One time on Usenet, "Sandy" > said:
>
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Oh, I'm totally with you on the anti-tomato (ketchup, catsup, whatever you
> > want to call it) stuff on top of meatloaf. It's just *wrong*
>
> Yep, me too. I lay a few slices of bacon on top of mine (I *never*
> pack my meatloaf into a loaf pan, only free form the loaf in a roasting
> pan). It adds nice flavor and still goes well with whatever condiments
> you use along side. No ketchup for me, but I'm not opposed to a well
> doctored bbq sauce or salsa as a condiment.

*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:49:14 -0500, "jmcquown"
> wrote:

>Oh, I'm totally with you on the anti-tomato (ketchup, catsup, whatever you
>want to call it) stuff on top of meatloaf. It's just *wrong* Granted,
>my recipe for meatloaf does call for a 1/4 cup of bottled cocktail sauce
>mixed into the ground meat. But aside from some extra flavour and moisture
>you can't tell it's there. It's certainly not slathered on the top. I
>prefer a nice brown gravy with meatloaf. Or no gravy at all, since I don't
>always make mashed potatoes to go with it. (sacrilege, I'm sure!)

I put a little ketchup *in* my meatloaf, too. But I'd never frost my
meatloaf with tomato-anything. Doesn't go with the brown gravy.

And yes, you're commiting a cardinal sin by not making mashed potatoes
with meatloaf. And a can of corn. White corn.

Carol

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:

>*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
>mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Carol, running for her very life

In article >,
Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:
>
> >*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
> >mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
>
> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Carol, running for her very life

Actually, it sounds similar to mom's ham glaze... minus the ketchup.
<lol> She made a paste of dry mustard and raw sugar, wetted with just
enough pineapple juice to make a sticky paste to coat the ham with.

First, she'd cross-score it with a sharp knife, then after glazing, she
stuck a clove into each "square" of outer scoring.

Then she baked it.

Hope that makes sense? :-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen wrote:
> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
>> I wonder....... A savory fruit compote such as chutney might be
>> interesting?
>
> Perhaps:
>
> - soft onions and bell peppers with spices.
> - steamed spinach
> - mustard, red beets and capers
> - an equally sized omelet (between one of the meat spacings and one of
> the above between the other)

Oh, I like this idea! A filled omelet would hold the filling and also be
quite yummy!

Jill

OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article >,
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
>>> mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
>>
>> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Carol, running for her very life
>
> Actually, it sounds similar to mom's ham glaze... minus the ketchup.
> <lol> She made a paste of dry mustard and raw sugar, wetted with just
> enough pineapple juice to make a sticky paste to coat the ham with.
>
> First, she'd cross-score it with a sharp knife, then after glazing,
> she stuck a clove into each "square" of outer scoring.
>
> Then she baked it.
>
> Hope that makes sense? :-)

Not that ham is an excuse, but oh god! Not ketcup and sugar! Next thing
you'll be telling me there were pinapple rings and cherries! <G> Typical of
1960's ham preparation. Oh dear. We managed to survive, though

Jill

In article >,
"jmcquown" > wrote:

> OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian)
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> *Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
> >>> mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
> >>
> >> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> Carol, running for her very life
> >
> > Actually, it sounds similar to mom's ham glaze... minus the ketchup.
> > <lol> She made a paste of dry mustard and raw sugar, wetted with just
> > enough pineapple juice to make a sticky paste to coat the ham with.
> >
> > First, she'd cross-score it with a sharp knife, then after glazing,
> > she stuck a clove into each "square" of outer scoring.
> >
> > Then she baked it.
> >
> > Hope that makes sense? :-)
>
> Not that ham is an excuse, but oh god! Not ketcup and sugar! Next thing
> you'll be telling me there were pinapple rings and cherries! <G> Typical of
> 1960's ham preparation. Oh dear. We managed to survive, though
>
> Jill

NO NO NO!!!

Mustard and Sugar! No ketchup... :-)
With a bit of pineapple juice to wet it.

Dry mustard
Dry raw sugar
Pineapple juice
Cloves

;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:10:14 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
> wrote:

>Actually, it sounds similar to mom's ham glaze... minus the ketchup.
><lol> She made a paste of dry mustard and raw sugar, wetted with just
>enough pineapple juice to make a sticky paste to coat the ham with.
>
>First, she'd cross-score it with a sharp knife, then after glazing, she
>stuck a clove into each "square" of outer scoring.
>
>Then she baked it.

My mom did that with Spam, except she broiled it. I can't begin to
tell you how much I hated that. I'd rather eat a parsnip with
rosemary on it. (I hate parsnips and rosemary)

Carol

Mrs. Dash must die, after taking an infinite amount of time, finally, on
15 Aug 2006, typed out:

> http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/


Mrs. Dash,

I studied your dish and thought about it much of the day and it would
never have occured to me to try such a thing.

I'd definitely try a slice, as long it was hotter than it looked. That
cold cake image bothers me.

Maybe if the mashed potato icing were further covered in crumbled
French's French fried onions it'd be more palettable.

Or not...

Andy

Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:
> >*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
> >mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Carol, running for her very life

Sounds like the basic ingredients that start a lot of BBQ sauces.

JR

On 17 Aug 2006 14:35:37 -0600, JR > wrote:

>Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:
>> >*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
>> >mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
>> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Carol, running for her very life
>
>Sounds like the basic ingredients that start a lot of BBQ sauces.

You just said that to scare me. <G> And you're right about the
barbecue sauces.

Carol

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:41:31 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> wrote:

>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> Maybe the dreaded, mashed cauliflower?
>
>Oooooooooh, I like it. Do you just not like cauliflower? I used to make it
>w/cream cheese as a binder and it was goooooooood.

I like raw cauliflower. I haven't tried the mashed stuff, but it just
doesn't sound appealing to me at all. <burp>

Carol

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:47:40 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> wrote:

>NONONONONONONONO.......It's wrong, just wrong. Please don't hurt me....no
>rutabagas, no please, no. I've been good, please no!!!!
>
>helen <shaking and cowering in a corner. Far, far away from that biological
>weapon>

I like rutabagas.

Carol

One time on Usenet, Damsel in dis Dress > said:
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:
>
> >*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
> >mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
>
> ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Carol, running for her very life

Heh! I'll be sure not to make meatloaf if you ever come out for a
visit... :-)

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

One time on Usenet, OmManiPadmeOmelet > said:
> In article >,
> Damsel in dis Dress > wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:04:00 GMT, (Kthonian) wrote:
> >
> > >*Chuckle* I guess I'm a heathen, I put a combination of ketchup,
> > >mustard, and brown sugar on meatloaves...
> >
> > ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Carol, running for her very life
>
> Actually, it sounds similar to mom's ham glaze... minus the ketchup.
> <lol> She made a paste of dry mustard and raw sugar, wetted with just
> enough pineapple juice to make a sticky paste to coat the ham with.

Yup, only I used prepared mustard and brown sugar with my pineapple
juice.

> First, she'd cross-score it with a sharp knife, then after glazing, she
> stuck a clove into each "square" of outer scoring.

I've never used the cloves. I don't know why, as it's fairly common
or used to be. I do layer pineapple slices on my glaze though.

> Then she baked it.
>
> Hope that makes sense? :-)

Made sense to me... :-)

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

One time on Usenet, "Helen Harrand" > said:
> "Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:57:48 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > > wrote:

> > >I don't mind cold meatloaf (like for sandwiches) but I'm not so sure
> about
> > >chilled mashed potatoes!

> > They said they slice it cold and then nuke it before eating it - cold
> > potato would be icky!

> <helen puts down the bowl of cold smooshed taters w/gravy that she was
> eating and guiltily puts it back in fridge>

Hey, get those potatoes back out, Helen. Personally, I like all kinds
of leftovers cold...

--
"Kthonian" is Jani in WA
~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~

On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:36:29 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> wrote:

>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> I like rutabagas.
>
>An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!
>
>
>
><tongue planted firmly in cheek>

Ha! That's a good one. May I quote you?

Carol, insane in the membrane

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" > wrote in message
news
> In article >,
> (Kthonian) wrote:
>
> > One time on Usenet, "Mrs. Dash must die" >
> > said:
> >
> > > http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/
> >
> > Very clever! I called the guys (DH & DS) over to look at this and we
> > all loved the idea...
>
> <lol> I like that idea! :-)
> But for the hard core low carbers, I wonder what one could substitute
> for a spud "frosting"? <g>
> --
> Peace!
> Om
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
> -- Jack Nicholson


Well fauxtatoes of course! For those of you who don't know that's well
cooked mashed cauliflower combined w/sour cream, cream cheese, butter,
cheese, whatever you want. It's very tasty. It might be a little "thin"
but you can thicken anything with more cream cheese. Heck, you could use
all cream cheese for die hard low carbers.

Ooooooooooh, or Boursin if you could afford it!

helen

"Karen AKA Kajikit" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:57:48 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
> >I don't mind cold meatloaf (like for sandwiches) but I'm not so sure
about
> >chilled mashed potatoes!
>
> They said they slice it cold and then nuke it before eating it - cold
> potato would be icky!


<helen puts down the bowl of cold smooshed taters w/gravy that she was
eating and guiltily puts it back in fridge>

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:35:54 +0200, Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen
> > wrote:
>
> >Mrs. Dash must die wrote:
> >> http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/
> >
> >I am actually considering making this for my birthday....
>
> Crash wants me to make one, too. But no ketchup glaze. We'll use
> corn, mixed in with mashed potatoes, between layers
>
> >How about a lowcarb version? What could we use instead of mashed
potatoes?
>
> No clue. We're up with a sick dog, so I'm only running on one brain
> cell right now. Maybe the dreaded, mashed cauliflower?
>
> Carol


Oooooooooh, I like it. Do you just not like cauliflower? I used to make it
w/cream cheese as a binder and it was goooooooood.

helen

<Alan > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:35:54 +0200, Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen
> > wrote:
>
> >Mrs. Dash must die wrote:
> >> http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/
> >>
> >
> >I am actually considering making this for my birthday....
> >
> >How about a lowcarb version? What could we use instead of mashed
potatoes?
>
> You can make mashed rutabaga -- it looks much like mashed potatoes
> and has less carbs.
>
> Alan
>



AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGJJJJJJJJJJJJJJKKKKKKKK KKKK!!!!!!!!!!

NONONONONONONONO.......It's wrong, just wrong. Please don't hurt me....no
rutabagas, no please, no. I've been good, please no!!!!

helen <shaking and cowering in a corner. Far, far away from that biological
weapon>

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:47:40 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> > wrote:
>
> >NONONONONONONONO.......It's wrong, just wrong. Please don't hurt
me....no
> >rutabagas, no please, no. I've been good, please no!!!!
> >
> >helen <shaking and cowering in a corner. Far, far away from that
biological
> >weapon>
>
> I like rutabagas.
>
> Carol


An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!



<tongue planted firmly in cheek>
helen

In article >,
"Helen Harrand" > wrote:

> I wonder what one could substitute
> > for a spud "frosting"? <g>
> >
> Well fauxtatoes of course! For those of you who don't know that's well
> cooked mashed cauliflower combined w/sour cream, cream cheese, butter,
> cheese, whatever you want. It's very tasty. It might be a little "thin"
> but you can thicken anything with more cream cheese. Heck, you could use
> all cream cheese for die hard low carbers.
>
> Ooooooooooh, or Boursin if you could afford it!
>
> helen

Brie. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"Helen Harrand" > wrote

> Nononononono..........I'll leave it all for you. I don't think there can
> be
> enough of the other ingredients to mask that horrible, icky taste. And
> just
> for those who say I should try it again, I have. Hub goes to NL every
> year
> at T'giving to see his mom and I bought one last year or the year before
> just so I could try it again. Yeap, I still hate 'em!
>
> Bio weapon, I tell you!

That's all it's good for, I agree. That or use in catapulting
over enemy lines. Incoming rutabegas!

nancy

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:49:47 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> wrote:

>"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:36:29 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >>
>> >> I like rutabagas.
>> >
>> >An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><tongue planted firmly in cheek>
>>
>> Ha! That's a good one. May I quote you?
>>
>> Carol, insane in the membrane
>
>
>As long as I don't have to testify in open court!
>
>

THWACK!

> > > >I don't mind cold meatloaf (like for sandwiches) but I'm not so sure
> > about
> > > >chilled mashed potatoes!
>
> > > They said they slice it cold and then nuke it before eating it - cold
> > > potato would be icky!
>
> > <helen puts down the bowl of cold smooshed taters w/gravy that she was
> > eating and guiltily puts it back in fridge>
>
> Hey, get those potatoes back out, Helen. Personally, I like all kinds
> of leftovers cold...
>
> --
> "Kthonian" is Jani in WA
> ~ mom, Trollop, novice cook ~


I just felt guilty for a second. I've been eating (and enjoying) cold
leftovers all my life. Thanks for seconding it!

helen

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:36:29 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >>
> >> I like rutabagas.
> >
> >An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!
> >
> >
> >
> ><tongue planted firmly in cheek>
>
> Ha! That's a good one. May I quote you?
>
> Carol, insane in the membrane


As long as I don't have to testify in open court!



helen

<Alan > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:47:40 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> ><Alan > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 11:35:54 +0200, Michael Archon Sequoia Nielsen
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Mrs. Dash must die wrote:
> >> >> http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I am actually considering making this for my birthday....
> >> >
> >> >How about a lowcarb version? What could we use instead of mashed
> >potatoes?
> >>
> >> You can make mashed rutabaga -- it looks much like mashed potatoes
> >> and has less carbs.
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGJJJJJJJJJJJJJJKKKKKKK KKKKK!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >NONONONONONONONO.......It's wrong, just wrong. Please don't hurt
me....no
> >rutabagas, no please, no. I've been good, please no!!!!
> >
> >helen <shaking and cowering in a corner. Far, far away from that
biological
> >weapon>
> >
> Now, now... If you put in the requisite amounts of butter,
> milk/cream, salt, and pepper, it is VERY good!
>
> Alan
>
> ==
>
> It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death.
> I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything
> and let the problem take care of itself.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>

Nononononono..........I'll leave it all for you. I don't think there can be
enough of the other ingredients to mask that horrible, icky taste. And just
for those who say I should try it again, I have. Hub goes to NL every year
at T'giving to see his mom and I bought one last year or the year before
just so I could try it again. Yeap, I still hate 'em!

Bio weapon, I tell you!
helen

"Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:49:14 -0500, "jmcquown"
> > wrote:
>
> >Oh, I'm totally with you on the anti-tomato (ketchup, catsup, whatever
you
> >want to call it) stuff on top of meatloaf. It's just *wrong*
Granted,
> >my recipe for meatloaf does call for a 1/4 cup of bottled cocktail sauce
> >mixed into the ground meat. But aside from some extra flavour and
moisture
> >you can't tell it's there. It's certainly not slathered on the top. I
> >prefer a nice brown gravy with meatloaf. Or no gravy at all, since I
don't
> >always make mashed potatoes to go with it. (sacrilege, I'm sure!)
>
> I put a little ketchup *in* my meatloaf, too. But I'd never frost my
> meatloaf with tomato-anything. Doesn't go with the brown gravy.
>
> And yes, you're commiting a cardinal sin by not making mashed potatoes
> with meatloaf. And a can of corn. White corn.
>
> Carol


My mom's fave meal was meatloaf, mashed potatoes and peas. Whereas FBS
wants meatloaf, mac and cheese and french cut green beans.
-ginny
(who prefers the latter)

"Helen Harrand" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Damsel in dis Dress" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:47:40 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >NONONONONONONONO.......It's wrong, just wrong. Please don't hurt
> me....no
> > >rutabagas, no please, no. I've been good, please no!!!!
> > >
> > >helen <shaking and cowering in a corner. Far, far away from that
> biological
> > >weapon>
> >
> > I like rutabagas.
> >
> > Carol
>
>
> An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!
>
>
>
> <tongue planted firmly in cheek>
> helen
>
>

The emphasis should be firmly placed on the word 'relatively' .....(VBSEG)
-ginny

-

> >> >>
> >> >> I like rutabagas.
> >> >
> >> >An here I thought you were, relatively, normal!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> ><tongue planted firmly in cheek>
> >>
> >> Ha! That's a good one. May I quote you?
> >>
> >> Carol, insane in the membrane
> >
> >
> >As long as I don't have to testify in open court!
> >
> >
>
> THWACK!



oOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! I have received my very first thwacking!!!!

Doubtless not my last either!

helen

"Nancy Young" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Helen Harrand" > wrote
>
> > Nononononono..........I'll leave it all for you. I don't think there
can
> > be
> > enough of the other ingredients to mask that horrible, icky taste. And
> > just
> > for those who say I should try it again, I have. Hub goes to NL every
> > year
> > at T'giving to see his mom and I bought one last year or the year before
> > just so I could try it again. Yeap, I still hate 'em!
> >
> > Bio weapon, I tell you!
>
> That's all it's good for, I agree. That or use in catapulting
> over enemy lines. Incoming rutabegas!
>
> nancy
>
>

See? Bio weapong or lobbed weapon! Both viable uses. Just NOT for human
consumption!

helen

> oOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! I have received my very first thwacking!!!!
>
> Doubtless not my last either!

Now say:
"Thank you Master ! May I please have more...?"

In article <oSAFg.433945$IK3.328604@pd7tw1no>,
"~-x-y-~" > wrote:

> > oOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! I have received my very first thwacking!!!!
> >
> > Doubtless not my last either!
>
> Now say:
> "Thank you Master ! May I please have more...?"

;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch"
-- Jack Nicholson

"~-x-y-~" > wrote in message
newsSAFg.433945$IK3.328604@pd7tw1no...
> > oOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! I have received my very first thwacking!!!!
> >
> > Doubtless not my last either!
>
> Now say:
> "Thank you Master ! May I please have more...?"
>
>

I think this is twice in three days I have repeated this phrase!

Thank you mistress, may I have another?

<kneeling>
helen

"Mrs. Dash must die" wrote:
>
> http://www.blackwidowbakery.com/demo/meatcake/

Have you seen that silly stop-action animation
of making pancakes on youtube.com? That might
have been even funnier if it was a meatcake
being made.

> <kneeling>

(eyes averted)

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 11:45:07 -0700, "Helen Harrand"
> wrote:

>"~-x-y-~" > wrote in message
>newsSAFg.433945$IK3.328604@pd7tw1no...
>> > oOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!! I have received my very first thwacking!!!!
>> >
>> > Doubtless not my last either!
>>
>> Now say:
>> "Thank you Master ! May I please have more...?"
>
>I think this is twice in three days I have repeated this phrase!
>
>Thank you mistress, may I have another?
>
><kneeling>

HA! You don't get thwacked for being polite. You have a lot to
learn, Grasshopper.

Carol

"~-x-y-~" > wrote in message
news:twLFg.424279$Mn5.395239@pd7tw3no...
> > <kneeling>
>
> (eyes averted)
>
>


Of course. I'm only asking for another, not a total beating.

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helen