Default User wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>
>>What's wrong with not opening their posts? Just letting them be?
>>
>>So let me guess; a killfile is a way, of your curiosity not getting the
>>best of you? I surely hope you don't peek at the trash every now and then...
>
>
>
> No, it's so you use the automatic message selection features, that is
> run down through all messages. Your way requires reading every message
> header and sender, then picking and choosing. Inefficient.
>
>
>
> Brian Rodenborn

It takes me less than one minute, to scroll through new messages on a
daily basis. If I see one of someone who I don't care to read about, I
keep on going. Also, you can arrange all the messages by topic, and see
what interests you or not.

I read some of Sheldon's posts, looking for things of interest. As soon
that I see he's in his immature mode, I just go to the next message. Why
let what could be good advice go to waste, because of his lame insults.

As for Pastorio, I just see him as someone who's had it with Sheldon. My
advice to him; it's not worth the aggravation, and he should point his
energy into more positive things.

I'm not the perfect one here, if you go back with google, you can see
the many times I've clashed with Sheldon, and others in other
newsgroups. But hey, I've learned my lesson.

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Richard Periut wrote:

> It takes me less than one minute, to scroll through new messages on a
> daily basis. If I see one of someone who I don't care to read about, I
> keep on going.

So? What works for you doesn't work for everyone. My system of reading
news suits me. I have no interest in reading anything certain people
have to say.

> Also, you can arrange all the messages by topic, and see
> what interests you or not.

Already are, with the "show only unread messages" option. That's why I
can whip through them quickly.

> I read some of Sheldon's posts, looking for things of interest.

That's your option. I don't care to do so.

> As for Pastorio, I just see him as someone who's had it with Sheldon. My
> advice to him; it's not worth the aggravation, and he should point his
> energy into more positive things.

Good advice. Bob isn't KFed yet, but he's heading that way. I don't want
to see Sheldon's spew either in original form or quoted by others.

> I'm not the perfect one here, if you go back with google, you can see
> the many times I've clashed with Sheldon, and others in other
> newsgroups. But hey, I've learned my lesson.

Some people aren't worth dealing with, period.



Brian Rodenborn

Default User wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>
>>It takes me less than one minute, to scroll through new messages on a
>>daily basis. If I see one of someone who I don't care to read about, I
>>keep on going.
>
>
> So? What works for you doesn't work for everyone. My system of reading
> news suits me. I have no interest in reading anything certain people
> have to say.
>
>
>>Also, you can arrange all the messages by topic, and see
>>what interests you or not.
>
>
> Already are, with the "show only unread messages" option. That's why I
> can whip through them quickly.
>
>
>>I read some of Sheldon's posts, looking for things of interest.
>
>
> That's your option. I don't care to do so.
>
>
>>As for Pastorio, I just see him as someone who's had it with Sheldon. My
>>advice to him; it's not worth the aggravation, and he should point his
>>energy into more positive things.
>
>
> Good advice. Bob isn't KFed yet, but he's heading that way. I don't want
> to see Sheldon's spew either in original form or quoted by others.
>

[SNIP]

C'mon, Sheldon is more of a bark than a bite. You have to feel
compassion for people like him; although I'm pretty sure he doesn't
comprehend that at all, and has no idea.

It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
something in my little pathetic life."

Richard


--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:40:01 GMT, Richard Periut
> shared the following:


>
>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>something in my little pathetic life."
>
>Richard

I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh
*gazes at HUGE tv in front of him, hold's gorgeous wife's hand in
beautiful house surrounded by four children, contemplates retirement
at age 40, sips delicious drink*
Yep. If only I hadn't gotten those tattoos. I think you've got it
wrong, dude. Nevery stereotype. It will wind up making you sound
silly. *grin*



--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!

Richard Periut wrote:

> It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
> look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
> something in my little pathetic life."


idiot...

~john!



--
What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look
away...

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:54:07 -0400, travis
> shared the following:

>On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:40:01 GMT, Richard Periut
> shared the following:
>
>
>>
>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>
>>Richard
>
>I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh
>*gazes at HUGE tv in front of him, hold's gorgeous wife's hand in
>beautiful house surrounded by four children, contemplates retirement
>at age 40, sips delicious drink*
>Yep. If only I hadn't gotten those tattoos. I think you've got it
>wrong, dude. Nevery stereotype. It will wind up making you sound
>silly. *grin*

And also "never" tell someone to "nevery" stereotype or it will make
you sound sillier than they do... HAHAHA! :-P
/going to bed early tonight ;-)



--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!

travis wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:40:01 GMT, Richard Periut
> > shared the following:
>
>
>
>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>
>>Richard
>
>
> I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh
> *gazes at HUGE tv in front of him, hold's gorgeous wife's hand in
> beautiful house surrounded by four children, contemplates retirement
> at age 40, sips delicious drink*
> Yep. If only I hadn't gotten those tattoos. I think you've got it
> wrong, dude. Nevery stereotype. It will wind up making you sound
> silly. *grin*
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> '63 VW Camo Baja...
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!

And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
them off for reasons known only to you.

Clearly, materialism is what's on your agenda. I don't consider the
glories of what you just mentioned, tantamount to success.

But hey, enjoy your tv, wife, and kids. The latter two are truly blessings.

Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going to die
with boots on because is passionate about his profession, and never
needed tattoos) ; )



--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

levelwave wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>> It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>> look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>> something in my little pathetic life."
>
>
>
> idiot...
>
> ~john!
>
>
>

I absolve you from your ignorance...

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

travisty writes:
>
> the crusty outside also sounds really yummy.

Figures a pansy assed wuss would prefer crusty.


---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

Phred > wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:21:33 -0400, Bob Pastorio >
>scribed:
>
>Pastorio!
>
>Where the hell is your restaurant? After hearing these descriptions I
>have got to try it! Good God, those dishes sound fantastic!

I would guess Aspen. I think he's told us before, and I
don't think it was Aspen, but that's what I'm guessing.
He probably tells it in the reply pending your question,
but I'm getting my wager in before reading it.

--Blair
"Note: sending yourself stuff by
registered mail doesn't make it legal."

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:36:59 GMT, Richard Periut
> shared the following:

>travis wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:40:01 GMT, Richard Periut
>> > shared the following:
>>
>>
>>
>>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>>
>>>Richard
>>
>>
>> I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh
>> *gazes at HUGE tv in front of him, hold's gorgeous wife's hand in
>> beautiful house surrounded by four children, contemplates retirement
>> at age 40, sips delicious drink*
>> Yep. If only I hadn't gotten those tattoos. I think you've got it
>> wrong, dude. Nevery stereotype. It will wind up making you sound
>> silly. *grin*
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> '63 VW Camo Baja...
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>>
>> :wq!
>
>And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
>them off for reasons known only to you.

I saw the work of some of the tattoo artists and was impressed. I
thought it would be neat to get some tattoos done on myself because I
admired the work. Kind of like some people buy other art forms. I
meet people every day and like to share the artwork I have on my body
with them. To me, that's neat. It doesn't make you better than me to
try to belittle that.

>
>Clearly, materialism is what's on your agenda. I don't consider the
>glories of what you just mentioned, tantamount to success.

Well, good for you. :-) That's cool that you can justify not having
nice things like I do. I consider my own happiness important and...
yes, some material things help enhance that happiness. I prefer to
live in a nice house and to be able to buy nice things for my family.
It's hard for me to understand people like you who don't seem to find
that sort of thing important or to try to make me sound like a bad
person for working hard to provide those things to my family. I'm
sure you are a better person than I am, though, and explain to your
kids why they don't have some of the things they want because you
aren't into the material kind of thing. That makes me happy for you.

>
>But hey, enjoy your tv, wife, and kids. The latter two are truly blessings.

I do, daily. Thank you.

>
>Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going to die
>with boots on because is passionate about his profession, and never
>needed tattoos) ; )

I never "needed" them either. I could just "afford" them because of a
lot of hard work on my part and decided to get them and your comments
don't change my mind. Maybe if you worked a little harder then you
and your own family could enjoy some of the finer things in life. Or,
maybe you're just too lazy and will now spout off some excuse for your
"situation." Sorry, but thanks for playing. :-)


--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!

Bob Pastorio > wrote:
>The one caution about them is the fat. If the steak is highly marbled
>and the center is cold, as it properly should be, the fat can have an
>unpleasant mouthfeel. Simple solution: don't eat the cold fat.

If the steak is properly marbled (i.e., fairly high) and
there's a thumb-sized spot of cool (rather than cold) meat
at the center, so you can still see the marbling there,
and it's good meat, then it's perfect.

Any texture problems are overwhelmed by the purity of
the flavor, and you can always slice it out and tuck it
under the warm part, then eat it in smaller pieces with
more-cooked bits.

--Blair
"Or, hey, why deprive your dog?"

travis > wrote:
>>In article >,
>>Bob Pastorio > wrote:
>>>There's a new approach gaining some ground. It's to cook steaks over
>>>very low temperatures and forego the crust.
>
>That seems to be the way mine was cooked. Everyone kept talking about
>forming a crust on the outside by using high heat for a short period
>of time, but looking at the steak I ate I'd guess they followed the
>"very low temperature" idea. I love the way it turned out, but the
>crusty outside also sounds really yummy.

Yeah. Bob's right. Steakhouses are starting too look
for that all-the-same-color look.

It's the antithesis of a good steak experience to me.

You might as well order a slice of shell roast.

Mr. Maillard wasn't screwing around when he pointed out that
the best part of the meat is the dark-brown bits.

--Blair
"Gradients rule!"

Richard Periut wrote:

> I absolve you from your ignorance...

and Richard Periut also wrote:

--"Richard (age 39, *doesn't never* want to retire, in fact, <snip>"--


idiot...

~john!


--
What was it like to see - the face of your own stability - suddenly look
away...

j*ni p. > wrote:
>I wound up killfiling Pastorio over this crap. I hated to

All these people killfiling Bob just prove that politics
isn't about making sense of right and wrong.

--Blair
"So I won't either."

A.T. Hagan > wrote:
>I can't stand Sheldon either, but I haven't kill filed him. Both post
>useful information. Bob quite often, Sheldon once in a while. The
>stuff I don't like just gets deleted.

Sheldon posts nothing useful. Except things that he's stolen
from other people.

>Complaining about Pastorio complaining about Sheldon is about as
>pointless as complaining about Sheldon.

And then we wonder why people spit on those returning from war.

>Sheldon, of course, is usually just pointless.

His point is to create an artificial ego for himself by
pretending to contribute.

--Blair
"If it wasn't so pathetic it'd be
pathetic."

zenit wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 08:16:19 -0400, Bob Pastorio >
> had to open a new box of zerones to say
>
>
>>Phred wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:21:33 -0400, Bob Pastorio >
>>>scribed:
>>>
>>>Pastorio!
>>>
>>>Where the hell is your restaurant? After hearing these descriptions I
>>>have got to try it! Good God, those dishes sound fantastic!
>>
>>Thanks, Phred. Nowadays, I only cook at home or for the very rare
>>catering or demonstration. Finally got out of the restaurant business.
>>Last couple gigs were to rescue country clubs that had gone astray.
>>Six or eight months and out.
>
> In your travels, did you by chance run into Jimmy Snead...? He had a
> place called Windows in a remote little town in Va. for awhile, and
> then he partnered with the late Jean-Louis Palladin to operate the
> Frog and the Redneck restaurant in Richmond...

Sure. Met him a few years back. His first operation was down by the
coast. The "F&R" restaurant name was considered cheekily scandalous
out here in the boonies. Sneed did some great stuff, essentially going
backward from trends, as I recall. He simplified his offerings to the
point that the essential flavors of the foods came through.

I'll see if any of my pro foodie folks have a line on him. When he
closed the place, he seems to have disappeared. Shame. He's unique.
Very smart guy with a clear sense of what he was doing.

Pastorio

travis wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:36:59 GMT, Richard Periut
> > shared the following:
>
>
>>travis wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:40:01 GMT, Richard Periut
> shared the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>
>>>
>>>I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh
>>>*gazes at HUGE tv in front of him, hold's gorgeous wife's hand in
>>>beautiful house surrounded by four children, contemplates retirement
>>>at age 40, sips delicious drink*
>>>Yep. If only I hadn't gotten those tattoos. I think you've got it
>>>wrong, dude. Nevery stereotype. It will wind up making you sound
>>>silly. *grin*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Travis
>>>'63 VW Camo Baja...
>>>http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>>>Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>>
>>>
>>> :wq!
>>
>>And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
>>them off for reasons known only to you.
>
>
> I saw the work of some of the tattoo artists and was impressed. I
> thought it would be neat to get some tattoos done on myself because I
> admired the work. Kind of like some people buy other art forms.

So why permanently disfigure your skin, with dyes that look ugly as you
age? Better carry little portraits of your favorite art, on prints, and
show them to people.
I
> meet people every day and like to share the artwork I have on my body
> with them. To me, that's neat. It doesn't make you better than me to
> try to belittle that.

I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture or
movement. A way of getting attention. You maybe one of those rare
specimens that just enjoys the art. Please don't get me wrong.

>
>
>>Clearly, materialism is what's on your agenda. I don't consider the
>>glories of what you just mentioned, tantamount to success.
>
>
> Well, good for you. :-) That's cool that you can justify not having
> nice things like I do.

Well, I happen to have lots of what you call "nice" things. My
profession allows that.
I consider my own happiness important and...
> yes, some material things help enhance that happiness. I prefer to
> live in a nice house and to be able to buy nice things for my family.
> It's hard for me to understand people like you who don't seem to find
> that sort of thing important or to try to make me sound like a bad
> person for working hard to provide those things to my family.


I'm not implying that you are a "bad" person, I just see things
differently based on life's experiences.

My friend, you want to boast about something, boast about the following:
health (you and your family,) you can have all the money and houses, et
cetera in the world, that if you have a chronically sick child that is
suffering, or you or your wife don't have health--all that is worthless.
Boast about being able to help the underdog and needy; there is a great
satisfaction with that.
I'm
> sure you are a better person than I am, though, and explain to your
> kids why they don't have some of the things they want because you
> aren't into the material kind of thing. That makes me happy for you.

I teach my kids that materialism is secondary to life's real joys. They
may not understand that now, but it's a seed of truth and morality that
they carry; and one day they may understand.

>
>
>>But hey, enjoy your tv, wife, and kids. The latter two are truly blessings.
>
>
> I do, daily. Thank you.
>
>
>>Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going to die
>>with boots on because is passionate about his profession, and never
>>needed tattoos) ; )
>
>
> I never "needed" them either. I could just "afford" them because of a
> lot of hard work on my part and decided to get them and your comments
> don't change my mind. Maybe if you worked a little harder then you
> and your own family could enjoy some of the finer things in life.

Well it's my blessing, because of my profession, that I don't have to
shovel shit, et cetera. Matter of fact, I show up to work dressed in a
simple shirt and tie, and make a bundle in a couple of hours. Yet I
don't go crazy in having this money and wanting to burn it. Fundamental
and simple things are first in my family's life.
Or,
> maybe you're just too lazy and will now spout off some excuse for your
> "situation." Sorry, but thanks for playing. :-)

Lazy? Your generalizations amuse me : ) You hardly know me.

>
>
> --
> Travis
> '63 VW Camo Baja...
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!



--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

j*ni p. wrote:
> Hark! I heard levelwave > say:
>
>>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I truly and actively dislike you, your methods, your malice, your
>>>efforts at inflicting pain and your unremitting insanity. I will help to
>>>keep your life meaningful with these appreciative posts. You demented
>>>ignoramus.
>
>
>>Oh God, here we go again...
>
>
> I wound up killfiling Pastorio over this crap. I hated to
> do it, because he posts some great stuff about food, but his
> obsession with Sheldon is beyond comprehension. Guess I'll
> have to start killfiling his threads too, starting with
> this one...
>

Pastorio has been around a long time. He's one of my favorite contributors
on another group. But he hasn't been around *here* very long. It takes
awhile when one first encounters a person with no redeeming values at all
(such as Sheldon) to realize that Sheldon is not even worth the time and
effort to acknowledge.

Give him a month. After that, if Pastorio is still ranting about Sheldon
(other than an occasional well-placed barb), killfile him.

Best regards,
Bob

levelwave wrote:
> Richard Periut wrote:
>
>> I absolve you from your ignorance...
>
>
> and Richard Periut also wrote:
>
> --"Richard (age 39, *doesn't never* want to retire, in fact, <snip>"--
>
>
> idiot...
>
> ~john!
>
>

You are *SO* friggin predictable. : )

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

levelwave > wrote in
:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
>> I truly and actively dislike you, your methods, your malice, your
>> efforts at inflicting pain and your unremitting insanity. I will help
>> to keep your life meaningful with these appreciative posts. You
>> demented ignoramus.
>>
>> Pastorio
>
> Oh God, here we go again...
>
> ~john!
>
>

It wouldn't be enough to just kill Sheldon's files...

Wayne

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

> Phred > wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:21:33 -0400, Bob Pastorio >
>>scribed:
>>
>>Pastorio!
>>
>>Where the hell is your restaurant? After hearing these descriptions I
>>have got to try it! Good God, those dishes sound fantastic!
>
> I would guess Aspen. I think he's told us before, and I
> don't think it was Aspen, but that's what I'm guessing.
> He probably tells it in the reply pending your question,
> but I'm getting my wager in before reading it.
>
> --Blair
> "Note: sending yourself stuff by
> registered mail doesn't make it legal."

Not Aspen. Actually in small towns in the Shenandoah Valley of
Virginia. Staunton and Harrisonburg area. Ran Massanutten Resort
foodservice operations for a while. I got out of restaurant operations
completely in 2001. Nowadays, I write, consult, do radio and TV, make
and sell my products locally.

My biggest cooking challenges these days are for Carla's sleepovers
when she has a dozen middle-school kids of extremely varying tastes
and receptivities crowded around the dining table. Watching them
attack cheese, beef, seafood and a couple dessert fondues was
terrific. Helping them make pizzas with all sorts of exotic (for them)
ingredients was a trip. Artichoke hearts, brussels sprouts, anchovies,
stinky cheeses, fish and other things that they wouldn't normally eat
at gunpoint. Round ones, square ones, triangular ones. One even made
with frozen French fries! gently smooshed together as a crust.

I do miss the dynamism of a busy restaurant now and again. I don't
miss the long days and physically-demanding life it is. My last
operation was open from 6 am to 2 am, 365. Four hours closed to clean
and restock and back at it. Bar, restaurant, banquet spaces and
off-premises catering. Staff of 70 at its height. A new soap opera
every day.

Aspen, you say. Hmmm...

Pastorio

j*ni p wrote:

> Hark! I heard levelwave > say:
> > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> >
> > > I truly and actively dislike you, your methods, your malice, your
> > > efforts at inflicting pain and your unremitting insanity. I will help
to
> > > keep your life meaningful with these appreciative posts. You demented
> > > ignoramus.
>
> > Oh God, here we go again...
>
> I wound up killfiling Pastorio over this crap. I hated to
> do it, because he posts some great stuff about food, but his
> obsession with Sheldon is beyond comprehension. Guess I'll
> have to start killfiling his threads too, starting with
> this one...


"Kids these days...."

Lol....

--
Best
Greg <8---0)

(since the losers hijacked the original thread)

(Mark Shaw) writes:

>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>ConnieG999 wrote:
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Since the others are being cutsey, black and blue/Pittsburgh mean
>>>>crispy/blackened on the outside, still moo-ing in the middle. It's a good
>>>>way
>>>>to test the authenticity of a steak house - if they don't understand
>either
>>>>term order something else or walk away.
>
>Hmm, when I was working a broiler I knew "black and blue" to
>mean "get it good and crispy on one side, but don't flip it" --
>so that the temperature would range from charred and well done
>on side A to very rare on side B. "Charred rare" meant to dip
>it in clarified butter and broil it quickly, so it'd char like
>crazy on all sides but remain very rare inside.
>
>I never worked in what I would call a quality steakhouse, though.

Well we were serious about the quality of our food but we weren't a steakhouse
either.

Now that you mention it I do recall one customer ordering his steak done the
way you recall.

Can we get a few more data points here? Has anyone else heard of the method
Mark Shaw mentioned and if so, by what name?

>>There's a new approach gaining some ground. It's to cook steaks over
>>very low temperatures and forego the crust.
>
>Sounds interesting -- I may try that next time, although I really
>do like a flash-grilled ribeye: cast iron pan preheated in a 500deg
>oven for 15 minutes, cook steak in pan over high heat 30sec/side,
>finish in oven 4 minutes (turning once), make a quick reduction
>sauce w/ butter and cognac.

I'll try the low'n'slow method myself but like you when I don't have time to
get the Weber (charcoal) set up I use your cast iron pan method too. I never
knew it had a name.

Best,

Marc
>--
>Mark Shaw contact info at homepage --> http://www.panix.com/~mshaw
>================================================= =======================
>"How can any culture that has more lawyers
>than butchers call itself a civilization?" - Alton Brown

In article >, zxcvbob
> wrote:
(snip)
> Pastorio has been around a long time. He's one of my favorite
> contributors on another group. But he hasn't been around *here* very
> long.

He posted here regularly at least 7 years ago and then didn't for a
while. He cracks me up and I wouldn't miss a post of his for anything.
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

In article >, Richard Periut
> wrote:
(snip)
> It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
> look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
> something in my little pathetic life."
>
> Richard

Exactly!! And I've got the peach tattoo and the raspberry tattoo to
prove it!! <vbseg> You can see them on my site:
<www.jamlady.eboard.com>, on the first page, note titled "Wanna see my
tats?" I Belong To Fruit!
-Barb Pathetique
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

Cute; at least they are not shouting out "look at me!" Unless you walk
around with your fingers in your mouth ; )

Richard

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> In article >, Richard Periut
> > wrote:
> (snip)
>
>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>
>>Richard
>
>
> Exactly!! And I've got the peach tattoo and the raspberry tattoo to
> prove it!! <vbseg> You can see them on my site:
> <www.jamlady.eboard.com>, on the first page, note titled "Wanna see my
> tats?" I Belong To Fruit!
> -Barb Pathetique

In article >, Richard Periut
> wrote:

Hey, I'm coming to this party!!
(snip)
> >>And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
> >>them off for reasons known only to you.

Marketing. "-)

> So why permanently disfigure your skin,

Skin? SKIN? I'm not talking about SKIN! Mine are wa-a-a-a-a-ay more
interesting than mere skin tats.

>with dyes that look ugly as you age?

He-e-e-ey, I represent that remark! I didn't get my first tat until I
was, what, 56?

> >I meet people every day and like to share the artwork I have on my
> > body with them.


Me, too. Every time I see someone with a bodacious tat, I show them
mine. I've **never** encountered anyone who'd seen one quite like
either of them. . .

> I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
> that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture or
> movement.

Ayup, that's it, all right. Lemme see---I got it! The Holy Order of
the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella -- you be talking with
Mother Superior, Kiddo.

>A way of getting attention.

And that is wrong because why? I could shoot someone and get a helluva
lot MORE attention.

>You maybe one of those rare specimens that just enjoys the art.

Nah, the art might be better (people keep mistaking the raspberry for a
ladybug or a pineapple), but mostly what I enjoy is the FUN I have
watching peopleseses reactions when I show them. MINE are not seen
unless and until *I* WANT you to see them.

>Please don't get me wrong.

Nah. Not a chance. "-)

(more snippage)

> >>Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going to die
> >>with boots on because is passionate about his profession, and never
> >>needed tattoos) ; )

Richard, what's your profession? Color me Curious.

> Well it's my blessing, because of my profession, that I don't have to
> shovel shit, et cetera. Matter of fact, I show up to work dressed in a
> simple shirt and tie, and make a bundle in a couple of hours.

Go, Richard!!

>Yet I don't go crazy in having this money and wanting to burn it.

I've never seen a hearse with a strongbox strapped to its roof.
Our plan is for our blood pressure and our bank balance to hit zero at
the same time. "-)
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, Richard Periut
> > wrote:
>
> Hey, I'm coming to this party!!
> (snip)
>
>>>>And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
>>>>them off for reasons known only to you.
>
>
> Marketing. "-)
>
>
>>So why permanently disfigure your skin,
>
>
> Skin? SKIN? I'm not talking about SKIN! Mine are wa-a-a-a-a-ay more
> interesting than mere skin tats.
>
>
>>with dyes that look ugly as you age?
>
>
> He-e-e-ey, I represent that remark! I didn't get my first tat until I
> was, what, 56?

So what happened in your life at that age, that made you so outspoken
and a rebel? Only curious...



>
>
>>>I meet people every day and like to share the artwork I have on my
>>>body with them.
>
>
>
> Me, too. Every time I see someone with a bodacious tat, I show them
> mine. I've **never** encountered anyone who'd seen one quite like
> either of them. . .
>
>
>>I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
>>that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture or
>>movement.
>
>
> Ayup, that's it, all right. Lemme see---I got it! The Holy Order of
> the Sacred Sisters of St. Pectina of Jella -- you be talking with
> Mother Superior, Kiddo.
>
>
>>A way of getting attention.
>
>
> And that is wrong because why? I could shoot someone and get a helluva
> lot MORE attention.
>
>
>>You maybe one of those rare specimens that just enjoys the art.
>
>
> Nah, the art might be better (people keep mistaking the raspberry for a
> ladybug or a pineapple), but mostly what I enjoy is the FUN I have
> watching peopleseses reactions when I show them. MINE are not seen
> unless and until *I* WANT you to see them.
>
>
>>Please don't get me wrong.
>
>
> Nah. Not a chance. "-)
>
> (more snippage)
>
>
>>>>Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going to die
>>>>with boots on because is passionate about his profession, and never
>>>>needed tattoos) ; )
>
>
> Richard, what's your profession? Color me Curious.
>
>
>>Well it's my blessing, because of my profession, that I don't have to
>>shovel shit, et cetera. Matter of fact, I show up to work dressed in a
>>simple shirt and tie, and make a bundle in a couple of hours.
>
>
> Go, Richard!!
>
>
>>Yet I don't go crazy in having this money and wanting to burn it.
>
>
> I've never seen a hearse with a strongbox strapped to its roof.
> Our plan is for our blood pressure and our bank balance to hit zero at
> the same time. "-)


Gee Barb, that'l a nice philosophy! I hope you didn't procreate.

Richard

In article >, Richard Periut
> wrote:

> travis wrote:


> > I have 5 tattoos. I guess I'm a real loser. heh heh


> And what was the purpose of getting those tattoos, other than to show
> them off for reasons known only to you.


The same reason that people wear jewelry and nice clothes. Do you have
the same disdain for those people? A lot of women actually have holes
made in their earlobes to hang earings from. That seems about the same
level of invasiveness as tattoos. A lot of people wear glasses. Although
they are not primarily decorative, most people choose their glasses based
on decorative reasons. We could all save a lot of money if glasses were
all identical, other than type and amount of correction. However, people
wouldn't put up with it, and the most efficient shape for glasses (a
circular lens) makes most people look bad.

Having said that, I really don't like seeing tattoos and piercings
(including earrings) on other people. However, I don't tell them that,
and I try not to judge people on what kind of decorations they wear.


I do choose to judge people who boast of having large tvs, though.


:-)

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS

In article >, Richard Periut
> wrote:

Unless you walk
> around with your fingers in your mouth ; )

You're not supposed to tell, Richard!! It spoils the surprise!! Jeez!!
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

In article >, Richard Periut
> wrote:

> Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> > He-e-e-ey, I represent that remark! I didn't get my first tat until I
> > was, what, 56?
>
> So what happened in your life at that age, that made you so outspoken
> and a rebel? Only curious...

Well, you tell me your profession (I asked first) and I'll answer your
curiosity question.

(snip)

> >>>>Richard (age 39, doesn't never want to retire, in fact, is going
> >>>>to die with boots on because is passionate about his profession,
> >>>>and never needed tattoos) ; )

> > Richard, what's your profession? Color me Curious.
> >
> >
> >>Well it's my blessing, because of my profession, that I don't have to
> >>shovel shit, et cetera. Matter of fact, I show up to work dressed in a
> >>simple shirt and tie, and make a bundle in a couple of hours.
> >
> >
> > Go, Richard!!
> >
> >
> >>Yet I don't go crazy in having this money and wanting to burn it.
> >
> >
> > I've never seen a hearse with a strongbox strapped to its roof.
> > Our plan is for our blood pressure and our bank balance to hit zero at
> > the same time. "-)
>
>
> Gee Barb, that'l a nice philosophy!

Good for laughs -- thanks.

I hope you didn't procreate.

Nah -- too kinky for me. I do have two children, though -- 34 and 31
years old. "-) I'm off to see my Girlchild within the hour! Woo-hoo!!

> Richard
--
-Barb, whose reply address is now munged due to Swen. You can figure it out.
Saw The Little Muffin recently. She didn't know I was coming to visit.
She saw my can of TaB on the counter before she saw me.
She looked at the can and said, "Baba?"

Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> In article >, Richard Periut
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>
>
>>>He-e-e-ey, I represent that remark! I didn't get my first tat until I
>>>was, what, 56?
>>
>>So what happened in your life at that age, that made you so outspoken
>>and a rebel? Only curious...
>
>
> Well, you tell me your profession (I asked first) and I'll answer your
> curiosity question.

Actually it's my hobby ; )

Richard

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 01:57:53 GMT, Richard Periut
> shared the following:

>I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
>that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture or
>movement. A way of getting attention. You maybe one of those rare
>specimens that just enjoys the art. Please don't get me wrong.
>
<snip>
>
>Lazy? Your generalizations amuse me : ) You hardly know me.
>

OK, your polite reply inclines me to be polite also. I'm sorry I
called you lazy and if I came off as being rude. It was your initial
comment that got me wound up:

>>>>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>>>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>>>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>>>>
>>>>>Richard

I admit that I kind of jumped at that and made too many assumptions
about you based on that statement. It didn't sound very nice to me.
And, for the record only one of my tattoos is visible when I'm
clothed, and it's a small one that doesn't stand out. I'm definitely
not shouting "look at me, etc" and I don't consider my life to be a
"little pathetic life." That's probably what I should have said to
begin with instead of ranting. I'm sorry.



--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 09:58:41 -0700, (Dan Abel)
shared the following:

<big snip>
>
>I do choose to judge people who boast of having large tvs, though.
>
>
>:-)

I'm sorry if my post came off that way. I was out of line and judged
the person I was responding to prematurely and ranted more than I
should have.



--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!

travis wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 01:57:53 GMT, Richard Periut
> > shared the following:
>
>
>>I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
>>that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture or
>>movement. A way of getting attention. You maybe one of those rare
>>specimens that just enjoys the art. Please don't get me wrong.
>>
>
> <snip>
>
>>Lazy? Your generalizations amuse me : ) You hardly know me.
>>
>
>
> OK, your polite reply inclines me to be polite also. I'm sorry I
> called you lazy and if I came off as being rude. It was your initial
> comment that got me wound up:
>
>
>>>>>>It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting, "hey,
>>>>>>look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can identify with
>>>>>>something in my little pathetic life."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Richard
>>>>>
>
> I admit that I kind of jumped at that and made too many assumptions
> about you based on that statement. It didn't sound very nice to me.
> And, for the record only one of my tattoos is visible when I'm
> clothed, and it's a small one that doesn't stand out. I'm definitely
> not shouting "look at me, etc" and I don't consider my life to be a
> "little pathetic life." That's probably what I should have said to
> begin with instead of ranting. I'm sorry.
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> '63 VW Camo Baja...
> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>
>
> :wq!

Travis,

I never wanted to offend you regarding the tattoo. I was using it to
describe Sheldon's immaturity. He has to insult people because he wants
attention, and it makes him feel good and secure.

Perhaps I should of said "why certain people wear tattoos." I'm not
generalizing. Heck, one of my teachers had his arms studded with tattoos
from WWII.

Anyway, lets get back to talking about cooking : )

Regards,

Richard

--
"..A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava
beans and a nice chianti..."

Hannibal "The Cannibal"

Silence Of The Lambs 1991

Richard Periut wrote:

> travis wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 01:57:53 GMT, Richard Periut
>> > shared the following:
>>
>>
>>> I'm not saying I'm better than you; I'm just saying that most people
>>> that have tattoos, are trying to identify with a particular culture
>>> or movement. A way of getting attention. You maybe one of those rare
>>> specimens that just enjoys the art. Please don't get me wrong.
>>>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Lazy? Your generalizations amuse me : ) You hardly know me.
>>>
>>
>>
>> OK, your polite reply inclines me to be polite also. I'm sorry I
>> called you lazy and if I came off as being rude. It was your initial
>> comment that got me wound up:
>>
>>
>>>>>>> It's like people who decide to wear tattoos; they are shouting,
>>>>>>> "hey, look at me, I'm important, I belong to something, I can
>>>>>>> identify with something in my little pathetic life."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>> I admit that I kind of jumped at that and made too many assumptions
>> about you based on that statement. It didn't sound very nice to me.
>> And, for the record only one of my tattoos is visible when I'm
>> clothed, and it's a small one that doesn't stand out. I'm definitely
>> not shouting "look at me, etc" and I don't consider my life to be a
>> "little pathetic life." That's probably what I should have said to
>> begin with instead of ranting. I'm sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Travis
>> '63 VW Camo Baja...
>> http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
>> Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.
>>
>>
>> :wq!
>
>
> Travis,
>
> I never wanted to offend you regarding the tattoo. I was using it to
> describe Sheldon's immaturity. He has to insult people because he wants
> attention, and it makes him feel good and secure.
>
> Perhaps I should of said "why certain people wear tattoos." I'm not
> generalizing. Heck, one of my teachers had his arms studded with tattoos
> from WWII.
>
> Anyway, lets get back to talking about cooking : )
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>


Y'all are apologizing too much. Stop it! This is usenet! A simple
"Oops. Sorry about that, Chief" is more than adequate when one has
inadvertently made an ass of oneself.

Best regards, ;-)
Bob

Melba's Jammin' wrote:

> He posted here regularly at least 7 years ago and then didn't for a
> while. He cracks me up and I wouldn't miss a post of his for anything.

How funny that we can see things so differently! I have yet to read
anything witty or amusing or even that helpful from him... yet Sheldon's
often dry, biting humor can crack me up at times. And yeah. there are
times it goes too far, but.... <shrug>. I don't find his rants about
Sheldon any better than what he's complaining about Sheldon doing.
Goomba

travis wrote:

> I put Sheldon in my killfile about 2 days after starting to monitor
> this newsgroup. I normally check the "30 day long" box, where the
> killfile filter drops after 30 days. I didn't even bother to check
> that box for him. He's useless.

well so far, from what I've seen from you.. so are you.

On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 14:57:08 -0400, Goomba
> shared the following:

>travis wrote:
>
>> I put Sheldon in my killfile about 2 days after starting to monitor
>> this newsgroup. I normally check the "30 day long" box, where the
>> killfile filter drops after 30 days. I didn't even bother to check
>> that box for him. He's useless.
>
>well so far, from what I've seen from you.. so are you.

Sorry you feel that way. Killfiling me is probably your best option,
then.


--
Travis
'63 VW Camo Baja...
http://bugadventures.dyndns.org
Words that soak into your ears are whispered, not yelled.


:wq!