;-)
> >> >
> >> > IMHO hanging a lid on a hook can be a pita sometimes.
> >> > Being able to just set it down, well, I don't see much of an issue with
> >> > it since you are cooking _outdoors_!!!
> >> > Peace!
> >> > Om
> >>
> >> OK. If all your drinking glasses are in the dishwasher, is it OK to drink
> >> milk from a wine glass? How about a mug? A blue one. Can it be done?
> >
> > Smart azz...... ;-)
> >
> > The "question" was rhetorical.
> > Why do you take everything so literally?
>
>
> Because you're half asleep and it's fun.

Beast. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article . net>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
> > In article . net>,
> > "Gregory Morrow" > wrote:
> >
> > > LadyJane writhed:
> > >
> > > > I've cooked legs of ham, lamb, turkey, chickens, and the family
> > > > favourite, whole rump, in the weber. It's magnificent particularly for
> > > > larger pieces of meat.
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you get the extra - large Weber Durex condom to "protect" yerself,
> > > luv...???
> >
> > Down boy!!!!! <lol>
>
>
> From some of her descriptions, I wonder if "LadyJane" moans when she
> cooks...!!!

<lol>
Don't forget that food can be sensuous...
And there are people that like to cook naked.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article . net>,
"Gregory Morrow" > wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>
> > OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > > In article >,
> > > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Also, get one with a hinged lid. I had one with a loose
> > >>> lid. It is a PITA every time you open it to have to find a place to
> > >>> set that huge lid.
> > >>
> > >> Huge, huh? What size grill did you get?! I don't think Katra needs
> > >> a huge grill. Mine is the 24" model. Just set the lid on the
> > >> ground; it's not like you're setting the food on the ground, after
> > >> all.
> > >
> > > I was wondering about that. I can set the lid on the ground or on
> > > stone edging?
> > >
> > I set mine down on the concrete patio. Don't have a problem with it. Oh,
> > and you're so lucky to have an abundant supply of suitable grilling woods!
> > The only thing around here is PINE.
>
>
> Well, I guess you could do resin - baked potatoes :-)
>
> Om IS lucky, buying some of these grilling woods from a store can be a
> pretty expensive proposition...

ROAD TRIP! <G>

Just think of the money you could make selling it locally?
Especially Mesquite!

I have two mesquite trees in the yard and gather any and all dropped
branches from the big one. The big old one out front has about a 24"
base.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
>
> >> I know. But Om asked if it's OK to set the lid on the ground, which
> >> was the silliest question of the day. Then, jm took the question
> >> seriously and actually responded to it, saying "I set mine down on
> >> the concrete patio. Don't have a problem with it." Since she
> >> specified that it was OK to set it on concrete, I wondered about
> >> other paving materials. What about astroturf?
> >
> This is why I have this joebedroom guy killfiled.

Meh. he's frequently funny. ;-)

>
> > Not really a silly question... ;-)
> >
> > IMHO hanging a lid on a hook can be a pita sometimes.
> > Being able to just set it down, well, I don't see much of an issue
> > with
> > it since you are cooking _outdoors_!!!
> >
> My Weber kettle doesn't have a hook. I have no idea what this refers to.
> The lid has a top handle, that's it. There's a side handle on the kettle
> part of the grill itself; you can hang tongs and the like from it and use it
> to tilt the grill to move it around on the wheels. No hook for hanging the
> lid and seems like that would be awkward at best.
>
> Jill

<shrugs> I have a big yard.
Being able to put it on the ground just isn't a problem.
Worrying about it just seemed to be a bit strange to me is all!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> I set mine down on the concrete patio. Don't have a problem with
> >> it. Oh, and you're so lucky to have an abundant supply of suitable
> >> grilling woods! The only thing around here is PINE.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> > Ew! Shiver... ;-)
> >
> > Might be worth it to take a truck and road trip......
>
> Heh, I don't have a truck and I'd have to go pretty far to get wood like you
> describe. I simply use lump charcoal and buy some hickory, mesquite or
> apple wood chips if I want something more.
>
> Jill

That works..... :-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >
> >> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> >> news > >>> In article >,
> >>> The Bubbo > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >>>>> Considering purchasing one. They have some right now at the local
> >>>>> HEB and they are not expensive.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a New Braunfels smoker, but it's a PITA to use it for
> >>>>> grilling...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Opinions? They are not that expensive and assembly is easier than
> >>>>> what I
> >>>>> went thru before. <G> Plus it'd be easier to keep clean and I
> >>>>> won't have
> >>>>> to worry about the expense of replacing it when the bottom burns
> >>>>> out of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a very plain weber kettle grill. It was a gift to me in
> >>>> 1997. I use it
> >>>> frequently in the summer. I lie in minnesota, it lives out in the
> >>>> snow and the
> >>>> rain and the heat. I don't wash it, love it or give it any
> >>>> attention and it's
> >>>> still it great shape. it's not shiny new beautiful, but i don't
> >>>> need it to be.
> >>>> They're very tough grills. My only complaint is that I really
> >>>> can't come up
> >>>> with any convenient way to get the old ashes out.
> >>>
> >>> Ash removal is never convenient. <G>
> >>>
> >>> A couple of layers of the heavy duty foil laid under the fire grates
> >>> helps a lot in my smoker.
> >>> --
> >>> Peace!
> >>> Om
> >>
> >> You don't want to do the foil thing that way with the Weber. It'll
> >> block the vent holes and out goes your fire.
> >
> > Poke holes thru the foil for the vent holes?
> >
> > <shrugs> Just an idea. I've not taken a close look at the Weber yet.
> > The
> > only vents in the big smoker I have are the Baffle on one end and the
> > chimney at the other end. And I can leave the top open or closed.
> >
> The Weber has three areas of vent holes in the bottom that open and close
> (and are adjustable) by turning a little wheel-thing on each vent. You'd
> definitely need to poke holes in the foil to allow the necessary updraft of
> air to keep the coals lit. But hey, how much trouble could that be?
>
> Jill

I still think it would facilitate ash removal, even with holes poked in
it?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

> I still think it would facilitate ash removal, even with holes poked in
> it?

Sounds as though Jill has either an older model or a weber-look-alike.
But even my first weber had the hook attachment for the lid. The old
model is now serving some other family in the area - gave it away to
the local church's annual fete/garage sale.
I've not experienced any dramas with the lid & hooking it to the rim in
over 20 years. In fact, hooking it on the rim of the kettle provides
some protection to the coals - especially during intial heat up - which
seems to accelerate heating time.
My experience only - but then I did RTFM for the first and second
model. (Amazing what tips - and dare I say, features of the appliance -
you pick up when actually bothering to read the manual)
The newer models have a one-lever action (situated underneath the
kettle, above the ash-agitator lever) which adjusts the openings on all
three vents.
Given that you are likely to want to use this feature during the
cooking period, an external lever allows you to open/close vents
without having to use asbestos gloves (the kettle area and all vents
get bloody hot!)
During prolonged cooking (1+ hours) the ash created by spent coal
accumulates around the bottom of the kettle and inside the kettle, to
one side of the vents, there are 'pushers' for want of a better word,
which (when agitated by the other external lever) send the ash out
through the vents into the cannister at the base of the kettle.
There really is no need to line the interior with foil in fact I think
it would hamper the cooking process. Current weber is around 6 years
old, has done countless roasts/bbqs and the inside & base is not
corroded. A brush over with a bbq brush while still warm removes any
spillages & ash and haven't ever 'washed' the kettle interior. No need.
For ease of use I'd highly recommend making sure the kettle (weber or
otherwise) has both the vent opening & ash agitator levers as well as
the closed ash cannister (cheaper models just have an open tray which
collects ash, which can gust up the vents and onto your food! yuk!)

LadyJane
--
"Never trust a skinny cook!"

LadyJane > wrote:

>The newer models have a one-lever action (situated underneath the
>kettle, above the ash-agitator lever) which adjusts the openings on all
>three vents.

Maybe this is standard now, but when I bought my Weber it
was $10 or so extra for the "one-touch" feature. The basic
model had three vent areas, each three ventholes and each
with an individual control disk -- each identical to the
vent on the lid.

If it's still optional, you definitely want the "one-touch"
on a new Weber, due to the easier ash removal, and the
ability to close it off when you're finished without dealing
with hot surfaces.

Regarding the ash catcher itself, I'm not aware of any kettle
Weber's having anything better than the flimsy tray.

Steve

Steve Pope wrote:

> Regarding the ash catcher itself, I'm not aware of any kettle
> Weber's having anything better than the flimsy tray.


Steve,

watch....... and learn.
Can't believe this American icon, in the model I have, is available
here in Australia, yet not apparently in the US.

http://i7.tinypic.com/24v37g5.jpg
ash catcher cannister - please note: NOT flimsy tray

http://i8.tinypic.com/24v395c.jpg
cannister removed, with ash residue after 1-2 hours cooking

http://i8.tinypic.com/24v39g3.jpg
bottom section of weber, showing lever for ash cannister & lever for
air vents, ash removal

http://i8.tinypic.com/24v42fs.jpg
upper grill, with hinged sections for adding additional coals

http://i7.tinypic.com/24v42rs.jpg
THE hinge...on which to hang your lid
(Check out your weber jill... this is what we've been talking about)

http://i7.tinypic.com/24v4314.jpg
..... the entire weber

So, as you can see Steve, the weber I own does indeed have something
more substantial than a flimsy ash tray.

Thought I'd show the other features for Om, so you know what to look
for.
Apologies for the residue - we used it yesterday for a roast lamb.

cheers

LadyJane
--
"Never trust a skinny cook!"

Steve Pope wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> My Weber kettle doesn't have a hook. I have no idea what this
>> refers to. The lid has a top handle, that's it. There's a
>> side handle on the kettle part of the grill itself; you can
>> hang tongs and the like from it and use it to tilt the grill
>> to move it around on the wheels. No hook for hanging the lid
>> and seems like that would be awkward at best.
>
> It might be a pretty old Weber, or it could be you haven't
> noticed the small tab inside the lid. It's minimal (like
> all Weber design features) but it is the right shape tab
> for balancing the lid on the rim.
>
> Steve

Mine is about 10 years old. I bought it when I moved to this apartment and
have a nice spacious fenced patio which allows for grilling. Firemarshall
law requires at least a 15 foot space between dwelling and grilling. I have
a 22 sq. foot fenced in patio. One of the first things I did after moving
in was buy a Weber kettle! So yes, it's old. But I'll have to look inside
the lid for some sort of hook. Still seems rather silly when I can simply
set the lid on the patio while I turn the food

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46690505XyEPIb

http://tinyurl.com/g2hhf

I just wheel it away from the fence and the planting areas to the middle of
the patio and grill away! I do put it away in the built-in storage room off
the patio come winter. But otherwise it has withstood some rather
torrential rains and searing heat (heheh) without any problems.

Jill

LadyJane wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>
>> I still think it would facilitate ash removal, even with holes poked
>> in it?
>
> Sounds as though Jill has either an older model or a weber-look-alike.

Here's my Weber (yes, it's 10 years old):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46690505XyEPIb

or
http://tinyurl.com/g2hhf

> But even my first weber had the hook attachment for the lid. The old
> model is now serving some other family in the area - gave it away to
> the local church's annual fete/garage sale.
> I've not experienced any dramas with the lid & hooking it to the rim
> in over 20 years. In fact, hooking it on the rim of the kettle
> provides some protection to the coals - especially during intial heat
> up - which seems to accelerate heating time.
> My experience only - but then I did RTFM for the first and second
> model. (Amazing what tips - and dare I say, features of the appliance
> - you pick up when actually bothering to read the manual)
> The newer models have a one-lever action (situated underneath the
> kettle, above the ash-agitator lever) which adjusts the openings on
> all three vents.
> Given that you are likely to want to use this feature during the
> cooking period, an external lever allows you to open/close vents
> without having to use asbestos gloves (the kettle area and all vents
> get bloody hot!)

Asbestos?! Surely you didn't mean that. Asbestos is a no-no... not just
for the grill but for your own personal protection against various cancers.
Have you not heard of asbestos poisoning? I know a number of people who
work for an asbestos abatement firm who are busy trying to remove asbestos
from Memphis schools and older area businesses. I sure as heck hope no one
is selling asbestos gloves. Talk about "older model" - eeeek!

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> Asbestos?! Surely you didn't mean that. Asbestos is a no-no... Talk about "older model" - eeeek!
>
> Jill

It was a JOKE Joyce. Even in these remote colonies asbestos is no
longer used.

sheesh, some people are so literal.

Given that your weber must be as old as Methuselah figured the mention
of asbestos wouldn't create too much alarm.

hehehehe

Please feel free to substitute 'thermal gloves' for 'asbestos gloves'.

asbestos is a banned/regulated substance here in Oz too - shame it took
30 years to discover it's carcinogenic properties.

LadyJane
--
"Never trust a skinny cook!"
or one with asbestos gloves

LadyJane wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> Asbestos?! Surely you didn't mean that. Asbestos is a no-no...
>> Talk about "older model" - eeeek!
>>
>> Jill
>
> It was a JOKE Joyce.

Who is Joyce?

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>
>> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
>> news
>> > In article >,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Not really a silly question... ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> > IMHO hanging a lid on a hook can be a pita sometimes.
>> >> > Being able to just set it down, well, I don't see much of an issue
>> >> > with
>> >> > it since you are cooking _outdoors_!!!
>> >> > Peace!
>> >> > Om
>> >>
>> >> OK. If all your drinking glasses are in the dishwasher, is it OK to
>> >> drink
>> >> milk from a wine glass? How about a mug? A blue one. Can it be done?
>> >
>> > Smart azz...... ;-)
>> >
>> > The "question" was rhetorical.
>> > Why do you take everything so literally?
>>
>>
>> Because you're half asleep and it's fun.
>
> Beast. ;-)
> --
> Peace!
> Om

You like it. You know you do.

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> > In article >,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >> I know. But Om asked if it's OK to set the lid on the ground, which
>> >> was the silliest question of the day. Then, jm took the question
>> >> seriously and actually responded to it, saying "I set mine down on
>> >> the concrete patio. Don't have a problem with it." Since she
>> >> specified that it was OK to set it on concrete, I wondered about
>> >> other paving materials. What about astroturf?
>> >
>> This is why I have this joebedroom guy killfiled.
>
> Meh. he's frequently funny. ;-)

I think it bothers Ms. Q that when I see participants being lazy
(intellectually or otherwise), I call them on it, usually in ways that make
her want to smack me in the mouth. But she knows I'm right. People may learn
by asking, but I think you learn MORE by researching on your own first, and
by doing.

In article . com>,
"LadyJane" > wrote:

> Sounds as though Jill has either an older model or a weber-look-alike.
> But even my first weber had the hook attachment for the lid. The old
> model is now serving some other family in the area - gave it away to
> the local church's annual fete/garage sale.

<snipped for space>

Looks like I'll be doing some googling then to really look at these
beauties before actually purchasing one then. :-)

A little extra cost for a more "fancy" model might very well be money
well spent in the long run.

Mom taught me this concept:

"Never buy the cheapest you can get when it comes to appliances.
Always get the best you can afford....."
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Mine is about 10 years old. I bought it when I moved to this apartment and
> have a nice spacious fenced patio which allows for grilling. Firemarshall
> law requires at least a 15 foot space between dwelling and grilling. I have
> a 22 sq. foot fenced in patio. One of the first things I did after moving
> in was buy a Weber kettle! So yes, it's old. But I'll have to look inside
> the lid for some sort of hook. Still seems rather silly when I can simply
> set the lid on the patio while I turn the food
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46690505XyEPIb
>
> http://tinyurl.com/g2hhf
>
> I just wheel it away from the fence and the planting areas to the middle of
> the patio and grill away! I do put it away in the built-in storage room off
> the patio come winter. But otherwise it has withstood some rather
> torrential rains and searing heat (heheh) without any problems.
>
> Jill

No rust?
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> Here's my Weber (yes, it's 10 years old):
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46690505XyEPIb

Looks good!
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> >> Because you're half asleep and it's fun.
> >
> > Beast. ;-)
> > --
>
> You like it. You know you do.

<smirk>
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article >,
"JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:

> "OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
> news
> > In article >,
> > "jmcquown" > wrote:
> >
> >> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> >> > In article >,
> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" > wrote:
> >> >
> >>
> >> >> I know. But Om asked if it's OK to set the lid on the ground, which
> >> >> was the silliest question of the day. Then, jm took the question
> >> >> seriously and actually responded to it, saying "I set mine down on
> >> >> the concrete patio. Don't have a problem with it." Since she
> >> >> specified that it was OK to set it on concrete, I wondered about
> >> >> other paving materials. What about astroturf?
> >> >
> >> This is why I have this joebedroom guy killfiled.
> >
> > Meh. he's frequently funny. ;-)
>
> I think it bothers Ms. Q that when I see participants being lazy
> (intellectually or otherwise), I call them on it, usually in ways that make
> her want to smack me in the mouth. But she knows I'm right. People may learn
> by asking, but I think you learn MORE by researching on your own first, and
> by doing.

And by seriously reconsidering some statements before hitting "post". <G>
I sometimes need to practice that a bit more..... but I get careless
when I get tired and sleep deprived.

My initial reaction to that attack on me by Graeme over on a.b.f. is a
classic example. I could have handled it FAR better if I'd thought about
it for a bit instead of reacting emotionally. For some reason, it really
bothered me!

After thinking about it a bit more, I was quite disgusted with how I
allowed myself to react. Humor would have been far more appropriate.

Kinda like the way I generally deal with Shel's attacks. <G>

Oh well! Live and learn.....
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

jmcquown wrote:

> Steve Pope wrote:
> > jmcquown > wrote:
> >
> >> My Weber kettle doesn't have a hook.

> > It might be a pretty old Weber, or it could be you haven't
> > noticed the small tab inside the lid. It's minimal (like
> > all Weber design features) but it is the right shape tab
> > for balancing the lid on the rim.
> >
> > Steve
>
> Mine is about 10 years old.

Frankly, if you don't turn the lid over you'd probably never notice it.
On my 22", the small hook is attached where the top vent hole comes
through.

Usually I just set mine down on the bench near the grill.




Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

Steve Pope wrote:

> LadyJane > wrote:
>
> > The newer models have a one-lever action (situated underneath the
> > kettle, above the ash-agitator lever) which adjusts the openings on
> > all three vents.
>
> Maybe this is standard now, but when I bought my Weber it
> was $10 or so extra for the "one-touch" feature. The basic
> model had three vent areas, each three ventholes and each
> with an individual control disk -- each identical to the
> vent on the lid.

I bought my new one in 2001, and the base model 22" had the one-touch.

> If it's still optional, you definitely want the "one-touch"
> on a new Weber, due to the easier ash removal, and the
> ability to close it off when you're finished without dealing
> with hot surfaces.

Yeah, works pretty well.

> Regarding the ash catcher itself, I'm not aware of any kettle
> Weber's having anything better than the flimsy tray.

The "gold" models have a canister. I just removed the tray and put a
large galvanized bucket under the holes. It sits on the bottom rack
that otherwise I don't use.



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

LadyJane > wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> Regarding the ash catcher itself, I'm not aware of any kettle
>> Weber's having anything better than the flimsy tray.

>watch....... and learn.
>Can't believe this American icon, in the model I have, is available
>here in Australia, yet not apparently in the US.

>http://i7.tinypic.com/24v37g5.jpg
>ash catcher cannister - please note: NOT flimsy tray

Cool. First I've seen it, but I haven't looked over
new Webers for a few years.

Thanks.

Steve

On 2006-08-17, Steve Pope > wrote:

> Cool. First I've seen it, but I haven't looked over
> new Webers for a few years.

Those have been around for quite a few years. But, you're going to pay
considerably more for it.

http://www.weberstuff.com/webonetoucgo1.html

nb

notbob wrote:

> On 2006-08-17, Steve Pope > wrote:
>
> > Cool. First I've seen it, but I haven't looked over
> > new Webers for a few years.
>
> Those have been around for quite a few years. But, you're going to
> pay considerably more for it.
>
> http://www.weberstuff.com/webonetoucgo1.html

Yep, about $65 more. It also comes with the hinged grate. I just use a
large metal bucket, works great.



Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> "jmcquown" > wrote:
>
>> Mine is about 10 years old. I bought it when I moved to this
>> apartment and have a nice spacious fenced patio which allows for
>> grilling. Firemarshall law requires at least a 15 foot space
>> between dwelling and grilling. I have a 22 sq. foot fenced in
>> patio. One of the first things I did after moving in was buy a
>> Weber kettle! So yes, it's old. But I'll have to look inside the
>> lid for some sort of hook. Still seems rather silly when I can
>> simply set the lid on the patio while I turn the food
>>
>> http://community.webshots.com/photo/...46690505XyEPIb
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/g2hhf
>>
>> I just wheel it away from the fence and the planting areas to the
>> middle of the patio and grill away! I do put it away in the
>> built-in storage room off the patio come winter. But otherwise it
>> has withstood some rather torrential rains and searing heat (heheh)
>> without any problems.
>>
>> Jill
>
> No rust?

None whatsoever. I do put the grill away in the winter in the built-in
storage closet but nope, no problems with rust.

Jill